even attacked. >> herman cain could have used a teleprompter in his interview yesterday. dave weigel. follow me at twitter @swrnedshow and wegot ed. thanks to you at home for staying with us the next hour. at berkeley, cal, outside the administration building there there's a big empty plaza space. at the top of a short run of stairs, from the administration area down to that plaza, there is a plaque that's embedded in the steps. it names those steps the mario savio steps. this is mario savio. you are about to hear mario savio in a moment. for context, the president kurr you hear him mention was

president of the university of california at the time mario savio was speaking here. the students were trying to overturn a ban on political activity on campus and free speech rights to advocate for political causes on campus and protesting against the university board of regents. >> we were told the following, if president kurr tried to get something more liberal out of the regions in his telephone conversations, why didn't he make a public statement to that effect? the answering we received from a well meaning liberal was the following. he said, would you ever imagine the manager of a firm making a statement publicly in opposition to his board of directors? that's the answer. i ask you to consider if this is affirmed, and if the board of regents or board of directors and if president kurr is in fact the manager, i tell you something, the faculty are a bunch of employees and we're the

raw materials. we're a bunch of raw materials that don't have any process upon us, don't mean to be made into any product, don't mean to end up being bought by some clients of the university, be that government, be they industry, be they organized labor, be they anyone. we're human beings. >> we're human beings. mario savio, his big speech that day at cal in 1964 culminated with this famous rallying cry to the students who had assembled there. >> the time when the operation of the machine becomes so onious, makes you sick at heart, you can't passively take part and have to put your bodies upon the goals, the wheels, the levers, the apparatus and make it stop, indicate to the people who own it and run it, unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all. >> that was december 1964. from that very famous speech,

there's a little bit of video from that speech, what you've just seen there. there are still images and there is some audio of mario savio's entire speech. the record of this event in terms of the media available to us now, it's patchwork cy. >> that doesn't mean you have to break anything. 1,000 people sitting down someplace, not letting anybody -- not letting anything happen can stop any machine including this machine and it will stop. >> mario savio, part of him there talking about putting your body on the gears of the machine. you have heard that before. that became one of the iconic rhetorical moments of the whole decade of the 1960s. there weren't very many of those moments from 1964 on the west coast. it was like he was talking about how to stop the vietnam war. it was like he was talking about how to stop segregation. it was like he was talking about big, national issues. and al gorically, maybe he was talking about those bigger issues. in the moment, what he was

talking about, as you heard there, was free speech. was students' rights. students' rights to be protesting at the university of california. this was a huge confrontation between the students and the university. between the students and the police. it was over a very local campus free speech issue. and even though the free speech movement faced huge hostility at the time, there were more than 800 arrest, the largest number of arrests of students in u.s. history up until that point. 30 years later the school put up a plaque for mario savio. they named the steps where he spoke there to honor the most articulate and powerful of the free speech movement student organizers, at that spot. at that spot, this month, at that plaza where cal put up the plaque to mark the success of the free speech movement, here's what happened on wednesday.

riot police breaking up an occupy wall street demonstration at cal's supposed free speech plaza. last week on wednesday. here's the thing, though. since that massive police show of force on november 9th, the protesters there are back. today they organized a day of action at cal that included classes being taught outside and a march from cal's spral plaza, the home of mario savio steps to a local high school, berkeley high and berkeley city college. cal's annual mario savio memorial lecture was already scheduled to be taking place tonight. it was scheduled to be held this year in some ballroom on campus, but thanks to a request from the occupy cal protesters, the mario savio lecture tonight will be held outdoors, it will be held outdoors where the plaque is. where those cops beat up those

protesting students. just last week. at this hour, the student protesters are reportedly planning to erect tents on the grass near where the lecture is to be given. because of that, they say they expect a confrontation with police. they expect to be removed from the free speech memorial plaza again. maybe in the middle of the mario savio free speech memorial lecture. mario savio's widow put out a statement saying the lecture was going to be moved outside, quote, in protest against the use of excessive police force and against nonviolent demonstrators. we said, we apologize for your inconvenience, but as mario said, there comes a time. today in new york city, very, very early this morning, in the middle of the night, new york city police raided and tore town and cleared out the occupy wall street encampment that has been at zuccotti park in lower manhattan for nearly two months. the raid happened at 1:00 a.m. in roughly, as most of the protesters there were asleep. new york city police officers

dressed in riot gear handed out a written notice to the protesters telling them where their personal articles from the encampment could be retrieved which sounds lovely until you saw what they were doing to the protesters' personal belongings. there were reports police use knives to cut up the sturdy military-grade tents that were the best hope of surviving winter down there. you an see police here cutting down the protesters' tent poles with hand-held saws. with saws-alls. this is a massive police action. there were 200 arrests this morning. zuccotti park was totally cleared. here's the thing. like at cal, like everywhere so far for the last couple months, the protesters are already back. after taking temporary refuge last night in nearby foley square, in the immediate aftermath of the police raid, at daybreak, people came back to zuccotti park and said no matter what happened, whatever specific box they were boxed out of for the time being, they were not going away, they were not leaving. >> on a practical level, what happens now?

what's day one, what's day two? >> i'm going to stay here and i'm going to put my tent right back up. we show them that we are not just words on internet screen. we are people. and we are willing to put ourselves in pain and misery to put our point across. >> how important is the occupation to occupy wall street? >> i think it's very important. this is the location, this is the scene of the crime. and we need a critical mass of people. when people get together and they talk face to face and have a library and people are coming down to talk and organize and -- it's what's needed. you can't do everything on the internet. >> those interviews were both shot by our producer laura conaway down there this morning talking to the protesters and also talking to the passers by. >> if they can't be here, what to you think happens to their movement? >> oh, i don't know. i think it -- wouldn't you guess it's strong enough that they'll -- that it's gained so much momentum that they'll keep it going somehow?

>> it does seem like they are strong enough, at least so far, to keep it going somehow. that same point about the fact that this is not going away was made eloquently and pretty effectively i think by dan siegel on this program last night. dan siegel is the adviser to oakland mayor jean quan who resigned in protest over that city once again clearing out their occupy encampment. dan siegel was our guest on the interview last night. >> to me it seems like a totally useless and futile activity to spend millions of dollars to take people out of tents, to create situations where there was bloodshed in our streets and lots of chaos for days. because they're going to come back. this is a movement that can't be stopped. >> they're going to come back. although he did not put it in these specific terms, dan siegel was essentially recommending last night that cities consider taking the approach that washington, d.c., has taken as a city thus far. which is to not try to clear the

encampments out of there. do what you need to do to protect public safety but also recognize this movement is important, to try to figure out a way to let them stay. practically speaking, though, this is just practical advice to every mayor in the country, to every police force in country, the whole point of this protest is that it doesn't two a wgo aw. that's the tactical point. it's not called march on wall street or rally at wall street, it's called occupy wall street. it's mottenot a stand up for th on saturday at noon movement. it's the we are the 99% movement. continued physical presence. so beating the heck out of people and knocking down their signs and arresting them and tearing down their stuff and cutting it up with saws-alls and running them out after a public space for a day, that makes this movement stronger. and it's always been this way. you should have figured it out by now. the reason mario savio gave his bodies on the gears speech that

became so iconic, the reason he gave that speech in september 19d 64, because in october 1964 police tried to arrest people for handing out civil rights pamphlets on the berkeley campus. those arrests led to this. see what's in the center of that? it's not a stage. a kid who the police were trying to arrest for handing out civil rights pamphlets is in that police car which is what's in the middle there. the police car is what mario savio is standing on. that's hundreds, no, thousands, of other people surrounding the police car, not letting the police take that kid away to be arrested. that kid was in that car for nearly two days. had he not been arrested, he would have just been a kid on sprawl plaza giving out civil rights pamphlets. because you arrested him, those became 30 years later the mario savio steps. that plaza became home to berkeley's free speech monument. it became not just some one kid's free speech effort, it became the free speech movement

which by the way became a major part of why we got a nationwide anti-war movement in this country. in oakland on october 25th, 2011, they beat the heck out of people, fractured the skull of an iraq war veteran and doused downtown oakland in tear gas, set off concussion grenades. that encampment came back at that plaza bigger than ever. they've cleared it again, as of two nights ago. how did occupy oakland respond? they came back. they came back to the original square they occupied there and also to a nearby one where they plan to stick it out even longer. in fonew york city, they cleare out zuccotti park in the early hours of this morning with no warning while people slept. tonight, occupy wall street is back, back to zuccotti park. in boston, remember the footage we showed you a few weeks ago, the occupy boston encampment being cleared out? they're back. they are back, too, and fair they're filing legal action.

in portland, oregon, this weekend, there was a huge show of force against the occupy portland encampment. occupy portland responded by calling for a citywide day of action on sunday, claiming for support than they ever have in the past. at cal berkeley after being beaten by police and cleared out, occupy cal was back with a full day of protest activities tonight and back tonight at the birthplace of berkeley's free speech movement to hear outdoors tonight the mario savio memorial lecture to be delivered a short time from now by robert reich. joining us now is robert reich, professor of public policy at berkeley, former secretary of labor under president clinton and will deliver tonight's mario savio memorial lecture, unexpectedly outdoors. secretary reich, thanks for joining us tonight. >> good evening, rachel, how are you? >> i'm good. tell us what the feeling is on campus right now and what the scene is like at berkeley. >> on campus, there's a mood of

restlessness and uncertainty. a lot of the students don't know if the police are coming back in. there's a kind of nervousness but a sense of indignation with what happened last week and righteousness with regard to the purpose and history of the free speech movement here. you know, rachel, the irony of all of this is not only mario savio, it's that right now we are at a time when the supreme court has said that money is speech, speech is money, and corporations are people. i mean, you know, we've turned the first amendment on its head. and instead of allowing people to peaceably assemble to express their outrage at how much money is now going into politics, we've got mayors and other officials all over the country saying you can't assemble, you can't express yourself, but we are going to listen to the money from the big corporations that now are basically engulfing american politics. >> how do you think that mayors' decisions, police departments'

decisions to act very aggressively toward these protesters, how do you think it is changing the movement, if at all? >> i think it's strengthening the movement. i mean, as you said before, every movement that has occurred over the last 75 years, of american history, and we know a lot of movements abroad as well, when they are cracked down upon, when there is sort of a violent effort to end them, and also especially when the members of the movement maintain a kind of a peacefulness, nonviolence, a civil disobedience, that strengthens the movement. the movement grows. that is almost inevitably what's going to happen here. >> you ran for governor of massachusetts. you were cabinet secretary in the clinton administration. you've been involved in public service your whole life. when you think about the responsibility of public officials at times like this, can you imagine a means by which public officials responsible for the safety of a city's residence, but also respecting their rights, can tolerate

ongoing semipermanent protest encampments? is there a way to keep things essentially law-abiding and protect peep's rights to say what they want to do and assemble and say so in the means of their own choosing? >> i think there is, rachel. sometimes it's inconvenient and a little expensive. that's what democracy is all about. democracy can be inveents and kind of expensive. the first amendment can be very inconvenient. a lot of people don't like freedom of speech. a lot of politicians would like it if there were no freedom of speech. their lives might be much simpler. that's the price we pay for a living democracy. and particularly at a time like now when so much money is entering politics, we've got to guard these free speech rights of ordinary people and students and citizens more carefully than ever before. >> i know that the title, or at least the subject of your speech tonight is on class warfare. to you feel like having this protest movement in the streets,

again, more than a thousand site the arou s around the country, is changing the way we think about class, the way we think about the working class and middle class and the way we think of the political responsiveness of our system to the very top of the 1%? >> of course it is. i mean, before the occupy movement a couple of months ago, there were not page one stories about so much of the nation's income and wealth and political power going to the very top. there was not very much discussion about the consequences of all of this for our democracy. and even for our economy. i mean, the mere fact that the occupiers have focused on this extraordinary concentration of income wealth and power has made it something that even in polite company you can talk about without being accused of being a class warrior. >> robert reich, uc berkeley professor, president clinton's labor secretary and featured speaker at tonight's mario savio memorial lecture. a bit more of a fraught occurrence than it usually is

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weather museum in houston, texas? there is. there's a weather museum which has weather terrariums showing weathers in different parts of the world. weathers? i guess weathers. there's a tornado chamber built you can see and touch a mini tornado as it forms inside the chamber. the library, if you want to see its holding they're cataloged online at library thing. it's a resource libraries can use to list their holdings. so the weather museum uses library thing. it's also used by the champagne public library in illinois. also the greenfield public library which i have been to in massachusetts. the bend public library in oregon. and the library of occupy wall street. the 5,000 plus books of the occupy wall street library in downtown manhattan have been met

tick meticulously put online. it tells you about the ethos of the movement, five minutes after protesters set up the occupy camp downtown roughly speaking, they set up their library. a physical cataloged organized space for reading. reading about the protest movement and its discontents but also just for reading. yeah, it's political stuff, from ralph nader, to david brooks, to sean hannity. i kid you not. he's in their library. it's also spider man, stan lee. the 5,000-plus titles and counting is online in this beat big super organized searchable for anymore database of library. you can search the occupy wall street library online. we'll post a link on our blog tonight so you can do that at home if you'd like to. that's the only place you can search. the actual books are gone. they're not at the occupy wall street physically. occupy wall street library

physically anymore. overnight and michael bloomberg ordered wall street to be unoccupied, the library was swept up and torn down and hauled off, as protesters were evicted and/or arrested from the site. initially there was confusion about where exactly the library had been taken and what condition it was in. this afternoon the mayor's office twitter account posted this, property from zuccotti including the occupy wall street library safely stored at 57th street sanitation garage. it can be picked up wednesday. that tweet was accompanied by this photo of a bunch of bins and stacks of books. the folks behind the occupy wall street library responded via their own twitter account saying, quote, looks like our library. not all of it. they noted on their website, quote, we're glad to see some books with okay. where are the rest of the books? we won't be convinced until we have all our undamaged property returned to us. we asked the mayor's office

today for permission to see and photograph the books ourselves. the mayor's office declined saying they might allow us to photograph the books tomorrow. tomorrow, however, is when they told the librarians they can pick up their books. tonight as protesters have rallied back at zuccotti park in lower manhattan, some of the protesters have come bearing books. to help reestablish the library. right now. starting tonight. >> it is my understanding that the city came in, withdrew all of the books, checked them out. they didn't use library cards. they didn't check with librarians. i mean, i suppose if they wanted to take out 4,000 books, okay, although they did take out a lot of books that are reference materials that we asked to be kept in the library so it wasn't considerate of them to take those out. they also took out library computers which we certainly do not loan out. we're hoping that they're at home reading the copies of the constitution they took out from the library. >> joining us, jeff charlotte, a

co-founding member of occupy writers, a group of writers that came out in support of the occupy movement and will assist with the effort to rebuild the occupy wall street library and a contributor at "rolling stone" where we has a piece in the current issue chronicling the rise of the current issue. i knee you aow you and other oc writers folks have talked about ways to help the occupy wall street library. why do you think that library is important? >> the library embodies the imagine nation, the driving force of this thing. a lot of people who haven't had a chance to visit it get caught up on policy ideas and so on. if you go to that library, as you said, 5,000 volumes, to me that was the thing that hooked me. that was the thing that made me understand this is different than, you know, a normal demonstration. it is -- it is literally the imagination of the occupy wall street movement. >> and it's -- what they're

imagining is a permanent or semipermanent presence. they're imagining some sort of long term physical commitment to their space. is that intrinsic to the message? >> i think it is. i think it is. there's that slogan that sort of made the rounds, we are our demands. what are our demands? we are our demands. the fact of their presence. the question of free assembly which is obviously up for grabs right now. also that library right there, one of the things i thought was fascinating, you go down there and see the parents bringing their kids to get children's books from the library because new york public libraries have been defunded. there's nothing opened. there are no bookstores down there. it's a sad day when the closings of borders is the death of a culture in a community in that part of lower manhattan. that was the kind of -- that had become the public library of that community. >> jeff, in your reporting for "rolling stone" you wrote being down there overnight you felt

like it was a turning point for the movement when the tents came out, when they erected tents on the site. i thought about that today, when we had multiple reports that police were using knives to physically shred the heavy duty tents, the military-grade tents people thought would be key to how they would survive winter. we don't have footage of that. we've seen multiple reports. we have footage of police using portable hand held saws to saw down the tent poles from the tents. how to you feel like the movement will be effected by that in particular? >> by the tearing down of tents? make the distinction between the small sort of personal individual camping tents, which, excuse me, i've got a case of what they call zuccotti lung, the cough from being in the park. and these larger army tents. the library was now housed in one of these library tents. they had shelves and so on. people who say oh, these tents are places where they're private and nothing can happen, aren't really dealing with the steps that the occupy movement had

taken to bring in these big, large, warm, secure army tents that can be used for building institutions and so on. taking those down is a terrible blow. what happens next, i don't know. i just came from the park and they have their nightly general assemb assembly. their direct democracy sort of activity. and it was, i have to say, the most energetic, the most joyous one i've seen there in all the time i've been covering this. and there's a lot of adrenaline going around. but, you know, after a day of real police violence, the dominant emotion wasn't anger, it was kind of joy. so where it goes, i don't know. that's very promising. >> jeff sharlet, co-founder of occupy writers and contributor at "rolling stone." we have cough drops. that will help. best new thing in the world still to come. st more youtube vs of your baby acting adorable. baby. on it. matt, ignore me and keep updating your fantasy team.

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do you want to see a guy light his tap water on fire? you've probably already seen this clip. look, look, wait, one, two -- here it -- misses. this is from the documentary -- come on. this is from the documentary "gas land" that came out last career. t the man is lighting his tap water, ordinary drinking water, the same tap water you have in your house, except his lights on fire. he's able to pull off that bit of all chemical magic because his water supply has been poisoned, contaminated with chemicals that are more flammable than water is inflammable. it's not just that one faucet. the lighting the water from my faucet is a genre on youtube. turn on the tap and break out the water. a lot of americans can burn

their water which makes you worry if something in your house catches fire, what exactly should you use to put that fire out? fracking, known in textbooks as hydraulic fracturing, is one way energy companies get oil and gas out of the ground if it's stuck inside rock. they pump water and chemicals into the rock to fracture it thus releasing the trapped fool they want to get out of there and sell. also in the process, they pump all that hydraulic fracturing fluid into the ground. ground. into the ground. ground is the root word of ground water. what's in the hydraulic fracturing fluid that these companies are pumping into the ground and thereby maybe into the ground water? we don't know. legally the companies do not have to disclose what it is they are pumping into the ground. in 2005, president bush signed a law saying though we have a safe drinking water act in this country that's supposed to stop anybody from polluting americans' drinking water, quote, hydraulic fracturing operations relate ed to oil, ga

geothermal activities are except. the federal government will stop you from polluting drinking water in this country unless you're an oil and gas company polluting the drinking water by fracking in which case, cool beans, sorry to bug you, carry on. ever since then, energy companies have been having a fracking awesome time of it all over the u.s., anywhere they think they might be fuel they can blast out of the ground that way. the federal government unable to regulate fracking, the job has fallen to the states and the states have not been very good at it. remember how not just our tap water but rivers used to catch fire in this country? the states could not handle it so the rivers would catch fire. they couldn't handle it or wouldn't handle it. we're living through the water catching era all over again. this year in pennsylvania, for example, the new republican governor there, tom corbett, handed over all decisions about fracking to a single political appointee, who also happens to be a top energy executive. and a major contributor to governor corbett's political

campaigns. and the gas patch of wyoming, where there's quite a bit of fracking, wyoming residents are been complaining about changes in their drinking water for years. pour a glass of water and see a rainbow sheen, they said, like an oil slick at a gas station and smelled like gasoline. last year the government warned people in pavilion, wyoming, to stop drinking their water altogether because it could make them sick. well water and ground water filled with compounds like methane that the government advised people to open the windows and turn on a fan when they took a shower or did laundry. otherwise their houses might explode. the epa told the town it couldn't be sure yet what was causing the pollution. then last week after years of testing, the epa released new results from its tests in wyoming and found traces of diesel fuel in the water and acetone and naphthalen and benzine and 2jbe, a chemical

widely used in fracking. joining us, the propublica reporter who broke the story. nice to have you back on the show. >> hi, rachel. >> the epa is not saying this water pollution is definitely coming from the fracking in wyoming. is there a reasonable alternate explanation as far as you can tell. >> there are a couple of alternative explanations. they all have to do with drilling if not the fracking process specifically. there are a bunch of waste pits that have contaminated the ground to some extent. the question is, have they gone into people's drinking water wells and what they announced this week, a thousand feet down into these monitoring wells? it's also possible there are other spilled substances from the drilling activities on the surface from trucks and so forth that have gotten into the wells. but they have -- they seemed to

rule out agricultural causes which would be the other industrial activity in the area. no nitrates, no fertilizers, nothing like that. >> if in the big picture the federal government is not supposed to regulate fracking activity in terms of its effect on drinking water, why is the epa doing the testing? >> the epa responded to complains from pavilion that go a decade back. the epa has responsibility for regulating water and the environment and they took this on as a straightforward scientific investigation. it's not as they tell it an investigation to drilling or hydraulic fracturing but just to find out if the water was indeed contaminated. they confirmed it is. eventually to try to get a line on what caused that contamination. the program's funded through the super fund cleanup program entirely separate from the ag t agenagen agen agency's investigation into hydraulic fractutrac frackturin

>> how quickly did people start talking about the possibility of drilling or fracking could be to blame? how specific were they about that and how early on? >> dependent on who you talk to. pavilion is the first place i first went, where i first began reporting in 2008. like a lot of other places, there were a range of folks, some who complained about their water and had no idea what might have caused it and others who suspected drilling had. and beginning in about 2004, until the time i started reporting, 2008, there was a growing suspicion this process of hydraulic fracturing might be causing some problems. not a lot known about it, but it's a scary kind of process and when you do try to learn more, you learn some of the things you mentioned about exemptions and loopholes and a lack of understanding. that increases suspicions that fracking might be the process that was causing contamination. really until now, and even to a

great extent now, you know, that's inconclusive. it's just the chief suspect. >> do you see any prospect that the states actually could get great at regulating this type of activity and taking care of people's health and safety? >> well, sure. they could. and there are some states that do. you know, comparatively good job. there are some states that fall way behind. what's misising is a consistent baseline. that's something a lot of people who want to see regulation say the epa can provide. what no state does really well, and in my opinion, after having covered this for a long time, every state needs to do, is push to make sure that the best practices that are known are used in the gas fields and in oil drilling as well. that's to say the best and sastest and most environmentally safe techniques that the industry knows how to use are employed and used at not disregarded to save money or save time. >> the propublica reporter who

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and everyone knows what that is. a statement against our economy that the system is only working for the most powerful people in the country anymore. 0 occupy wall street is famous by now. everybody understands the basics. less famous and less understood is occupy, occupy wall street. that is not a teleprompter error. occupy, occupy wall street is an actual thing, an actual satire thing. it is, as far as i can tell, two guys pretending to be the 1%. they are occupying occupy wall street. see their signs? thanks bloomberg,ing 1% stick together. and rere-elect bloomberg. get it because he is already in his third term. it is satire in a way that it mocks the rich and powerful, but it does so quite -- sort of with a straight face, i guess convincingly. in any case it can be hard to tell they are joking even if you

are a seasoned journalist. >> interestingly, not everyone here in the park is one of the protesters that agrees with occupy wall street. >> you knew it had to happen. these two self-described investment bankers say they are happy to be part of the 1% that has all of the wealth. >> tell us your name and why you think it is not a good idea. >> i am with the organization occupy occupy wall street. we are feeling betrayed by the mayor with. it felt like he was on our side and pulled a fast one on sglus we worked hard to get where we are and people are down here whining that they don't have the wealth we have. this is america and this protest seems un-american if you think about it. >> every day someone is tricked

by ernest stath tire. but when it happens andy kaufman gets a new set of wings in heaven. our producer laura conway was there when a crowd of occupy wall streeters came in to contact with the satire guys with the occupy, occupy wall street guys and when occupy met occupy occupy, the best new thing in the world happened. >> rich grandparents. >> i don't have rich parents or grandparents. >> then you are what you see. >> there has to be a winner and loser. we are the winners. >> everybody who works down the there.

>> thank you. thank you. >> you should not be afraid to show your face. let's see your i.d. >> we're not afraid. >>. >> so was that funny and painful and well done? yes. but was that the best new thing in the world today, no. what happened next is the best new thing in the world today when the real occupiers figured out the occupy occupy guys were not totally 100% straight up legit. watch. this is so awesome. >> 1% you should not be afraid to show your faces. let's see your i.d. >> we're not afraid to show our faces. >> can you imagine what would happen if we showed up -- [ [ inaudible ] >> it wasn't their suits. it wasn't their love of money or their brazen adoration of bloomberg. it wasn't them saying it has t