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we're going to get them, baby in that rick santorum's predictions the national championship game. what have you learned. and all the things i have been >> i learned there were 14 talking threat to the million people unemployed president, a threat to the because this nation is security of this country is incredibly productive. >> what have you learned mika. coming to bear. >> let israel bomb a nuclear >> a national bank transfer day facility in iran or would you for all of those that took part. have the u.s. do it instead? >> if iran was one country away >> she makes me so tired time. from us on our southern border and said repeatedly that they you mow, willie, sitting next to wanted to wipe the united states off the face of the map and were mika today reminds me of that developing a nuclear weapon, would any president let them do great line. it? we must truly love those we of course not. and israel would be crazy not to don't truly understand. stop them from developing this so, anyway, "morning joe." nuclear weapon, given the fact that iran has been running holocaust denying programs in a week since the sexual basically saying the very harassment accusations against existence of the state of israel herman cain consumed his is unfounded. there was no holocaust. >> you would support -- campaign he seems to be holding >> we should destroy them. up. >> you would support -- what is will cain be able to weather your preference, if military action is the -- is the decision this. one year out until election 2012 that's made, do you want israel and we're unvailing our new nbc doing it or would a president battleground map. santorum have the united states
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showing what's shaping up to be doing it? >> the president of the united a very fight race. states should stand shoulder to shoulder with israel and we wait until you see how much has should stand by them every way changed before our last map possible. we would have to. we need to support israel and n. before the summer took its toll making sure that if this report on the man in the white house. comes out that iran is, in fact, and the new site that plans close and israel and the united to debunk all political states collaborate together in advertising and call out all the decide that this is the only way that this program can be stopped, then the united states campaign ads in a humorous way. must stand with with israel in a monday, november 7, 2011. military strike. >> all right. i'm chuck todd. senator rick santorum, going to a big monday show ahead leave it there. hope to have you back where we including our live interview can have a visual. i knee you tweeted a photo of where you were in the studio. >> give the officials if we can for you guys. with republican candidate rick >> it is not you. it is us. senator, thanks for coming on this morning. >> thanks, guys. trivia time. we asked what was ronald reagan santorum. tomorrow today, this morning it is the new nbc news battleground doing when president carter called to concede the 1980 map. the bottom line, the election? presidential contest is shaping the answer, reagan was taking a shower. we'll be right back. up to be very competitive and uh, i'm in a timeout because apparently potentially very close. 2004 meets 2000 but with the 2008 states. the toll this summer has taken
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tonight president. since we rolled out the last u.s. battleground map in april, five states have shifted towards the republicans including vane ya and michigan. altogether the election will likely come down to these 11 toss up states. they fall roughly into three regions. the midwest, the new south and the west. so take a look at them here. you've got your pennsylvania, ohio, michigan, wisconsin, iowa. then nevada, colorado, midwest. remember, ultimately the presidential contest is a game of match. in the race, democrats have lost ground sense prince april. republicans have 195 and 147 electoral votes considered a toss up. in april it was 232 electoral riding the dog like it's a small horse is frowned upon in this establishment! votes in some shade of blue. luckily though, ya know,
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the president to feepd the 74 i conceal this bad boy underneath my blanket just so i can get on e-trade electoral votes is as follows. and check my investment portfolio, florida, ohio, pennsylvania, research stocks, and set conditional orders. colorado gets him to 272. now, what's the quickest way for wait, why are you taking... oh, i see. him to get there without florida hey max, would it kill you to throw a guy a warning bark? and ohio. [ dog barks ] he would have to win iowa, you know i wanted a bird. [ male announcer ] e-trade. michigan, north carolina, investing unleashed. virginia, iowa and new mexico. that's whole point, to have different pads to 270 that would avoid them having to camp out in florida or ohio. it's been just over a week since the allegations of sexual harassment against herman cain surfaced. while the candidate has made no progress ending the controversy with the media, there is not a lot of evidence that it's hur his campaign. cain eluded the story during i guess a friendly douglas debeat. stood with fell ow candidate
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sunday night. >> what's been the whole surprise to you in this experience? >> running for president? >> the nitpickiness of the media. >> guess he's had a tough week. he lost his patience when a traveling press corps tried to ask him a question. >> mr. cain, the attorney for one of the women who filed a sexual harassment complaint -- >> don't even go there? >> can i ask my question? >> no. >> please send him the journalistic code of ethics. i was going to do something my staff told me not to do and respond. what i'm saying is this, we are getting back on message. end of story. back on message. read all of the other accounts. read all of the other accounts. everything has been answered. end story. >> been awhile since we heard 9-9-9 isn't it. none of the women that have
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accuse him have gone public. i'm going to bring back the without an agreed party disputing his version of events panel very quickly. michael steel, straight up cain has avoided the he question, you've had to sit through me and that interview shade/she said situation. with rick santorum on the phone. so while wildly criticized, why isn't he catching on? cain's response strategy seems >> that's the santorum we don't to be working for now. see all the time. >> i just don't see anonymous relaxed, not angry. >> usually angry. >> comes off a little angry. >> forget you're a democratic strategist. but as a republican you would source sources as fair against a think he touches all the notes you're supposed to touch? >> this is a sound bite primary. candidate. i think if someone has a real people are running on don concern they should come out and say it. >> response has been phrases that sound good, 9-9-9. it doesn't matter what the plan does. santorum is running an inside unconvention washington campaign. it's unfortunate because a lot unconventional. i think what you're not seeing yet is as much damage as you of the plans the other candidates are running with, would expect in other years and other campaigns. whether it's 9-9-9, flat tax, >> a few things to think about. those are plans that are exactly one is cain's base of support is to the 1%. those are plans that are going among tea party republicans. to hurt them. these are not part of the there will a noose around the neck in general. establishment. and they certainly dope like the >> his plan sort of a little media. so you combine both things here. more based on reality of what
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the establishment and the media might pass congress it. >> adds up and might pass is almost like sticking it to congress. his problem, i hate to say it, both. they are sticking by herman he's a reality based in a cain. anybody else getting flashbacks to bill clinton. candidate where candidates like cain who are likable to get more pop. it eventually made him stronger. >> and losing, i think, having that tag of you just didn't lose now, with herman cain under fire re-election, you lost by 18 will another candidate be able points. it's something -- >> in a swing state. to break through the coverage >> a swing state. he wants to make the swing state and catch on as an alternative argument but it's -- >> that was a tough year for a to mitt romney who returns to lot of republicans sglts. >> quickly, shameless plugs. iowaed to for just his fourth trip. could it be newt. >> 59 points, the only bright he said ultimately cain's fate spot. >> cincinnati bengals and is up to the voters. antidalton, redhead. >> how about that? >> if they conclude that >> i'll plug he'd heads, too, but lsu. they won a big football game. anonymous allegations the i'm giving a talk there on wednesday on presidential journalism. >> politics. american people could well and gumbo. decide they want the that's it. tonight on the nbc nightly news, solution-oriented leader more than they want a scandal. i went through two months where the new poll. state of american, we need to folks in washington said my hear respondents from american
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flak check.org is seeking to answer that very question. they are trying to do it with humor. i recently smoke to the public policy center, the brains behind the new site about what she's trying to accomplish. >> dr. jameson joins me now. you have been a pioneer in this, the whole idea of being some truthiness, not just to political reporting but also to the political messages on the campaign side. that's what you're trying to do now with flack check. walk me through it. >> when a deceptive ad comes up and fact check grabs it and stars fact checking we're going to move it into a production process to create video parodies of the deceptive point and try to increase the likelihood as a result that people are able to see the deception but in a visual take down not just verbal. >> this is different. a lot of ad watchers in the
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past. the person that has encouraged people to do the ad watch boxes. but always went into the specific facts and got into the policy. you actually want to get into almost the visual deception a bit. >> we want to be able to focus the viewer on the techniques that are being used to advance. when they see it in other ads they will recognize it as well but try to create a penalty for those ads. we're going to try to do it in a way that is humorous to increase the likelihood that we reach audiences that might not be inclined to read a fact check. >> well you have multiple clips. the one fun is how easily that could have been imagined if a len c lincoln had to deal with the treks of the trade. >> lincoln believes america will perish and that our soldiers have died in vain. >> died in vain.
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>> honestly, abe, "died in vain". abraham lincoln, wrong for the war, wrong for the union. >> this is a way to draw folks in to what you're trying to do. if you did an ad watch, on the policy front you might not even understand what the -- >> well you might know sis we've taken it out of his own words. we've led you to believe he said what he never actually said but it sure looks like he did, doesn't it? we're going to air those every week. one new attack on abraham lincoln starting january 1 coming to a television near you. >> but also you guys want to do something and i thought this was interesting. you brought another example of this. attack ad on harry reed, that very nasty senate race about how
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you'll create a product to walk folks through the deception. let's show an example and then you can walk me through. >> want to know how out of touch harry reid. he actually paid for a child ad for convicted child molesters and sex offenders. what else do you need to ne about harry reid. >> connection. harry reid tabled all amendments including one banning viagra for sex offenders. >> you were actually going to produce an ad with it to try to explain where did they get that viagra stat, not just asking it written down where you or i tells them he got it from s bill da, da, da. >> we're trying to take the complexities understood by people who watch your program but not understood by most and
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digest it down for folks who don't pay attention to the legislative process. and that large harry reid head and that scary sound in the background. in the end our young woman actually has a headache in all that noise they have been offering her in that ad. >> you have two goals. one is you're hoping to get the ad makers to get geuilted into being more honest. >> yes. >> and you are taking us on demon sheet. we thought it was humorous but it were concerned that while we may have understood the humor, it may have been a little bit deceiving. here is what we kept explaining on demon sheet. explain how we could have done it better. >> a wolf in sheep's clothing. the man who literally helped put the state of california on the path of bankruptcy and higher taxes. fiscal conservative or just
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another same old tale of tax and spin authored by a career politician who helped guide us into this fiscal mess in the first place. >> if we see one of these funny web ads how should we have handled it from the beginning before we played the ad? >> the popes of the ad that you put on screen weren't manager a -- magnifying deception. the ad is full of all the negative things about him but doesn't quote a part of the report that shows the positive things he does. when you put that up you're making the case that he is what she says he is. >> even though you say that is kind of weird, kind of mocking. that's what you're concerned, these visuals get out there anyway. >> you're mocking the funny dee minnesota sheet with the red
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eyes but not showing they took it out of context. >> all right. the site is flack check.org. i like it. i think me ear going to be seeing you a lot to try to bring some sanity to campaign messaging. thanks very much. congr congratulatio congratulations. the next act for the greek drama is playing out. italy's government might fall next, too. the market run down is coming up. plus, presidential candidate rick santorum joins me. the first traif ya question. what was ronald reagan doing when president carter called to conseed the election. the answer and more is coming up on the daily run down. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] what if we told you that cadillac
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wall street. the market run down. we're joined by cnbc's brian shackman. how is the market handling italy's news? >> we've improved throughout the morning, chuck. since you brought up italy. berlusconi said he wasn't stepping down. there is a lot of pressure for berlusconi to step down. he's facing a 50/50 confidence vote. pretty unbelievable. greece is getting a new coalition government but they don't have a prime minister yet. they have to do that before they can get the next chunk of money to keep that government agloat. people have turned their attention to italy. 10-year bond is record high. basically means it is so
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expensive for their government to borrow money which the whole point of all this was to keep their borrowing cost down. that hasn't succeed. stock prices were down. as we head to opening it was actually back to slightly positive. the s & p is back. >> there was a time italy changed governments weekly. "the daily rundown" will be back in 30 seconds.
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headlines. iran is reportedly closer than ever to having the ability to build nuclear weapons. nuclear experts tell wash post that the islamic republic has mastered it with the help of a former soviet scientist. iran is dismissing the report. the iaea is due out later this week. two formal officials at penn state will be in court today on charges of lying to investigators about an alleged child abuse carried out by a colleague. the school's former defensive coordinator is accused of sexually abusing eight boys over a 15 year period. prosecutors say the two other administrators were told about the incidence but failed to report it. they have now both resigned overnight. another two days before power returns to thousands of homes in connecticut. families are still in the dark nine days after a strong storm hit the region. remember that october snow fall.
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the state's largest power utility is apologizing. we're having a little bit of a satellite issue with rick santorum. want to explain what's going on. total transparency here in the world of television. not mr. santorum's fault. it is our satellite. herman cain says he plans to stay on message. he talked about one person we haven't seen since the story broke, his wife gloria. >> my wife obviously, like most spouses, actually took it harder than i did because she knew about this. she knew it was from 1999. it's like i'm in a boxing match everyday throwing punches back. well, when you have to turn on the tv and watch all of the exaggerations and innuendos about your husband that you know high pressure done anything
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wrong it can have an emotional toll but she's doing fine now. >> by the way, that was fox's music choice there. josh green is a senior national correspondent for bloomberg business week. general sake is now vice president of the global strategy group and msnbc analyst michael steel is the chairman of the republican party. josh, you spent a lot of time with herman cain a few months ago. is this a money making adventure. it was sort of the thesis of your campaign. different herman cain now. what did you learn traveling around with the cain campaign? >> strange. different than any other kind of campaign. cain shoots from the hip. he is a fun guy to talk to. he is a fun guy to report on before all the scandal stuff broke. he was having more fun than anybody else. now after these revelations of alleged sexual harassment he has tried to put it behind him.
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early on he said i'm going to put this behind me and then we heard last week nothing but sexual harassment and cain. >> three numbers i haven't heard in awhile. >> 9-9-9. >> michael steel, explain why he hasn't fallen out of the polls. he has not gained anymore. this isn't right now hurting him among his supporters. >> joe and i got into this last week. i think it goes to the core of what you see with the base. they support him. they like him. they feel he's under attack. they are rallying around him. this is a 12-year-old allegation. no one is coming out visually so you don't have a face to put on the allegation. a lot of his supporters see this as something coming from the left and the media or coming from the democrats. so they want to support their guy. they like him because they connect to him. they connect to him because he sounds like them. he's talking their language.
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as long as he's doing that this other stuff is less important. hen he says i want to get back to my message and talk about 9-9-9, you have a lot of head nodding from folks that say we want to know more. that's helping him new. >> so as a democrat and knowing how the white house on rates it has been my understanding that they have been frustrated that everything has gotten attention except mitt romney's record. this is another week where you don't have any help from republicans. >> i think the fact that herman cain still cons to lead in the polls and really stay in some polls says more about the republican in the race than it does about herman cain. he was recently in a washington post poll that came out over the weekend or on friday. herman cain was ahead of mitt romney on empathy. that means that republican voters aren't sure about him. they don't trust him. they don't know where he is on issues and certainly that's frustrating because herman cain isn't running a serious race for
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president. he isn't competing. he isn't really competing on the issues. >> but michael steele is mitt romney? the two people who have spent the least amount of time. the guy that has spept the most is rick santorum. he's at the end of the polls doing it the old way, the way you're supposed to supposedly do iowa. >> mitt is strong in iowa because he's organized, awesome on the ground. he's got some holdover from the last campaign. cain is strong in iowa because of everything we just talked about. >> josh green, you get out there and talk to some of these voters, why aren't they responding to romney yet? >> it is the same old things. he does have a segment pretty firm in polls. he got 25-26% of the vote in the caucuses in '08. he's at about 25% now.
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doesn't seem to be able to break beyond that. for some people because of health care. for some, because of his religion. others just don't trust him as a conservative. >> i want to play a sound bite from ron paul because he was asked a question which has been floating out there which is this idea he may not support the republican nominee and may actually go the next step. >> can you state flatly that you will support the republican nominee in the off chance that it isn't ron paul? >> probably not unless i get to talk to and final out what they really believe in. if they believe in expanding the wars. if they don't believe in looking at the federal reserve i would be reluctant to jump on board and tell all the supporters that have given me trust and money and say all we have done is for not. >> he has this segment of
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disinfected voters that are are just fed up with the system. they just -- ron paul's rhetoric resonates here. he's run third party before. it felt like i'm not going to do it because i'm tired. didn't feel like i'm not going to do it because i don't have a message. >> that's something i can keep an eye on for him. ron paul has stated he is in this thing all the way. what does that mean? well he's going to be on the ballot some time next fall. i wouldn't could want him out. >> how concernd is the white house? i have heard people say third party candidate would be great. i have heard others say that could actually i faekt more. >> ron paul has a following. he has people who like him. he has taken away from the republicans running for president which says something about the field. i think if he is somebody that decides to run all the way through that's something that could potentially be helpful.
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really depends who it is. >> could this be one of those years where four or five or six candidates that are semiknown try to run? >> this is such a strange cycle, anything can happen. >> we know tlar lot of entities out there that are trying to make it easier to get on the ballot. >> yosjosh, jen, we'll keep you around because i have to get your shameless plugs if nothing else. we'll be back with rick santorum. moderating a republican presidential debate focusing on the economy live from oakland university in rochester michigan. all suburbs of detroit, folks. first, the white house soup of the day in honor of the greek debt crisis it's greek lentil stew. quite the stew taking place in
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feemd. rick santorum joining me now from florida. senator, this is not your fault, our fault. sat lieellite truck issues. thank you for doing this by phone. >> caller: this is better for me. >> you an me both my friend. >> you have done this the old fashioned way where the play book of iowa has been you have to go to every single community. can't just sit in the zone of des moines and think you can win the caucus there is. it is not yet translating in polls. what's your assessment as to why that is. >> we're making phone calls and as you mentioned i'm visiting all 99 counties. what i hear from voters all over the place is you're on my list. we are still trying to make that decision. our phone calls, we're finding that there are about 75% of people in iowa who are not
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decided. we believe our cam pane was always designed to focus on grass roots and build sort of the field of dreams candidate. if you build it, they will come. we are very, very confident we're going to do exceptionally well in iowa. that strategy to go out there and see people will pay off. >> senator, you have been somewhat critical of herman cain and these allegations this way. you have said hey, i have been vetted with -- basically saying this guy hadn't. there aren't going to be any surprises. explain why you put it in those terms. >> campaign i have been out there running saying experience matters. i know there are a lot of folks who said there are a lot of folks new and different an outside of washington. we elected the last president who was outside of washington with very little experience.
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hasn't worked out very well in the eyes of most republicans and most americans. i made the point that i'm someone with a lot of experience who has experience on national security, has experience on moral culture and leading in those areas and welfare reform. that's really the contrast i have been making and that goes through with someone who has been through a tough political campaign. i have been through three statewide elections in a state with 13 and a half million people and was really in a national race in many respects as a leader of the republican leadership. i am someone who has been tested and has stood as everyone will recognize stood by my conservative principles throughout. >> let me ask you this. you have the title senator. congressional approval rating is at 9%. >> caller: could you stop saying that. >> i understand that. what it is i was coming up with this. since you got elected in 94 to
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the u.s. senate, you were in the house before that. republicans have been in charge of some aspect of government all but for two years. either the house, senate or the presidency. do you think that has been your stumbling block that people look at you and say you know what, you've been in wash. we don't want a washington guy? >> same thing that happened with newt gingrich. i would say look at the record. that's what i keep telling everybody. okay fine. look at the fact that i was in a gang of seven and was really the reason under the 1994 congressional change that threw the democrats out after 40 years. with all due respect to newt it really wasn't the contract to america it was boehner and santorum trying to egs pose all the krufrpcorruption. if you look at the record of welfare reform and balanced budget aems and taking to the
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floor the united states senator with my spe -- spendometer. i was the one on pro-life and pro-family issues. it is a record of i was there but look what i was doing there. >> is mitt romney conservative enough to be the nominee of your republican party? >> whoever the nominee is for the party of the eight folks in there i'm going to support and will be far better than barack obama but clearly i am more consistent, awe then thick, conservative than mitt romney. i ran in 1994. i ran if a state with almost more than a million more. i ran with an incumbent whose cam pane was being managed. i took on that incumbent as a conservative. mitt romney ran a race that same year against ted kennedy and ran
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as a liberal republican. i got elected and he didn't. i stood by my principles throughout the time i was in the united states senate and i have not changed. i have been an authentic consist tep conservative and i have won in a swing state. you mentioned the states in your program. you notice there is one state for obama to win, pennsylvania. i can win pennsylvania. >> can you? five years ago you lost by 18 points. >> yeah. it was a horrible lesson. we lost five congressional districts and the state house by the largest margin sense the great depression. it was a melt down year in pennsylvania. i remean everybody that we won by 10 this time and we elected a conservative senator. the atmosphere in pennsylvania has changed dramatically thanks in large part to this president. i feel very comfortable the things i was talking about in 2006 that were very much
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