tv Martin Bashir MSNBC March 1, 2012 3:00pm-4:00pm EST
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defeated a republican amendment that would have pushed women's reproductive rights far back into the last century. the blunt amendment wasn't just the latest battle line, it was a conservative line that you did not cross. the well-oiled weather vain that is mitt romney didn't get the memo. a reporter in ohio asked a simple question. do you support the blunt amendment? in the case of a severely conservative candidate, one would expect the appropriate response. >> i'm not for the bill. >> you're what? >> i'm not for the bill. >> he's flipped back to reality. well, for a moment. he always turns back into the pumpkin. >> i didn't understand his
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question. i thought he have talking about a state law that prevented people from getting contraceptions. >> conservatives have heard this one before. on all matters conservative mitt appears to struggle with his team's play book. on coach reagan, there's this. >> i was an independent during the time of reagan-bush. i'm not trying to return to reagan-bush. >> i can't think of anything that ronald reagan stood for that isn't just as applicable today. >> nancy and friends may have trouble with that one. >> there's video tape of you going back years speaking about different issue, climate change, abortion, immigration, gay rights, how can voters trust what they hear from you today is what you will believe if you were in the white house? >> you're list is just not accurate. one, we're going to have to be better informed about my views on issues.
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>> honestly, do you realize how much paper we get from keeping up with your positions. as we look forward to super tuesday in the all-important race for ohio. let's remember mitt's comments, i do, i don't and i'm just confused. i'll let rush explain. >> romney expressed generic support to you are tail union rights, but he would not say whether he supports or opposes the specific measures in the reform plan. what's the reluctance of getting behind these? >> control that blood pressure. >> i'm sorry if i created confusion in that regard. i fully support question two in ohio. >> sorry for the confusion. sounds like it should be the campaign's new bumper sticker. romney is trying to convince the base he's one of them.
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yet, ohio voters don't seem to be buying it. the latest polls have him down by 11 points. mitt romney severely conservative, severely incapable of holding a single position for more than 25 minute, which is why i need to offer this warning to our facebook friends. note, if you're watching this later online, mitt's position may have changed since our live broadcast. joining us now is david corn, an msnbc political analyst and goldie taylor. she's with me here in new york. david, i have to start with you. we know that mitt romney holds the record for the number of positions held by a single politician from immigration to contraception. is it possible to say he can lay claim to the fastest flip-flop in living memory? one minute he doesn't support the blunt amendment. 20 minutes later he does.
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>> i'd say i can't explain or maybe won't get fooled again. >> pinball wizard. >> he bounces around so much and you watch the lights go off. when ghets in these situations, look into his eyes. it's almost like looking into the sun, you're not supposed to do it. there's a moment of controlled panic as the gears wear about and he tries to figure out where to land. at this stage of game, i don't know what you, i, goldie or anyone should be saying about his flip-flops. at some point, this may be his -- the card up his sleeve. when he needs to pivot to the middle when he wins the nomination, everybody know what is he says now, he doesn't really mean. that's one reason he's having
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trouble. down the road he can say, you were right. >> isn't this the fundamental problem with this man? he can't connect because he has no convictions. there's no core. there just isn't a core. 25 minutes and he changes his position on the blunt amendment. >> you and i had this conversation. this is the very reason conservatives never bought mitt romney in the first place. this is why they never trusted him. that's why the tea partiers looked at him and shrugged. you can't trust his position from one day to the next. now we know from one hour to the next. >> our 25 minutes. david, ohio is the second biggest delegate hall. santorum is cleaning house by 11 points in the latest ohio poll. do michigan and arizona give romney enough juice or do you think that this is a much more
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difficult situation for romney going forward notwithstanding the fact he won michigan and arizona? >> my guess is he'll get a post-michigan bump and things will tighten up. every non-romney candidate have him down in the polls. it dupts look so good. voters get confused twheen and romney. the interesting thing is that romney did what he had to do in the year, in the months and years up to iowa this year to sort of win over the right. i really bet that he and the rest of his crew thought it would be over quickly. as people were paying attention, particularly independents and nondie hard republicans, then there's a subtle way, but this
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is getting drawn out because of super pacs and because he couldn't pull it off. again and again it's dragging on, this back and forth flip-flop. the longer this goes on, the harder he'sgoing to have making that sale that he's really not as extreme to those independent to the middle of the road voters. >> we have some shocking numbers from a university of cincinnati poll. santorum carrying women voters by almost 20 points. i have to repeat that, 20 points. can you explain that? why would women rush to support rick santorum given what he said in the last two weeks? >> i lived in ohio for a little while and in cincinnati. it is a largely, very conservative state. cincinnati is one of the only urban economic centers in this country that is run largely by conservative republicans. you have a very different breed.
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you have a strong evangelical base in ohio. that's the kind of vote that santorum can count on. i think it's going to tighten up over the coming day ds, but this is an opportunity for santorum to really make stand. if he doesn't, it's time to go home in. >> in ohio, multiple numbers of women would like to take the issue of contraception back to 1953, taking the view that their best place is in the home and shouldn't find fulfillment in the workplace? >> you're going find a lot of traditionalist in the heart there. you're going to find a lot of people that believe that contraception is something that's sinful. you will find people that will will think the woman's place is in the home. you'll find a lot more evangelicals in ohio. it's a very, very conservative place to be. mitt romney will have a difficult time.
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>> that's 20% among republicans. you have this great evangelical and mega churches there. he's coming across as a solid family man. if you listen to his stories about his kid, it's very traditional. it has an appeal. >> republicans are firing up the president and it's not just about the blunt amendment. here he is a short time ago. listen to this. >> the lead in one new story said, and i'm quoting here, gasoline prices are on the rise and republicans are licking their chops. licking their chops. let me tell you. only in politics do people respond to bad news with such enthusia enthusiasm. >> david, following on from that it's been suggested that accusing this president of causing the rise in gas prices is the equivalent of suggesting
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that rudy giuliani provoked anything else. the president looks as though he thinks he can win this argument, but can he? >> it depends how high gas prices go. if they hit $6 a gallon, i'm not predicting that, then it will be bad for the president whatever he says. there's some political scientists who track gas prices over the years and find they have a direct correlation to electoral outcomes. he needs to fight this to a draw. conservatives throughout who are angling they can for iran are doing all they can to raise gasoline prices. >> if you listen to rick santorum and mitt romney, they get pretty close to suggesting that we should go bomb the straits of hormuz. what would happen then? >> if you discount the tensions that we have around the world in ie roon and alran and also in s
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discount a lot of those other thing, you can't put this on the back of this president or any other. if the president could control the supply and price of gas, jimmy carter would have had a second term. >> these guys talk about the markets. they love the markets. this is what the markets doing to us. it's raising the price of gas. >> shut up, david. we don't like the markets. stay with us. we have much more ahead. >> show the american people that uch a lot of heart and you love americans. >> we stand there all in our suits and all wearing white shirts, blue suit, black shoes and either a red or a blue tie. it's settings like that why people don't get to know you very well. ♪ man: 1939 -- my parents ran across an ad for a hot dog cart. my mother said, "well, maybe we ought to buy this hot dog cart and set it up someplace."
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republicans in the house have chosen an odd way to inaugurate women's history month, an important event in the calendar. despite polls showing that the vast majority of americans support the contraception mandate, gop senators held a vote today to offer an amendment that would allow employers to opt out for any religious or moral reason. thankfully, they failed. the senate voting the 51-48 against the blunt amendment. joining us is karen basser. >> i understand congresswoman that there is republican disdain pr the president's reform of health care. i get it. it's a principaled argument. what i cannot understand is how senator blunt proposing an amendment when the vast majority of women, the vast majority of
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catholic women use contraception as part of their daily lives. why would he seek an amendment that would deny women something they have been using for decades? >> i just think it's incredible, and it is an irony this is taking place during women's health month. these are issues that have been settled decades ago and the idea that we're still talking about them, makes the argument for why there needs to be more women in congress. out of 435 members of congress there's 72 women. if there were, this bill wouldn't have been brought up. >> do you buy senator blunt's argument that this is about c conscience? it's nothing to do with how a woman looks after herself and what birth control method she uses. >> it has everything to do with the woman's right to choose. it's also based in basic know rans. let me give you an example.
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birth control pills are used for a variety of different reasons, including cancer prevention. you've going to leave it to an employer to say i don't want my employees to have birth control and prevent them from accessing health care that has nothing to do with reproduction. it has nothing to do with sex. it's really a lot based out of ignorance. >> what is birth control got to do with the interstate highway system? a part from some vulgar analogy that's about putting a car in the lane, why did republicans try to sneak this onto a transportation bill? >> i think that's been consistent. i've been here since last january, and we are much more used to it happening in the house where they have attached their idealogical agenda to
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everything under the sun. women's health has been an obsession since january of last year. i can't tell you how many times i've had to vote against family planning, birth control, reproductive rights. it's been attached to all kind of bills. >> i'm sorry to raise this with you. a number of your own party voted in support of the blunt amendment. are you disappointed that they chose to oppose the president and the majority in the senate or is this about their own favor. >> i'm disappointed in anybody that would vote for something so observe. you say you p don't want government intervention, but why is it that you choose to focus on women. there's no excuse for that. i am disappointed in members of
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my own party and my republican colleagues that would take time away from a needed bill to provide jobs around the country to focus on an issue like this that was settled so many decades ago. >> the president and some catholic leaders called the mandate a compromise. listen to what senator minority leader said about it this morning. >> that isn't a compromise. that's another government takeover. this time it isn't the banks or the car company, it's religion. >> again, how does a person honestly compare a woman's reproductive system to the auto industry? are ovaries now the gearbox? what is this about? >> i think it just shows the absurdity. you would think from his statement that what was mandated was that every woman has to use birth control providing access, access means you can say yes,
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industry to china or germany because some politicians in washington refuse to make the same commitment here in the united states of america. >> that was the president speaking just moments ago at a community college in new hampshire outlining his policies on domestic energy and his plans to develop clean sources of power. joining us from the white house is michael viqueira. this was the president's second visit to new hampshire in just three months. does he love the place, as many of us do, or is this an eye on the election. >> reporter: he must love the snow. there was a blizzard up there in new hampshire. they had three inches on the ground as he landed. he's not going to seed new hampshire to mitt romney or whoever the republican nominee ends up being. nbc calls it a battleground this
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year. he being from neighboring massachusetts, of course the governor there proposes or presents a threat or political threat to the president. speaking of threats to the president and threats to the economic recovery, you see the president hitting republicans hard on their drill, drill, drill philosophy as the president put it. those rises gas prices are something that the white house and the president are watching very carefully. they realize there's a full vulnerability there. the president hitting it hard today and bringing on one more proposal. you heard the $4 billion in subsidies that are given to the oil companies as they continue to rake in record profits. the president wants congress to vote on that in the coming weeks to repeal the subsidies. not warm reception coming from the speakers office. >> i'm not sure. the mitt romney has personal ties to the state. is this another shadow play by the president putting his own marker down where he knows mr.
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from bibles and guns to garbage bags and race cars. today's top lines comes in like a lion. >> he said he was for that. >> i'm not for the bill. the idea of presidential candidates getting into questions about contraception within a relationship between a man and a woman, husband and wife, i'm not going there. >> of course, i support the blunt amendment. i thought he was taulking abouta state law from preventing people from getting contraception. i really misunderstood the we. >> contraception, it's working just fine. >> i'm not going there. >> i'm sorry if i created a confusion. >> you said you were all right.
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>> i am all right. >> what do you make of this republican infighting? >> i think it's terrible. >> rick santorum is an economic lightweight. sgh happiness is not doing what you want to do but doing what you ought to do. >> ie won a garbage bag for rain gear. >> obama care versus romney care and the issue of government controlling your lives. >> i believe in the second amendment. i have guns myself. >> i loves my gun. loves my gun. >> not going to tell you where th they are. >> i'm not a big game hunter. i've always been, if you will, a rodent and rabbit hunter. >> let's bring in our ace political panel.
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krystal ball and jonathan capehart. we've been following the contraception battle in congress. rush limbaugh's comments about sandra fluke who was courageous enough as both of us know to testify in favor of the need for contraception. just a few minutes ago rush limbaugh doubled down on his own thoughts by saying this. so miss fluke and the rest of you, here is the deal. if we're going to pay for your contraceptive and pay for you to have sex, we want something for it. we want you to post the videos online so we can all watch. that's a direct quotation. krystal. i'm speechless. >> it's despicable and disgusting and coming from a loathsome individual who has no
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idea the class and the courage that it took for her to testify. don't forget, he obviously, did not listen to her testimony or doesn't care what was in her testimony because what she spoke about is a friend who lost an ovary because she could not afford birth control. this isn't just about contraception. this is about women's health. he should keep it up because he's making our case for us about how extreme and ob noxious the republican position is. >> we know that rush limbaugh is a particularly individual, but what do you think he means by he wants to watch students use the contraception pill? >> i have no idea. >> can you speculate? >> i'm not going to go into speculate or try to get inside the head of rush limbaugh or why he would say deplorable comments
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like that about a college student who is talking about something not just contraception but women's health. i'm really troubled and sadnded by the coursening of political discourse. there's a way to talk about these things without being hateful or rude or derogatory against people. rush limbaugh is on the other side of the contraception issue. for him to go down this low road, it's low even for him. >> that speaking something. it almost feels as though this young woman is disqualified because she's a student and because we don't want, according to to some republican candidates, for our young people to go to university. she talks about birth control. no one should have the right to birth control and of course, she's a woman. >> yeah. rush limbaugh is a bully. that's what he is trying to do. he's trying to shame her. he's already called her a shut.
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he made another comment that he would pay for as much aspirin as georgetown students want to put between their knees. he's a loathsome individual. it's the same tactics though used generally in a more subtle way that are used to undermine females in the public space all the time. i have to applaud sandra fluke for her courage in putting herself forward. she hadded to have known that things would be thrown at her, unfair accusations. this sort of slamming and shaming would be headed her way. >> let's move on for a moment. in terms of fund raising, rick santorum raised something like $2 million in a year, but in the last month he raised $9 million. $9 million. do you think mitt romney is beginning to feel the heat of his breath on the back of his shoulder? >> i bet he is. remember on tuesday night during his sort of victory speech in michigan, for the first time, at least that i've heard, he asked
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for financial help. he asked for people to go to his campaign website and donate. rick santorum raised $9 million in february. it's not clear how much money he has left on hand because the michigan race was such a closely fought race. for mitt romney to be rattling the tin cup, mitt romney who we have been saying is the guy with a lot of money, for him to be facing super tuesday and rattling the tin cup should be cause for concern for a lot of people supporting mitt romney. >> santorum and romney now appear to be whining and complaining about the unprecedented amount of money that's being spent. listen to this. >> a single billionaire responsible for the lion share of the funding of the super pacs and that that a big impact. >> i don't have billionaires
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giving me tens of billions of dollars in super pacs. we raise $9 million in the last month. >> who's foster friess then? >> all i can say is you reap what you sow. they were all in favor of the citizens eunited decision. they are just trying to score political points here. one other thing about mitt romney's campaign and financial issues, i don't think they will be downgrading to the super 8 motel any time soon. he can kick in his own money. >> sure. >> 70% of his donors are maxed out. that's why he's having to go to smaller donors. 70% of his donors cannot give anymore. he's got to open up the pool if he isn't going to kick this any of his own money. >> stay with us.
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thank you for the moment. next, rick santorum one-on-one. stay with us. >> you're going to say things that you look and say, well, maybe i should have used a different term. people are upset. they know this country is in trouble. they want someone that will gop out there and fight against obama. ♪ [ young man ] whoo-hoo! ♪ so soon you'll take me there he is! the party's arrived. ♪ [ both hiss ] [ screaming, explosions ] oh, he-- [ crickets chirping ] [ owl hooting ] [ gasps ] ♪ fate ♪ up against your will ♪ through the thick and thin ♪ up against your will
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romney would hurt the very institutions that conservatives need to thriver in order to shrink government. >> while we're going to shift, again, which is already being done, shicht more tax to higher incomes. he does it in way that's particularly damaged by limiting the deductibility of certain things, particularly charitable deductions. he's undermining the very institutions that have to be growing if we're going to reduce the size of the government. >> john, is he serious? i recollect that in 2010, mr. santorum gave 1.7% of his income to charity. the president gave over 14%. >> well, rick santorum made the point to me that he was one of those politician, unlike governor romney who needed the paycheck when he was in office, and even though he's making more money in the private sector, i think he has the mentality of somebody that doesn't well for
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much of his life in terms of making a lot of money. he believes strongly in this between the public and private sector. he says president obama doesn't believe in the private sector and deliberately putting people on government entitlement programs. that gives you insight into his mind set. >> take a look at tht photo. this is rick santorum during his frat days. he's smoking a pipe with fall beard. how does that square with man that calls the president a snob to undergo americans to undergo further training. >> he looks like one of newt gingrich's radicals there. >> he does. what do you think, john? >> i'm without words.
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>> what did you think? >> i've not seen that image. i'm sure that rick santorum has evolved politically like many people have. you remember some of the photos, there's an iconic photo of president obama dragging on a cigarette. i think rick santorum is somebody in the same boat. his views and probably his lifestyle. >> john, imagine the old spice man on campus. >> exactly. >> you got to do better than one word, john. i'm giving up on john. >> i'm tempted to make some rush limbaugh college student sex tape thing, but i'm not going to go there. >> don't go there. seriously, there he is. he looks very tranquil. he looks like a college professor. i suspect he had a good time when he was at college even
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though he doesn't want others to have the same. >> when did he get so angry. it's like everything out of his mouth is so angry. it's almost like he's a victim and under such assault. that's the piece that has in some ways played well for him in the primary because there's an angry section of the republican electorate. when you look at him as a candidate, he's got to offer something other than anger. he has to have a positive vision for the future other than let's keep letting rich people deduct their charitable contributions. >> there was something interesting i asked him. he talk ld about, i believe in letting markets work. i said, aren't you challenging the settled marketplace of ideas on contraception, on church and
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state and j.f.k. and college education. he said not all those things are settled. he said there's still a fight to be had on faith in the public square. i said contraception is settled, don't you think? he said it may be settled. i'm not questioning that, but it's offensive to say i can't express my personal views about it. >> indeed. even if they come from the 13th century. thank you very much. stay with us. one phillips' coloh probiotic cap a day helps defend against digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. hit me! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm. for half the calories plus veggie nutrition. could've had a v8.
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we're back talking rush limbaugh's comments regarding georgetown's student, sandra fluke. he's ramped up the rhetoric saying so many fluke and the rest of you, here's the deal. if we're going to pay for your contracepti contraceptive, we want something for it. we want you to post the videos online so we can catch.
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gwen moore join us. to the comments of one rush limbaugh in relation to that student? >> i think it's absolutely outrayhouse. notwithstanding his right to free speech, i think he stepped clearly over the line and then doubled down to really change the subject. the subject is about women's health, contraception, and to put this in the realm of this distinguished woman and calling her names and saying we want a sexual life being posted online, it really changes the conversation. the conversation ought to be about preserving women's health. 30 years is an awful long time for women to be subject to pregnancy. women need contraception to be healthy. not only that, but contraception is used for many other health
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conditions that only women get such as the development of cysts, which miss fluke was testifying about in front of a panel that leader pelosi put together. even my 70-plus-year-old sister was prescribed birth control pills for a bleeding condition she had recently. it's absolutely outrageous. i hope the advertisers that sponsor rush limbaugh will consider pulling their support from him. >> it does seem incredible. because sandra fluke was representing a friend of hers. and that friend had a medical problem that required the contraceptive pill. it was not primarily about preventing reproduction. it was about a problem with an ovary. and yet for some reason, mr. limbaugh, and let's be frank here. he enjoys popularity among a
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broad sweep of republicans. he feels he has the right to denigrate her and to suggest that he would like to watch porn movies of her in action. >> you know, you're absolutely right, martin. and i think that this is what the republican party with their network of talk shows and talk radios and their power to purchase this air time have been able to accomplish. they have been able to change the conversation. this is all about women's health. this particular woman that sandra fluke was talking about ended up having her ovary removed because she did not have the prescribed birth control pills that she needed to control this cystic condition. and i hope that people will punish those advertisers that continue to have this really, i don't want to call him names,
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first, mr. romney is indemicily wealthy. he always reveals the fact that he knows nothing about the economic struggles of ordinary americans. and that's because he's been wealthy for the vast majority of his life. now, that's no crime. it's just a fact. but it does affect his behavior. that's why he keeps saying things like, i like firing people. my wife has a couple of cadillacs. some of my close friends are nascar team owners. and i like those fancy raincoats. really sprung for the big bucks. every word is a ringing endorsement of his own wealth. he can't stop himself from revealing he owns multiple cars, multiple homes, multiple asets. the second and most disturbing is that mr. romney is entirely suggestible. he gives people what he thinks they want to hear. within the space of 20 minutes,
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he can say this. >> i'm not for the bill, but the idea of presidential candidates getting into questions about contraception within a relationship between a man and a woman, i'm not going there. >> but within minutes, an aide comes forward saying romney does support the amendment. but does he? we can't be sure. because mr. romney isn't sure. because he only says what he thinks is required in the circumstance. there's no connection because there's no call. there's no conviction. nobody really knows what he believes. so he's indemicily wealthy and entirable suggestible. while wealth never qualified anyone for public office, i'm beginning to wonder if being without any core convictions actually disqualifies him from becoming president. thanks so much for watching. baring with my bad throat.
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dylan ratigan is here to take us forward. >> i see you decided to show up. >> you're as sympathetic as always. >> i couldn't help but notice. are you dying? should we be concerned about your well being? >> that would be an exaggeration. >> so get it together then. the world is on fire. we need your help. you're one of the greatest journalists in the world. we need you not in bed with the flu, but at work lay iing down e law just like you just did. no one else can do it. you torched mitt romney there with intellectual brilliance. you have a beautiful purple tie. and that's why you have to show up to work. >> dylan, please start with your show. my temperature is rising. i need to take my medication and need to be back tomorrow. thank you. god bless you. >> show starts now.
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