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nobody's ever seen, but then america has never seen a candidate like herman cain. >> strange, bizarre, weird. those are some of the adjectives being used to describe herman cain's new political ad as he launches a campaign blitz in all 50 states. and high school musical with a twist. it's a school play designed to teach ktolerance but one says te scene is intolerable. what does this say about the culture war? it's good to have you today. i'm thomas roberts. a very busy morning ahead. rick perry in need of a campaign jolt, and he's hoping that a new tax plan can be his ticket back to the top of the polls. any minute from now perry will take the stage in south carolina. he's going to unveil his flat tax plan and stress its simplicity, a message we all remember rewarded herman cain because of the simplicity of the 9-9-9 plan. perry's plan proposes a new 20% flat tax which americans can
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choose instead of their current tax rate. corporations would see their taxes fall from 35% to 20% and taxes would be eliminated on long-term capital gains as well as on social security benefits. in an interview with cnbc's john harwood, he drew sharp distinction from mitt romney's plan. take a listen. >> i consider what mitt is doing nibbling around the edges. i consider what we're doing bold f. you're looking for somebody that's going to nibble around the edges, if you're looking for somebody who will say, hey, listen, we're not going to make it hard on you. it's all going to work out, i'm not your guy. >> joining me now is john harwood, cnbc chief washington correspondent and political writer for "the new york times." with me is "time" magazine writer at-large and a political analyst. john, i want to start with you because coming off the heels of this interview, go through the plan, what it means for americans. first off with everyone having the choice to opt out if they like their current taxes. >> reporter: well, and for that
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reason it's not quite as simple as herman kahcain's plan. if a taxpayer thought that advantaged them, the new one if they thought that would give them a better deal, and for most people it would. he's talking about a couple of things. 20% flat rate. you can keep your valuable deductions for mortgage interest, for charity, for state and local taxes. those don't go away if you make under $500,000 a year. you also have a generous personal exemption, $12,500 per person so a family of four wouldn't pay taxes on the first $50,000 of income. bottom line is in the immediate sense this would be a huge hit to federal ref gnaw. perry says two things will happen. one, the economy will grow and second he will go hard after spending. >> mark, let's talk more about what john is talking, the spes inspecti inspection. we made a graphic so everyone can see what we're talking about when it comes to middle americans, families who may get the best out of this, those
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looking to preserve their mortgage and exemptions and also that big bump increasing the standard deduction to $12,500. is this something that middle america will resonate towards? >> we don't know. there's two big questions with any large tax overhaul. one is, is it revenue neutral? go of perry says maybe it won't be but it will produce economic gret over the long term. the second question is, what does it do to the distribution of the tax burden? most flat tax plans have a flaw in them in the sense they shift the burden to the lower income people from upper income. by preserving the exemptions for so many millions of americans, homeowner and state and local taxes as well as the charitable deduction, that's preserved only for people who make less than $500,000 a year. we need to know more about the details of that. will people who are middle class and people in lower end of the spectrum, will their tax burden go up or not? in most flat tax plans it will. we just don't know enough to know whether it will in this case. >> the obama campaign to be
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released a statement on perry's plan says governor rick perry will unveil his economic plan featuring a flat tax plan that restructures the tax system and shifts a greater tax burden onto the middle class. the majority of americans believe it's okay to raise taxes on wealthy americans so, john, explain to us, can perry really get a surge in support for this? >> i don't know. it depends on how much fire he comes under specifically over this issue of the deficit. i have to say on the distributional issue mark talked about, perry was very direct in saying i don't care about that issue. i don't care if i give millions of dollars to people at the top because they're going to invest and create jobs so he's taking that on. he says, in fact, he doesn't believe in the progressive tax system for this country. that's a strong statement but he's trying to make a strong statement to economic conservatives. >> this is what rick perry had to say about the tax break, his plan to take into account wealthy americans. take a listen. >> those that want to get into
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the class warfare and talk about, oh, my goodness, there are going to be some folks here who make more money out of this or have access to more money, i'll let them do that. and it also is a tax cut across the board. it doesn't make any difference what you're in. the it gives a tax cut across the board. >> if the rich are going to be paying less, where does perry make up the difference? >> he says through economic growth. this is an orthodox view going back several generations that says if you cut taxes, eventually it will grow. ats john said, the most interesting may be the most significant, rick perry saying a progressive tax system is not a goal. that is different than what mitt romney thinks. it's different than what president obama thinks and many americans think. he's taking some conservative orthodox positions that will leave him open to political attack although it will appeal to a lot of conservative activists as well. he's getting good feedback on
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the conservative people who care a lot about taxes. >> and more than just talk about his economic plan was of interest that came out of this interview. it was a very telling interview where he breathed life back into the obama birther controversy. i want to show everybody what he had to say in your interview. >> i said it's a good issue to keep alive. donald is going to have some fun. i get it. i'm really not worried about the president's birth certificate. it's fun to poke at him a little bit and say, hey, how about -- let's see your grades and your birth certificate. >> so, john, does anybody really believe he's just poking fun at the president or really trying to invigorate a part of this country, the birther movement, to get behind him? >> it felt to me he was trying to do a little bit of both. i gave him repeated opportunities to put the issue to rest, which conventionally in political terms he should have done because today he's talking about his tax plan and he's getting a lot of attention to
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these birther comments but i think he's trying to signal to people on the right, i get your shares. consolidate the concerns of people who believe in the issue, but by doing it in a little bit of a light-hearted way, trying to signal to other vote, maybe i'm not that serious about it. that's the line he was trying to straddle and clearly wanted to because he didn't take any of several opportunities to put it to rest. >> again, we are waiting for rick perry to show up in south carolina. we see the shot behind you. we will continue to wait for that. john, great to see you this morning. thanks so much. also mark halperin. a programming note for you, cnbc will get their chance to host a presidential debate on wednesday, november the 9th, at 8:00 p.m. eastern time just about one year from the election the candidates will talk taxes, jobs, and the health of our economy. it will be broadcast exclusively on cnbc. the phrase we can't wait, that's the president's new campaign call and president obama is wasting no time announcing more executive branch
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actions to boost the economy. the latest in new health care jobs for vets initiative unveiled last hour that would create jobs for veterans and opportunities for vets to become doctors' assistants. today marks the second leg of his west coast swing with stops in san francisco, denver, and a war of words has already erupted with republicans who describe his plan as essentially a bailout for states. here is how the president hit back in vegas yesterday. >> their leader, mitch mcconnell, said that -- and i'm going to make sure i quote this properly, saving the cops of cops, teachers and fighters was just, quote, a bailout. these are the men and women who teach our children. who patrol our streets. who run into burning buildings and save people. they deserve our support. >> wendy schiller is an associate the professor of political science and public
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policy at brown university and joins me this morning. it's good to see you. as we're watching here, the president is really reaching out to americans that are struggling saying he's on their side but let's talk about where he was talking unemployment. in nevada it's over 13%. so who do you think those words mixed with his plan for the economy are going -- are going to be speaking to. and is it really going to be enough? >> well, i don't know if one thing will be enough for the president to regain his campaign mojo. but when you think about it, he is trying to use his executive power. what he's doing is setting the stage for saying, listen, if congress does nothing, i still can do things. i can do things at the margins. i can do things you think don't affect your life but you'll see in a couple of months that they do. he has a year until this election happens. i think he's being smart taking an outside the rose garden strategy, getting out of wa washington, the white house, going to the people. if washington is the problem, then obama is the solution and
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he's bringing the solution to the people. so i think that rhetorically and campaign wise this is a smart strategy for the president to keep doing these even if he gets attacked for being too small or bailing out, it doesn't matter. right now the senate is not even in washington. they're out of session. the house was out last week. congress is doing absolutely nothing. the only person doing something is president obama. >> you bring up attacks the republicans keep piling on. here is speaker boehner from the hill. take a list en. >> we're all concerned about the mortgage problems and the state of housing in america. the administration's tried three or four different plans over the last couple of years, frankly none of them have worked. >> wendy, do republicans on the hill continue to look tone deaf to what's really going on and the mantra of this do-nothing congress? >> well, i think you're raising a good point. if you keep promising things like the president has a smart
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idea, trying to implement it through executive power. that looks good. if it doesn't do anything, then he looks ineffective. they are figuring if they don't do anything and things get worse, then they'll be looked to for the solution, the grand solution, with the republican presidential candidate and take all three branches of government in november. i think this is a strategy to do nothing for a long time, see how bad it gets and then win big next november. and i think this is a risky strategy. millions of people need help and even if that help comes in a small way, it's still coming now directly from the president so they can't claim any credit for anything good that happens now as a result of these actions. and i think that's a veryries can can i strategy. >> you bring up next november. right now president obama seems to be in the catch 22 where republicans are slamming him telling him to get off the campaign trail. he still needs to be seen as running the country but he has this stalemate in washington, d.c. so when is the last time the country has actually seen a president in this position? have we ever? >> we haven't really seen this
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exact position. the last time we saw a president in this kind of economic trouble was jimmy carter at the end of his presidency and reagan at the end of his presidency. he wants to stay in the rose garden, in the white house, he lost and he lost big because he didn't get out and explain what he was doing to the people. i think obama is taking the right strategy here. the problem is you have a divided government and you have a problem when you have republicans who don't want to do anything the democrats want to do. who do the voters look to, who will they blame and who will they reward? sticking in the white house, staying there trying to run the country will get obama nowhere. i think this is a departure from what carter did. i think it's a smart departure. barack obama is no jimmy carter. >> thank you very much. a strange new ad from herman cain is blowing up, so to speak, and it has everybody scratching their heads this morning. his campaign manager smoking a cigarette in the ad and why does
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together we can do this. we can take this country back. ♪ i am america one voice united we stand ♪ ♪ i am america one voice ♪ okay. so herman cain's newest campaign ad featuring his campaign manager mark block lighting up in a new web campaign ad that has everyone talking today. we'll find out if the cigarette strategy works in iowa in january. meanwhile the cain campaign is launching a new ad in all 50
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states beginning today. >> 9-9-9 means jobs, jobs, jobs, and uprising has me leading this hour. but i need you. donate $9 or $999. every gift counts. >> we'll check in with his campaign ahead. joe the plummer, remember him? the entry into the race in the ninth congressional district was met with this response from congresswoman's office, his name is not joe. he's not a plumber and we're not sure what district he lives in. other than that he's the perfect candidate. joe legally worked as a plumber after leaving the air force. joe will make his intentions for 2012 official coming up tonight. on a different thoet for you this morning, police are warning that a serial rapist may be targeting sorority women in texas. take a look at this surveillance video from plano of a man police say is a person of interest in the case. the suspect has attacked four women all with the same
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description, they're african-american in their 50s and 60s and are alumni of the delta sigma theta sorority. >> if there are any victims out there, come forward. let us know. we're hoping once this video gets out there people can look at this over and over again and maybe see some traits that maybe they recognize in his walk. >> if you do have information you are asked to call plano police. now to south carolina. governor rick perry is making his address there this morning talking mainly about his new tax plan. taking to the stage after getting a brief tour. let's listen in. >> cuts taxes and it also cuts the spending. and it balances the budget by 2020 and it grows jobs and it grows the economy. it neither reshuffles the status
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quo nor expands the ways washington can reach into your pocketbooks. it reorders the way they do business in washington. by re-inventing the tax code and getting our nation back to fiscal health through balanced budgets and entitlement reform. sev central to my plan is giving every american the option of throwing out that 3 million words of the current tax code, and i might add the cost of complying with all of that code in order to pay a 20% flat tax on their income. [ applause ] the size of the current code is more than 72,000 pages. that's represented by this palate right over here and the
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reams of paper. that's what the current tax code looks like. the best representation of my plan is this post card. this is the size of what we're talking about right here. taxpayers will be able to fill this out and file their taxes on that. [ applause ] and each individual taxpayer will have a choice. you can continue to pay your taxes as well as the accountants and the lawyers under the current tax system that we've got or you can file your taxes on this post card. with the deductions on there for interest on your mortgage, your charitable give and your state and local taxes. and then deduct those and send it in. under my plan, you are no long er going to have to worry about
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paying taxes on social security when you retire. or your family members. [ applause ] yeah. or, john, your family members paying a death tax when you're gone. you can save -- eshg [ applause ] you think about that. he's worked hard. he's going to pass this on to his family one of these days. the idea the federal government will take half of that is nonsense. i might add you can wave good-bye to the capital-gains tax as well as a tax on dividends. we'll increase the standard exemption for individuals and dependents to $12,500. that means that families in the middle and on the lower end of the economic scale will have the opportunity to get ahead. taxes will be can cut across all income groups in america.
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and the net benefit will be more money in americans' pockets with greater investment in the private economy instead of the federal government. now on the corporate tax side, i'm offering an equally bold reform. our plan closes those corporate loopholes, ends the special breaks for special interests, and stops the gravy train of lobbyists and tax lawyers in washington, d.c. they're there at the trough. in exchange for a corporate free -- or i should say corporate tax free of carveouts and exclusions, i offer a much lower rate of 20% that represents the average corporate rate among the developed nations and it will make our corporations much more competitive on the global scale.
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we'll shut down the cottage industry of corporate tax evasion by creating a tax that is broad and fair and low. and my plan also offers incentives for corporations to invest in america again with two major reforms. [ applause ] first, we'll transition to a territorial tax system on corporate income that's earned overseas. and what this means is the companies that pay the appropriate the taxes in the country where that income was earned but aren't taxed a second time when that income gets moved back to the united states. and secondly, all corporate profits currently that are languishing overseas, i will offer 0 a one-time reduced rate of 5.25% for a limited period of time on those repatriated
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dollars to bring those dollars back to the united states. the u.s. chamber of commerce said this one-time tax reduction would bring back over a billion dollars in capital back to the united states. creating up to 2 million jobs and increase the economic output in this country by $360 million. in other words it's the kind of economic stimulus that president obama could have achieved if he wasn't so hell bent on passing big government schemes that have failed american workers. [ applause ] today's america's combined corporate tax rate of 39.2% is the second highest in the developed world. it's time to overhaul our tax
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code so that companies can invest more in their people and their products. tax rates have consequences. the liberals ignore the realities of human nature. they think raising rates will raise revenue. what they don't understand is that large employers have choices. and i might add so do wealthy individuals. and that includes moving money offshore. when they try to take -- when the federal government tries to take too much, they end up hurting the very people they supposedly seek to help, the working class. we need tax policy that embraces the world as it is, not what some liberal ideologue wishes it to be. the goal of my cut, balance and
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grow plan is to unleash job creation, to address the current economic crisis while at e same time generating a table source of revenue to address our record deficit and put our fiscal house in order. my plan should not be viewed in a vacuum. but in comparison to the continuation of the status quo. it provides employers and investors certainty which is critical, john, in getting capital back into the economy. the president's plan, it provides temporary tax relief which does nothing to encourage long-term investment because it doesn't provide the private sector any certainty. the way to stimulate the economy is not through temporary tax relief or government spending,
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it's to stimulate private spending through permanent tax relief. the flat tax will inleash growth but growth is not enough. we must put a stop to this entitlement culture that risks the financial sovereignty or solvency of this country for future generations. the red flags are alarming. >> we've been watching governor rick perry as he's addressing the crowd there in south carolina talking mainly about the economic plan that he has unveiled now. we want to bring in debbie wasserman schulz, a democrat from florida and the chair of the democratic national committee. it's nice to see you this morning as i'm sure you've been listening, what is your reaction when you hear how rick perry is talking about president obama and the fact he says he's only giving big government schemes that have failed the american people? >> well, my reaction to rick
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perry's new-old plan is the definition of instant, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. this is not a new idea. this is not something that is proposed for the first time. a flat tax has been introduced in the past and rejected because it blows a hole in the deficit. rick perry isn't addressing that. how would he pay for this? on top of that, it helps almost exclusively the wealthiest, most fortunate americans. he made a reference to the $12,500 for people making less than $50,000. the overwhelming majority is between $50,000 and about half a million. it does nothing for them. it just leaves them out in the cold and focuses on the same trickle-down economics that if you help the wealthiest somehow their investment, their windfall will flow down through the economy and help everybody and create growth.
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he mentioned dividends. he mentioned capital gains. he mentioned corporate profits. >> right. >> those are all the by-products of the wealthy in this country. where does he help the middle class? nowhere at all. >> when we talk about what the plan really means, there is a part in this plan that has the opt-out clause for the people that want to keep their current tax rate. why isn't that something that should appeal to everybody across this country? >> well, because the very fact that he's proposed an alternative to the current system that focuses only on the wealthiest americans means it is only them that would benefit. he's proposed nothing that actually gives a break to middle class and working folks. the people that i represent at home, they're in the middle. when i hear from them, they're not talking to me about their capital gains, about their estate taxes, about the dividends that they earn. they are talking about the middle income earnings that they
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have, that they just need to make sure they get some relief from. president obama has passed into law 17 different tax breaks to small businesses, thomas, and made sure that we cut taxes for the middle class. the bush tax breaks for the wealthiest, most fortunate americans, the massive tax breaks of 2001 and 2003 are part of what got us into the economic disaster that we had in the first place we're trying to climb out of now. and so this would just add to that burden and blow an even bigger hole and only help the wealthiest, most fortunate americans. they are trying to make sure there's some balance between deficit reduction that focuses on appropriate, smart spending cuts and generating some revenue and asking everyone to pay their fair share. that's how we make sure we will create growth. >> while giving interviews in regard to the economic plan that has come, perry has breathed fresh life back into the obama birther controversy. take a listen to this. this is what he had to say to
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john harwood about it. >> it's a good issue to keep alive, just donald is going to have some fun. i get it. i'm really not worried about the president's birth certificate. it's fun to poke at him a little bit and say, hey, how about -- let's see your grades and your birth certificate. >> what do you make of this strategy especially when everyone wants to be talking about or should be talking about the economic plan, how it compares and contrasts to mitt romney and herman cain. >> i think it's clear whether it's rick perry or mitt romney that they think that politics is a cynical game. the american people want to focus on job creation. mitt romney thinks corporations are people. he this is that a $1,500 tax break in the payroll tax is a little band-aid. for someone who is a multimillionaire for him, it might be a little band-aid. to middle class folks, they need to make sure they get that
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$1,500 in their pocket because they can buy a new refrigerator, do some repairs to their home that would be a boost to the economy, put people back to work. we need to keep teachers in the classrooms, first responders and police officers on the job. the which part that have bill are the republicans opposed to? they're proving again and again they don't care about the middle class. they only care about people at the top giving them all the benefits on then hoping somehow it will trickle down and benefit everyday americans. it's never worked. it won't work now and, again, it just makes it clear there's a very clear choice between the direction of president obama and the backwards direction that has never worked for the economy in the past and in fact made it worse the republicans would take us. >> debbie wasserman schulz, great to see you this morning. thank you. >> thanks. you, too. you're looking at new aerial footage from an occupy
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washington protest in oakland. they are clearing away protesters in front of oakland's city hall. now this was earlier this morning. they've been camped out in more than 150 tents scattered throughout the plaza. but city officials say they can't stay because of concerns about rats, fire hazards, violence and public urination at that site. after four weeks of damaging testimony from the prosecution, dr. conrad murray's defense team is now laying out its case and doing so with full force. the defense called five witnesses yesterday including a doctor who had treated michael jack sson several times. dr. allan metzger says the last time he spoke to jackson was at his home in april of 2009 when the star made a pretty odd request. >> he asked me about intravenous sleep medicine. >> did he happen to mention the name of this medicine? >> i think he used the word juice. i don't think i heard the word of a specific medication.
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>> when michael jackson inquired about intravenous sleep medication, you explained to him that that was dangerous, life threatening, and should not be done outside of a hospital, correct? >> that's correct. >> nbc's kristen dahlgren joins us live. i understand the defense is expected to lay out this new time line. so what more do we know about that? >> reporter: good morning, tom. it sort of hinges on the surveillance video we saw in court yesterday t. shows dr. murray getting home at 12:50 in the morning the day michael jackson died and then michael jackson arriving shortly thereafter at about 1:00 a.m. but they're trying to poke holes in the prosecution's time line in which their expert dr. steven shafer said that dr. murray began giving michael jackson medication at about midnight so those times don't really add up. it's one of the defense tactics to try to create some type of reasonable doubt with the jury. they are also going with this push to prove michael jackson
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was desperate the for sleep, that he was a drug addict and would have done anything to get sleep so when court resumes we'll see his nurse practitioner back on the stand. she has said that michael jackson also asked her for propofol. both professionals, the doctor and nurse, refused to give michael jackson that drug. the defense could wrap up late they are week, thomas. >> kristen, thanks so much. so it sounds like an episode of "glee" but a real high school music is prompting some football players to walk out in protest. we'll tell you what's getting parents and students so worked up next. [ female announcer ] that's the all-natural sugar she puts on her grapefruit. but is she eating sugar this week? maybe she wants the all natural, zero calorie stuff. but if you're wrong, you're insinuating she's fat. save yourself. it's only natural. helps defends against occasional constipation, diarrhea,
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welcome back, everybody. herman cain is making headlines for a new string of ads that seem strange for a presidential campaign. take a look for yourself. here is what voters will be seeing and hearing across america today.
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>> together we can do this. we can take this country back. ♪ i am america one voice united we stand ♪ ♪ i am america one hope ♪ >> my 9-9-9 plan creates 6 million jobs. obama doesn't want you to know because he doesn't want me to win. >> all right. so the first spot you saw was the tv ad featuring the cain campaign manager there smoking a cigarette at the end. the second one is the radio spot that's going to be airing in all 50 states across the country especially in iowa, a state where a lot of people spend time in their car. cain him seven is in texas, and that is where we find andrew. take us through both of these ads and how is the cain campaign responding to some of the
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backlash they're getting today about the tv spot? >> yeah, we have two very different ads, the radio ad, of course, is more of a traditional campaign ad. it is something that all candidates will be doing at some point. the web ad is getting all the attention on twitter, on the social media networks, that is really the talk of today. you see mark block, who is cain's chief of staff, smoking. and it starts as a very honest kind of appeal for why he thinks herman cain is a great candidate, why he wants -- why he's urging people to support him and then gets a little odd at the end which has all the attention with him smoking a cigarette. i asked the campaign what they thought of all the reaction, if they're surprised by it, how much traction this is getting. they're saying they're glad people won't find it funny, that it's getting so much visibility. i asked mark block why the end of that campaign ad are you smoking? and his reply was, it's just
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block being block. certainly mark block is someone who is not that well known on the campaign trail yet but i think this is going to boost his visibility quite exponentially. >> also, andrew, you talk about the radio spot, it is encouraging people to send in money. how is the cain campaign doing as they continue to rake in very strong numbers? >> i asked them the other day, what is it exactly you talked about a fund-raising boost. what are those numbers? they said they've been raising more than $1 million a week for all of october. that already puts them above that $2.8 million they reported last quarter and the radio ad where cain directs people to that website, that is essentially just a splash page. you go to that website it has the 9-9-9 plan detailed in almost the same fashion detailed on his actual website and then suggested donations of various
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9-9-9 amounts. andrew raferty, great to see you that morning. a staged kiss at a high school musical has some c connecticut parents and students outraged because the kiss was between two men. it depicts a high school where moment is the norm. an ironic spin on intolerance. the show went up on friday at the high school. watch and listen to the reaction from the stage. ♪ [ applause ] >> all right. so a few dozen kids walked out and after parents complained the school said the next date for the show will be optional for students. joining me now is the director of mentoring programs for true colors. also here is peter wolfgang, executive director and president of family institute of connecticut. i thank both of you for joining me today. did this play do exactly what it is meant to do, and that is begin a conversation about all of this, begin a conversation
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about tolerance and where it stands in connecticut, in that high school? >> it definitely started a dialogue. it started a dialogue in that high school but also it forwarded -- or it kept the dialogue going in the community which is wonderful. >> peter, your group did send out a mass e-mail on monday at hartford public high school. is it your estimation, are you saying the goal of the play is not to teach tolerance but rather seeing it could make you gay? >> well, no, thomas. 0 our argument is simply two things we object to. number one, this play should not have been shown in the school. it was an inappropriate topic but, more importantly, was this outrageous attack on parental rights. the principal, he's quoted in the newspaper saying this, deliberately chose not to let parents know ahead of time that this play would be shown so that parents, if they chose, could opt out their children so it was forced on the children. this goes way beyond dialogue. it was a sort of forced
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indoctrination and what people in the other 44 states that don't have same sex marriage need to know is that if you get same sex marriage, this is coming to your state. you will not have the right to decide for yourself what your children will be taught about right or wrong. the schools will step in and they will force this on you. we've had same sex marriage in connecticut for three years now. it was forced by the court. we warned these things would happen and just in three years all of our predictions are coming true. >> when you talk about it's indoctrination, it is education and being done from an educational level. kids can decide to opt out friday's show, not to attend the show. are you concerned the message won't be reaching the might people? >> youth were allowed to opt out for the first performance as well as the second and there were a few students who did walk out of the first performance. and then i have to thank the
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media for letting everyone know about this and being so loud about this because for the next performance the youth in the school knew they had allies and knew they were supported. the second performance, most of the can kids didn't walk out. i was there and i didn't see anyone walk out but i heard lots of support when the infamous gay kiss happened, there were eruptions of applause and the kids loved it. afterwards in the talk back session, many young heterosexual men we all like to believe are homophobic, many came up and said i'm happy this happened. i have gay family members. i have gay friends. and this is a place for them to be. this is a wonderful experience for those youth. >> this dialogue needs to be had more and more. i want to thank both of you for your time today. >> best to you, tom. >> our mission to remove gadhafi from his grip on libya is being
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former libyan leader moammar gadhafi buried in a secret desert location along with his son and a top aide. this according to a government representative. the islamic led prayers were read over the bodies. gadhafi's body had been on display in a freezer in misrata after he was killed in his hometown of sirte. it cost the united states over a billion dollars and there are some who want to make sure america is reimbursed for doing its part in bringing about positive change the one man, peter welch, as well as foreign
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operations wants to see that money back in the coffers of the u.s. it's nice to have you home with us this morning. take us through how you would like to accomplish this feat of getting the $1.1 billion back to the u.s. i understand that we do have an estimated $37 billion in frozen libyan assets. so does it just make sense to h estimated $37 billion in frozen libyan assets. does it make sense to take what's froze from there. >> we want to cooperate with the government. libya has to take the lead. it would be received as an act of enormous good will by american taxpayers. the president made a unilateral decision. it was bold and controversial. if the libyans paid by the american taxpayers, they to see that as an enormous good will. there is a reason for them to do it. they are rightly proud they overthrough this monster and want to own their revolution. they had help from the united states and nato and some arab
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count tris. what better way to say, we thank you for your help and we own our future. >> does that mean having to wait until there is a new leader in power that they would be able to come to this decision on their own? >> we do have to wait. it is not as if we have a collectible iou. this is something that libya would have to decide it is willing to do for the reason i mentioned. they have enormous challenges and wealth. it is an oil-rich couldn't tri. at some point, they will be able to pay that back. there is $37 billion in gadhafi assets that are frozen. they have challenges to put together a country that was destroyed by gadhafi. reasonable terms, reasonable times. it would be great good will by the american taxpayers if they came forward and paid us back. >> sir, great to see you this morning. thanks for your time. coming up, amazing once in a
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