now you can see some of the students being allowed to leave and released to their terrified parents. >> absolutely scared out of my mind. it's very difficult thing to know that you can't be there to help them in a time like that. i just want him back. i just -- i'm not going to -- i'm not going to be able to calm down unless i actually get to hold him. >> all of our high school students are now safe. the person who -- the alleged person who did the damage is in custody and the students are being evacuated from the high school to maple elementary school. >> again, that was a superintendent and those students were evacuated. they were taken across the street. there's an elementary school literally right across the street from there. and there you can see that many of the parents had gotten there at a point when they were still looking for the gunman.

but, again, that shooter is in custody right now and reportedly was taken just down the road to the county sheriff's department. msnbc journalist joins me now. one of the first things that these officers are going to be asking this kid, if it is indeed a stoopudent, we don't know tha for sure. >> reporter: yeah, it appears the initial reports suggests that in the cafeteria this morning, between 7:45 and 8:00 a.m., that someone, a male described as a student, stood up with a weapon and started firing. there's also reports that the same gunman was seen chasing the student down the hall. if that's the case, chris, that may suggest that there were specific individuals targeted. so notwithstanding, we've got four injuries. we've got three male students and a female student injured. we've got one shooting and suspect in custody.

this harkens back for all of us to columbine in 1989, that first terrible tragedy. and for law enforcement, notwithstanding, they're trying to find out who did this. what the motive is. there are suggestions that this has been tweeted, in essence, there was some type of internet message put out that something was going to happen today. that may suggest that the cataly catalyst might have been something over the weekend. these are things that law enforcement are trying to put together. was there an accomplice, was anybody else involved? this is a real fast-breaking, on going investigation. even though there's one person in custody, there's a lot of questions to be answered and of course the safety and security of the student who is have been injured. >> yeah, and obviously we are sill waiting to hear what their conditions are. some official word on that. you can just imagine the shock

waves that have gone through this community. a high school with less than 300 seniors. we have a number of different investigative groups there, obviously. you have the local police, the county sheriffs, but the f.b.i. was brought in very quickly. what will their role be? >> the. >> reporter: the r.b.i. can mobilize a s.w.a.t. team very quickly. and, again, this takes us back to columbine. at the time of columbine, the law enforcement response was to surround the building, take your time and try to talk people out. columbine taught us a terrible lesson. that lesson is you have to get into the school, you have to find the shooter or shooters and stop them before anyone else is injured. now, the f.b.i., atf will try to run down the or weapons used. we'll be looking at his come putteders, talking to his family members, his friends.

there's a lot to put together, chris, as law enforcement, one more time, tries to deal with the tragedy of what should be the safest place for our children once we get them in school, one more time has turned out to be a very dangerous lace. >> what kinds of questions are you asking this suspect right now, clint, if you're in that room? >> reporter: well, we want to know, for example, what his motive was? where he got the weapon, how long he had planned this, did anyone else participate in the planning, who has he told that he was going to do something like this, were there specific people that he was targeting, how long has he planned this, is he aware of anyone else who was planning a similar type of activity. we've got two different types of information; chris. we have to get urgent information. we've seen school shootings where the shooter has been a student and has shot one of their own parents or someone else at a location away from the

school. so we have to make sure there aren't other victims somewhere else. we have to get that immediate tactical information that can save lives. and then we're going to be trying to develop the strategic information about how long has this been going on, who else may have been involved and who else may be planning to do something like this in the future. >> as you mention columbine and there have been other big high profile things that have happened at schools, places like virginia tech. take us there the mind -- is there something -- is there a thread that runs through the shooters in these school incidents? >> i think there is, chris, you know, i was at virginia tech for a week covering this story for you and msnbc and nbc. and i've been to the location about the school shootings. i've talked to dozens and dozens of high school and college officials who handle these things. and many times it turns out to be the student himself or

herself is usually a loaner, someone who has got on going social issues, social challenges. we've got to be very careful not to paint anybody in the corner because we've seen students who have been terrible academically and we've seen students who have been very bright academically who have still been shooters in these situations. but what we always find, chris, is that there's what a profiler would call "psychological leakage." there's been some message. there's been some threat that's been conveyed to those around the shooter. and, un23fortunately, just liken incident of workplace violence, people don't know the signs to look for or they disregard them or they ignore them. when they see a tweet or a message on social media, many times they disregard it. well, that's just a young adolescent and he or she is just venting. we can't take that for granted, chris. any time there's a social media

message that suggests a threat to other people, we have foe, as parents, as care givers in the school and as law enforcement, we have to find the person responsible for that and find out out just what they meant be it. many times we can head off a situation like this if we're quick enough to identify it obviously before it happens. >> point well taken. i spent a lot of time at columbine several weeks after the shooting. there were a lot of people who were involved in that shooting who have been very active in trying to make sure that there's an awareness and that people know the signs. on the other hand, i'm thinking to myself, clint, you know, anybody who has a child who's a teenager, how many thousands of texts, how many thousands of tweets does any one kid put out in a week? the idea that there would be threatsly is not that shocking. and i guess you have to take -- is what you're saying take every single one seriously.

>> reporter: you have to take every one seriously vanillate although as a parent, we can't necessarily review every message that our child sends out. we need to have an on going relationship with our children. they need to understand that if they see a threatening message, they need to hopefully come to their parents, who they trust, share that message and then between the parent and the child, make a decision. do we go to the school, do we go to law enforcement. chris, just last week i saw a message that had been put together by a sixth grader that was threatening in nature. the people who brought it to me said, well, we're kind of dismissing it. i said you cannot dismiss something like this at all. we've seen people that young still get their hands on weapons and carry out acts. unfortunately, chris, we've got 310 million americans. we've got about 290,000 firearms. so if someone wants to get their

hands on a gun, they can get their hands on a gun. and in a situation like this, they bring it into the wrong environment and where normally you would see teenagers act out in words or maybe a shoving contest, it appears that at least one or more persons used a firearm to do their shoving. >> clint, if you could standby. i want to bring in heather phillips. she's on the phone. good morning to you. what can you tell us? how many student haves been brought to the clinic. >> reporter: good morning. we have two of the students from the shooting here at hillcrest hospital. and we have one male and one female. and, at this point, that's all that we have to share on either of them. >> can you tell us at all if their injuries are life threatening? >> at this point, you know, they're still being, you know, we've got them under observation. they're being reviewed right now and so we'll have more information a little bit later.

>> can you tell us if their parents are there? do they have family that have been able to make their way to the hospital? >> yes, we have family with both of them. >> are they in the emergency room? they're still in the evaluation stages? >> i don't know that at this point. it's all happening very quickly. so they are moving as quickly as possible throughout the care here at the hospital. >> and you're pretty close to the school, aren't you? >> reporter: we are. >> a couple of miles, maybe? >> reporter: yeah, it's several miles away. >> well, heather phillips from the cleveland clinic confirming two students who have been brought in. one male, one female. a lot of information we're getting is coming from the students themselves, students' parent parents who got the information from their kids. and the initial report was that there were three males and one female. but this is the first time we've gotten any confirmation of

where anyone was brought. so two students at the local hospital that is run by the cleveland clinic. and, again, another report that a third student, we believe, was air lifted. we don't know to what hospital. clint, let med go back to you. >> reporter: um-hmm. >> we are now, again, you know, getting a lot of the word from the students who were in there, text messages that they sent out, work that they got to their families, that this shooting happened a little before 7:30. a little before first period. it happened in the cafeteria as students were having breakfast. and then you have seen that report that potentially the shooter may have chased one person down. you have to believe that if it's at breakfast time, right before first period, as you say, would that lend to the possible theory that these students were targeted? >> i think it does, at this point. realize, chris, this is not that

big of a school. they only graduate at 127 students last year. so by most standards, especially by a big-city standard, this is a relatively small school. by enlarge, everyone is going to know everyone. i think the point is important that if someone brings a gun to school, number one, that suggests perhaps planning on their part. and it took place so early in the morning, between 7:30, 7:45. it's hard to imagine that someone would have just happened to have a gun with them and there would have been an incident serious enough to provoke them to pull that gun. so it looks like it may have been something on going. who knows, chris. it could be a boyfriend/girlfriend thing. it could be some altercation that took place over the weekend. but i would strongly suggest that for the student to have brought the gun there this morning, that there's been some prior incidents, you know, many

times we hear incidents of bullying, for example, that law enforcement is going to have to find out what provoked this. and for that student to bring the gun first thing in the morning, he apparently planned foe car to carry out this act. if he was chasing someone down the hall, it seems like he had a specific target. law enforcement are going to have to not only interslew all of the kids there, but their survivors and potential targets try to understand. there is no reason -- you and i can never find a reason that someone would bring a gun to school and shoot another student. but in the mind of somebody eveni young, when they feel that for whatever the reason they have no other choice to do this, they do it. this speaks of our education system where we need to start would recollecting with stude w students in grade school. >> without a doubt. thank you. you're going to stay with us, i

know, as we continue to get more information. and former f.b.i. profiler. but if you're just joining us, four students have been shot in a school, the high school, at chardon, ohio. this is a school that's about 20, 25 miles east of cleveland ohio. they have all been taken to the hospital. one apparently air lifted, two of them at the local branch run by the cleveland clippic. the two of them are at the sheriff's office and we would presume is being questioned. the f.b.i. is there, you saw that the s.w.a.t. teams came in and students and their family stimbeing reunited and parents are able to make their way to the elementary school across the street where students were taken. we'll take a quick break, be back with the latest after this. >> what we know right now is that we suspect one gunman. and that individual is in custody. and we have four students that we know have been injured and

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is it a great moment? >> yes, it is. >> what it's like to see your mom? >> it's good. >> are you okay? your mom seems to be pretty happy that she found you here. >> yes. . >> reporter: so tell me about that feeling when you first saw your mom? >> i don't know. i mean, i couldn't find her at first. so i just, like, walked out. i was walking around trying to find her. >> reporter: so you've been -- you say you looked for your mom for a minute? >> yeah. i walked around the cafeteria and everything and couldn't find her. >> reporter: and, mom, what was it like when you saw your kid? >> really good. i just can't wait to -- i'm so glad she's okay.

>> high school students at chardon high school, obviously probably never happier to see their parents and vice versa than they were in the last couple of hours. after the shooting, four students have been shot and taken to local hospitals. we're still waiting for word on their conditions. let me bring in the lieutenant who is with the county sheriffs. we are told that the loan shooter was taken to the sheriff's office there, lieutenant, is that correct? >> the suspect has been taken to the sheriff's office and is in custody. sk >> do we know -- is he being questioned by your folks? is the f.b.i. there? >> well, we had all of the county law enforcement respond to the location this morning. f.b.i., lake county s.w.a.t. in addition to the local chardon police department. who's actually conducting the interviews with the suspect, at this time i don't know that. >> let me ask you about the timeline. a lot of things went out,

obviously, on social media. we've been getting some reports from students and parents talking to the local newspaper, local television. but let me see what you can confirm for us. we have -- we have been reporting and, again, from eyewitnesss on the scene, that it was a little before first period at 7 kele:30. can you confirm or tell us what you know about what happened? >> i have been informed that the location was in the cafeteria area. i have not been told the exact time when the call came in. and from what i understand, all of the shooting that took place was inside the building. >> and you guys have trained for this, obviously. you're able to mobilize pretty quickly. i understand ambulances came in from four different locations pretty fast? >> correct. >> and tell me, in a situation like this, what does your training have you do what? what exactly is the procedure? what happened this morning?

>> first thing, all of the local law enforcement responds. we want to get the information. get the facts. what we know. what we're dealing with. and then call in the resources. as far as how everybody -- the times that they got here, i don't know that. as i said, we're still in the process of putting parents with students at both locations, the middle school and over at the high school. >> the s.w.a.t., did they go in? do you know which agency was able to take the shooter into custody? >> i don't know what agency it was. >> let me ask you what's happening right now. obviously, parents started to learn this. they saw it on tv. some of them got calls or texts from your kids. do you know where you are in the process of reuniting students with their families? >> i would say within the hour we should have all the parents and the students reunited back together. >> and all of that is taiyanging place

taking place at the elementary school across the street? >> that is the location for the high school students. the middle school, which is sahh short distance away from the high school, those parents are being reunited at that location. >> lieutenant, thank you very much. let's go live to our local affiliate. >> i thought it was fire crackers at first, i wasn't sure. and then i saw a bunch of people running out. so i started running. once i got into the hallway, i went up to the 300s and i heard someone yell behind me get down. and i heard a bunch of shots fired behind me. >> describe the scene. was it total chaos? >> there was a lot of running. a lot of screaming. i heard a bunch of shots fired. >> reporter: did you happen to see the guy with the gun? the shooter? >> no, i never looked behind me. i just ran. >> reporter: and, mom, what would you call the reuniting of your child there? >> it's organized and everybody is just concerned about their

children. they want to get them home and be with them, reunited with them. >> you've got to be two happy people right about how, right? >> yeah. >> it's crazy. it's not my type of day. it's not what i pictured coming to school. >> reporter: chris, there you have it. reunion of mother and son. >> and that's one of the series of reunions we've been hearing about it. but it's the first i've heard of a firsthand account from a student. you can just imagine it does harken back to columbine and some other school shootings where it is absolute chaos. you hear the shooting or people yelling and the next thing you know, they're evacuating. a terrifying morning for those several 00 studehundred studentr their parents who rushed over to get them. we're getting a number of statements from the governor, from some political canned dotteds, we're starting to get

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geauga. the peacefulness of a small town of chardon, ohio, about 5,000 people was seriously interrupted this morning with a school shooting at the high school. four people have been shot. the alleged shooter is in custody, believed to be a student and reactions starting to come in from the governor, john who writes please join me in praying for the student who is have been injured in this horrible crime. praise goes to the chardon police and geauga county sheriff's office for quickly getting this situation under control. i've pledged ohio's full support to them, the school and the local community in this difficult time. and they did respond very quickly, along with the f.b.i. mitt romney, obviously the presidential candidate wrote, i

am greatly saddened to hear about the senseless shooting that struck the community of chardon, ohio this morning. anne and i join in prayers for the victims and their families. still no word from the hospitals on exactly what the situation is, what the condition is of those students, although we got confirmation from hillcrest hospital run by the cleveland clinic that they are treating one boy and one girl. we believe three boys and one girl were shot today. we have john ya thrng, a correspondent who is continuing to make calls and he'll provide some per speblgtive on this. we'll take a break and come back with the very latest after this. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool if you took the top down on a crossover? if there were buttons for this? wouldn't it be cool if your car could handle the kids... ♪ ...and the nurburgring?

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>> that was one of those accountable for. we knew of five victims. >> five shooting victims? >> that is correct. >> reporter: sheriff, could you, from your standpoint, from the geauga county sheriff's standpoint, tell me how this played out? >> as indicated by the chief, we received a call. our deputies began immediately responding to the scene. as soon as deputies and my officers from the chardon police department were on scene, a prompt entry was made into the school. they went into the school, located victims. started to ensure the safety of the other students. it became readily apparent that the shooter had fled already. the ems crews were brought in. as you could imagine, a perimeter was set up to ensure that the suspect had not come back into the school. our canine unit was brought in, tracking was commenced and the individual was apprehended some distance from the school, but had fled on foot. >> reporter: where were the

victims located inside of the school building? >> primarily three locations. and we're holding that information right now until we get -- the initial pointed out that there were reports of four victims. you have to understand that as things came in and began to unfold quite quickly, the number of students, the area that needs to be secured for everyone's safety, you know, information is kind of sketchy in the very beginning. >> reporter: do you have an update on the victims? >> we don't have an update at this time. >> is there any kind of weapon? >> we have a handgun involved. we came down here, we knew you were waiting and looking for information. many of the questions that you might ask, we're getting information as we speak and it's unfolding. >> how many shots fired. >> >> don't have that information. >> was it located someplace else? >> not commenting at this point. >> they were all student ins the school. >> reporter: are they classified

as critical? >> we're waiting for undated information, as you are. we know that three individuals were taken to met trow, were life flighted and flown to metro. >> reporter: one of the teachers actually chased the shooter out of the building. >> when the sheriff and i arrived on the skene, that was the information that the teacher had chased them outside the building. >> reporter: three boys and one girl? >> gosh, with three boys, maybe four boys. i know one was a female. i did see a female. >> chief, we're going to go inside. we'll be back out here probably in 15 minutes to finish this up. >> reporter: do we know the age of the shooter? what grade he was in? >> no, sir. >> and that is a press conference just wrapping up there. we have learned a bit, considerably more information. channel 3 stephanie quinn is

standing by there. we got to that about 20 seconds into it. was there anything out of the gate there that we missed? the clear headlines is five victims, four boys, one female and a teach -- a teacher -- may have forced the gunman outside the building. what else did you hear that was news to you? >> reporter: yeah, absolutely. that's exactly what we heard. we heard that now it's all in flux. five victims now that is what we were hearing. and, again, that gunman who was a student at the school, somehow, forced outside by a teacher. but, again, that's just part of the story as unfolding. and as you just heard, the superintendent and the f.b.i. and the sheriff, they're all convening back inside the board of education building. there's still, effing, a lot more questions to be answered. they say they will come back in a short amount of time at which point they will answer all of those questions.

but, again, chris, as you had mentioned, five victims now. that is what we are hearing. . that is what we just heard from the sheriff's office. and, again, that gunman forced out by a teacher. circumstances, however, still unfolding. we did also hear that the victims were found in three separate places inside the school. where they were, unable to answer that question. but, again, once they come back outside, they could elaborate more as to how this all unfolded. >> also new that we just learned was that the gunman was chased out but he turned himself later in to bystanders. we're told it was some distance from the school where the gunman was actually found later. >> reporter: yeah, actually, erin, i'm having a difficult time hearing you. >> this is the most information we have gotten so far about the shooting. now, five students who were shot at chardon high school. three of them had to be life

flighted out to metro hospital. two at hillcrest. and we had spoken to one of the officials at hillcrest hospital, which is part of the cleveland cline irk. it sounds like the three who were leaf flighted may have all been males. and this is how it unfolded this morning. all happened right around 7:30. again, that's the time of the opening bell. began in the cafeteria. whether all the shootings took place in the cafeteria, remember we heard that the victims were found in three different locations. it doesn't mean that they were shot in three different locations. they could have been trying to flee, as well. we don't know how seriously all five of them have been shot except for the information we know about, three of them being life flighted. and then, the shooter took off on foot. and somehow, a teacher forced him outside. let me bring clint back in, a former f.b.i. profiler, and ask you what you glean from what

you're hearing here that this shooter was able to leave. was forced out. is somehow by a teacher and fled. and then, eventually, turned himself in. >> reporter: well, what we see in these shootings, many time, chris, even though all of the emotion is there, they don't have an afterplan. they don't know what they're going to do after they start pulling that trigger. so psychologically, in a situation like this, if the student was confronted by an authority figure, a teacher and teachers were not necessarily being targeted by this shooter, he may well have just fled. or he may have shot the person he wanted. realize, chris, we heard earlier in this that one witness said they saw the gunman chasing a student down the hall firing at him. so that could suggest the different low coaxeds that you and i are trying to account for because all of the students were not found in the same location.

of course, if you're shot, you could try to get yourself out of that same area, too. but it appears that for whatever the reason, chased out by a teacher or whatever, the student exited was running, walking from the area and, again, really didn't have a plan, it appears, what he was going to do afterwards. and was either apprehended by law enforcement or turned hirms in. but, of course, this chaos is still on going and it is going to be on going for a while until law enforcement ensures itself that they can account for all of the activities, all the vac tims and all of the conspirators. >> let's talk about this report that he had somehow tweeted that something was going to happen at this school today. let me ask you, generically, rather than specifically since we don't have that tweet nor do we have it absolutely confirmed, about the warning signs, clint.

abatis wh about what parents, teachers, other authority figures should be looking for. >> these are the things that the f.b.i. and secret service have looked at very hard ever since columbine in 1999. they found things like young men and women who are very much active in these one-on-one video games, shooting games. and, you know, does every person play a game like that turn out to be a school shooter? of course they don't. but some people have the inability to differentiate between the virtual life, the virtual world that they're involved in when they do those shootings on a video game and what real life is. we look for that same type of person, chris, somebody who's lonely, who's anxious, who may be angry at life or angry at others. what we find, chris, is that a person like this always talks about it. he mentions it to others. it's either verbally or he may send out some type of

threatening letters, where other students, other people simply dismiss him, mainly because of the challenges with his life. it's usually someone who is withdraw. they may feel bullied or teased and they have significant anger management issue that is have built up over the years. when we start to see these red flags, chris, these are what we call students in need. this is someone who needs help. they need counseling. they need someone to work with them. that's before that anger, frustration, rage is acted out like apparently we've seen this morning. >> clint, if you can standby, we're going to take a quick break. but when we come back, some information of one of the parents of one of the students who was shot. we will be right back after this on msnbc. i think it's final seconds, ohh, down by two, shoots a three, game over. so two seconds ago... hey mr. and mrs. harris, where's kevin? say hi kevin. hi. mom, put me down. put...the phone...down. hey guys. did you hear... the choys had their baby? so 29 seconds ago.

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they went into the school, located victims, started to ensure the safety of the other students. it became readily apparent that the shooter had fled already. the ems crews were brought in. as you could imagine, a perimeter was set up to ensure that the suspect did not come back into the school. our canine unit was brought in. tracking was commenced and the individual was apprehended some distance from the school, but had fled on foot. >> and we learned earlier not only had the suspect fled on foot, but, apparently, turned himself in after being forced out of the school by a teacher. that's the first real subs stantive information we've gotten from officials. they said just about five minutes ago that they were going to come back in 15, reconvene, get some more information and bring it to us. but let's again bring you up to date with what we know. that the alleged shooter is in

custody at the geauga county sheriff's office. five students have been hospitalized. three of them life flighted to metro hospitals. two at the local hillcrest himont. you can only imagine the motion scene. we're just getting a report from a mother who came to the scene only to find out that one of her children, her daughter, had been shot. she's one of the two, apparently, who was taken to hillcrest, the local hospital. she told reporters for the cleveland plain dealer, which is the major newspaper in that area, that her daughter had been shot in the buttocks and is in stable condition. obviously, the location of the shooting indicating that she may have been fleeing the scene, a scene of chaos. lilt let me go back to clint. and, again, you can't get out of your mind the situation what it must have been like for those students, early in the morning, some of them just waking up,

some of them in the cafeteria finishing their breakfast as they were approaching first period. in situations like this, when we've had school shootings, are they pretty much always preplanned? >> there usually is some element of preplanning, chris. now, we may be talking about simply days as opposed to weeks or months. but, again, getting your hands on the weapon, deciding when you're going to take it in, you know, my question when i've looked at these in the past is why this day? what was the emotional catalyst that caused this person to act out on this particular day. this is what law enforcement profilers, investigators, are trying to understand. the terrible thing is, chris, that we're forced to learn from every one of these to try to better understand what goes on in the mind of someone like this. how do they plan it? and then, hopefully, distribute that information on high school

campus campuses, on college campuses to give guidance counselors, teachers, parents, a better idea what to look for so we can intervene before these situations happen. >> you had talked about the fact that they are indeed often loners. but are there more specific things? or almost always does that seem to come to light in retrospect? there are a lot of kids who are shy or who are loners or who have social issues. any high school in america may have dozens of them. >> yeah. and you're absolutely right. i think what's more important is how many of these issues you see in one child? anyone can be lonely. but when you add in you're lonely, you're anxious, you're angry, you feel isolated. you've written or talked to other people about how you'd like to get even. how you'd like to take revenge. you acquire a weapon. you get access to a weapon. you talk about being bullied.

you talk about how angry you are. and then, for some, you tie in this virtual reality life of practicing shooting on internet games. well, all of these are not present in every school shooter. but the more we see, the greater potential there is for this to be a student at risk. and those are the ones, chris, that we try to identify. and that's why it's so important today for parents, for care givers, to understand not only what internet sites do your children go on, how do they participate, but how do they feel every day? you know, we can't just take, oh, well, it was an average school day and let our children blow us off. some studies suggested a child only spends five to ten minutes in discussion with their parent every day. this is a challenge not just for thele s the school and law enforcement, it's a challenge for the parents to redouble their efforts to try

to get their children through these challenging years we call the teenage years. >> clint who has been with us throughout the morning as we get more information coming in. clint, thank you. i want to go to lori who is with a local radio station in the chardon area. i know you've been following the reports as they've been coming in. what can you tell us? >> we have just learned that there are now five students that were injured. at least two of them are in critical condition. we have not learned the condition of those other three. we have been reporting all morning there were four, but we have now learned there are five. and, again, that shooter was apprehended. most reports coming in saying he was a student there, but that has not been completely confirmed. >> yeah, this would make any parent out there heart skip a beat. and you can just imagine what it was like when parents of chardon high school students found out what was going on. in fact, we should say that the buss for the elementary school

were on their way to the school and turned around because of the shooting and that's how they were able to use that as sort of a staging center. do you know the status of reuniting students who were not hurt? >> i believe most of them have been reunited at this point. you know, the students from the high school were evacuated to maple elementary and parents had been in a long line waiting to reunite with their students. it was taking a while because as the students were leafing the building, they were going through their bags. that was one report we had. so it was a slow process to reunite with the parents. but we've been hearing from some of them as they come out. they're just very happy to be reunited with them. the middle school students were released five at a time. that started around 9:00 this morning while the high school was still in lockdown. and then they started evacuating to maple elementary and they were telling participanents to

there. >> i was raised in lake county, lori, and my brother lives in chardon. so i know that community well. but tell us a little bit about chardon and about what you can tell us that might be relevant to this. >> we've just been hearing reports from all of the parents. several have called in to say that this type of thing doesn't happen in chardon. they do say that these kids are knowledgeable about guns because they hunt. these are kids that actually, you know, hunting might be one of their hob bees. but you never hear about a stunt bringing a gun to school in chardon. you mentioned, any parent would be nervous over a situation like this. i have a five-year-old. i'm about to send him to kindergarten in the fall. and i've been reporting for 14 years and this story has been the most difficult for me to report this morning because all i can think is that in just a few short months, my 5-year-old son is going to be sitting in a classroom for the first time. >> a story that strikes at the heart literally of every parent out there. lori, thank you so much for your reporting. i can just tell you this again

from your personal experience and the helicopters that landed in the local walmart parking lot, a shocking scene in any case. but i can also say from experience that if you drive into that walmart on almost any day, you're likely to see a horse and buggy. there's a large ammish community in this area. this is a small, closely-knit common tie. a lot of kids may have guns because it is a big hunting area. but something like this coming as obviously such a shock as it would anywhere across america. five students hit. two now were being confirmed as in critical condition. we'll take a break and be back after this. that's why there's b, to make the water we drink, taste a little more, perfect. reduce lead and other impurities with the advanced filtration system of brita. fantastic! [ man ] pro-gresso they fit! okay-y... okay??? i've been eating progresso and now my favorite old jeans...fit.

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the breaking news out of chardon, ohio. a horrifying morning in the high school there. students say that in the cafeteria at around 7:30 this morning, they heard popping sounds. it turned out to be someone they say was a fellow student with a handgun. five people have been injured. two critically.

four boys, we believe, and one girl. the alleged shooter is in custody. we got a new update from officials just about 15 minutes ago. they say they will update again at 12:00, noon. five students, two to be in critical condition, one in stable condition. thomas roberts will pick up our coverage right after this. now, in every box of general mills big g cereal, there's more whole grain than any other ingredient. that's why it's listed first. get more whole grain than any other ingredient... just look for the white check. the day starts with arthritis pain... a load of new listings... and two pills. after a morning of walk-ups, it's back to more pain, back to more pills. the evening showings bring more pain and more pills. sealing the deal... when, hang on... her doctor recommended aleve. it can relieve pain all day with fewer pills than tylenol. this is lois... who chose two aleve and fewer pills for a day free of pain. [ female announcer ] try aleve d for strong all day sinus and headache relief.

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