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tell us, draw a picture. mr. president, throw a cap over that wall. well, this is the first weekend that buy my book "jack kennedy: elusive hero" is in bookstores and when you read it, you'll understand how great it was to have an historic hero in the white house. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. good evening, americans, welcome to "the ed show" tonight from new york. there have been 20 straight months of job growth in this country. but the right wing is still spinning the country's 9% unemployment rate as president obama's failure. they never quit. neither will we. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. the jobs report is good news for the country, bad news for republicans. >> the unemployment figures in this country are still way too high. unemployment at 9% is unacceptable. >> tonight, former labor secretary robert reich on jobs and sabotage.
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the herman cain saga is getting stranger. >> i am the koch brothers' brother in another mother. >> we'll talk campaign and sexual harassment where "ring of fire host" mike papantonio. in ohio republicans are trying to block the vote and in wisconsin, scott walker's cronies are sucker punching. breaking news. in "psycho talk," the muffin man can't get enough. >> we're not convinced. >> the bottom line is they don't care what they spend. >> tonight, a bill o'reilly breakfast shocker. good to you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. republican efforts to sabotage president obama hit a speed bump today. the october jobs numbers came out this morning. here's how it's being reported. >> 80,000. that is how many jobs the american economy added last month.
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it's still not enough to get the jobless rate below 9%. >> it was enough to nudge the unemployment rate down from 9.9.% to 9d% even. >> it's enough to bring the national jobless rate down to an even 9%. >> republicans are blaming him for a sharp slowdown in hiring last month though the overall jobless rate improved slightly dipping to 9%. >> lots of negativity out there. 9%. it's not a great number. no question about that. republicans love that number and vote that way. they actually wanted it to be 1 10%, 11% or 12%. there's a number out there they don't want you to see that's not being reported. that's 20. 20 straight months of private, may i emphasize, private sector job growth in america that the republicans have not helped the president with. over the last 20 months, the private seconder has added 2.8 million jobs. you see that in any of the
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reports? including 104,000 in the month of october. now, look, during the last 12 months of the bush administration, we know what happened. private sector, it tanked. president obama's stimulus package comes along. everybody was onboard for it, economists from both sides and both campaigns said, you have to do something. he did. he did the stimulus package. stood behind the automobile industry. gave them a loan which they are paying back. and basically drove the country out of the ditch. today, what's happening? pretty good numbers on wall street. don't you think? if you're a fat cat. i mean, you're looking at big business in this country that is sitting on $2 trillion of assets. and let's not forget the oil boys. the big five oil companies, they have made over $100 billion in the first three quarters of this year and they are headed for more record profits. by the way, that's you at the gas pump helping them out. here's the bottom line. state, local governments relied on the stimulus package to pay
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firefighters, to pay police officers, to pay teachers. now that money's dried up. it's gone. at 430,000 public sector employees have lost their job since february of 2010 and the republicans love it. here's the flowchart. it's real easy to see what team you want to be on. the red line is private sector job growth. the red line is jobs, government jobs that have been cut. the blue line, of course, is private sector jobs going in the correct direction. now, whose side do you want to be on? when you take a look at what's happening in ohio, this is all these republican governors who want to cut jobs. that's what they want to do. they want to get rid of the firefighters, want to get rid of police officers, wabnt to cut education. all the republicans who have been elected, that's where they want to do. they don't want to help president obama or the democrats do that. with all the obstruction that's taken place in this country, we
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have got private numbers. but the media is not reporting it. they didn't say the word 20 straight months of private sector job growth. all they talk about is, well, government's too big and we have to cut it. just think, if we would tax the top 1% in this country, what our job numbers would be. rising tide lifts all boats, right? on thursday, the republicans blocked a bill which would have created hundreds of thousands of construction jobs by taxing the top 2%. the president called them out in the g-20 summit today in france. >> the bill that they voted down yesterday, a component of the american jobs bill, essentially said, we can create hundreds of thousands of jobs rebuilding our infrastructure, making america more competitive and the entire program will be paid for by a tax not on millionaires but people making a million dollars or more a year, which in the
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united states is about 300, a little over 300,000 people. you know, what they've said is we prefer to protect 300,000 people, rather than put hundreds of thousands of people back to work and benefit 300 million americans who are hurting because of low growth. >> i can't help but think what the french media is thinking. holy smokes, are they tight over there across the ocean. they don't help you out at all, do they, barack? the president's absolutely right. less than 350,000 millionaires would have paid a tiny .7% to create american jobs. well, the republicans, when they hate the president, they're just not going to move. they hit him more than they care about the 99.8% of americans. here's the bottom line. outsourcing. the republicans have been against jobs staying in this country. they think it's all to the bottom line. what was the story this week?
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whirlpool. 5,000 jobs. republicans love it because it makes those numbers look really bad for president obama. let's not forget the 120,000 postal workers that are going to be cut because the righties in the lame duck session of the congress of 2006, they dropped a bombshell on the postal service telling them they had to prefund their health care and their retirement 75 years in advance in a ten-year window. let's not forget that. how about the radical governors of walker, kasich, christie, snyder and scott? you could do to all of those states and find that the public sector employees have been cut big time. the firefighters, the police officers and the teachers. and where have the tax cuts gone? to the top 1%. and, oh, by the way, i think those republican governors are just as guilty as the republicans in washington. whose side are you on? i ask this question often.
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how much more evidence do you need that the republicans undoubtedly have a playbook? they're playing it to a "t" and trying to sabotage the economy and have the media in their back pocket. if some investor were come to tell you, hey, i'll give you thousands of dollars, i'll guarantee you growth for 20 months, you think it's a good deal, you'd take that, wouldn't you? guaranteed, guaranteed growth for 20 straight months. you'd take that deal. well, we've had 20 straight months of private sector job growth this country. by this socialist president who doesn't understand business. if private business is growing, then how come all the regulations are -- why aren't the regulations just hammering the growth? you mean to tell me we're growing with all this regulation? there is no more regulation now than there was during the bush administration. that, too, is a story that's not being reported. in fact, there's less regulation
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now. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question. are republicans trying to sabotage the jobs numbers to hurt the president? text "a" for yes, "b" for no to 622639. blog, ed.msnbc.com. we turn to this man often on this program because he knows what he's talking about, robert require, former labor secretary during the clinton administration. currently a professor of public policy at uc berkeley and author of the book "aftershock." good to have you with us again tonight. >> good evening, ed. >> it's so clear what the republicans are doing. would you use the word sabotage? are the republicans sabotaging this economy? >> let me say very clearly and unequivocally, they are sabotaging the economy in a variety of ways, ed. number one, they are saying big corporations need huge tax cuts and they need less regulation in order to start hiring, but we
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know big corporations are sitting on $2 trillion of cash. they don't even know what to do with it. we also know the ratio of profits to wages is higher than it's been since before the great depression. of presidethe 1930s. corporations don't need more money. it's on the demand side. there are not enough customers to create 80,000 new jobs in october. if we had more work, more infrastructure, a bigger jobs program, if republicans went along with that jobs program, we'd have even more jobs. instead, they are slicing and dicing public sector jobs. we lost 24,000 of them in october and that means there are more people who are unemployed who don't have money, to turn around and buy things and keep other people employed. you see what the republicans want is basically a lousy economy come election day 2012 because they want to get rid of, as mitch mcconnell keeps reminding us, that's their number one goal. not jobs.
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getting rid of president obama. >> and many the midst of all of that, we have to ask the question, if the private sector unemployment had remained the same, in other words, if it had been steady, and we had not been gutting all these public sector jobs that are out there, we have to wonder what the unemployment rate would have been. of course, the republicans always talk about confidence. oh, they're not confident in the economy because these numbers are high. well, the public sector would have better numbers and maybe we'd have more confidence out there. what do you think the rate would be if we hadn't gone after the sector the way they have? >> 8.7% unemployment. that's bad, that's not a great rate, but it's not nearly as high as it's been, ed. the other thing they keep talking about the deficit. the deficit, the debt. but, you know, what they don't talk about is that the real goal is to bring down the debt as a percentage of the total economy. it's the ratio of debt to gdp. and if you don't get jobs back,
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if you don't have growth right now, that ratio gets worse and worse and worse. so their real goal, it seems to me, you can only read it this way, is to, as they've said before, starve the beast. that make it so difficult to finance government, all the public services we need, that we have got to lay more and more and more public servants off. >> you think the unemployment rate is going to go where in 2012 before the election? because the closer we get to the election, the more strident the republicans are going to be in their philosophy not to help this president. what do you think the rate will be going into the election? >> look it, i don't think it's going to be all that different from what it is right now. maybe 8.8%. maybe possibly 8.6%. what the republicans want to do is keep that rate as high as hobb possible because the history has shown best way to make sure a president is a one-term president is to have --
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>> do you think president obama can get re-elected on these numbers? >> i think it's going to be a close call. i think what he needs to do, and he's already doing it, i think they can do it even more forcefully, is make sure the public understands that the republicans with their just say no attitude, that's all they're doing, that's what they've been doing for two years now or what, what that does is makes it impossible to have an infrastructure program, a large enough jobs program, put people back to work. what it means is fewer and fewer public sector jobs and that means fewer and fewer people with the money to turn around and create private sector jobs. it's all part of a system, ed. and if you link the dots and you connect the dots, you see that republicans are out to sabotage this presidency and to undermine this economy. and they are doing it. >> and that pretty much says it all. robert reich, always a pleasure. good to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen and share your thoughts on twitter @edshow.
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we have a twitter announcement later in this program dealing with ohio. coming up, herman cain's accuser breaks her silence. what does it mean for the republican front-runner? mike papantonio will break it down legally for us and politically. with polls showing more than half of ohioans wants senate bill 5 repealed, republicans are trying to keep the voters away from the polls. more dirty tricks. [ female a] from the moment we arrive... we don't want anything to slow us down so it's surprising that most women aren't getting enough calcium. with over 25 flavors, yoplait original gives you 50% of the daily value of calcium in every cup. ♪ small talk, big thoughts, gonna tell them all ♪ [ male announcer ] the most headroom per dollar of any car in america. from $10,990. the all-new nissan versa sedan. innovation upsized. innovation for all. ♪ ♪ small talk, big thoughts, gonna tell them all ♪ [ male announcer ] the most legroom per dollar
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one of herman cain's accusers says she's not talking but there's more trouble for the cain campaign. a watch dog group has filed a complaint with the federal elections commission against his campaign over money it used. mike papantonio has the details. ohio republicans make a last-ditch effort to keep senate bill 5 on the books by shutting down early voting in the state. and a memo from the mitt romney campaign says the koch brothers are the financial engine of the tea party.
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one of the women accusing herman cain of sexual harassment broke her silence today speaking through her attorney. c cain's accuser stands by her complaint but he won't go public. >> he made a complaint in good faith about a series of inappropriate behaviors and unwanted advances from the ceo. those complaints were resolved in an agreement with her acceptance of a monetary settlement. she and her husband see no value in revisiting this matter now, nor in discussing the matter any
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further, publicly or privately. >> the woman left the national restaurant association in the late '90s and her attorney says herman cain knew about the allegations against him. the national restaurant association confirmed there was an agreement with the woman, but cain was not a party to it. and here's the kicker. the settlement was signed on september of 1999. 09/09/99. there's more trouble for cain. whether cain's campaign broke the law based on documents obtained by a wisconsin newspaper. the group is accusing the campaign of using a tax exempt group called prosperity usa to pay for campaign expenses. it gets worse. "the new york times" reports prosperity usa has financial ties to americans for prosperity.
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a group bankrolled by the koch brothers. process tsperity usa might owe money. you wouldn't get there's trouble in paradise by the look at herman cain's face today. earlier he spoke at america's prosperity event in washington. >> i'm proud to know the koch brothers. i'm very proud to know the koch brothers. i am the koch brothers' brother from another mother. yes. i'm their brother from another mother. >> he just throws out the red meat. joining me now is mike papantonio, host of "the ring of fire" radio show. mike, i tell you what, you got cain caught up in the koch brothers mess. now he's joking the kochs are family. does this prove how unserious he is as a candidate? or does it mean he is right in the thick of it all? what do you think? >> ed, he's just the latest
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purchase by the koch brothers. they purchased michele bachmann, purchased sarah palin for this purpose. it's to go out and talk crazy talk. it's to talk about taking more things away from the middle class and give it more to the rich. it's about deregulating virtually everything to where the koch brothers can go ahead and kill more people with their toxins. he is nothing more than a paid mouthpiece. you know what, ed, they don't really care if cain wins. all he is is a vehicle for them. just like sarah palin was a vehicle and michele bachmann. they knew those people would say anything they wanted for the right amount of money. and so, so when you look at him and you listen to his crazy talk, understand the koch brothers don't believe he can win. they know he can't win. just think of the yardage they get out of buying him for 12 months. they bought a human being for 12 months to talk their crazy talk. there's a big value. he doesn't even know he's been purchased, ed. he really thinks that they take him seriously.
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sarah palin didn't know she was purchased. michele bachmann didn't know millionaires had purchased her to say her crazy things out on the bully pulpit. that's what happened. he's nothing more than bought and paid for. and he doesn't seem to have any shame about it. >> all right. what about the campaign? what are the implications here for the campaign regarding this campaign finance complaint? i mean, you know, you follow the money. and the connection here, there's a couple of non-profits in wisconsin that herman cain's campaign manager has been the head of. you follow the money trail from the kochs. it circles right back. how serious is this? >> it could be very serious. ed, every time you hear the camp talk about it, their camp talks about it like if we did anything, it's nothing more than a campaign violation. these campaign violations have put a lot of people in prison because what they end up being, ed, is tax evasion. when you put an intent -- when you put the intent card into what happened here, that's to
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have a tax free organization that intentionally took money and took all the benefits of the tax free status, and nevertheless used it, knowing they were using it for what it wasn't supposed to be used for. people go to jail for that, ed. he may be smiling and acting like it's no problem and the people who bought him, the koch brothers, they don't have to worry because they have enough money to get out of something like this. the people that go down are people like mark block and herman cain. so this is a bad situation for him. he can smile all day long. this is about more than campaign finance. >> all right. let's talk about the sexual harassment issue. cain's accuser is not going to speak, speaking through her attorney today. is this the end of it? did he dodge a political bullet? you look at his poll numbers and fund-raising. he's right in the thick of it. >> ed, last week when i made the statement, what i was talking about is this.
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the bigger story here is the willingness of the tea party and the republicans to embrace and completely embrace a creepy, maladjusted old man who terrorizes women. the point is, the only thing i can figure out about this whole thing as the dynamics play out, for so long they have been this party that almost embraces these sex perversion stories. i mean, that's become their brand. you almost wonder, you know, it's the john ensign, the david vitter, mark foley. for every elliot spitzer and anthony weiner story, there have been a dozen stories like mark foley and larry craig. at some point you become numb and dumb to the idea you are now the branded party of the widely, the wildly over-sexed odd balls. that's what happened. that's the most troubling thing about the story, the republicans continue to embrace this man as if he hasn't done anything wrong. he caused these two women to lose their job. they hod to stop what they were
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doing in their career just to protect this nut. and so, but nevertheless, you still have republicans embracing him as if, yeah, he's one of us. and if he's one of them, i got to tell you something, that's a mighty scary brand for the republican party. >> mike papantonio, always a pleasure. good to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. coming up, bill o'reilly is still harping on the debunk story about the $16 muffin. it turns out $16 is actually cheap for an o'reilly breakfast. "psycho talk" is next. later, a petition to recall wisconsin governor scott walker has been filed, but democrats are calling it a dirty ploy by the republicans. john nichols will explain.
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and in "psycho talk" tonight, bill o'reilly can't let go of his passion for baked goods. he doubling down on the story of the department of justice paying $16 per muffin at a 2009 conference, even though it has been completely debunked. bloomberg business week reported, the actual price was $14.29 per person, per day, and included breakfast and rental fees for the workshop space and conference rooms. a lot thrown in for that price. furthermore, the department of justice retracted its original $16 muffin report. everyone has admitted the story was wrong, except, of course, the muffin man. >> the inspector general for the
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justice department released a report saying the america taxpayer picked up the tab for $16 muffins. the left said there was juice, coffee and fruit included with the $16 muffin. the doj latched on to that and retracted the muffin scandal, but we are not convinced. >> as always, o'reilly ignores the facts and blames the left, but the muffin man didn't stop there. >> we are not convinced, so we sent "factor" producer out to find the real story. >> can i get a coffee, tea, juice, muffin and fruit? >> just $6. >> thank you. $6? >> yes. >> there's some investigative reporting there. o'reilly is comparing the cost of a continental breakfast at the hilton hotel to a meal you get from a truck on the side of the road? $16 for breakfast is actually dirt cheap in bill o'reilly's world. for example, o'reilly is speaking at an event in florida coming up in january. you can eat breakfast with him
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before the speech. but the breakfast will cost you $129. you can eat eight of o'reilly's fictional $16 muffins for that price. bill, you got to stop this muffin-gate obsession. it's become overbaked "psycho talk." governor kasich union busting bill is in peril. and now suddenly ohio's secretary state stops early voting. john nichols joins me with the latest. mitt romney wants koch. david koch. we'll show you how romney is try to win over the tea party by courting one of the biggest backers. an accident doesn't have to slow you down. with better car replacement, available only with liberty mutual auto insurance,
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county boards of election to shut down early voting, in-person voting today. there will be no early voting saturday, sunday or monday. now, think about that. early voting in america, i mean, it's one of the great traditions. democracy, family of speech, go out there, get involved. no early voting on monday, i mean, you have to vote on tuesday. early voting, you know who it favors? opponents of senate bill 5 of the secretary of state's decision is based on an ohio house bill intended to squelch early voting. it's the first time the radical law is being played out. look, it's a return to the dark ages. people in ohio don't want this. it's a dirty trick. a dirty trick that is aimed at reducing the impact of rank and file voters. at a rally in toledo, ohio, today, reverend jesse jackson urged voters to occupy thedowntown voter registration center. churches were urged to get those
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to voting places before they close at 6:00 p.m. tonight. the voter suppression is a republican ploy, why republicans make up stories about a.c.o.r.n. and voter fraud like john kasich did in 2008 when he was a fox news analyst. >> the problem we have, the secretary of state supposed to be in charge of honest elections will not help the local county boards of elections to be able to figure out who's legitimate and who's not. >> that's it in a nutshell. legitimacy, i doubt it. republicans have used bogus claims of voter fraud to get to what they really want. voter suppression. it's doubly important to governor john kasich since his poll numbers are tanking, sif sinking big-time with the union busting law, senate bill 5. supporters are head by a 25-point margin. i'm biting my tongue reporting that tonight. you can't take it for granted, folks. you have to do what you have to do. governor case kasich's ratings continue to drop.
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republicans are trying to tie issue 2 to president obama. a new mailer says, this november, stop their momentum before it begins. this is why we're going to ohio. it's the country. it's collective bargaining. it's the middle class. all focus, all eyes on hohio. we'll be there on monday and tuesday. joining me, chairman of the ohio democratic pa iic party and joh nichols of "the nation" magazine. chris, how do you fight back when early voting gets shut down like this? what's the recourse? >> you work harder than your opponent. we realize this election is not about whether or not the secretary of state is going to close the polls on saturday or sunday but whether or not we're going to work harder than they are. in this case, the polls are speaking loudd dly but on tuesd the people will speak loudly. this has never been about republican versus democrat but
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those of us who care deeply about the middle class and the fundamental right for firefighters, police officers, teachers and custodians to speak about open transparent meetings. on tuesday, john kasich -- i'm sorry, excuse me, ed. >> how much is this going to hurt the vote for repeal? >> you have to realize we have 35 days in early vote so we build a program that included the final three days. we've worked very hard knowing that the rules would change, that the rug would be pulled out from underneath us. so we've spent the better bart of october getting our people to the polls and we have the largest off year get out the vote effort in the country about to commence starting on tuesday morning getting people to the polls. i'm confident that on tuesday night when you're going to join us in columbus, ed, we're going to have good news for the middle class here in ohio. >> i hope so. john, what about the sound bite we played from 2008, john
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kasich, he tries to throw it off as voter fraud, that people are yanking people to the polls that shouldn't be there in the first place. what do you think of it? >> voter fraud, discussed by people like john kasich is the biggest law in american politics. there's actually very little voter fraud and most of what people consider voter fraud could be dealt with easily if we had very open, very easy access to the polls. most times when something is called voter fraud, it's usually a mistake by somebody trying to get through a convoluted process. that's really what's going on in ohio now. the secretary of state is trying to confuse things in the final minutes of this election process. and that's a very unsettling thing. because it's happened in ohio before. we had a lot of problems in 2004 in the george bush versus john kerry race. ohio's secretary of state seemed to game the process from several different angles. >> it seems this law that's now
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in effect is all about discouraging people to vote, which obviously can become habit forming and the next thing you know, we have 2012 and it's their effort to suppress the vote and just, you know, purchase as many people as you can getting to the polls on the republican side. out-advertise big time, get your base out there and beat those that may be the novice news people out there that really normally don't get too motivated. if you shut down the early voting forum, what does that do for 2012 and the presidential? >> well, this is a very big deal because remember, this is a republican secretary of state and here we have what looks an awfully lot like a coordinated attempt to deny people access to the polls. if they get away with it this fall, you can presume that they will do so again next year. and remember that republican tie groups, supposedly independent groups, like americans for prosperity, have been on the ground woing in ohio for months
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coordinate their turnout as well. when you have the secretary of state in your pocket, it makes it seieasier to game the system. >> chris, this has been playing for some time. there were three bills in ohio that dealt with voter suppression. one in the house, one in the senate, which were very damaging to the process. and how much of an effect do you think this is going to have on turnout? what kind of turnout do you think you're going to have on tuesday? >> real quick, we have a referendum process in ohio, and as you know, ed, we have house bill 194 that contained the egregious sections you referred to. that's going to be on the ballot next year and we're going to repeal that law like we're about on senate bill 5. we've seen the kind of organic response across the entire state, just tonight, here in vermilion on the shores of lake erie. 50 teachers showed up to hold up
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signs to remind voters to vote on tuesday and push back. >> i've been told by sources, people i talked to in ohio when the firefighters, the teachers, the police officers are going door to door, they ask people, do you know what senate bill 5 is? a lot of people don't. what they do know is the credibility and integrity of the people coming to their door. the teachers -- is that pretty much accurate? >> you know, ed, when a firefighters shows up at your house, it's usually on fire. when a firefighter shows up today in ohio, knocking on a door with a piece of information about what senate bill 5 would do, if it's enacted, voters are responding. voters like your neighborhood -- folks who are just democrats or republicans, but folks in main street ohio who are responding to the pleas of those who we call to help. firefighters, police officers, now they're under attack. as you know, ed, they're under attack. it's time that we respond and stand up for these heroes of main street. >> chris redfern, john nichols,
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great to have both of you with us. we'll see you in ohio next week. "the ed show" is launching an effort to cover all events on issue 2 through this weekend and through the vote on tuesday night. #edshowissue2 on twitter to consolidate all information as it develops and make sure the word is getting out. this includes evidence of polling problems, wait times. we'd love to hear how it's going in your district and neighborhood. starting monday night, we'll be putting live treweets on the crl at the bottom of the screen. you can also follow us on twitter @edshow, facebook and our website. when we come back, the latest twist in the effort to recall governor scott walker of wisconsin. more dirty stuff happening.
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unseat the governor. and later, gop candidates clamber for support from the koch brothers. filmmaker robert greenwald joins me on that. for our dear friend, lizzy. surprise! surprise! surprise! surprise! [ woman ] happy birthday! [ male announcer ] some parties need a bowl of queso. made from creamy velveeta and zesty rotel tomatoes and green chiles. it makes any get-together better. [ kid ] dad? who is honus...wagner? no idea. let me see that. that's a honus wagner autograph... the hall of famer? look at this ball! yeah, found that at a yard sale. i thought pickles would like it. [ dog barks ] that a new car jerry? yeah... sweet, man. [ male announcer ] the audi a8. named best large luxury sedan.
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and in the "playbook" tonight, a recall of governor scott walker, wisconsin, has been filed by pro walker elements to undermine the recall efforts by democrats. only in wisconsin. democrats say it's a dirty republican ploy. the real recall effort against governor scott walker is september for november 15th, but today a petition was filed under the name, close friends to recall walker. brandt is reportedly a smalltime donor to walker's 2010 campaign. the chairman of the wisconsin democratic party said "while we certainly understand that thousands of wisconsinites can't wait to recall scott walker we find it convenient days before walker goes on a koch-fueled trip to arizona, kansas and california, recall papers are filed by a donor to scott walker that will allow walker to bag
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all sleazy campaign cash he can get his hands on." with us again tonight, washington correspondent to the nation. only in wisconsin. i mean, what's going on here, john? >> well, wisconsin has a law, ed, that says that a target of a recall can, from the filing of the recall, raise unlimited amounts of money. and so all of the campaign contribution limits and controls are off for the target of a recall. what that means is that when governor walker flies out to hang out with the koch brothers, if they want to write him a $1 million check, they can. that's really what this is about. it triggers governor walker's fund-raising, allows him to start putting money in the bank for legal challenges to the recall, as well as what i expect will be a major advertising campaign during the petition-gathering process to discourage people from signing.
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>> so once again, the republicans trying to cut you off at the pass. they've done a lot of stuff with voter i.d. in the state of wisconsin. they've also made it tougher as far as the petitions being signed, having to be notarized and whatnot and now they have this, i guess, stooge, david brandt, sorry, political stooge, is reportly a smalltime donor to walker's 2010 campaign. obviously an operative to set the table so walker could go get his money. how much money do you think will flow into the state? >> ed, they're talking in the range of $70 million to $80 million. this could well be the most expensive gubernatorial re-election race, even though it's a recall, that we've seen for any candidate who isn't self-funding. obviously you take out the meg whit nmans and jon corzines. walker will take in unbelievable amounts of kasich in ohio, tha
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survival politically is a very, very high priority for national, corporate and conservative groups. >> what does it say about scott walker in his future in the republican party, maybe on a bigger platform that that kind of money would pour into the state of wisconsin to save his gubernatorial seat? >> it's not just about scott walker. obviously he might have a future. he's pretty damaged goods. you don't see many of the conditions around the country, running for legislative or gubernatorial elections this fall inviting scott walker in. the big thing is he has been their pointman on their assault on organized labor and really can't afford to see him go down. if he does, other republican governors are going to be scared to step up and do the anti-labor things he has done. >> great point, john nichols, always a pleasure. see you in ohio, my friend. an internal campaign memo shows mitt romney linking the koch brothers to the tea party.
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i am the koch brothers' brother from another mother. yes. i'm their brother from another mother. >> herman cain made a big deal about supporting the koch brothers, but mitt romney is taking a more serious approach. today, romney skipped an important campaign stop in iowa to give a speech at the americans for prosperity conference in washington. americans for prosperity is funded by billionaire david koch. this week, the conservative "washington examiner" newspaper reported on the romney strategy to get tea party support by courting david koch. october 4th, internal romney campaign memo obtained by "the washington examiner" describes koch as the financial engine of the tea party though koch denies being involved.
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mitt romney is directly tieing the koch brothers to the tea party. somebody at fox news isn't going to be happy about that. >> can you prove the koch brothers are tied in to the tea party financially? can you? i want to remind you not to make statements you can't back up on this network. >> we expect to see mitt romney on bill o'reilly's list of pinheads very soon. romney knows tea party support is important to him. just two months ago the koch-funded tea party group, freedom works, was protesting a romney campaign event. >> that's the elephant in the room when it comes to the governor's record. he has not been consistently pro market, pro limited government, against government overreach. that's what we're concerned about. >> the ultimate prize for romney is an endorsement by david koch. if koch is on his side, the tea party might get onboard. let's bring in robert greenwald, brave new films. great to have you with us to.
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>> thanks, ed. >> how important is koch brothers endorsement for any republican candidate? >> it's critically important. we have this disgusting situation, ed, where hundreds of millions of dollars are going to flow from the koch brothers in an effort to buy the election, buy democracy, to try to convince people to buy their right wing philosophy. romney, like all the others is out there with his tin cup, hat in hand saying, please, put your $100 million in my cup. >> who is more likely to win koch brothers' support, herman cain or mitt romney in your opinion? >> well, i think it's an interesting question, because of course, romney is the, quote, practical choice. herman cain, we saw the response he got today, has all kinds of enthusiasm. look, the thing about the koch brothers, they're going to spend their hundreds of millions of dollars across many candidates, across many issues, think tanks, americans for prosperity. they're smart enough, ed, to know don't just fund one
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candidate. fund the issue, fund the pundits, and spread that money around. you know, in business, there's this term roi, return on investment. so they put a couple hundred million in, but they get billions of dollars back in the breaks that come to them, their companies and their ability to make more and more profit. >> your organization and others have launched a new campaign called who are the 1%? what's the goal of this campaign? >> well, we've been inspired by our friends and colleagues at occupy. and we decided that what we wanted to help do was talk about and really show people who are the 1%. now, the 1% are those who are using their money, they're using their power to step on the back of the oather 99%, to hold the 99% down. so we've started with our many good friends at nation and tom hartman to ask people to suggest who they are. is it the waltons, is it the
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kochs, is it murdoch? there's a pretty long list of millionaires and billionaires who are the 1%. we want people to understand what they're doing, how they're doing it and the reason our economic crisis today is not an accident. >> yeah. well, the facts are about the 1%, the average wealth of the 1% is 225 times bigger than average household in america. ceos make almost 200 times as much as regular employees. ceos at the top 500 companies receive an average of $11 million in 2010, half of americans earn less than $26,000 in 2010. so it's going to be very interesting to see how this works for you. i imagine the koch brothers are the best example you can find, but there are a lot of people in the media that are movers and shakers that will end up on your list. great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. that's "the ed show." listen to me on sirius xm radio channel 127 monday through friday noon to
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