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"politics nation" with the great al sharpton starts right now. >> hey, rep, you sure up to talk about class warfare? wrong way ryan says he wants us all to get along, but he till wants to gut medicare. a shocking report that shows income has grown for the rich by 275%? congressman keith ellison and jared bernstein on this country's great divide. >> how can you say no to creating jobs at a time when so many people are looking for work? it doesn't make any sense. is the president hammers republicans in colorado on jobs, and kickstarting the economy.
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>> candidate cain's viral video inspiring a few spin-offs, but what about votes? he's meeting in ohio. nia malika henderson and dana milbank ones cain crisis. and parent alert, the baby whisperer wrangles a fussy infant. now can he quiet the big babies on the hill? "politics nation" starts right now. welcome to "politics nation." i'm al sharpton. tonight's lead -- class warfare republican style. folks, everything you need to know about class warfare can be summed up in this eye-opening graphic. during the past three decades, the top 1% in this country saw
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their earnings grown by 275%. but during that same sometime, the middle chunk of this country only saw a 40% growth. this is from a government report. and the poorest fifth, they only saw 18% in this. this is stunning. for republicans who might not get it, here's another chart. that top line that sky rockets. that's the income of the top 1%. that line barely making any progress at the bottom. those numbers are appalling, but paul ryan is even more so. >> instead of appealing to the hope and optimism tharn the hall marx for the first campaign, he has launched his second campaign by preying on the emotion of fear, envy and resentment, it
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makes america weaker, not stronger. it's disappointing this president's access v. exacerbated this form of class warfare in so many ways. are you serious?eir income in the past 30 years, and you're fighting for their tax cuts? that's the real class warfare. right, mr. buffett? >> my class has won. we've gotten our tax rates reduced dramatically. >> you heard the man, but all i hear out of you is this -- >> we could get into this, tax the rich, tax the rich, but that is not -- that's not the basis for america. >> higher taxes are not the answer. >> why are we even talking about tax hikes. >> tax increases i think are off the table. >> off the table?
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let me show you hoe ridiculous you are. the president is proposing a jobs plan funded by the wealthiest 0.2% of these taxpayers. that's about seven inches of a football field. american taxpayers are this whole field, and your party is concerned about seven inches of it. that's about half the length of an actual football. you accuse this president of class warfare? >> when i wake up every single morning, what i'm thinking about is how to create an america, in which you have opportunity in which anybody can make it if they try, no matter what they look like, no matter where they come from, no matter what race, creed or faith. we are going to make the dream that all americans share real once again, and that starts
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right now. it starts with you. >> joining me now, congressman keith ellison, and jared bernstein, former economic adviser to vice president biden, now a senior fellow at the center on budget and policy, priorities and an msnbc contributor. thanks to both of you for joining mess tonight. how are they saying this with a straight fade? >> it's impossible to know that. but what's even more shocking is that every republican candidate wants to even intensify and increase the difference with the rest of us and the superrich. every single candidate, their plan increases taxes on the middle class, and yet if you look at the 9-9-9 plan, which
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herman cain tows, his plan would cut taxes on the top tenth by $1.4 million a year, but it would raise taxes on the average working american by $3,000, on the top 1%, it would cut their taxes by about 238%. this is outrageous, and you know what? there's no doubt why people are occupation everywhere. this is absolutely intolerable, and americans aren't going to stand for it. >> jared bernstein, when you look at the ryan plan, let's go off of what the congressman just said. look at the ryan plan. it says that two thirds of the cuts come from low-income programs, $2.9 trillion. other program cuts, $1.6 trillion. so they're talking about the president with class war fare. while they want to cut programs to the poor. >> right. >> they want to protect tax cuts to the rich, and then turn
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around with class warfare. i come from new york. it's like going to times square with a three-card monty. they're playing a shell game on the american voters. >> right. in fact, if you look at ryan's budget, what he does with those savings, the trillions he's taking from programs for the most vulnerable is he pours them right into the tax cuts for those at the very top of the income scale. in fact -- >> wait a minute. rewind, because i want people to get this. so he in effect is cutting programs for poor and working-class people to pay for the richest tax cuts. >> this is robin hood in reverse, okay? you take from the poor, give to the rich. >> that's just plain robbing, but go ahead. >> you can really draw a very consistent line, reverent from the budget the house republicans have adopted, to the very plans that congressman ellison was just very accurately discussing. the problem that i think the american people have with this is it's piling on, it's
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unnecessary roughness to get to your football analogy, because we already have a big inequality problem. this makes it a lot worse. >> congressman ryan also doesn't stop there. he goes into his medicare plan. ryan's medicare plan is to privatize through a voucher program, raise costs for seniors by $6,400 in 2022. "wall street journal" said the plan will essentially end medicare. i mean, are we going bonkers or what here? >> well, in my opinion, yeah, this is a bonkers plan. it is robin hood in reverse. it's robbing, like you said, stealing, but the thing is the american people have a role in this. we can stand up and say no more. we are not going to tolerate this cruel, callous economic system which punishes work and
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rewards people who already have so much. the fact of the matter is the american people don't resent rich people. we just resent being ripped off. the american people want to have an american dream in which any kid anywhere can aspire to do well if they work hard. that's not too much to ask for. they are ruining this country. >> i think again we have the wrong premise. you're absolutely right. why are we defending it? they're cutting poor people. it's not whether we have something against rich people. it's whether they have something against poor people or working people. no one is proposing to do anything to rich people, but say pay user share. >> exactly. >> it's as if you came into the american economy from outer space, and you looked around, and you decided the problem here is that rich people don't have enough money, and that retires have too much health care security, and too much retirement security, and the poor have -- their safety nets are too strong, so we have to reverse all of that.
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>> and we're going to reward the rich with more money, take it from the poor and accuse the president, as ryan said today, of class warfare if you dare interrupt the conversation. >> exactly. the republican -- the problem with the republican plan, simply put, is that they're scratching exactly the wrong itches. we've got a lot of real problems in this economy, job, incomes for the middle class, all of these things go exactly the wrong way. that's why the american people are so disappointed, so active upset that folks in this town simply aren't listening to them. >> congressman, it's not just ryan. look at boehner. boehner, you're the speaker in your house at this point, certainly no choice of yours. >> at least for a short while. >> he talked about deregulation today. look at how he is trying to deregulate everything so we again expand this inequality.
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>> this is a federal regulatory onslaught like no one has seen. i don't want dirly air. i don't want dirty water. come on. it's about what makes sense in order for america to compete. >> now, we need to regulate, because we're trying to protect people. he calls this talking about dirty water and dirty air like it doesn't mean anything, and then when he makes these arguments about deregulation, jared, let me show you this graph of who did regulating and deregulating. mr. obama, president obama has done 5% fewer than president bush, so again they are saying things that are not true. that's why we come on every night, so the american people
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understand the difference between what is real and what is spent. >> look, the republican party, for a long time, as everyone is watching, you know, has an agenda to cut taxes. the fact that they're trying to map this onto a jobs plan is something that's very simple to see through. all of a sudden shuttering, closing the epa becomes a jobs program? that's simply not serious, not credible. what the president is talking about, the measures from his jobs act will unquestionably create some employment, get the rate moving in the right direction, but as long as they guys are blocking him, again they're simply not addressing what america needs them to address. >> reverend al, can i say two -- >> i have a question -- >> yes, sir. >> i need to ask you this. certainly the populism espoused by herman cain and 9-9-9 would certainly handle some of this inequality, wouldn't it? >> it would expand inequality.
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as a matter of fact, i hope you can see this chart. let me tell you what it says. it shows that under the 9-9-9, the middle-class people would see their taxes go up by about $3,000, but the top 1% wooze their taxes cut, and the top tenth of 1% would see their taxes cut by $1.4 million a year. 9-9-9 will take an already bad situation and make it way, way worse. the 9-9-9 needs to be 86ed. >> et tu mr. cain? good to see you both tonight. >> thank you. this man is fighting for the middle class. plus breaking news. willard finally found an opinion. too bad it comes after another epic flip-flop.
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and a day later, we're still wondering what in the world this herman cain ad is all about. maybe letterman is on to something. >> government must get off our backs, out of our pockets, and out of our way. you're watching "politics nation" on msnbc. [ male announcer ] whether over a cup of maxwell house... or a can of paint... you came together to vote, to share... to volunteer. and now, thanks to you, 10 communities have more to smile about. what's next? tell us on facebook.
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folks, president obama winning. he's all over the country, fighting for jobs, and it's working. let's just look at the last month. on the 11th, republicans shoot down the president's jobs plan. >> any senator who votes no should have to look you in the eye and tell you what exactly they're opposed to. >> what we're going to do is break up the jobs bill. maybe they couldn't understand the whole thing all at once.
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>> thing on the 20th, republicans say no to a jobs bill, and the president calls them out on it. >> republicans in the senate blocked a jobs bill for moving forward, a bill that would have meant nearly 400,000 teachers, firefighters, and first responders being back on the job. i'm going to keep forcing these senators to vote on common sense paid-for jobs proposals. >> two days ago the president announced another plan. this one was for struggling homeowners. >> the agency that is in charge is going to be taking a series of steps to help responsible homeowners refinance and take advantage of low mortgage rates. >> and today the president charged ahead with the plan to help college students. >> we should be doing everything we can to put a college education within reach for every american.
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>> this is someone fighting for the 99%, and this is what winning looks like. a new poll showed the president's approval rating at 46%, up 3% from last month, and republicans beware, because he's not letting up. >> last week for the second time this month, republicans in the senate blocked a jobs bill from moving forward. it was supported by an overwhelming majority of the america people. but they still said no. it doesn't make sense. it's time to put country ahead of party. it's time to put the next generation ahead of the next election. >> joe madison, sirius/xm radio host and bill press also from sirius/xm radio, thank for
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coming on the show tonight. joe, how much longer before republicans wake up and realize they're losing the debate? >> they're not. they won't wake up and realize it. guess what? the debate really hasn't started. they're debating among themselves why they attack, of course, president obama, but can you imagine -- i can't wait until after the first republican primaries in february i think is when you're going to see a debate, because that's when president obama, as we both understand, will really then be able to focus like a laser on whoever the candidates are, whether the two or the one. >> now, bill, you and many of us have said we wanted in the early summer to see a more aggressive president obama take them on, and he's starting to do that. do you think that is why we're starting to see the polls changing and it seems like momentum beginning to go his way? because we're starting to see a
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fighting president? >> oh, no, absolutely, reverend al. let me tell you, i think we're seeing a whole new president. the last couple years, you and i both at times said we weren't sure he knows how to govern, but he does know how to campaign. it's a right combination of the right policies and right politics. he is out there fighting for jobs, fighting for people struggling with those big mortgages, fighting for students, and he's painted the republicans into voting against cops, against teachers, against firefighters, against construction workers. i think he is -- this is as strong as we'll probably ever seen him until joe says we get up against one republican candidate. it's a brilliant pop you list strategy. >> now, joe, the republicans can't seem to settle on where their candidate is, because it seems like the tea party has, if not amassed 9 power in the party, they certainly seemed to
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have amassed veto power on the republican party. they vetoed whatever candidate they didn't like. it's like the tail wagging the dog in that kind of analogy. so what happens? i mean, as they go through now the early winter, and they're a little battling, and it's a different front-runner every month or so. how -- if mitt romney does end up staying there becoming the nominee, he becomes probably the most default nominee we've seen in the last several decades -- >> you ran for president, right? and you know and bill knows what's going to happen. the sound clips are already there. the -- it's like a circular firing squad. they have now given the administration and the democrats all of the sound clips they'll need to defeat them. i'm smiling, because all of them jumping aboard this 9-9-9, one
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form or another. reverend sharpton, i'm hear to tell you before this is all over, 9-9-9, will be 9-1-1, they'll be crying for help. it's a very stupid move for them to get into this flat tax, the congressman from minnesota -- minneapolis just showed you the red line. those are rich people getting tax breaks, and folks know it. i hate to be like this, but the stars have aligned. you have the right attitude, the president is listening now, i think, to his critics. you have the timing of the wall street and oakland people. i think -- it's all aligned. >> well, bill, the approval rating of the congress is about as low as you can go, 9%. the president is picking up in the polls, and last night on jay
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leno, he showed a little humor. about how americans are not plugged into all of this. maybe he's doing the smart thing by getting out of the bellway and talking about people looking at their belts. >> and looking at that traffic in los angeles. >> look at this. >> halloween is coming up, and she's been giving -- for the last few years kids fruit and raisins in a bag. >> ooh. >> i said, the white house is going to get egged if this -- if this keeps up. >> yeah, you got to go -- >> you need to throw some candy in there. >> moderation, exactly. >> a couple reese's pieces or something. >> yeah, yeah. >> reverend al, let me tell you, i think one of the best thing the president is doing right now is getting out of the white house. north carolina, virginia last week, california, nevada, colorado this week, he's out
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there with the people, and he's hitting in the right issue, congress controlled by john boehner and mitch mcconnell, 9% approval. in that "new york times" poll, 17% of americans say that the policies of the republican party favor the rich. two thirds of them are support raising taxes on people making over a million a year. so the president's message i think is getting through. >> al, i'm going to have to criticize your staff. they got the wrong clip. it should have been the roscoe's chicken and waffle with the hot sauce. >> i'm going to use that another night. blame that one on me. thank you both for being on with us tonight. >> i've been to roscoe's. i love it. >> watch the hot sauce, bill. >> i'll show that later this week. >> all right. up next, blame it on rio. rick scott is making some grand
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the republican presidential race isn't just getting ugly and nasty. it's becoming downright hysterical. joining me now to talk about what might be the most ridiculous turn the campaign has had so far is nia malika henderson, a political reporter for "the washington post," and once again, bill press hanging in there from sirius/xm radio. thank for joining me tonight. >> good to be here. >> good to be here. >> i want to show you this ad, just in case there's someone in america who hasn't seen it. >> america has never seen a candidate like herman cain. we need you to get involved, because together we can do this.
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we can take this country back. ♪ i am america ♪ one voice united we stand ♪ i am america ♪ one hope -- >> of course, that's herman cain's campaign manager mark blount, blowing smoke at america. the ad is a web hit, and lit up the late night talk shows, too form. >> i was so impressed by these ads, folks, i have made ads of my own. >> no one has ever had a vision for america like herman cain. we hope you share or vision. ♪ i am america >> they're enig mattic. take a look at this one. >> rich lowery here, chief economic adviser for herman
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cain. government must get off our backs, out of our pockets and out of our way. ♪ i am america ♪ one voice united we stand >> you never actually hear herman cain speak, so we added some voice-over. i think it works even better than this. >> i'm herman cain, and i approve cigarettes. if that doesn't make me sound crazy. check out this smile. yeah. 9-9-9. >> also joining us, dana milbank from "the washington post." nia you have beenlogging about this like crazy. >> yes. >> herman cain is number one in the polls. >> he is, is the joke on the gop, are we being "punk'd" with this ad?
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they almost don't do justice, but you're right, herman cain for whatever reason is cyring in the polls, but it could be because he's doing so well. he's not campaigning for president in a traditional way. i think he's in texas yesterday. maybe this is the key to succeed, now even campaigning in these early states. >> dana, i must say it's a novel way of campaigning. i don't know any other way to explain it. but in fairness, dana, i want to show you this, the most famous smoker in america this week, mark went on fox to explain this ad. i think he did a lousy job, but dana, you are a more objective than me. look at this. >> there was no subliminal message. in fact, i personally would encourage people not to smoke. it's just that i'm a smoker, and as a lot of the people on the staff said, just let block be
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block. you walk into a veterans' bar in iowa, and they're sitting around smoking, and, you know, we are resonating with them. >> now, i don't know what you know, dana, but he is right, it's not subliminal. it's blatant. there's nothing subliminal about the ad. now you're calling the veterans and their bars smoking -- i mean, they are rewriting politics or flunking one or the other. i haven't figured it out. >> you are the reverent, so you would no better than i, but if you flip 9-9-9 upsidedown, you get 666. maybe the devil maid hem do it. that's the best explanation i can come up with. but the one perhaps slightly better explanation is he doesn't care and figures any presses good press, and we have bill
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press. but the idea is if you just say his name, as we're saying it, he thinks that's good for him to get his name/idea out there, even if we're laughing or think he's ridiculous. >> while we're laughing, look at the polls. he's number one, in south carolina he's null better one. so cain is -- i mean, if he is a joke and being taken more seriously than the rest of them, what does that say? >> perry is kind of worrying. it seems like all of that energy and those folks who liked perfectly are parked at the doorstep waiting for whatever, for him to come to iowa, to new hampshire, but this is baffling to me. i wish i could come on and explain it and make it sound perfect, but it's baffling. he's running such an
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unconventional campaign, as mark block says, and he's doing amazingly well for now. >> bill, perry is trying to get back in this, though. perry has said, let me try to pick a fight with romney. he came in swinging almost recklessly. watch this. >> you can't be for banning guns and then all of a sudden you're, you know, for the second amendment. you can't be for the issue of abortion -- he says, listen, i need to say whatever i need to say, for whatever office i'm running for. how do you change at the age of 50 or 60 positions on life? positions on guns? positions on traditional marriage? i mean, those aren't minor issues, bill. so to change those at the age of 50 or 60 tells you all you need to know about that. >> well, that's ha perfect ad, bill, for the obama reelection
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campaign. but go ahead. >> yeah, yeah, i was going to say, there's no doubt we know mitt romney is the perennial flip-flopper. he did it again today. yesterday he said he didn't know where he stood on issue 5, and today he says, no, i'm totally behind john kasich. i just want to issue a little word of reality about herman cain at the top of these polls, reminding us all that michele bachmann was at the top a while ago. she's at 2% in the latest poll. rick perry had his time at the top. i think everybody's just enjoying herman cain, he's different. he'll be down at 3% or 4% in a couple weeks. now, dana, explain that to me. you had donald trump first, a big winner? the polls. then as sarah palin, then michele bachmann, then rick perry, now you have herman cain,
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i mean, what's going on here? have you ever seen this kind of volatility? >> volatility. no, it's been -- dana, you want to take this one? >> sure -- >> it's a volatile thing. i don't know if the tea party can't make up their mind or who they like. you saw perry come in and try to play the birther card. he's backing off of that now, but it's a volatile time. other than the fact that they don't like romney. it's 234ib but romney. that seems to be what they have decided. >> well, dana, on this show you have the last word. >> well, newt gingrich is making a run. i think you're going to see him peak pretty soon. they want anybody who is not obama, anybody who's not mitt romney. the lesson they have taken from herman cain is crazy works, it sells, that's why you have rick perry coming back to the birther movement. i think they're trying to outdo
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each other the op sid of cool and collected, which is what we're getting right now. ni a a ma lina henderson, bill press and dana milbank, thank you, as always. still ahead, vanity license plates that use taxpayers money to undermine a woman's right to choose. it's an outrageous story, and we'll tell you about the fight to stop it. plus, being commander in chief is hard enough, but how about baby whit perrer? whisperer? this is "politics nation" on msnbc. [ shapiro ] at legalzoom, you can take care of virtually
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tonight's gop voter suppression update takes us to south carolina. back in may a bill was signed to require photographic i.d. in spokes, the state election commission put out these ads. they're claiming to get the word out telling voters to have an i.d., but there's one major problem. they failed to mention that mail-in absentee voters don't knee a photo i.d.
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just say, show me the carfax. today the attack on women's rites to choose suffered a big setback when a federal judge blocked part of a north carolina law that forced women to view ultra-sounds before having an abortion. but most of the law is still on the books. that includes an outrageous new choose life license plate. each plate will send $15 to fund so-called crisis pregnancy centers. you probably have seen ads for these centers. they promise options for women facing unplanned pregnancies. but really they're just fronts for conservative anti-church groups. a new report by says they centers use false advertising,
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misleading women with inaccurate information, and use counselors who have little, if any, medical experience. recent documentary shows how these anti-choice activists hide the fact they don't actually offer abortions. >> when she calls and says, do you do abortions? i say, are you calling for yourself or calling for a friend? she says i'm calling for myself. i say, when did you have a pregnancy test? and we engage in conversation. if she calls and said, do you do abortions? and i say, no, click. >> joining mess, thanks for joining me tonight. were you surprised by these
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findings? >> yeah, we were really alarmed. no matter how one feels about the question of legal abortion, i think we can all agree that women shouldn't be manages led about their health care options, and unfortunately that's clearly what's happening at crisis pregnancy centers in north carolina. the report states clearly several cpcs outfitted their staff in scrubs and lab coats like those worn by doctors and nurses in legitimate hospitals and clinics. in these centers, they have actually were found to be clothing people looking like doctors and nurses when in fact they had no medical experience at all? >> that's correct. about 94% of the center it is we
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investigated. actually some were performing medical services, such as free ultra-sounds and sti testing. wait a minute, carey, let me pull that graphic up. you say 94, our research is 92% don't even have medical professionals on staff? >> that's correct. that's correct. >> 24% disclose they're not medical facilities? how how are they allowed to operate advertising to women that they can come here and get abortions? >> well, because of the fact that they're not licensed medical facilities, they don't have to disclose that information, and they don't, you know, in many of the fine print says that our volunteers collected says things like, we can disclose your medical information to anyone we want to. the reason for that is they're not bound by the privacy laws
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that legitimate medical facilities are upheld to. >> now, let me show you something else out of your report. the false claims that they have put up in this crisis pregnancy centers, they say increase risk breast cancer, post-abortion stress. abortion is a very risky procedure. condoms and oral contraceptives don't work. i mean, whatever one's views of abortion or pro-life or choice, to just outright fabricate things, many women going through a traumatic and stressful decision-making in their life, to use false information to further add to that is the most immoral and should be illegal thing in the country. >> we agree with that. we agree. it's very alarming and disturbing that many crisis pregnancy centers are telling women that condoms just aren't
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effective. that puts their health at risk and puts the health of the community at risk, and scaring women out of having an abortion by telling them that it's going to cause things like breast cancer when the natural cancer institute, as well as the centers for disease control and prevention have both debunked that claim, telling women that it causes post-abortion stress syndrome, that's not even a medically recognized term, so the lies that cpcs are continuing to espouse are incredibly alarming and disturbing. >> and they seem to be pushing this. let me show you this map. since 2010, you've had measures in 16 states all over the country in a-- enacting laws since 2010. so this is a political movement. again, people have the right to agree to it, but you don't have the right to lie.
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it's tough enough become the commander in chief, but now folks look for the president to be a baby whisperer too. during the california trip this week, the president ran into a mother hoping he had the magic touch. [ baby crying ] >> oh, you're hungry? >> okay. so the baby calmed down for just a couple seconds. it wasn't like his home run in june when the president calmed a tot at the white house.
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>> oh, yeah. that's it. >> you better give her back. >> could i get a picture? >> come on, baby. there you go. >> ah. >> clearly this president is a baby whisperer, but i think he needs a real challenge. >> i think at the top of our list, it's provided for the safety and security of the american people. >> making sure that these kids have a shot at the american dream. >> i've spent my whole life chasing the american dream. >> what confuses me when i see speaker boehner
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