of the daily run down, movie trivia, with the most movie trivia knowledge i've seen on set, chucked to, and steve cornakie. the president just spoke to the uaw union. they are fired up and ready to go, will they get out to the polls this november? it sounded like it. i don't know if that was -- >> and five years from now, when i'm not president anymore i'll buy one and drive it myself. >> i don't know that that was so much class warfare as that was game on. president obama of course, speaks to the uaw conference, chuck, we talked a lot this election about the blue collar vote and the unions have long been suppoer been supporters of democrats, but they have not put as much

they have in previous years as of yet, do you think the president can count on the blue collar vote? >> i think it's the change that we have seen, when you look at mitt romney's problems and the structural change of the mid woe west, it looked like a problem for the president, but it does not look that way. but there's still a problem with him connecting on a cultural level with some of the voters, but you know, i think that when it comes to if it's a -- it's a one issue referendum and it's the auto bailout, that is a trump card. >> you look at -- >> 62% of michigan residents support this. >> 42% of republicans. >> and 42% of republicans. >> you look at the event he just had, moments ago, cheering audiences, campaigner in chief is back. he is connecting, the shouts

from the audience, you are mitt romney and look where you are at in michigan and the comments about the trees being the right height and so on and so forth -- >> the republicans will not take this state in november. which is pretty important and what is also important, chuck has been following this, is the "reagan democrats" are coming back to the democratic party and that is important. part of that has to do with the over reach we have seen in states like wisconsin, and ohio, where you may see a govern, govern scott walker recalled because millions people do not like how he is bashing workers in a tough economy. >> not to be the debbie downer, you are correct, game on, the jury is still out as to whether or not he will win re-election or not because the economy is still the number one issue, unemployment is still at record levels. you are correct, the last republican to win michigan was george h.w.bush and there's a good point that the president

will probably win again. but can he win florida and ohio ? we don't know yet. >> let's bring in rick santorum. santorum is out there sort of with robocalls, his campaign has funded the calls trying get democrats out and -- in an effort to shore up his support in michigan, mitt romney's campaign has come out and said these are dirt tricks. let's play sound from the romney camp on the santorum robocalls. >> i think republicans have to recognize there's a real effort to kidnap our primary process and if we want republicans to nominate the republican who takes on barack obama, i need republicans to get out and vote and say no to the dirty tricks of a desperate campaign. >> say no to the dirty tricks of a desperate campaign. steve, where does that fall? this, again, of course is mitt romney he of the super pac ad

that trashed gingrich all over florida. >> it has echos of what george w. bush did against mccain. mccain won michigan because he went out and got democratic votes. it's a dispartity how bush and mccain did and this. bush walked away and said i won in the michigan primary, because it was mischiefous. what is interesting to me, santorum's message, it's something that republicans may want to think about. he is playing on kplclass ident, mitt romney's 1% image has brought independent voters support down to a new lows. is he well under 40%, that is a

serious problem. santorum is running on the same economic message but his identity and roots are middle class. if question for the republicans is, if you have a top 1% message, do you want a bottom 99% messager? >> don't you think the santorum has lost the support of the social conservativconservativis? the talks about snobs, you were talking about the playing to the class resentment. okay, do that, but when you talk about higher education as something for snobs, i think you lose a lot of people who believe in the american dream and education tied up with that in the mobility of education for millions. >> if there's a wasted opportunity, santorum may win tonight and this could be the best thing that happens to his career. if there's a wasted opportunity for him and a warning design going forward is this, the opportunity to be the middle

class candidate has been there for him, because he got side tracked in the social issues, how many conservative republicans came to santorum's camp in the last two weeks. i can think of dewine and the congressman from alabama. >> don't you think the question is, what type of the blue collar republican is raiesonating with santorum. now, having said that, we have to remember, he is speaking to a very conservative primary base right now. that message does not resonate in the general election, but to your point, i guess to address your point, i'm not sure that santorum is think background th -- think backgrouing about that, ik background the nra voter that may vote for him. >> i was talking to a veteran republican consultant and he said the most active chapter of right to life is in the state of michigan.

nra has been strong in both primaries but michigan is the place where white working class voters vote their pocket book in november. but in primaries they respond to the culture arguments. >> yet, chuck, mitt romney has gone on record, calling union leaders stooges and getting some part of the blue collar vote. >> i do not understand, when you have highs of union membership has voted 40% republican in some elections. i think there's -- it goes to katrina's point. the anger at public sector unions verses the trade unions has bled over and fired up i think some of the trade unions in a way that -- >> that we have not seen. >> president obama has never been the labor guy and people forget it. >> and his coalition -- >> he has not been that and all of a sudden they have drawn him

over, a guy like jimmy hoffa junior would love to flirt with the republican party but they are weirdly hostile to him. >> what is so interesting, george romney, mitt's father -- we are seeing the change of a republican party that has no room for a george romney. >> i mean, he is trying to channel -- >> you can talk the talk, but when you are not walking the walk -- >> listen he had kid rock on stage with him last night. if anything is going to lockup that vote, it's kid rock. game time, will santorum steal michigan from mitt romney? we will ask john ward when he joins us live from detroit. next on n.o.w. -- [ woman ] dear cat, your hair mixes with pollen and dust. i get congested.

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>> i'm pleased with the campaign, the organization, and the candidate sometimes makes mistakes, and so i'm trying do better, work harder, and make sure that we get our message across. >> that was mitt romney this morning at his michigan headquarters, shouldering the blame for his campaign's short comings, joining us from motor city, the senior reporter for the huffington post, john ward. john, whos that big momentum going into tonight, you are on the ground, tell us what is happening. >> it's even elusive to know that. alex, it's good to see you. but it seems like rick santorum has regained a bit of what he had lost maybe late last week

and then over the weekend. there was a weird sense yesterday in which he might have been stabilizing and the ppp polls overnight indicate that he may be regaining some momentum. and, you know, there's one or two other data factors. i think the sense that i got at mitt romney's event last night talking to some of his advisers and some of his aides was a little bit of unease, and i'm also hearing that there's a lot of e-mail going out and state republican officials, folks like sual, a former state party chair, really appreciapressurin state operatives saying let's get out the vote and make sure it's maximized. there's hints of anxiety on the romney side of how it will turn out. >> john, in terms of voters,

there's been so much back and forth, you said that santorum may have the big momentum. he has spent a lot of time with the social issues. on the ground in michigan, how much were people paying attention to the snobbery and wanting to send your kids to four-year colleges and so forth. >> there's maybe a couple of levels of folks that pay attention to that. the core activist base of the party, you know, goes online and reads through and parses and understanding, you know, basically the message that santorum is trying delivery to them, and a lot of them agree with it. the people it's a problem for are those that are reading the headlines and paying attention and getting their information that way. so, i think it's maybe not a huge problem for the primary but something he will have to confront in the general, that said, it's not going help him

with a large section of the primary voter population. we are just not sure how big that population is, i think. sgli sglipt -- i'm curious what chuck thinks. >> as am i. it's a tricky electorate, it's possible to win the popular vote. >> it's win or take all by congressional district and most of the delegates are distributed that way. 28 of the 30 will be distributed that way and two will be split statewide. you have to get 15%, but we know that santorum and romney will be the top two. it's frankly likely that santorum, romney's strength is around the suburbs, and places where he grew up, where santorum will do well is in the basically the rest of the state. you would assume -- but that is not the story tonight. the story is win or lose in that

popular vote. you know, this is santorum, this is about mitt romney. you cannot close the deal the horrible way that santorum has finished, it is -- you know, i don't think that we can over state the importance of this. it will be like a bomb went off inside the republican party establishment if romney blows this. do we see a new candidate? i doubt it because you wonder if the well is too poisoned, but i don't know if romney is the nominee. i really don't think we know. >> do you think that santorum will be let to be the nominee? >> who is let them? you have donor that are going rethink their money that they send to romney. they will have to feed the donors some sort of head. they will to quote, fire somebody, do something to

reassure donors. super tuesday is sitting there and that momentum and what do you do? and gingrich, if -- >> you do not hear cries, jeb, mitch, chris. i mean, help us. >> you'll hear the cries. >> don't you think that santorum could bring down the party house senate? >> there are some smart republicans that say, you know what? burn this down now. >> burn it down now. >> burn it down now because the worst case scenario is romney becoming the nominee. >> if you see santorum as the nominee, he goes down in flames, does a responsible republican party emerge from the ashes? the country deserves it. >> richard nixon came back from -- came back as the moderate candidate. >> before we talk about the republican party going up in

flamess give me time folks. romney has to win tonight and we saw signs with romney back track ago -- tracking a bit. the campaign is hedging its bets, let's listen to what romney has been saying. >> about two weeks ago, i was down 15 points in michigan and right now it looks like it's too close to call. i don't think that the pollsters know what will happen and i don't think that we can be 100% sure. but the fact that we have made up 15 points in two weeks is extraordinary. >> meanwhile, rick santorum is hedging his bets in his own way, obviously the pressure is not as great. he said yet, when asked about winning michigan, i don't even have dreams about that. the fact that we are in this like we are is a win for us already. robert, let's talk about mitt romney hedging his bets. is there anything that he can do at this point that will mitigate a loss tomorrow? >> no, no, the only thing he can do is wait and see.

i want go back to what chuck said, do you think there's a high probability of a contested convention in tampa? >> it not get that far simply because of the calendar. we have looked at it a million different ways. if you do it, and somebody else gets in, what you have to do is get a beach head of delegates. march 23rd is the biggest filing deadline. that's california, new jersey, and texas where filing deadlines have not passed. you go to the state conventions, go do it that way. you get a beach head of 700 or 800 delegate and you say have to cut a deal with santorum. it means kristi santorum. >> but honestly -- >> is anybody going to do anything unless romney pulls out of the race. >> mitt romney has been running for seven years, he will not get out easily. >> and i think it may ab romney santorum ticket. here is why.

santorum cannot win the state of pennsylvania. no question he cannot win the state. what he brings is socially to the table. that is what mitt romney needs right now. he needs somebody to close did deal, like sarah palin, not in the context of intellect and so forth, but what i'm talking about is the lack of passion that romney does not bring to the table. >> do you understand how extreme he is? he rejects the separation of church and state. satan is going to attack us, and higher four year community colleges are damaging to america. >> i do not buy that santorum has passion, what the passion is against romney here. it would bring more passion from the right on the ticket than santorum. >> as author -- he is authenti. thank you to chuck todd, don't

forget, chuck will be part of tonight's prime time primary coverage starting right here at this desk on msnbc -- >> i'm in the other room, believe it or not, there's no room at this desk. >> capacity full. at 8:00 p.m. eastern. after the break, who will win tonight? we will keep talking about that and we will make our predictions when we come back. next on "now."

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karen finney, we brought you on because your bets are right on. we have stacks of chinese american made currency. let's say they were made here for the sake of betting. who will win it tonight. we are asking you to bet, put fake money on it and a margin please. >> okay. oh, i'm going say romney pulls it out by a hair. i'll go all in. how about that. >> i like it. >> what will be more important and more interesting is what is the turnout, where is the turnout, that will tell us a lot more about what is really going on in the republican party, one of the most interesting things has been, unlike in 2008 with democrats, we with our contest, we had turn out going up and they have turnout going down. >> you do not have fake currency infront of you, but i ask you, sir, who will win this sir?

make a bet and a margin please. >> you know, i'll wage we are my courtyard marriott room key on -- >> is that more than what we have stacked on this desk. >> that is right, to make it interesting, i'll say santorum by one and i think the other thing is to look for is whether ron paul wins any congressional districts up by michigan state, because i think -- he had great crowds here in the state. thousands of people. >> a very good call, ron paul had one of the biggest nights of his life, over 3,000 people. robert traynham, where do you go? >> i think that ron paul eeks out two or three e -- votes. i think that santorum will pull it out probably by about 2% points. >> are you saying because you worked for him? >> no, because has always been the underdog and people say he does not know what he is talking

b there are thousands of people that resonate to that message and thousands more people, and maybe millions more -- >> and you are betsing that the people of michigan are those people that it raise nates well. steve kornacki, where do you go? >> three bets, the votes that are cast today, santorum wins, convincingly. but early voting favored romney, so i'm going say you factor in the early voting, and mitt romney gets a small victory. but my third bet, totally impossible to prove, but the win for mitt romney does not matter. we go into next week and everyone said he safed his campaign tonight, but he loses georgia and tennessee and oklahoma and he loses ohio next week. >> you have anything katrina? >> i don't bet. >> but she just stole my money.

>> good job. >> we have to go break -- >> i just hope that we pull this country out of this election so it's not scarred for generations to come by -- no seriously by someone like a rick santorum who makes barry goldwater look extreme, our country can do better. >> and we will talk more about where the country is going, we will not talk about bets, we are done with them. thank you to john ward in detroit, coming up. santorum appeals to his base, is his focus on social issues that matter most to him more of a high risk gamble or part of a brilliant strategy? answers next on "now."ith cottrr streaming quotes, any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start.

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of church and state, i'm for separation of church and state, the state has no business telling the church what to do. now we are lowering the standard of living and causing unemployment, why would a president do that? except he is so fixated and the people say the president is justin competent, no he is not. he believes that this is a good thing for americans. i didn't buy into this global or climate science. we are not going go along with this another attempt by the left to have junk science to take over people's lives. >> we were talking about the direction of the country and puni you know, you listen to what santorum is saying, it's no longer liberals or lefties that look at this stuff and their eyebrows are raised, but even folks on the right. i have to call attention to the david brooks in the "new york

times" today saying first they went after the rockefellor republican but i was not one, and then they went after the mainstream conservatives and there was no one left to speak for me. this is strong rhetoric from david brooks. >> their people like jennifer rubin, who was in the last week talking about rick santorum as an extremist reactionary, not a conservative. there's a need for a powerful conservative strand but rick santorum is bringing into the mainstream of this republican primary ideas that are truly fringe. i mean, when you listen to him talk about president kennedy's important hallooed 1960s speech on the separation of church and state, one of the great chi achievements of this country. and he says it makes him sick.

he is lying when he said that the president is deliberating lowering the standard of living. these are issues that will not go away after if election. >> i think, here is the thing, i think it's worse than that. i think it's more viciously dividing than. he knows whole is speaking to when he said things like barack obama wants to remake you in his image, that is bible cal language. blaming john f kennedy for suggesting that people of faith have no place in the public square. where was that feeling when muslims wanted to build a cultural center near ground zero to promote understanding. he know what's is doing and who he is targeting. it's dog whistle politics, and

it it's sdrukt i have -- it's damaging to the country. >> you look at the direction in which rick santorum pushes the country, the race if not the country, how can this be seen as anything by suicidal? >> i do not know if there's an answer so that. the question is where do we want to go as a party. kathleen parker said something interesting over the weekend. she said people as conservatives love him and they admire that he stands up for what he believes in and karen and i were talking about this, at least he is consistent, you can disagree with what he stands for, but he is consistent with what he says, anyway, back to kathleen parker. she said -- >> okay. >> conservatives really like him a lot, but he doesn't have an

off switch, it's okay that you think that but your words have weight, for you to say something like that that is so hurtful to a degree is wrong. >> if this was piece meal stuff, this feels like a strategy to target a specific audience. >> they think you are below us, he is a snob. i mean -- >> i think what he is talking about is two realities in the republican party. one is demographic. -- this is a part in the election, 40% of the republican party identified themselves as evangelical christians, look where the numbers are shifting. georgia around 70%, that is who is he talking to. the second piece is how the party elites and leaders of the party are reacting to it, they

are not having the reaction that robert just had and that has everything to do with what happened in 2010, with the rise of the tea party, that panicked republican party elites that we cannot boss the base around, if we say something and say one thing on one issue that rubs them the next way, we are the next robert bennett. so they cannot speak up. >> and that is -- >> they have been -- but karen, you know this better than anyone. they have been cowed. to have back in history. rick santorum is more fundamentalists, we have seen it in our history, joe mccarthy, the -- these are strands that we saw -- saw in the tea party. the tea party was about debt and deficits, it's interesting how it switched out and you do not see the leaders of that

movement, like paul ryan playing center stage. >> you do not see any of the establishment, eleskted gop talking about it. john heileman has a story and jonathan said as conservative ls tell you there are now more than "them" than us, obama lost the over 45-year-old voters, and -- >> this is an important point because in 2008, you had more people under 30 voting than seniors voting that, was the first time in our history, actually, despite the knocks that they get, the youth vote has been increasing and they are a much more tolerant, even though that consider themselves republicans and independent, they are more tolerant and diverse, they are browner, and

the way they think of their lives is different. they do not say, why do i care who you marry? this dog whistle politics does not appeal to them. the republican party, i guess i put it back to you, and i do not mean to make you speak for them, that is the way of the world, that is the way the country is going, i see a smaller and smaller group of people clinging and holding on to a 1950s re reality that is gone, and not accept thanksgiving you have to change -- accepting that you have to change with the times. >> i'm black, i'm gay and i'm out. for someone -- >> and what seat do you have at the republican party table? >> for someone to look like me and or not look like me and speak for me is uncomfortable.

for people like me who do not believe some of the things that our party leaders say, the only thing we can do is continue to speak out and say, with all do respect, you had your time, and thus in the process we will change. the question is, i do not live in michigan, arizona, tennessee or georgia,vy to respect the fact that people that do not look like me are voting in these primaries and thus in the process they are voting for -- or at least the polls suggest they are votesing for someone like santorum. i do like it? no, but i have to respect that there are individuals that are more conservative than i am on this issue. >> fears and anxiety of a country they no longer recognize are slipping away. >> rather than trying to -- the question is, robert, how long do you stay seated at that table?

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one student is dead and another has been declared brain dead after a 17-year-old opened fire yesterday at a high school in ohio. nearly five years ago, a shooting spree at virginia tech claimed 32 victims, colin goddard survived four gun shots that day, he is part of a new documentary called living for 32. >> i was one of a group of students that survived. people tell me that god was looking after me that day. that is why i'm here. i just got lucky. >> here with us is colin, thanks

for joining the show. >> thanks for having me. >> when you heard about what happened in ohio yesterday, colin, what were your initial thought? >> i heard about it, even through the progress i've made, i feel brought back to day one when i see news coverage of another shooting like this. it's the same images, students running out of buildings and candles lit at night. why can't we do something about this? there are a ridiculous amount of young americans that are killed by guns every year and every other issue is looked at as to kbr this could happen instead of the gun and the person itself. >> colin, you know, these events capture the national imagination and certainly the news cycle and yet, when it comes down to legislation, in virginia, after

the virginia tech shooting, the virginia governor has considered signing a bill that would allow people to purchase more than one gun at a time. does it surprise you that the bar may be moving backwards? >> it's frustrating, but i'm not the only person frustrated. it's just a mess. people agree with that. our focus is to mobilize the american people t ones who are literally being killed, burying their neighbors and plofed ones and the ones that have to confront the issue on a daily basis. >> according to the brady center, today, there were -- sorry, thus far this year, 15,799 people were shot this year and 139 people shot today. these are staggering statistics. i want to open it up to the panel. we talk about the political

movement, but it's important to mention that our own promise came intoes of promising to close a loophole that would allow people at gun shows to buy guns without background checks. in fact, as part of the credit card legislation, gun owners were given the right to carry concealed weapons in national parks. why does nothing ever happen? >> we got it to earlier. when we talked about how critical all these rust belt states would be. if santorum wins he made a strong appeal on gun rights and playing up nra membership and support and all that. democrats seem to make a decision as a national party to compete in those states they were going to you know, maybe say is right words to their

base, but they were not going the pick any fights. >> there's a roll for sane gun policy, there's a difference between having a hunting rifle and assault weapons. even dick cheney wondered why any sane person would need to be able to fire off 30 clips in a few minutes. that is for -- so you could see a coalition with leadership from people like mayor bloomberg play ago central role, you need the grassroots alive. >> as a democrat and former spokes person for the party. democrats need to step up to the plate. steve is right. we have been cowards on this, we need to change the conversation to talk about, you know, it gets put to an either/or politics, we have the second amendment, we can be in line with the second amendment and protect our

children. so that you are not worried that your children are on lock down. there has to be a way. >> it's interesting how powerful the nra is in washington. not just with republicans but with democrats from the south. take a look. how hard is it for a moderate democrat from arkansas or georgia to vote for gun legislation, it's difficult for that person from a culture standpoint. it's difficult, republicans and democrats are coward on this. it's because they have not stood up to the nra. >> you are one of the few standing up for this, we thank you for joining the program. i'm sorry we have to cut it off there. we will pay close attention to your work in the brady campaign and thank you for joining us. it will be time for postscript, next on "now." hi, coming up next on "andrea mitchell reports" mitt

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create chaos, as such there was no way for them to insulate themselves. the only protection against gun violence is in the end the law. and yet, in the same states that have seen the country's worse gun crimes, colorado, virginia and ohio, state legislators have tried to weaken gun control, making it easier to purchase multiple firearms or eliminate background checks. of course, guns do not kill. people do. but then again, when children are relying on the state to ensure their safety, those in power must do everything to keep them out of harm's way. standing up to the vocal, but certainly not all powerful gun lobby would be a good place to start. that is all for "now." i want no thank our panel today, robert, katrina, karen and steve, i'll see you back here tomorrow at noon eastern when i'm joined by a new panel.

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