we have the replacement the b-6111. and it has a nuclear yield of 300 kilo tons. yahoo. that does it for us tonight. it is time for the last word it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell at his new time. have a great night. the only person who can make herman cain look like a real candidate is rick perry and they are both making anne koulter look like a prophet. >> it is a case of desperate man. >> it is a great distraction. >> he's an idiot. >> if the birth certificate thing doesn't work, how about a tax cut for the rich? like a wicked huge tax cut. >> maybe even millions of dollars. >> tax cut across the board. >> enormous tax cut i for people

at the top. >> if we are going to show stuff, let's show stuff. >> cutting taxes for the wealthy. >> i don't care about that. >> rick perry rp has gone all the way down. >> it was a tax cut for fat cats. >> i consider him to be a fax cut. he says i'm bald. romney is nibbling. >> nibbling around the edges. >> what do you think when mitt romney -- >> i wasn't giving a lot of thought it to. >> and even herman cain's ads cannot convince you he's really running for president. ♪ i am america >> going to convince people my campaign is credible. >> hold on to the table and check this out. ♪ united we stand >> i'm going to smoke a cigarette and say watch politics, nation. >> the candidate who's smoking up the charts. >> i'm an american. >> if i make a statement, i'm willing to retract it. >> we can take the country back.

>> next question. >> are you presidential? >> i have no idea. >> if i make a mistake i'm going to admit i made a mistake. >> if you don't run, chris christie will be the nominee and we will lose. >> you have got to beat someone with someone, and the republicans don't have someone who can beat barack obama, and they know it. that's why polls show republican voters support bouncing around from one impossible dream to perry and now herman cain. we have seen it play before. every once in a while, one team doesn't have anyone who can beat the other team. ronald reagan was actually beatable in his re-election campaign but not by walter mondale. george h.w. bush was beatable but not by michael dukakis. president obama is definitely beatable with 9% unemployment. but republicans are on their way

to being stuck with a nominee they just don't like. it is simply the dislike and distrust of willard m. romney that is keeping the other republican candidacies alive and every day those candidacies survive, they make republicans and republicanism sound crazier and crazier. john harward last night, he will join us in a moment, he sat down with rick perry. >> mitt romney, after the president released his birth certificate earlier this year, said that issue is done and settled. i accept it. you chose to the keep it alive in your interview with "parade" magazine over the weekend. why did you do that? >> it is a good issue to the keep alive. donald has to have some fun and the issue is -- >> sounds like you have some

doubt about it. >> i haven't seen his -- i haven't seen his grades. my grades ended up on the front page of the newspaper, so if we are going to show stuff, let's show stuff. but that's all a distraction. i get it. i'm really not worried about the president's birth certificate. it's fun to poke at him a bit and say, how about let's see your grades and your birth certificate. >> are you saying that your comments about that are kind of a joke, or do you seriously have an unresolved question, like donald trump has about this? >> i don't have a clue where the president and what this birth certificate says. >> okay. here's a clue. a clue that everyone in america has seen, including rick perry. see what it says at the top. certificate of live birth, state of hawaii. this clue says that barack obama was born at 7:24 p.m. on august 4th, 1961 in honor lieu i lieu.

rick perry's inability to comprehend this clue, which is really actually a proof provoked the bush family to try to talk some sense in to george w. bush's former lieutenant governor. former florida governor jeb bush e-mailed the "washington post" a two-sentence statement reading, republican candidates should categorically reject the notion that president obama was not born in the united states. it is a complete distraction from the failed economic policies of the present. note, that jeb bush does not simply say they should reject the notion, but you should reject the notion that the president of the united states wasn't born in the united states because it is a distraction. today the republican candidates got more coaching from pat robertson. formerly the craziest person in republican presidential politics when he ran in '88. robertson did a wonderful

version of the pot getting all high and mighty with the kettle. pat robertson, the republican who was crazy before it was cool in republican politics actually thinks these republican candidates are too extreme and are going to end up the way anne colter predicted they would. >> i believe it was lyndon johnson who said don't these people realize if they push me ito an extreme position they will be rejected. they will make it so i can't win. those people in the republican primary have to lay off of this stuff. they are forcing their leaders, the front runners in to positions that will mean they lose the general election. now, whether this did to cain, i don't know, but nevertheless you will appeal to the narrow base and they will applaud the daylights out of what you are saying and then you hit the general election and they say no

way and then the democrat, whoever it is, is going to play these statements to the hilt. they have got to stop this. it's just so counterproductive. well, if they want to lose, this is the game for losers. >> joining me now, "new york times" writer and chief washington correspondent johnharwood. and co-author of "game change." thank you for joining me tonight. you got the big interview of the week with rick perry. s as you were sitting there and he was turning over his cards in effect and telling you what he wasn't supposed to tell you which is this whole birth certificate thing is just a good thing to keep alive, did you get the feeling that no one told rick perry here are the things we say behind closed doors and here's the stuff you say to john harwood. >> i think people got that message to him today because he had a press conference and cut

off the reporter. i don't know what his handlers told him ahead of time but i gave him several opportunities, as you saw in the clip that you played to say i'm kidding, i don't mean it. it is not really serious and he kept going in a way that was sort of half serious, half winking at the idea. it certainly was not what they wanted to be the message of the campaign today. i have to say, lawrence, when you say i got the big get, i think the pat robertson interview was a big get because i have been covering this stuff long enough to think that is an astounding statement from pat robber r ertson when that guy who ran in '88 is saying this republican field is extreme. it shows you what has happened with the intensity of the conservatism within the republican party an the affect it is having on this field. >> john heilman, pat robertson

as a reasonable man in republican presidential politics only these characters could have driven him to that position where he is more reasonable than they are. >> never thought you would see that. the center has moved to the right. we see how far it has moved to the rights when robertson is coaching on how to get to the center where you need to be to win an election. >> we know rick perry is in a lot of trouble with republican voters on immigration and calling them heartless, the voerters that is and that sort of thing. can this tax plan that he introduced today do anything to move his numbers as he's been just sinking? the trend line on him is disastrously straight down. >> i think so. i think the tax plan can do him good and set the table for the expenditure of the $15 million he's got in his campaign bank i

account. remember no one started advertising heavily yet. that's when we will find out, first of all f rick perry can do something to help his image. his numbers, the way people measure how voters perceive candidates. if it is positive or negative is underwater, like an underwater mortgage. he has to lift up the positive assessments of him and go after mitt romney. the expenditure of that money, with the kind of resources he's got and likely can still raise, at least for a while, is formidable. i think we will find out, certainly in iowa. he's a base of social conservatives. that is what he started with. his numbers have been plummeting. he will try to increase that. and this speaks to a level of unhappiness in the republican party that president obama maybe able to tap in a way more effectively than the last few weeks. >> let's go back to john har

wood's beth big get. i want to look at the piece where you talked about the flat tax that he introduced today. let's listen to this piece. >> in 1996, when your adviser steve forbes was run og an flat tax, mitt romney said it was a tax cut for fat cats. he says that about your plan, what do you say to him? >> i would say he has to look in the mirror. i consider him to be a fat cat. it doesn't matter to me what anyone says about this. i know what will work. >> john heilmann i go back to the perry staff the. no one told him, fat cat, that's a liberal democrat term. we republicans do not call rich people, investment bankers like mitt romney fat cats. >> especially, the candidate skills on display of this guy have been extraordinarily bad. you think of, john harwood interviews this guy on the eve of his big roll out of this tax

plan which is supposed to be his relaunch. what's the first thing he does as he steps over his own message. muddies the waters for the tax plan so half of the day only thing we have been talking about is the birther issue. there is good evidence to suggest that he wants to keep it alive and he was given the opportunity to walk away from it and he don't it. it is a nuts way to conduct yourself as a candidate and it goes to the thing that makes mitt romney the class of this field. whatever you want to say about mitt romney, he has run an extraordinarily disciplined campaign over the course of these ten months. he got in june fieshlly was it's been going on all year. he has stuck to his message, not chased the shiny robt objects and not chased the rabbits in the rabbit holes and that's what the other guys are doing. and this is a classic example. there are a lot of ways you can

attack mitt romney but i you shouldn't call him a fat cat. >> mitt romney did something similar in the debate when he said i'm running for office for pete's sake, that's why i can't have illegal people working. but this is where he used the fat cat language with you. how surprised were you? >> i wasn't too surprised because we saw herman cain do a little main street versus wall street thing with romney the other day and perry has been emphasizing the son of a farmer, modest upbringing thing. he is trying to play to a populous thing about romney being rich. yes, fat cat is a bad term within the republican party because of the class warfare connotations but he covered himself with the policy here. when you look at what he proposed 20% flat rate down from 35%. 20% rate for corporations down from 35. no dividend taxes no capital gains taxes, no estate taxes. people who think of themselves as fat cats realize they would do exceedingly well urn this plan and interestingly rick perry said he doesn't believe in a progressive tax system. >> rick perry could not be nicer to the fat cats.

>> thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. coming. how herman cain sends a message to voters with a cigarette. and i had a little twit wither conversation with donald trump today. i asked him to tell me anything i have ever said about him that is not true. his very, very surprising answer is in the "rewrite." [ male announcer ] nature valley sweet & salty nut bars... they're made from whole roasted nuts and dipped in creamy peanut butter, making your craving for a sweet & salty bar irresistible, by nature valley. i was told to begin my aspirin regimen. i just didn't listen until i almost lost my life. my doctor's again ordered me to take aspirin. and i do. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ mike ] listen to the doctor.

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coming up how republicans loch to campaign on tax reform that they will never actually do. bruce bartlett will join me and we will look at what is, by far, the weirdest campaign ad of the year, thank you to herman cain. but first, jon huntsman shows off the skills that no republican voters seem to care about on the colbert report.

>> terrifying. >> what did you just say? what did you just say? >> i just said i think that you ought to consider being my running mate for vice president. >> i'm so ready for the colbert -- we are going to get you, governor. you may be at 2%. we're going to get you up to whole milk. [ junior ] i played professional basketball for 12 years.

today i own 165 wendy's restaurants. and i get my financing from ge capital. but i also get stuff that goes way beyond banking. we not only lend people money, we help them save it. [ junior ] ge engineers found ways to cut my energy use. [ cheryl ] more efficient lighting helps junior stay open later... [ junior ] and serve more customers. so you're not just getting financial capital... [ cheryl ] you're also getting human capital. not just money. knowledge. [ junior ] ge capital. they're not just bankers... we're builders. [ junior ] ...and they've helped build my business. >> 20% flat tax. simple enough that you can file your taxes on a poels card.

that size right there. [ applause ] i told somebody, i said that's so simple jim geithner can even get it. >> rick perry announced his medicare and social security proposal today, but knowing how popular it would be with voters he decided to mask it as a tax reform proposal. >> the best representation in my plan is this postcard. this is the size of what we are talking about, right here. taxpayers will be able to fill this out and file their taxes on that. [ applause ] each individual taxpayer will have a choice. you can continue to pay your taxes, as well as accountants and lawyers under the current tax system that we got, or you can file your taxes on this postcard with the deductions on there for interest on your mortgage, charitable giving, state and local taxes, and then

deduct those and send it in. >> i don't know about the postcard thing. this is the actual form that the perry campaign put out, which is a full page. not dissimilar from the first tax returns, when income tax was invented. the signature feature of perry's plan is an alternative 20% individual tax rate which federal taxpayers could opt to pay or they could stick with the current tax code and form and the current irs. perry's plan allows for a 12,500 deduction for each dependent and he would allow deduction for mortgage interest, state and local income tax and charitable gifts for families making less than a half million dollars a year. the cover of his plan includes and endorsement from steve

forbes who claims it is the most exciting plan since reagan's. joining me is bartlett. former senior policy analyst. and he is the author of the new book "the benefit and the burden, american tax reform why we need it and what it will take." . thank you for joining us tonight. >> happy to be here. >> what would ronald reagan think of the flat tax po posal. >> ronald was sympathetic to the idea of a flat tax and he said so publicly on a number of occasions but when it came time to put a proposal on the table, he did not propose a flat tax and we ended up with the tax reform act of 1986. >> which basically limited deductions in certain ways and spread out rates in what is the traditional progressive form. this is a massive, massive tax cut for the very rich. it's presented as you have your choice which way you want to go but it is clear at the top end

of the income structure in this country, there's only one way to go and that would be with his flat tax. >> well, it's worse than that. it is a massive tax increase for a very large portion of the american population. i don't know the exact figures, but i would guess probably any family making less than $50,000 a year or so is probably going to pay more under perry's plan than they do now. >> and he's very open in the language surrounding this plan. as herman cain is, if people go and read enough of it, that this plan anticipates that we really will not have to fund social security or medicare for much longer. he wants people to be able to opt out of social security, younger workers, which means they would make no contributions to it and that flow of contributions is what enables us to pay out social security benefits. so this is, as much a removal of

those social programs as it is a giant tax break. >> that's right. but it is all a package deal as far as republicans are concerned. it is really rather astonishing, given what has happened in the stock market over the last few years. i'm certainly grateful that i didn't have all of my social security contributions in the stock market. and it really surprises me that this idea still has as much political traction as it does. >> it seems they learned their lesson with the polling unpopularity of the paul ryan plan to nebraska let's not talk about medicare or social security directly. let's talk about tax reform and cutting taxes and within that we can get to our goal on medicare and social security. >> perhaps. i think really it's just that the tax issue really animates republicans. it's just their bread and butter issue. it's how they judge each other. i'm more -- i have a bigger tax

cut than you. and show me yours. >> it does seem to be a boldest contest on tax cutting. >> slaughtly. it's, you know. i guess these guys -- i don't know about michele bachmann but they are hanging around the locker room too much comparing each other. i don't know. >> bruce bartlett, we will have to end it right there. we can't go further with that example. thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you. coming up, everyone's been talking about herman cain smoking ad, but wait until you see his even crazier one. and my relationship with donald trump just went to the next level on twitter, of course. and he got himself back in tonight's "rewrite." here too. we need more affordable energy in this country. we need to protect the environment. what about the economy? what about our planet? [announcer:] at conocophillips, we're helping power america's economy with cleaner, affordable natural gas. more jobs. less emissions. a good answer for everyone.

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on this day, 39 of the occupy street wall street protests, they released a report on household income distribution from '79 to 2007. the changes can be seen in this chart. they found between 1979 and 2007, the after-tax income for the bottom 20% grew by just 18%. the after-tax income for the middle 60% grew by 37%. the after-tax income of the next 19% grew by 65%. and the after-tax income for the top 1% of households in the united states grew by a

disproportionate 275%. they report as a result of that uneven income growth, the distribution of after tax household income in the united states was substantially more unequal in 2007 than in 1979. in tonight's profile in greed, jpmorgan chase ceo jamie diamond. diamond is a perennial wall street ceo who ran bank one, citigroup and smith barney before being with jpmorgan chase. at his most recent job, diamond earned $12.5 million. and his stock in jpmorgan alone is reportedly worth $232 million dimon expressed outrage when he called wall street bankers for calling them fat cats for continuing to doll out big bonuses during the economic crisis. speaking of calling him names he said "i think it is a terrible thick to do. there's good and bad. not all bankers are the same and i think this constant refrain,

bankers, bankers and baerngs is an unfair way of treating people. bankers, bankers, bankers. dimon cannot publicly endorse a president because he sit on the federal reserve but he does not seem bothered by the fact that willard m. romney referred to the highest income earners as fat cats. he met with him before a fund-raiser hosted by a hedge fund owned by jpmorgan. still ahead, everyone was weirded out by herman cain's newest campaign ad.

but the one he did this summer, that, the one that no one saw, is wicked weird. that's next. and donald trump started a chat with me on twitter, which gave me everything i need for tonight's "rewrite." thank you, donald. but first here's a preview of president obama's appearance later on tonight on "the tonight show." >> have you been watching the gop debates? >> i'm going to wait until everybody's voted off of the island. >> yeah really? [ applause ] >> once they narrow it down to

america's never seen a candidate like herman cain. we need you to get involved because together we can do this. we can take this country back. ♪ i am america one voice united we stand ♪ i am america one voice ♪ >> in the spotlight tonight, why even herman cain's campaign ads cannot convince us that he is really running for president. as has been reported here and elsewhere, herman cain continues to earn an income as a motivational speaker while he's supposed to be running for president. he continues to run his so-called campaign on a skeleton crew, headed by this man who

stars in cain's newest campaign ad. >> tomorrow, it's one day closer to the white house. i really believe that herman cain will put united back in the united states of america. >> okay. as peculiar as that ad may seem, herman cain created a much-ignored ad in august that is beyond bizarre. >> pretty flowers you got there, mister. >> uh-huh. pretty yellow flowers. >> well, i'm glad you like them. >> you know, i'll bet you are as yellow as those flowers right there. >> why's it always got to be about color? what are you guys, liberal? >> card carrying. >> so that's how it is going to

be, huh? >> hi, i'm international film and television star nick -- looking cool and reading lines off of a teleprompter someone else wrote makes a community organizer a real leader but herman cain is a real leader. this upcoming election is too crucial for us to be distracted by silly things like line readings and empty phrases like hope and change. >> okay, punk. get real. >> i stand with herman cain because herman cain stands with us. >> nice chicken, honey. >> speechless. and even without real tv advertising, herman cain is

actually still in the thick of his honeymoon with republican voters. got the new york times/cbs news poll released today. it shows him at the top of the field with 25%, mitt romney at 21%, newt gingrich at 10%. joining me now, msnbc analyst and opinion writer for the "washington post." thank you for joining me tonight, john. >> oh, my god. how are you? >> when it is wicked weird i call you from the bull pen because i'm speechless. please. three minutes, what did we just see. >> last night when i was here to talk about -- i think we were talking about rick perry i had already seen the smoking ad with mark block, the first commercial that you saw and i couldn't believe it was real and communicating with other people trying to figure out if it was real. now this afternoon, i see this new ad that you showed. i didn't think that was real. couldn't possibly be real.

it's so bad that no one who we would even imagine running for president would even associate themselves with something so horrendous and yet we find out that not only is herman cain attached to this monstrosity of a campaign ad, but it has been out since august and we are just seeing it now. say what you will about sarah palin and whether she was running or not running, but if you go to her site and you see any of the ads that she did, that's probably the only presidential thing she's actually ever done are those ads, highly produced. very credible. these are not credible. thooefrz these are incredible ads and the idea that herman cain thinks he can take this, the buzz that comes from these ads and march his way to the republican nomination and to the white house is laughable. >> we here at "the last word" offer our sincere apologies to america for not having found

that first ad he did in august before tonight. it is a horrible embarrassment for us. the campaign manager, this scott block who was in the ad smoking went on fox news today and said you walk in to a veteran's bar in iowa and they are sitting around smoking. that's his justification and the explanation for smoking in the ad. i think it is one of these things they are aware of the ban moves to ban smoking in some places, some in public park areas. this is their signal we will even smoke on our ads. >> that's maybe a worthwhile theory sort of literally blowing smoke. but i think they thought they were doing something that was helpful to their effort, their campaign and for herman cain and you know what, lawrence, if they put as much thought in to their

ground operation in iowa and new hampshire and south carolina as they put in these wacky ads, herman cain actually would have a foundation upon which he could rest these high-flying poll numbers that he has. >> johnathon capehart, msnbc and opinion writer for the "washington post." stick around the next segment is a trump segment. i'm going to try to do one without would you but i may need you back tomorrow night to see what i do next. donald trump and i had a fun exchange on twitter today. it was fun for me any wachlt. and legendary boxing promoter don king, yes, the don king went down to occupy wall street and spoke to the protesters. he will be joining me here later. [ male announcer ] if you think "heroes" are only in movies, consider this: over 70% of firefighters are local volunteers... these are our neighbors putting their lives on the line. and when they rely on a battery, there are firefighters everywhere who trust duracell.

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twitter. last year strongly predicted that tim pawlenty would be the winner. he is a total loser who is killing the msnbc brand. he's begging me to be on his show. i'm his only hope. o'reilly factor killed him. >> and i realized that -- in our twitter exchange, which will be available in full on our blog, i acknowledge that bill o'reilly has always been the highest-rated show in cable news, and i asked donald this -- what else did i predict? something about you, like the exact day you would reveal that you were not running? that was so easy. and i asked, have i ever been wrong about you? please tell me one thing i got wrong about you. before i tell you donald's response to what i got wrong about him, let's review some of the many things that i have said about him this year, including the many things that he has said

that i have told you are lies. now, you can keep your own count of how many things you are about to hear me say that donald trump will insist are not true. >> he's not going to run may 16th is when nbc announces the new schedule for shows next year. donald cannot afford to pass up his paycheck from nbc. there's nothing else that gets him through the day. he's going to be an nbc star on television next season. he's never going to be a presidential candidate. remember the investigators he said he sent to hawaii to investigate the president's birth. i told i you from the moment he said it he was lying about that. that he has not sent any investigators anywhere to

investigate the president's birth. the liar will never produce any report by any investigators. he will never name those investigators. his fake campaign will be over by may 16th when nbc announces the upcoming season. >> mike issakotf answered the question that donald cares about more than anything else and of course donald lied his way through the answer. >> how much are you worth? >> a lot of money and you may see that number in 70 or 80 days. forbes said 2.7 billion and 2.7 is very low. it's much lower than the actual number that i may be showing to people and to the rest of the world in a couple of months. >> real billionaires, none of whom have the time to hang with donald trump do not work as cast members in nbc primetime entertainment shows, which, of course, is how donald actually

makes his living. i said many times that donald trump is not rich enough to run for president. he has, throughout his life, lied about how rich he is. donald posted a video this week on his you tube channel in which he answered the question he says many people are asking him. why didn't you run for president. his rambling incoherent answer came down to this -- >> so i look at the kinds of things that are happening and on top of that, nbc is calling me on an hourly basis, offering me all sorts of money to continue with the apprentice which has been a tremendous hit show for nbc and frankly for me and at one point i just said, you know what, i think it is time to take the money. >> so i don't run for president because nbc is calling me and it's just time to take the money. donald trump just told you that the reason he didn't run for president was the money.

nbc was offering him to continue his job as an nbc performer . this from a guy who pretends to be a billionaire. there's no billionaire who looks at a tv job and thinks it's time to take the tv money. donald is worth no more than a couple million dollars in salary, if that, to nbc and he's lucky to be worth that. so after all of that, which is really just the tip of the iceberg of what i have said about donald trump on this program this year, and after asking him today, have i ever been wrong about you? his tweeted reply was "lawrence, yes, great hair and it's actually mine." my tweeted reply to that was, never said that was not your hair. i take this tweet as confirmation that i have never

been wrong about you, thanks. and donald, i mean it. thank you very much. so donald trump, thereby tweeted his confirmation that the following things are true. he lied about hiring investigators to go to hawaii. throughout his life he has lied about how rich he is. he cannot afford to pass up his paycheck from nbc, which is worth no more than a couple million dollars a year, a fraction of bill o'reilly's tv paycheck. he was never going to be a presidential candidate because among other many other prohibitive reasons he's simply not rich enough to pay for a presidential campaign and no, he is not a billionaire. on the matter of his so-called hair, donald and i have no quarrel. i see no reason to doubt the man. a wig would never behave like this. ♪ you're so vain you probably i think song is about you ♪ you're so vain ♪

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mayor michael bloomberg has so far avoided a showdown with occupy wall street protesters but city officials across the country are losing their patience. they are trying to disperse protesters in oakland who marched toward city hall. arrests have been made but police cannot confirm how many at this time. just before dawn in oakland this morning police in riot gear cleared out 350 protesters using tear gas and bean bags. the mayor released this statement today. many oaklanders support the goals of the national ok pie wall street movement. however, over the last week, it was apparent that neither the

demonstrators nor the city could maintain safe or sanitary conditions or control the ongoing vandalism. the city said protesters can now occupy the plaza between 6:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. but not overnight. a new poll out today shows 43% of americans say they agree with the view is of occupy wall street movement. 27% said no. they disagree with those views. the poll found two in three say that wealth is not distributed fairly in america while just one in four says wealth is distributed fairly. massachusetts senate candidate elizabeth warren has embraced the occupy wall street movement and she told the daily beast, i created much of the intel lech chulg foundation for what they do. i support what they do. joining me is a man who was just at the occupy wall street tonight, boxing promoter, don king. >> it is a delight. first let me say i'm welcoming home our troops.

without them, the people who put themselves in harm's way with their valor we couldn't sit here on with lawrence o'donnell. god bless our troops, good bless america and our president barack obama. >> you are an 80-year-old working man with a lot to do. what the heck are you doing at occupy wall street? why did you go down there? >> i love america and i think that what many people may miss the boat on is the first amendment gave the right to protest and demonstrate and to go for your grievances and the freedom of speech. you know, the press could not exist. you couldn't sit here without the first amendment. every time you say something about somebody, somebody would come at you and then the money and influence would stop you from being able to retaliate to find a way or means to carry your message. that that's the jourpallistic creed. you have to be able to

understand what they are doing is pure americana. so our nation's greatest resource is its people. people's greatest resource is children. yesterday, today and tomorrow. so yesterday was our day. today is the present and tomorrow is our future and our kids with student loans with no escape clauses due in perpetuity. they are underwater and if we don't stop drowning our future we are going to find ourselves in a pretty sick position. that's what i'm fighting for. i'm fighting for america, they are doing what americans should do without being slaughtered indiscriminately without remorse from some regimes around the world where they put force on to them. we have to be careful how we use this force mechanism because remember in 1931 in the bonus, the bonus babies where were the nation's soldiers would go out in world war ii come home to get their bonus and couldn't get

their bonus and they had macarthur and different leaders in the army fighting their former colleagues and soldiers. when these soldiers come home, they are going to want jobs. we can't keep up with the hypocrisy that we practice saying how great, courageous, what valor and patriotism and when they come home you don't have a job and can't make a living. that won't last. you can't doing that. i hope we are prepared to help the beautiful veterans that protect and safeguard our liberties, something that we can do for them, lawrence and that should be the last word without a question of a doubt, unequivocally we should be prepared to accept them and help them and to make them feel what america feels for them being proud, but not with words but actions and deeds. so i'm looking forward to the outcome of the christmas holiday with my soldiers and sailors and

the men and women whose valor and courage put themselves in harm's way for our freedom and our liberty and then we are going to kick them the to the curb with some type of pontiff case and political speeches. we can't accept that. >> that is perfect because i didn't have a second question. [ laughter ] >> i got don king. >> i love you. >> i need one question with don king to get through the rest of the sho. >> i feel so good about being on the show. i admire you and what you are doing with "the last word." >> do you have any extra ties? i feel i have to express my patriotism in 34i clothing more than i do. >> yes, i do. i happen to have one. i can give you this one because i have several. i went to the store today and bought so many of them. anything with america and the stars and stripes it endaers itself to me and my heart. america is the great estimation nation in the world. let's work toward it. >> don king takes us all the way to "the last word." >> remember to vote november 5th in florida. >> it is a coalition for jobs. that's what it is used for. >> thank you very much. >> lawrence odonnell.