>> okay. it's not what i learned, but what i didn't learn. if a buy a car and have no sales tax under herman cain's plan, do i pay a sales tax on the new car? yes, you do. >> what have you learned? >> there is an explanation for the sweater. a birthday sweater. michael steele's birthday. >> thank you. we feel bad about making that. >> passive aggressive. >> i learned that he is representing the aztecs of america. >> excellent. >> a lot and only one has demonstrated the height. >> with height. very good. we apologize to chuck todd. we owe you about 45 seconds. >> see you tomorrow. take it,a wachlt

. >> that are escalated quickly. rick perry comes out swinging and the tone gets nasty at the republican debate. mitt romney fends off a surprise attack on illegal immigration. it got personal and even physical. all the important highlights and analysis ahead. herman cain's 9-9-9 plan took a beating and it's done well so far. a result of our poll out this morning, is kacain still the fo conservatives. president obama's bus arrives in virginia. he is pushing the jobs plan and defending charges that this is nothing but a campaign swing. today the first lady joins him on the road. wednesday, october 19th, 2011. let's get to the first read at the debate highlights. it was and my apology for the chi shay a i fight night in las vegas. seven republican candidates met

in the debate and will be the where rick perry started launching grenades and struggling to get back in the race, rick perry with a personal attack on mitt romney that caught everyone off guard. >> you hired illegals in your home and you knew about it for a year and the idea that you stand here before us and talk about that you are strong on immigration is on its face the height of hypocrisy. >> rick, i don't think i have ever hired an illegal in my life. i am looking forward to finding your facts on that. >> i will show you what the facts are. >> rick, i'm speaking. i'm speaking. you get 30 seconds and this is the way the rules work. i get 60 seconds and then you get 30 seconds to respond. anderson? will you please wait?

are you going keep talking? >> here's what perry is referring to. a 2007 boston globe report that romney for a full year knowingly used a lawn service that employed undocumented immigrants. the exchange was more raw and more personal as it went on. here's the rest of it. >> a tough couple of debates for rick. i understand that and you are going to get testy. >> we hired a lawn company to mow our lawn and they had illegal immigrants working there. when that was pointed out to us, we let them go. you have a problem with allowing someone to speak. i suggest if you want to be president of the united states, you have to let both people speak. let me speak. >> at what point romney touched an opponent and perry shot him an angry glare. when health care came up, everyone on stage piled on

romney. even newt gingrich who was trying to make avoiding attacks a virtue. he got into it with romney. >> your plan is one more big government bureaucratic and candidly could not have been done by any other state. >> we're got the idea of an individual mandate from you. >> that's not true. >> we got it from you and you got it from the heritage foundation. >> you said it's not true. >> you have supported in the past a mandate? >> i did. against hillary care. >> you don't have credibility, mitt when it comes to repealing obama care. >> for would be wrong to adopt this as a nation. it was adopted for massachusetts. you are shaking your head. >> it was in your book. >> take it out of your book. >> governor, you are allowed to change -- >> huh your chance, let me

speak. rick, huh your chance, let me speak. >> you expanded the insurance without controlling the cost and you authored in obama care that blows a hole in the country. >> there is a lot that news to be done and i didn't get the cost down. that's something we have to do at the national level. >> that last line when he talked about not getting health care costs, that's a line we will see again. the other target was herman cain. the first 20 minutes was a relentless pile on him with everyone taking shots at cain and his signature 9-9-9 tax plan. here's that part. >> i love you, brother. but you don't have to have a big analysis to figure it out. go to new hampshire where they don't have a sales tax and you are fixing to give them one. >> this is mixing apples and oranges. >> the state sales tax will go

away? >> that's an apple. we are replacing a bunch of oranges. >> then governor perry was right. >> no, he wasn't. he is mixing apples and oranges. >> i will have a basket with apples and oranges because i have to pay both taxes. >> cain faded into the background. he is a super pack called americans for herman cain that au launched the debate last night. even the moderator got caught up in it. >> a child of illegal immigrants who is born here is an american citizen. should that change? >> let me address herman's issue. >> i would rather you answer that question. >> i understand that. you get to ask the questions and i get to answer like i want to. >> president obama while he took a share of hits was not the focus of this debate. his relatives did come under attack from michele bachmann. >> i think the person who has a

problem with illegal immigration is president obama. his uncle and aunt who are illegal alien who is have been allowed to stay in this country. >> then newt gingrich with the reading of the 11th commandment. thou shalt not speak ill of other republican. he was railed against a broken washington and former colleagues in congress. >> look at this model of a super committee that has a magic number to achieve and if it doesn't, we will all have to shoot ourselves in the head so when they come back with a dumb idea to merely cutoff our right leg, we will be grateful that they are only semi stupid instead of being totally stupid. you have historically illiterate politicians trying to make a numerical decision about the size of the fence tells you everything you need to know

about it is bankruptcy in both parties. >> there it was. while the rest of the field battled it out, there was a missing cast member on stage. john huntsman was 2600 miles away and holding a town hall in new hampshire. she hasn't officially endorsed, she is a huntsman fan. did he make the right call by not going? >> by looking at the debate he absolutely did. the evaporates can vote in the primary and his appeal is to those independents and not the hard line base of the republican party. if he comes out well in new hampshire, he is a credible candidate. right now people are writing him off. >> here's what he said and we have a quip about it we should play. >> what happens in las vegas stays in las vegas.

may i say what happens in new hampshire impacts the world. >> as much as he may hope, it's going to have an impact and in many ways the race became whatever they thought it was going to be. romney versus perry. sit back. you were a candidate and how do you think they wake up while they are watching us play the highlights? how are they feeling? >> the biggest winner out of last night was barack obama. they started to tear each other apart and i don't think anybody necessarily won last night. there were no clear winners. there were good moments and bad moments for every one of the candidates and for the american public trying to decide who they want to see in the white house, it didn't give them a clear picture. if i were one of the candidates from last night, i would be very unhappy with the moderation of that debate. he let it get out of hand.

it was even rude to him not answering questions. if you have a debate with an exchange of ideas, the shouting over one another, you can't hear and you don't understand what people are trying to say and that turns the public off. i would be frustrated by the debate. >> we will talk more about the polls, but you see the polls and the splits in the republican electorate. you feel as if you watch last night's debate, the most important part is what they believe. >> they believe with the system as it exists right now for the republican side. it has become first of all as you know, the average voter turn out in the primary until the last election was 10%. you have a very small part of the electorate determining your primary and that's the key vote. that primary vote. they tend to be those who have a single issue or are passionate

about the social issues for the republican side and the democrats are going further to the left. a process that leaves you at the end of the day for which to choose. we discussed earlier and i am interested in what's happening with the american process. >> how do you feel mitt romney is trying to -- he is trying to keep one foot in the general election camp and trying to look to the general election and look to november and talk to swing voters. he got pulled away from that a little bit and i was taken back by his comments about foreign aid. let china aid the world. i thought wait a minute, that's where a lot of people are nervous. >> exactly. they are saying things that i don't think they are going to use as their basis for governing. they are either lying to the people whose plenls they are signing or they are going back the minute they get into office. that's not the way the process

should work. that's not what we should be hearing. i am distressed by the pledges that everybody is signing. when you had the debate where they asked him if they would take it 10-1 on revenue cuts and they said they wouldn't take it. to me it is mindless to give away a power you may have to use not knowing what circumstances you are going to face. when you sign one of the pledges, you are tying your hands and saying no matter what the circumstances are, i will never do anything that impacts revenue enhancement. you shouldn't do that as a responsible elected official. the question i'm waiting for someone to ask is are you planning to govern along the lines of all the pledges you signed or not? >> let me ask you, when you see the rise of herman cain, you have been speaking about the independent end of the year on a third party and an idea of

trying to go around the process. do you look at the popularity of herman kaip and the idea of herman and not the person, but the business man who has no washington experience and why he is skyrocketed and see how that transplants into americans elected. that's what the country is hungry for. a non-washington person who has not been part of the mess who has run a business. >> that's why you see the polls go up and down and you get a flavor of the month. somebody is hot for a short period of time and you find a flaw. nobody found the candidate they want. the appeal for herman cain is he is out of washington. look at the popularity of congress. it's worst than the president. the american people are seeing that we have a congress now where every issue is analyzed through the partisan political primp and not the policy prism. what will get me another vote and a leg up in the next election cycle and not how we

solve the problem. we have very serious problems here. we need you to start solving them. that means minding the points of consensus. it doesn't mean compromise. it means fining consensus to move issues forward. >> could you support mitt romney if he ends up the nominee or has he moved too far to the right? >> i would have to see if he would really govern the country on the basis of the taxpayers's pledge he signed? he would never ever raise taxes and do revenue enhancement even if it meant making the system more equitable. you would have to know that. i wasn't happen with him signing the pledges to ban gay marriage. -it is a big issue, but that's not how you use the constitution and there more important things for the president to be focused on. that's why i'm not as comfortable with him as i would

like to be. he's competent and capable and has the government experience, but who is the real mitt romney. >> that's the question that a lot of republican voters are going to have posed to them. thanks for coming on. up next, we are debuting the new poll numbers from two pivotal primary states. florida and south carolina. a road to the republican nomination runs through those two states. what our numbers say about herman cain's front-runner status. romney's religion and the very sharply divided electorate. plus, how does president obama stack up in one of the five most crucial swing states in 2012? florida of course. a look at the president's schedule. the bus tour ends in richmond today and he flies home from there. you are watching "the daily rundown" on msnbc. my doctor told me calcium

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in the race for president we have a look at the lay of the land in two key battle ground primary states. herman cain leading the pack in south carolina. up points on mitt romney and triples rick perry's number there. similar story in florida where cain and romney are running neck and neck. no other contender cracks double-digits. rick perry had to somehow crack open this race a little bit. let's bring in the man behind

the numbers. the director of the institute on public opinion. lee, we have to go inside the numbers and in many ways we see this cain and romney. this is romney versus the conservative wing of the party. >> absolutely. >> let me go to south carolina where cain overperforms in south carolina among republicans against romney with tea party supporters, conservatives and independents and college educated and debate viewers. people paying the most attention. >> that's exactly the danger for mitt romney. this is where the energy is within the republican party and the republican primary. when he gets done with iowa and new hampshire, it heads to florida and you can't get to the nomination without the southern states. there is a danger for the romney camp and in terms of the energy, this is about not only the future of the republican party

as we saw last night, it's about the future of the candidacy. all the bickering going on and perry trying to get off the campus and the romney being the target and cain being the target. you don't need the polls to figure out the strategies. >> exactly. with perry, he got the memo. it's 76 days to iowa and he has to do something if he is in single digits. >> there is a difference between throwing punches and landing punches. the bickering is a story within itself and is on the sidelines of the 9-9-9 debate and he comes over as being authentic and he has the tea party support. if you are strongly supportive and conservative and evangelical christian, you necessary cain's corner, not romney's. that is a danger sign.

>> when a attacks b and b attacks a, the c benefits. that is herman cain. >> the debays matter. we have seen the rise and fall from pawlenty way back when to perry and bachman and now cain. >> south carolina has a big christian population. we asked the mormon question. are mormons christian. 53% of voters told us no. among those who said mormons are not christian, cain led 33-19. it's some evidence that romney's religion does matter to some voters. >> that was being handled carefully. we talked about it with mitt romney. he is thinking about the nomination and the general election. in some ways that guides how he handles the questions. he does well with people who

think that being a mormon is being a christian. he does well with them and that's not a majority. he does well with people who are not strongly committed to the tea party. there is a lot of concern and the discussion of his inevitability. that went way ahead of the numbers. >> let's talk about president obama. we did florida and an overall check on the numbers as well. the job rating, a little bit under where he is nationally. 41% approve and 49% disapprove. the closest matchup though with a republican was the president versus mitt romney. the president leading 45-43 given the numbers. it proves that florida is going to be as crucial as ever. >> it was a three-point spread four years ago. we are talking similar numbers. it's all about the independents. romney does better because with perry and cain against obama,

the independents are more in his camp than they are in perry and cain and matched up against obama. one of the stories of the debates, they are starting to creep up a little bit. the "wall street journal" poll and watching the debates and the bickering, they have to be careful to move to the right. they have to worry about the middle and whether to leave it behind. >> one thing that was striking is the fact that the republican electorates in florida are somewhat similar. >> they are. they are conservative places. there is a huge tea party. the likely voters in both of the states identify with the tea party. that's a big deal. a lot of them are people that participated in the past and it's like a renaming of the

traditional republican party vote. that's something to be watch and they have the energy and the low turn out often times. the energy is what drives the story and narratives. that's all in cain's favor. >> wouldn't be governor of florida without the tea party. the director of the poll. thanks for coming on. we will see you in a couple more weeks. earnings season takes a bite out of apple. what does it mean for wall street. on the road again, day three of president obama's don't call it a campaign bus tour. today's stop? virginia. we will talk to the state's former governor about what president obama needs to do to win that swing state in 2012. today's trivia question, which current member of the house once went by the stage name jugger naught? the first correct answer will

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they haven't picked up trash in days. not a great situation with 100,000 people protesting. we are looking at a slightly lower open. >> "the daily rundown" is back in 30 seconds. >> bottom of the hour and here's stories making headlines. americans on social security are set to receive a 3.6% jump in benefits. they will get $39 per month additional. the cost of living adjustments

were put off in 2010 and 2011 because inflation was too low at the time. hillary clinton said hillary clinton a thanked the government for assisting in the release of the hikers in iran. several schools in eastern ohio are closed for an unbelievable reason. dozens of wild and aggressive animals including grizzly bears, lions, tigers, wolves escapeed from a wild preserve. the man who owned the animals was found dead on the farm and police are not saying how he died. officials killed around 30 of the animals and there no reports of injuries so far. not all of the animals have been captured. the president wraps up his swing through north carolina and virginia today and bringing out a bigger gun than before.

the first lady. it's a tough talk with some in the republican senate leadership. >> what are i decided was let's give congress another chance. we are going to give them another chance to listen to you and step up to the plate and do the right thing. >> complaints about congress fall on deaf ears. he own the congress for the first two years and you can see how much it's done for the economy. 1.5 million jobs lost since the first stimulus. >> kristen welker has been traveling with the president. why no town hall? >> that's an interesting question, chuck. president obama has really been sort of making a number of stops along the way on this bus tour, stopping at eateries and shaking hands at local restaurants that. is more of their reach out to the public, holding big events

like this one. i will talk a little louder. this is just getting started. today is significant because the first lady will be joining him on the road while the president is talking about his american jobs act. she is going to announce a new initiative to hire 25,000 veterans or their spouses by 2013. the first lady made helping veterans and their families a main priority. there about 1,000 people here right now. there 8500 personnel at the base and this will also allow the president to reach out to the 700,000 in the military community here in virginia who should be hitting reelection. chuck? >> military veterans are much more of a swing vote than many realize. we will keep following it and welcome you back home tomorrow. with the president in

virginia we are joined by the former mayor of richmond, governor wilder. what have you seen of the president's tour here that says okay, he seems to be getting in on what he's got to do skand wh part are you thinking why did he do that and why didn't he do that? >> the president recognizes that and i said it to him twice. last summer in the viniards as to when he was there and i said it at the university of richmond and think he agrees. you ask a good question in terms of why no town halls? that give-and-take and exchange of ideas can take place. that's something that would serve this administration well. this jobs bill jaunt around the state, the question is let's

assume that it doesn't pass. none of it. let's assume and there is a possibility that no aspect of it would pass. then what do you tell those excited people the reasons to continue to vote? what do you tell them the reasons to stand in line and right now, there is some disappointment in areas. virginia has lenient and more independent. the independent voters are going to be the swing voters. when you talk about that, how do they get a message that the president really connects with them and really understands them. i don't want to use bill clinton, but how you feel their pain. how you identify with what they are going through. how you know what joblessness means and how you know that you have got to stay with me because i am with you. that message hasn't come over to the extent that it needs to in my judgment.

if you don't in virginia, you will be in trouble. >> there is a fine line here. barack obama is not bill clinton in the -- he's not the classical southern paw. that's what served him so well four years ago. how do you do what you are saying with the personality of the president? >> that was then, this is now. this election is not going to be run with the same ingredients of chemistry. that was excitement. this was new. it was unshot. people wanted to see if america was ready. you can cut it and can you do it? we crossed that. now the question is, forget whether you will be like someone else and not how do you relate and how do you show that you are listening and how do you show that you are not going to do the

same things. you are asking for more money. 400 plus billion dollars. some would say you had 800 some billion dollars. was that spent for me? could i identify with it? you got health care. let's assume it vanishes as it might by the time you are running next year at the court. the question then becomes, what is there to give us their hope that yes, we can can be made. that's not my job. that's the president's job and i have been critical of the advisers. sometimes it gets to the point where it's not the matter of the advisers, but the individuals. that person has got to take the bull by the horns and look the american people in the eye and say this is me. this is what i stand for. that's why i think your question relative to town halls was so good and well-placed. >> let me ask you a political

question. can tim cain or george allen win if their presidential candidate does not carry virginia? >> the answer to that is they can, but if you notice the absence of many democrats with the president as he swings through the state, it's the democratic leader of the house has taken out an ad saying i am not obama. being friends as they are, i'm sure they discussed it. we have talked about the problems and they need each other's votes. tim is smart enough to know that independents play a great role in the state and to the extent that he is in the beginning with obama, it could. he needs the base vote of the party and obama needs the vote of independents who look like they are supporting him.

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billion. october 19, 1987. wall street, black monday. >> believe it or not, the economy felt worse than today. this day in 1987 the dow dropped 22.6%, the largest one-day percentage drop ever in the history of wall street. was mitt romney or rick perry more damaged in the debate? we will find out in the next couple of days. attacks like this begin to sink in. >> you stood here in front of the american people and did not tell the truth that you had illegals working on your property. i have a strong policy. i have always been against amnesty. you on the other hand are for amnesty. >> governor perry, you say you have the experience, but it's a bit like saying it's the college coach who lost 40 games in a row has the experience to go to the

nfl. >> our national political reporters. wow, i want to play debate. >> you and president obama. >> you say that. robert, did anybody have a good night? >> i think the first take away is perry got under romney's skin, but romney had a good night. he showed a flash of anger. he has been coasting for so long, they took the fight and i think that was effective. michele bachmann doesn't have a keach program, but at the end of the day she is cob servative and she may rise a bit. >> you went with the democratic talking point. no one is happier than team obama. the primary debate broke out. >> it wasn't about him and they

will make him unelectable in a general election. they fought each other that turned back to everyone who launched the debate. >> there was nothing on stage and you said to yourself, obama better worry about mitt romney. >> there were things that could have been on stage and two governors that created jobs and it didn't come through. no one talked about the job plan. that didn't worry me at all. they must have written off on that because they took positions on immigration and housing on nuclear waste that makes him unelectable. >> that are pandered well or at least small. >> no one wanted the courage there. >> that's a good idea. >> what about texas? >> based it on nuclear waste. what was interesting is romney and perry treated it the way conventional wisdom is treated. they must be the front-runners,

but herman cain is leading in the polls. >> herman cain was attacked in alled ises in the first 10 or 15 minutes. he muddied up the 9-9-9 with the apples and oranges. bite end, they felt like they got their good lucks in and they turned it on each other. romney slightly hurt himself. he did look aggressive, but he looked a little hauty and i went to harvard and you didn't. over hiring illegal immigrants he has a weird stage laugh. that was an odd reaction to someone attacking you. >> here punched down though. it's one thing to be aggressive with rick perry who was clearly the shot came out of left field. when he launched it, to nit pick with newt who was nothing but a

defender, did he get to the point where you walk the line of being tough and aggressive or a little too much? >> there was a sense that he was nit picking hall monitor and talking about the rules. the shot about the mandate, it was going down and so many debates coasting above the fray and take out newt gingrich is not doing too well in the polls. i don't understand why romney did it. perry even though i don't think it was an effective thing after this issue that was combed over over romney hiring illegal immigrants, romney was rattled by it all and was not in command every part of the debate. from being bossy about the rules to pointing his finger about something in the 90s, it shows the mitt romney that said that wasn't the romney we like. >> you have been in the room for

the debate and the post debate. the candidates wake up and they see the highlights that we ever looking for. >> they are desperately trying to somidilidify political votes. >> he is resonating for a reason. it's not a ridiculous reason. >> but they think he is ridiculous and the real losers were the american people. they looked at that debate and say when is it about us? we are here. >> there were questions about it and they didn't really answer it. >> it's more like rick santelli. >> the odds are there. stick around. when we come back, we have to digest this even more. which current member of the

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let's bring back our panel. i want to ask all of you. you heard the doug wilder interview. and one thing about doug wilder. he speaks his mind. he's never "on message." let me go to you, as a democratic strategist, are you as concerned as doug wilder is about the president's -- what he said was an inability -- he's not really connecting yet with folks? >> i'm not concerned about that. but i am concerned a lot about the enthusiasm in the base. and i think governor wilder was right. and i think we're not going to

be able to do this with rallies on october 28th. we have to start now. and i think that getting the president out more with the base as well as swing voters in more spontaneous settings, which he's excellent at. so i think the governor made a very, very good point. >> there's been no spontaneous settin settings. >> no, there hasn't. >> i assumed it was going to be like the iowa swing in august. wait, where's the town hall part of that? >> there's obviously a level of unpredictability there. you don't know what the questions are going to be. and that town hall i believe was last fall when that woman got up and said, hey, i supported you, but now i'm exhausted fighting for you and talking about your message. there's that level of unpredictability. the president seems he's slowly ramping up to being in campaign mode and campaign shape. he's out there, in front of these crowds. that certainly energizes him. but i think this town hall setting would give him contact

with voters and that's something we have -- >> you're nodding your head. you think he made a mistake. >> i think he made a big mistake. and i think that all of the questions would be on jobs. they would be on message. and he would be shown -- >> that's all anybody wants to talk about is the economy. >> right. and it would show him relating to people. >> when you were covering the presidential race. little concern that last night there wasn't enough questions about the economy if you were a republican candidate. >> housing questions they totally avoided it. romney believes in growth. bauchman tried to empathize with people. but at the same time, rick perry who supposedly has this great jobs record didn't talk a lot about jobs. romney touched on it. but it was more of a debate about taxes, not jobs. republicans need to recenter and focus on that. >> i feel like democrats are having a debate about spending, republicans are having a debate about taxes and celinda, nobody's having a debate about jobs. >> that's exactly right. >> they all think they're talking about job creation.

>> that's exactly right. and if you look at any of the data by two to one, people want jobs over deficit, people want jobs over taxes. we need to be relentless on jobs and i think the jobs bill needs to be broken down into ten parts. >> yeah. and i think perry, you know, came in and that was supposed to be his message. he was supposed to drill down on that consistently and he clearly has gotten off course. he's trying to bring that back. but also, i think he's trying to almost impose texas on america. you know, with all this oil drilling and things like that. >> interesting. shameless plug time, robert? >> the november elections in ohio, i wrote about it for naturalreview.com today, check it out. >> moderating a debate next week between the two sides. look forward to it. >> my shameless plug is great new book to buy by christine yonki "the well spoken woman"

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good morning. i'm chris jansing. and we're waiting for a police briefing on one of the most bizarre and frightening stories we've seen in a long time. lions, tigers, wolves, cheetahs, grizzly bears like these now on the loose after their owner was found dead and the cages at his animal preserve were open. schools in four districts are now closed. and residents are being closed to stay inside as authorities hunt for those wild animals that the sheriff calls very large and aggressive. he is getting help from workers at the columbus zoo.