democrats when anyone can run, knock liable jimmy who? and bill clinton and barack obama, about you if your daddy ran once, like bush or republican any did or you take years of abuse like nixon or dole, get in line, and wait your turn, and some cold day in new hampshire it will be your turn. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us, "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. getting the job done. tonight president obama's fight for jobs is paying off. but wait until you hear how republicans are spinning strong job numbers. santorum surging, but so is romney. can anyone catch willard in this campaign? and newt oh newt, he's at it again. >> if you in fact talk openly and honest by about the failure of liberal institutions and the

way they hurt the poor, there comes a sudden frenzied herd of people running racism. welcome to "politics nation." i'm al sharpton. rick santorum says we need a, quote, jesus candidate. i'm not buying what he's preaching. i'll get to him later. let's begin with the news that president obama's jobs crusade is working. let's take a look at this graph. it shows private sector job growth, these blue lines, represent job growth during president obama's time in office. he took over as the economy was shedding thousands of jobs. now, look, for 22 straight months, we've seen positive predict sector job growth. despite this, speaker boehner has the nerve to say -- both

parties, this from a gop that refuses to even accept the word compromise? your idol, as i've read, was ronald reagan, and he compromised. >> he never compromised his principles. >> so did you compromise? >> we found common ground. >> why won't you say -- you're afraid of the word. >> i reject the word. you reject it. you're about -- >> i'm very gratified to see in spite of the policies, that the job market is beginning to pick up a bit. i think there might be some optimism that maybe republicans are going to take the without and maybe that's spurring people to start taking some risks. >> rick later said he was joking. i'm not laughing. but mitt romney's response is even more of a joke, calling it no cause for celebration. yeah, right.

and newt gingrich, here's his take. >> the jobs numbers today offer a very stark contrast between timid and bold, and i think giving this president, it's very unlikely he's going to solve it. >> sorry, newt. it looked like he's already on his way, despite the opposition from your party. >> joining me is hilda solis, u.s. secretary of labor, secretary solis, thanks for joining me. >> thank you, reverend. it's good to be with you, and happy new year. >> happy new year to you. mitt romney says this report is not a cause for celebration. do they not get it? >> nothing could be further from the truth. we know that this has been a long hard road, but we know in the last year alone, we created more than 2 million jobs, and this job report for december shows that we've seen a tick down of the unemployment rate, and we've actually seen 200,000 private sector jobs created. all the remedies that the president put forward when he

took office are showing the results. we have to continue on that trajectory. we still need for the congress to work with us so we see the extension of unemployment insurance as well as the payroll tax. those two alone will help to create and encourage more job growth. it's about private sector job growth, about entrepreneurship, it's not about us telling people where the jobs are going to be, it's about allowing for that marketplace to work with good incentives and leadership, what i like -- >> with all of this politics but all of it should be about helping provide some kind of security and jobs for it is american people. so i wanted to start with that. 200,000 new manufacturing jobs and the lowest unemployment figure since when? >> i would say we haven't seen this in a few years. what's good about this is what we're seeing is there are good

jobs being created. permanent jobs. we know the investments that the president made -- we're not even talking about what investments and sacrifices that so many people have made in the automobile industry alone, we're seeing people feeling more confident. they're buying cars, buying appliances, they're actually considering spending out more money. so consumer confidence is a big part of this, and part of it is, you know, in spite of what happens with the gridlock in congress, that people are seeing that there is strong leadership on the part of the administration to continue it move forward for the middle class. and we're talking about relief for them by providing tax breaks for them, not for the millionaires and billionaires, about you for the working-class people. that message was loud and clear in december, when there was the deal to extend the provisions in december. now the public has spoken. we want to see a continuance.

secretary, i'd like to bring in jared bernstein. thanks for coming on the show. >> my pleasure. thanks for inviting me. >> let me ask you direct -- where would we be if both parties were focused on turns this economy around rather than just focused on the election? >> oh, the president has proposed many more important jobs measures than we've been able to implement. the american jobs act was scored as creating hundreds of thousands of jobs. now, even in the absence of that act, there's some momentum in the economy, as you just heard the labor secretary say, and she's exactly right. but we're not done, by any stretch of the imagination, and there are some down-side threats out there. there's europe. there's oil, and there's the fading of some of this fiscal stimulus, so it's very important to try to do more to implement the kinds of ideas that the

president -- >> secretary solis, we still have to go back to the congress. we have a two-month extension on the payroll tax cut, and on unemployment insurance benefits. >> right. >> will we see a spirit of cooperation in the congress to extend this for a year? we're hearing already today that there's some lack of cooperation despite the fact that we're seeing manufacturing jobs coming about, and that people still need help as we see the economy continue toward recoveries. >> all i can tell you is if we don't extension the unemployment insurance benefits, you'll see the unemployment raid go in the opposite direct, and we will put ourselves in that category that i don't think any of us whattant to go into. we need to see a continued attempt to make sure that we repair the economy by doing everything we can. we've even reformatted some of our own programs in workforce

training and are looking at ideas to help to create new opportunities, even through the ui program, by incentivized people who want to start up their own jobs. we have a lot of great things we haven't even had a chance to implement yet, because there have been road blocks by the congress, but the public spoke, reverend. you know that. right before christmas, they want we want people to get together. the support out there that we saw was incredible, and people called their congress people and senators. well, they need to do the same thing again, to remind these members to do that. >> jared, let me ask you this, though. look at this graph. the jobs are coming from the private sector. 1.9 million jobs, but the public sector is down, 280,000, which is why we need.congress to cooperate, because we are seeing the administration successful in getting the private sector up, but the public sector, where a

lot of people that are working and need to work that live in these cities that are suffering, working the public sector, that is actually going down. >> exactly. we've had month after month of private -- sorry -- of public sector job loss. i think these words public sector sometimes are too broad. let's talk about the folks who actually work in that sector. police men and women, schoolteachers, sanitation workers, these are the folks that keep our communities livable, keep them running. you can cut all the public schoolteachers you want, but watch your class sizes double and triple. states have to balance their budget. the federal government can run a budget deficit. we want to make sure over the medium and long term that fiscal deficit begins to come down, but right now to starve the states and avoid -- and not provide them with the fiscal relief that could help, to pull back on the

very hurtful layoffs, is a big economic mistake. >> hilda solis, secretary of labor, and jared bernstein, thanks for coming on the show tonight. >> thank you, reverend. >> thank you. coming up, we'll kick off our special series "here are the jobs." a campaign to put real people in touch with real jobs, right here on the show. but first, rick santorum is surging in new polls, mentioning me on the stump, and saying we need a jesus candidate. what? how would jesus feel about your extreme views? plus newt gingrich is digging himself into a deeper hole. now he's saying liberals hurt the poor. i'm responding. a big week for president obama. would i the choice has never been more clear. you're watching "politics nation" on manage nbc. [ male announcer ] to the 5:00 a.m. scholar.

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welcome back to "politics nation." just four days before the next republican primary, and rick santorum is trying to turn the

race upsidedown. his numbers are up in new mexico, where today he was met by overflow crowds, and his supporters also up in south carolina. that's where willard romney's numbers climb to number one, with 37%. santorum has climbed 15 points, up to claim second place. but the rest of the field is falling fast. santorum is hoping to overtake willard by appealing to conservatives and evangelicals. >> i was on a radio show today in boston. the guy asked -- don't we need -- he said, we don't need a jesus candidate, we need an economic candidate. and my answer to that was -- we always need a jesus candidate, someone who believes in this. right? >> you want to be the jesus candidate? with statements like this?

>> i don't want to make people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money. i want to give them the opportunity to earn the money and provide for themselves and their families. >> this racially charged rhetoric has become a growing theme of the gop. we talked go ahead about the growing outrage over race-baiting comments that newt gingrich made. >> if the naacp invites me, i'll go to their convention and talk about why the african-american community should demand paycheck and not be satisfied with food stamps. >> today a reporter asked newt if he was appealing to prejudices and stereotypes. here's what he said. >> if you in fact talk openly and honestly about the failure of liberal institutions and the way they hurt the poor, there comes a sudden frenzied heard of people screaming raisism, raisism. it's a fact that liberal institutions in the inner cities

have failed the poor. >> liberal institutions have failed the poor. tell that to the 40 million poor people who are able to put meals on the dinner table thanks to food staumps, or 9 million people served by women, infant and children food programs. or the 900,000 poor kids enrolled in preexile by headstart programs. all of us want them to be able to earn a living by themselves. all of us want them to have equal opportunity. that's what we marched and fought to, but it has been policies that have robbed them of that and caused afternoon inequality in the economy that makes a safety net necessary. you want to remove the safety net because the policies have not worked? let's count who's been in charge of the white house the last 20 years, and we see that it was mostly people from your party, newt, and mr. santorum. these are the policies that made

safety nets even more necessary. don't remove people's ability to take care of their families and then preach to them about they should do what they really want to do. most people don't want help, they want to stand up, but they need help when they're not able to stand up. joining me now is bob franken thank you both for being here tonight. when numerically, that is clearly not true, i mean. >> let me use the term intentionally that you used last night and whether you meant it or not. i do mean it whether it seems to be appeals to the extreme right

wing of the republican party. that is to say that there continues to be among many conservatives a real resentment against blacks. this is a way of pandering to that, in addition to which you have rick santorum representing the theocrats and the republican party, which is also part of the base, theocracy, of course, like perhaps the one in iran, they would like to see that created here. this is really an appeal to the base instincts in the republican party, and the base instincts of the republican base. >> i meant what i said. somebody said it was a gaffe. i repeated it last night, that it was in line with the angry -- it was in line with the distortion, so clearly let me show you some of the confusion on this rhetoric.

>> i had this discussion with al sharpton the other day on msnbc, and i was talking about the importance of the two-apparently family. i said what are you going to do? i said that's the difference between you and me, al. you think the federal government has to do everything. i don't. >> let me show you what he and i talked about. >> just the opposite. i'm not saying we need federal programs -- >> how do you do it? >> we need a president who can talk about those things. >> but when you get through talking, how do you do it if the federal government is not going to do it? i might remind you you're

running to be the head of the federal government. how are you against something that you're running to be in charge of. isn't that a little schizo? >> that's the difference between you and me. >> i realize he said blah people, not black people. now he said he and i were talking about family and the federal government. i just played the tape. we were talking about education, and when i said to him what would you do in education is when he said everything doesn't have to be federal government. i said if you're running to be the head of a federal government, he said that's where the difference is between you and i. does he have a problem of recall, or is he purposely trying to play this irresponsible family synonymous with blacks, this whole race card game? clearly what he told the people last night is not what he and i

discussed on "morning joe." isms it sounds like from what he and speaker gingrich and their comments that, one, if you listen to the records and their careers, they are interested in issues of poverty, issues of race, issues like that. i think that the problem is they don't really know how to speak about them. that's why he's talking about food stamps as if blacks only get food stamps. i think they don't necessarily know how to talk about them or having credibility on them. i think that's the challenge for both those men. >> bob, let me say this, and i want to get into the kind of race that's going on in newspaper new hampshire, south carolina. wouldn't it be fer if you're running for president, even if ear going to say that?

wouldn't it be better if you were outlining this is how i would have people stand up? what's missing here is you attack poor people, but you don't show how you'll provide the opportunities that you claim they need. >> i hate to disagree with you, but they have outlined it. you see a tax plan by mitt romney, for instance, which sees to it there's a huge cut for people at the top of things. by the way, i also wanted to disagree with my friend perry bacon, when he says they don't know how to talk about race. yes, they do. i think this is very intentional, it is pandering, there's sort of a wink/wink that this base should be reminded that barack obama, president of the united states is one of them, an african-american. yes, i think this is very intentional. i think it is part of a hateful campaign that is being very methodically run in the hope

it's going to appeal to voters who would love to see us return to the good old days of jim crow. >> let me show you had something, perry. you're a little younger than bob and i. >> how can you say that, al? getting foot stamps, collecting welfare. george curry told me today, and i looked it up, the washington star proved the welfare queen was a myth 36 years ago, the person didn't exist. so this whole demonizing poor people, trying to make innocent voters feel they're getting ripped off by the poor, not the corporate guys and people he looked out for, but some

fictitious welfare queen that did all of this, and now we're seeing a -- >> my sense is, and i agree with bob as well, this is an attack on president obama. obama favors an entitlement society. the notion they're trying to create is president obama wants to lead a different kind of america. thatr they're trying to appeal to tea partiers. >> and they don't mind polarizing and dividing and in many ways trying to distort the image of people. mostly white with foot stamps we

have two debates this weekend, today was slamming romney pretty hard. we have romney at 40, paul at 17, santorum at 11, what you do you expect will happen this weekend? why do they try to come up. >> i think they'll try to rattle mitt romney's cage. he's probably get anger management sessions it's going to be interesting to watch all this. it looks like he in fact will meet expectations in new hampshire. if he does anything but

spectacularly, he's kind of lost. but they're aiming toward south carolina, and where politics are really conservative. it's always interesting they say it has a low country. when it comes to the entire state -- >> the right-wing columnist with a great amount of influence, george will and charles cr drauthammer, when i read what they're saying, he's the first challenger to be plausible challengeable will is saying who is more apt to energize them.

are we see the anointing of santorum? >> maybe from george will and charles kraut hyper. i think what you'll see in this weekend is santorum will attack mitt romney. newt gingrich will attack, too. thank you both. have a great weekend. >> and a quick programming know. stay with msnbc for "hardball" tonight. chris has a must-see interview with newt gingrich. that's a must see. ahead, starting the year off

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welcome back to "politics nation." let's be honest, progressives have had a rocky relationship with the president. i haven't always agreed with everything he's done, but there's a clear choice in this country, and that clear choice is shaping up. it's going to be him or one of the six people still fighting to challenge him. make no mistake about it. he's running as a progressive. just look at the week he's just had. today he unveiled a plan that would ease green card restrictions and reunite hundreds of thousands of people with their families. yesterday he went to the pentagon calling for dramatic defense cuts that would save over ten years and one of the defining moments came this week, telling the gop he won't take "no" no an answer, protecting americans by appointing richard

cordray. 2012 will be about a choice, and it's pretty clear to me who's side americans should be on. joining me now, msnbc analyst richard wolffe, the author of "revival" the struggle for survival inside the white house. and maria teresa kumar, an msnbc contributor. richard, how good a week was this for the president? >> well, you have to look at both sides of the coin. for the president he looked acti active, like he was being pragmatic, taking his agenda forward. the other side is what we saw on the republican side. it's interesting how his opponents stack up against those measures. they don't want to see the consumer protection board come into effect. they are very ready to go into another war with iran, on a low

level of provocation, and also leads you to question whether or not they're serious about deficits. what are you talking about the deficits for? so you put those two together, and thefuls has defined things pretty well for himself. whether people or not hear it, i don't know. >> maria teresa, you like i have dealt in the progressive community with a lot of people that have even gotten angry with us, because we want let's look at our choices. >> right. >> how much do some of things he's doing now make some of the people that call themselves progressive or independent, moderate, in the middle, begin understanding that it's going to be one of these six that and maybe they're giving him too rough of a time?

>> a lot have said there's a lot of policies that we're not just happy with. unfortunately he signed that americans can be detained indefinitely. progressives won't like that. they can cite the fact that unfortunately we're having record foreclosures, but when you step back hearing candidates saying the poor should work harder, that there should be food stamps, and they should receive work instead of food stamps, you realize not only the insensitivities, but the basic contradiction against the republican party and what it really means to be a family. it's because we understand there's a lot of americans out there. today is friday, they're cashing their check, and where are they going? going to payday lenders, who have been exploiting the american public, and the republicans keep saying it doesn't matter. they keep going unregulated. it's these camps that i think the many is showing.

i could caution the trimming the military. he definitely has to. there's definitely fiscal responsibility to do so, but he's going into an election year where syria, iraq, iran, and north korea can blow up at any moment. that's why he went to the pentagon to say, look, i'm tough, i'm the commander in chief, but this is how i need to move forward. and contrast that with the actions the president has begun taking. >> we have to stop illegal immigration. that means turning off the magnets of amnesty, in-state tuition for illegal aliens, employers that knowingly high people who have come here illegally. >> if you look at the poll by pew hispanic center, president obama is being supported by 68%,

willard by only 23. is that because of the positions that the president is taking? >> i think most recognize we've had record deportations, and the campaign is finding going from state to state, they have an enthusiasm gap and they need a quick fix. i also think they have to talk more directly at the local level, dominate that media market at the local level when you're talking about immigration, talking about american issues, whether it's in north carolina, whether it's in florida, texas, wherever the latino vote will make a difference, and talk about health care jobs, but also the important of recognizing these individuals are american and the families are suffering. >> when you look at the republican candidates, gingrich,

huntsman, paul, perry, santorum, they all support tax cuts for the wealthiest americans, new tax cuts for corporations, support ending medicare, support cutting social security, oppose the buffett rule, yet they attack poor people. i've been around a long time. i never met anyone that said my ambition in life is to be on food stamps or on welfare. i'm going to really live a comfortable life, about you that's what they're trying to project. as this becomes clearer and clear clearer, don't middle-class americans now struggling themselves begin looking at them and begin to politically backfire on them? i think what they are doing badly is trying to get their -- president bush when he was a candidate talked about compassionate conservatism. there's no compassion in this stuff. it's just the hard talk of

choosing people who are in the worst possible situation and blaming them for their problems. that's actually what bush ran against in 2000. when he said it was a different kind of republican, that was exactly the different kind of sentiment that he was trying to say he was different about. i don't know -- republicans are quick to say democrats are playing class warfare. the real target block for his politicians should be the middle class, not people at the top or the bottom. >> that's really a harsh statement richard just made, maria. it's one thing to tell people oar not a ronald reagan, but he's saying they're not even a george bush. >> and i think he's absolutely right. what's interesting, when you talk about a class warfare, the iowa polls really closely and see who voted for santorum and who voted for mitt romney. mitt romney, who actually looks like the lead candidate did well -- overwhelmingly over folks who earned over $100,000.

now imagine if he is the gop nominee and he's going to talk about the idea of not having resources and then being poor in america. no one is going to be able to identify hem for the most part when you have 1 out of 2 americans living in poverty now, so i think it's a recognition they're completely out of touch, the measures the obama administration are putting forth, they're coming down slowly, but that's giving people motivation that the sun is rising, there's hope on the horizon, and the republicans are going to have to change their tune. >> richard wolffe, maria teresa kumar, thank you both. >> thank you. ahead, good get ready for fireworks. two huge debates this weekend. not so long ago it was me on that stage. my survival tips for willard and the rest of them are coming up.

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welcome back to "politics nation." the new jobs numbers are cause

for celebration? yes. but there's still a long way to go. 13 million people are looking for a job and can't find one. even though there are at least 3 million openings right now that employees -- employers can't fill. think about it. 13 million people looking, yet there are 3 million openings. why? well, many unfilled jobs require special training, like jobs and health care, engineering, and information technology. geography also plays a role, and in some cases, the information just isn't get out there. we here at "politics nation" want to try to do something about that. we're starting a new series. the gold is simple -- get americans back to work. we'll feature companies hiring right now and make sure people know exactly how to apply. we hope to spread the word and

help some people find work. we kick it off with a massachusetts-based company which provides auto companies roadside assistance programs. agera has offices around the world. 2500 employees, and now they're spanneding, adding hundreds of new jobs. joining mess is sandy justice-savage, vice president of human resources at agero. it's a-gee-ro. >> you have it correct now. >> what kind of jobs do you have available. >> thanks, al for having us on. agero is a fast-growing company, we have offices in florida, texas, arizona, ontario, and

over 2,300 employees. we continue to grow. so we're looking to open a new call center. we haven't decided on our selection yet. we are doing a job fair next week in florence, south carolina, and the follow week we'll be in clarksville, tennessee. we're looking for 500 call center agents, which we actually dahl our heroes. >> looking for 500 call center agents. >> and what is the salary range? >> we offer competitive wages. it will be starting wage of about $10, plus we pay for a experience and we also pay bonuses. >> and what are the qualifications? >> well, we look for people who have customer service experience action people who have empathy while they're talking to those who have broken down on the side of the road. high school education, and some computer skills. and we'll do the training. we offer four weeks of training. they're getting paid while they're in the training program,

and we provide all the programs, and once they have graduated from our training program, we move them onto the floor so they can start taking calls. >> where are these jobs? >> well, right now we're looking to make a final site selection, either in florence, south carolina or clarksville, tennessee, about you we're also -- we have job openings in all of our locations. >> how do -- if i'm sitting there needing a job and may be interested, how do i apply? >> go to www-agero.com, and you look at our job opportunities. we list them for every office that we have across the united states and in ontario. and if you're in florence, south carolina or clarksville, tennessee, we would be happy to receive your resume. once we make a selection, we'll get back to people. >> well, we're going to stay in touch and follow this up. thank you, sandy savage from agero.

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we wrap up tonight with a special new hampshire edition of reverend al's debate tips. this weekend the republican presidential candidates will have not one, but two separate debates. what do the candidates need to do? well, rick santorum needs to punch and punch hard. but look presidential while doing it. he's got to finesse it, and it won't be easy. newt gingrich has nothing to do. he's lost already. if vengeance is what you want,

you better get it this weekend. back in 2004 i went after fellow democrats when i felt it was called for. >> it's better to be a new democrat that's a real democrat than a lot of old democrats up here that have been acting like republicans all along. we need to win by not imitating our position, but by standing up being real democrats. i'm the one that can mobilize and energize that that kind of movement. >> as for jon huntsman. it's all or nothing for him in new hampshire. if he has any special policy tricks, but he has to stick to his guns, even if his views hurt him with the far right base. ron paul simply needs to drive his message. just keep driving your message, you're not in to win. you have a lot of people watching to hear you this weekend. and willard, romney just needs to start running all night.

run all night like a boxer. he needs to dance around the ring and not get knocked out. one more thing. bhafr you do, try not to lose sight of your ultimate goal. >> while we go to the debates and we show our differences, rather than trying to pin the donkey on each other, we ought to slap the donkey and get it ready to defeat george bush next november. nobody fights with dean more than i do. nobody fights with gephardt more than i do, but all of them in their worst night's sleep is better than josh bush. >> don't attack each other. that wasn't for you guys. i want you to attack. that's one piece of advice, i don't want you to take. i'll bet you won't. i'll be here monday night to give a blow by blow. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now.