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suddenly what's happening at the supreme court right now, the final full day of historic arguments on the obama health care law seems all the more important. front and center today. whether the entire law can survive if justices rule the individual mandate is unconstitutional. and if yesterday's line of questioning by the court is any indication, the mandatory health insurance requirement is in real danger of being struck down. >> do you not have the heavy burden of justification to show authorization under the constitution? >> can the government require you to buy a cell phone because that would facilitate responding when you need emergency services? >> everybody has to buy food sooner or later. so you define the market as food. everybody's in the market, therefore you can make people buy broccoli. >> i'm joined now by the professor at georgetown law center and a former clerk to thurgood marshall. good morning, good to see you. >> good morning.
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>> i'm sure you know there's been a lot of hang wringing. they're worried after hearing what the justices said, some of the questions that they're leaning towards striking down an individual mandate. do you think that's the case? or are you in the team that thinks, well, the justices have surprised before in cases like this? >> well, i was at the argument, and i was concerned that there was a lot of hand wringing by the -- by kennedy and roberts. and those are the key votes that the government has to convince that they want to uphold this law. but i do believe that you can't tell that much from an argument. you can tell what is bothering the justices and get a sense of how they're leaning, but the fine wrangling going on at the end of the week when they're trying to decide it, it's hard to read the tea leaves on that. >> and there's been criticism about the performance of the government's lawyer, the solicitor general, the new
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yorker's jeffrey toobin tweets, train wreck for barack obama today. the new republic stands foster. wow, does the solicitor general know the orals were today? what do you think? did you think he had a bad day? >> i do think he's had better days. i think this argument is going on in part monday, tuesday, and wednesday of this week. and he elected to take on the arguments for all three days. i think he's given a part of today's argument away. but for the most part, he's doing all of it. and it's really hard to argue in the supreme court. and i guess i'd say in hindsight he should've shared the load a little better. >> let me ask you really quickly just because so many people wrote they wished there had been television in the courtroom just for this one argument. what was the feeling like inside that room? was it electric in there? >> it was electric in a sort of a quiet way.
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i mean, everyone was sitting on the edge of their seat. many of the congressmen had come from across the street to see it. i was sitting right behind lindsey graham. and it didn't -- i mean usually there's some chuckles, the justices make some funny remarks. there was less of that yesterday. it was very serious. >> fascinating stuff, professor, thank you so much. and now i want to bring in congressman gerald nadler a democrat from new york and congressman republican from louisiana. good to see both of you, good morning. >> good morning. >> how concerned are you about the future of the health care law? >> well, i'm concerned, you start off with very, very conservative justices who have shown a willingness to depart from the court's precedence in rather dramatic fashion. some concern, i agree with the professor you're interviewing, you can't always tell much from
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questioning because someone can be questioning very hard to test the metal of the arguments and it remains to be seen. >> congressman, you have kind of a unique perspective, you're a former heart surgeon, and we heard from supporters of the health care law this morning, there are protesters out again outside the supreme court today. one retired postal worker whose wife is in a nursing home being treated for alzheimer's, following the accident, take a listen. >> without medicaid, there would be no way that i could pay for it. it pays for her health care and allows me to see the woman i've been married to and is part of me and my life for more than half a century. >> there was a woman yesterday. it was very moving, she talked about stage three breast cancer and the law allowed her to save her house and saved her life. what do you say to people like
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that if the individual mandate is struck down? are there other parts of the law, for example, that should be upheld? give me your take on this. >> well, we do know there's a problem that existed before with pre-existing conditions. but we think there are different ways to do this that perhaps would not put as much burden on the system and create as much cost. at the same time, keep in mind that expansion of medicaid is going to be deeply problematic because the medicaid reimbursement are not meeting costs in many, many instances right now. so hospitals and physicians are curtailing the number of medicaid patients they will see. i think this is going to continue to create more problems and more backlogs in emergency rooms. i have deep concerns about that as someone who has practiced medicine and seen the entire spectrum of what happens in health care system. >> of course, senator mcconnell admitted that the republicans have no alternative whatsoever. and i find it deeply ironic that one of the plaintiffs in this
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case who is a plaintiff against the individual mandate because she wouldn't need it has declared personal bankruptcy because of medical expenses she couldn't meet. you know, 55% of all personal bankruptcies in this country are because of medical expenses and 75% of the people go bankrupt have insurance but inadequate insurance, and that's what this bill is designed to solve. those two problems. >> yes, congressman, what is the alternative? >> the fact of the matter is, we have a cost problem and it's not solved by this. cost and quality have to go together. and i am deeply concerned about the acceleration and cost that we're going to see as a result of this. the individual mandate knows you advocate by saying you put everybody in, will solve the cost. that's not the case in medicare where everybody's in yet the costs are exorbitant. >> the question of medicare is going up 1.2% a year more slowly with the cost of private care. >> it's still driving our
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deficit. >> it is not driving our deficit. it's the cost of medical care generally. >> no -- >> secondly, where this kind of system was tried, where governor romney is now running away from it tried this and put in a very similar system in massachusetts. costs have gone down -- >> costs have not gone down. >> they've gone down 40%, gone up by 14%. >> costs have gone up in massachusetts and that's been the problem with the program. >> costs have gone down by 40%. >> if you keep in mind what cbo said about the medicare program. clearly the payroll tax is not covering the explosion in the cost of the program. this is a major driver of our federal deficits. there are things we can do that will fix the program, preserve medicare and protect it. >> the cbo has said -- the congressional budget office who is non partisan said that the cost of this program, the affordable care act, obama care
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will reduce the deficit over time and will -- and the entire cost will be about $50 billion over 2012 to 2022 time period, less than was forecast in a forecast that would reduce the deficit. >> well, i have to dispute that. the congressional budget office came out with revised figures two years later before even the implementation. they're estimating a cost that's significantly higher. >> no, lower, and the untruth that you just heard which has been repeated by the chairman of the budget committee is the budget is higher because they go two years farther out. but the same ten-year period is $40 billion lower than anticipated. >> thanks so both of you. part of the debate that continues to go on even as the supreme court is hearing these arguments today. there is another story everybody seems to be talking about this morning. passengers had to tackle a jetblue pilot who was having some kind of inflight meltdown when he was supposed to be flying the plane. right now the captain is under
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arrest and being medically checked out. live in washington, d.c. for us. tom, what happened? >> reporter: hi, this is a 12-year captain, veteran of jetblue airlines and appears he suffered some sort of a breakdown. as you mention ed, he's now in amarillo in the custody of the fbi and charged with interfering with a flight crew. >> please remain seated with the seat belt fastened. >> pinned under the weight of half dozen passengers, the captain of a jetblue plane who seemed to have suffered a breakdown in mid flight. >> just out of his mind screaming and saying to the passengers, say your prayers. >> jetblue 191 was flying from new york to las vegas tuesday when government sources say captain clayton started flipping switches and operating the radio. the co-pilot became so concerned he persuaded or tricked the
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captain into going to the restroom and then asked an off-duty captain to lock the door and change the combination. witnesses say captain osbon left the restroom, walked to the rear of the plane and seemed to lose control when he realized he was locked out of the cockpit. tony antelino was in row ten. >> he started sprinting toward the cockpit door and started pounding on the door, tried entering the code to get into the cockpit. >> reporter: the co-pilot declared an in-flight emergency. >> we're going to need authorities and medical to meet us at the airplane. >> while in the back, passengers had to use their own belts to subdue captain osbon who was screaming about a bomb, iran, iraq, afghanistan, and a warning to say your prayers. >> i ran off and we were face-to-face, me and the captain, wrestled a little bit. and i got him turned around and other passengers jumped on top
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of him. >> it appeared he was trying to open the side door. i wasn't going to let that happen. >> reporter: once on the ground, police and medics removed the captain, his arms still strapped down, but everyone safe. and osbon's georgia hometown reaction from a long-time friend and neighbor. >> i am as shocked as anybody. about this news. he's a straight-headed guy, very level headed. and very professional. >> again, he's a 12-year veteran with jetblue and serves as a flights standards captain. the fbi does not believe terrorism was at all involved here. but chris, the ceo of jetblue has apologized for the incident, but also thanked not only the crew members who reacted, but the passengers who got this captain down on the floor and held him until the plane was safely on the ground. back to you. >> is it expected there could be other charges filed here? >> reporter: that's really too soon to say.
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they're doing this medical evaluation right now to see exactly what his issues are. are they mental? did some sort of a medical issue cause this type of behavior? that's not out of the realm of possibilities. they want to get their hands around that first. >> thank you so much for that. and we should say, you heard a few of them. but the stories the passengers are telling are incredible. >> at first it was bizarre. it was like watching a movie only it was happening 10 feet in front of me. you know, at any moment i thought well, harrison ford is going to pop into the plane and save the day. >> more from my interview with two of the courageous people onboard that jetblue flight coming up at 10:30 eastern. re double miles challenge. show us how much you spent last year and we'll give you 2 miles for every dollar spent on your travel reward card. up to 100,000 miles! hawaii, here we come. claim your miles at capitalone.com today!
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some big news in the race for president. newt gingrich's campaign is running out of money. nbc confirms he's cutting back his campaign schedule, laying
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off a third of his staff, and he's replaced his campaign manager. here's what he said before that was announced. >> look, clearly we're going to have to go on a fairly tight budget to get from here to tampa. but i think we can do it and i think we will do it and it's going to take a lot of work on our part. but we have a lot of supporters. >> jackie covers for "usa today." good morning. >> good morning. >> morning. >> the plan now apparently is for newt gingrich to use social media and personally call delegates to try to persuade them to back him at the convention. what's he doing here, karen? >> i have no idea. like, dude, you admitted you can't win, you're telling everyone you can't win, you have to cut back, you don't have any money. why are you still doing this? no one really wants you. you haven't won too many of these primaries. why are you still in? >> there's a new poll out that
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shows republicans want newt gingrich and ron paul to get out of the race. here's rick santorum's reaction to all of this. >> and so obviously financially it's tough. >> is it too late, jackie, for even if newt gingrich gets out of the race to help rick santorum much? >> yeah, i don't know if newt gingrich got out of the race he would help santorum much because there's a school of thought out there that gingrich supporters would end up going to romney. there's no guarantee these people would say, oh, okay, i'm going to go to rick santorum now. the other thing about this newt gingrich strategy is he's not the only candidate doing it. romney's campaign, paul's campaign, santorum's campaign, they're all going to these uncommitted delegates too. so he's got competition and a lot of them have been doing it for a while. there's a lot of competition for these delegates too. it seems like he's staying in just in case we're saying democrats
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shouldt get cocky, but it's evident the polls are saying 53% of americans, voters do not like -- are. >> 53% like ability rating of president obama, mitt romney the likability, 34%.
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34%. >> here's the thing, we know mitt romney, this is not his first go round at this rodeo. there's nothing new. and the whole etch-a-sketch thing was poignant because it underscored this was a man willing to pander for anything and everything. and at this juncture in our history, i think we need a president who really cares about getting it done, whether we agree with everything he does or not, i think most people believe that barack obama is here to do the right thing. >> but when romney supporters look at those numbers, jackie, what they say is, look, of course he's been beaten up, had tens of millions of dollars by super packs and other candidates, and once we get into the general, this is going to kind of even out. is that a fair argument? >> i think chuck todd said this this morning, they have six months, but they only have six months if they lock this up. so yeah, they have a lot of work to do. the other thing, romney, for whatever reason can't connect with people and i think it has to do, some of it with car elevators and what not. i think there was that story yesterday about the house he's
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building and renovating in lajolla. so, he can't escape that narrative. and until he is able to really connect with voters, you know, it's going to be tough. and also, the economy is getting better in some of these places. so -- and those numbers can always fluctuate. i think we've got a lot of variables at this point. >> mitt romney was trying to connect. i don't know if you stayed up to see jaime plascencia leno last night, but he asked santorum about being his vice president. >> in this days, rick santorum's a good guy. we have differences and background and the differences on some issues. but basically a good guy, and i'm happy with him saying he wants to be in an administration with me. if he's the v.p., that's better. i'd rather be the president and he be the vice president. >> put the odds or chances on a romney/santorum ticket. >> zero. and this is the difference, this guy can't honestly say what he
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feels. we know there's contention there when we saw santorum last week, there's an authenticity about him that romney will never have because it's not him. >> you want to give me a percentage? >> there's a higher percentage of -- i don't even know. i don't think it's going to happen. at this point, there's a lot of bad blood and it's just -- there's no way. there's -- i just can't see it. >> thanks to both of you. we also want to get you updated on the deadly wildfires out in colorado. federal fire crews are planning to take over a big blaze in jefferson county that authorities say may be responsible for two deaths. it's spread to over seven square miles and destroyed more than two dozen homes. investigators say a controlled burn that was supposed to prevent wildfires may actually have started this deadly blaze. room for balls and tees,
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and to politics now. we told you about mitt romney on the "tonight show" with jay leno last night talking about rick santorum wanting to be his vice president. well, then there was this exchange with jay that gave the audience a laugh. >> did you ever think that we'd be talking about porn? with all the other things in this election? >> i didn't know we were talking about porn. >> we're not talking about porn, rick santorum is talking about porn. well, you and i were talking about porn backstage -- >> and we may have had a little foreshadowing while the first lady was at a cherry blossom tree planting yesterday about, yes, the possibility of a first gentleman. >> and i hope that on that day the first lady or the first gentleman of 2112 will also have the privilege of joining with our friends from japan and planting another tree. >> and first there was facebook, then twitter, and now pinterest.
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pinning some obama-inspired recipes. pictures of the first family and even obama art. there it is. and straight ahead, find out what it was like on that jetblue plane when the pilot had some kind of mid-air meltdown and had to be restrained by passengers. morning must read. if you only read one thing today, there is a fascinating piece by the "new yorker" on what if barack obama's health care mandate goes down. it is an eye-opener. we'll be right back. an accident doesn't have to slow you down. with better car replacement, if your car is totaled, we give you the money for a car one model year newer. liberty mutual auto insurance. here's a chance to create jobs in america. oil sands projects, like kearl, and the keystone pipeline will provide secure and reliable energy
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you are looking at live pictures from resolution square in havana, cuba, where pope benedict is holding an open air mass. it's reminiscent of the mass by pope john paul 14 years ago. mark potter is in havana for us. and mark, what else is on the pope's schedule today? >> reporter: well, first and
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foremost, chris, he is right now beginning to deliver his mass where he's been welcomed by a crowd as high as 750,000 people. this is a national holiday here in cuba right now. businesses are closed, offices are closed so that people can come here to see the pope. on this, his final day of his three-day visit to cuba. now later today he is scheduled to meet with fidel castro, the leader of the cuban revolution and the man who led for decades until 2006 when he handed over the reigns due to ill health. fidel castro said that when he heard the pope wanted to meet with him briefly, he agreed to speak in audience with the pope. but there were no further details about what he hoped to talk about with the pope. but that meeting is scheduled -- presumed it'll happen some time after the mass and before the pope leaves to head back to
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rome. >> these are remarkable pictures due to the size of this crowd. this is the least catholic country in latin america. what has the reception been like? >> reporter: it has been very, very enthusiastic. the numbers are interesting, 5% is the estimate for how many people go to church here regularly, but you get numbers as high as 50% when you ask, are you catholic? and there was a mixture of catholicism and other religions here. so it is the least catholic center in latin america, but there is a strong tie to the church. by the way, yesterday, the pope met with an official stage visit with raul castro, the president of cuba. they met for about 40 minutes. a vatican spokesman said they talked about conditions in the country and the role that the church might continue to play in helping with that. they're talking about economic changes. the church already runs food banks, medical centers, day care centers, which the government
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cannot necessarily afford to do because of the troubled economy. there was an interesting point in response to what the pope said on the plane coming into mexico at the start of this visit where he suggested that cuba consider alternatives to marxism. there will be changes, but in the economic realm. and he said very clearly there would be no changes to the political model here. chris? >> mark potter in havana for us, thank you. and this just in police have arrested two people in the death of a teacher in vermont. a single mother missing since sunday. a snowplow driver and his wife are being charged with second-degree murder in the killing of jenkins who police say was strangled. her body was found near her car that was left running. her 2-year-old son unharmed inside. he is okay and being cared for by a family friend. e-mails are going out to all apple ipad owners in australia
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right now. the company is offering a refund after the country's consumer watchdog accused apple of misleading consumers. they say apple did not warn ipad owners that their devices are not compatible with australia's 4g network. basketball legend magic johnson trying his hand at baseball. won at auction to buy the dodgers for $2 billion. it'd be the highest ever paid for a sports franchise, but the deal is subject to approval in federal bankruptcy court. and this is crazy and it's going to set off a mania. no one picked the six correct numbers in last night's multi-state mega millions lottery game sending the jackpot a staggering $476 million. the next drawing is set for friday. don't buy a ticket, we've got a little pool going on at jansing co., we're winning. and just moments ago, senator john mccain, here he was criticizing president obama's health care law. he said if the most important
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part is young adults being able to stay on their parents' insurance, he'd pass a separate amendment to do that. >> if they want to stay till 30 in the basement, it's fine with me, but the fact is for that to be the center piece why we have to preserve obama care is, of course, a bad joke. >> and, of course, he's making these comments as the supreme court continues to hear arguments for and against. in the meantime, jetblue ceo is crediting a highly-trained crew and quick-thinking passengers for getting a pilot under control after he had some kind of meltdown yesterday mid flight. the fbi is holding captain clayton osbon for what jetblue's ceo calls a medical situation. >> i've known the captain personally for a long period of time, and there's been no indication of this in the past. >> you know this man personally? >> very much. >> what's his background? what's in his file? any other complaints against him? >> consummate professional,
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matt. >> joining me now are two of the passengers on that flight, tony and laura. good morning, and it's good to see both of you on solid ground. >> you know, it's great to be on solid ground. >> well, lauren, let me ask you, you were in the fourth row, when did you realize something was terribly wrong on this flying? >> well, i think it was the moment i saw the captain of the plane run from the back to the front of the plane and when he started banging on the cockpit door saying, let me in, let me in, can't you see it's me? look through the camera. let me in, we've got to pull the throttle back, we've got to land this plane. and then he started trying to type in the secret code that obviously only the crew has access to. and that's when the floiight attendants, one man, one woman tried to pull him away. they were unsuccessful. and that's when tony and a group of five or six other men sprang into action and grabbed him in
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the front of the cockpit area and brought him down to the ground in the front of the plane. >> and tony, the captain is a pretty big guy, i understand. he's, what, 6'3"? it couldn't have been easy to restrain him since he was in quite a state. >> he really was, more than an agitated state. his adrenaline was in full effect. he was extremely hard to wrestle to the ground, actually. myself and the other gentleman just grabbed him, i think, instinctually. he began ranting about iran, iraq, they're going to take us down and that type of thing. he suggested we all say the lord's prayer. at that point we all just kind of decided in concert we should take him down and restrain him. we forcefully tackled him to the ground and everybody grabbed a body part and we held him down until we landed. >> and while this is happening, what is going through your mind?
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>> well, at first, it was bizarre, it was like watching a movie, only it was happening 10 feet in front of me. and i thought at any moment harrison ford is going to pop into the plane and save the day, but unfortunately it was all too real. and i must say there was a brief moment, i think we probably all had and several of us who were talking later about it said we had kind of a 9/11 moment. and for me, it was when i saw the captain banging on the door. i thought what if he's not a real captain and what if he has a gun. but literally about ten seconds later, the team of heroes on the plane tackled the guy and brought him down and after that, honestly, we were all pretty calm. i've got to give a shout out to everybody who was on that plane, all the passengers. the flight attendants asked us to remain calm, and we did. >> absolutely remarkable stories. lori and tony, thanks so them. and now to another sort of
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hero. more than 1 million american veterans are unemployed. take a live look at the uss intrepid. here in new york, we don't have that picture, but it is helping to kick off a year-long commitment to hold 400 job fairs, part of our hiring our heroes campaign from nbc universal and the u.s. chamber of commerce. it's an acknowledgment of the success that more than 100 job fairs have had in the last year. i spoke with two of the vets who got the help they needed. >> reporter: survived deployments in iraq and afghanistan, marine sergeant reese wasn't expecting a struggle like this. 18 months of bouncing from one temporary job to another. >> i have to sort up all my money, i got to prepare for the fact i might not get a job. >> reporter: he drove 40 hours straight from california through phoenix and albuquerque, memphis to birmingham and finally atlanta where he heard about a job fair at the georgia dome and
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off he went without sleep. >> i got work, you know. a man that don't work, don't eat. >> reporter: sergeant reese's struggle is devastatingly common. the unemployment rate for post 9/11 veterans is 12%, 29% for vets under 25. that harsh reality was not the welcome home joshua raffe hoped for after a tour in iraq working convoy security. >> applying for all of these jobs but getting nowhere. it was very difficult. >> reporter: experts say military skills easily translate to the private sector. >> about 81% of the jobs in the military have a close civilian equivale equivalent. >> reporter: that's the message at the job fairs around the country. in portland, oregon, they hired him as a lab technician. 5,000 employers have hired 8,400 veterans including sergeant reese who got a management job with game stop. >> yeah, i was pretty excited on
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the inside. but like i said, you've got to maintain your cool if you have to. you have to. >> he hired reese because of his military experience. >> so much to offer from leadership ability to great communication. typically they've got exceptional work ethic, reliability, accountability. >> for sergeant reese, real-life battles fought and won from fallujah to atlanta, successes at war and now at home. >> and one of today's four hiring our heroes job fairs is being held here in new york city. richard lui is joining us from the retired aircraft carrier uss "intrepid," and richard, i know you've been talking to vets and other experts, what are challenges facing our veterans that have unemployment rates so high? >> you know, chris, there are many challenges, one has to do with post-traumatic stress. i want to talk about the crowd
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today. it started at 8:00 a.m., those doors open, and by military time they're all on time. there are probably more jobs here available than there are veterans. back to what you asked me, what are some of the challenges many of these vets are facing? it has to do with post-traumatic stress. there's a perception problem here. according to society for human resources, what they say, chris, is that 46% of employers feel that they have a problem with post-traumatic stress when they think about hiring a vet and that translates to a workplace of p only about 13% seeing a problem with post-traumatic stress. we do have someone who knows about the dynamics of transit n transitioning back to the workforce. if you can tell us, colonel, how do transitioning soldiers deal with that problem? >> well, they've got to be up front about it. you can't go to war and not have some sort of post-traumatic stress. but trust me, all the men and
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women in uniform have had more authority and responsibility at an early age than anybody else. they can do any job. and do it better than anybody else because they've got the maturity and the experience to do it. so there is post-traumatic stress, but veterans deal with it extremely well. >> thank you very much, colonel. and 83% according to veterans affairs actually have post-traumatic stress when they do return from the battlefield. and some of the employers know this. many behind me are on the aircraft carrier. this jet is representative of what ge is doing, our parent company, they are hiring over 10,000 right now, 5,000 more they promised to hire, 40% of the jet engine employees at their ge factory are veterans. that's good. i also want to show you other success stories over here. these are two employers. let me take to kip first.
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what do you got there? >> got a great candidate we're going to be speaking with. we've probably seen 15 or 20 folks. >> good news for veterans looking for jobs. >> that's great to hear. thank you so much, richard lui, thanks to you. a twitter error has reportedly forced an elderly florida couple to leave their home in fear for their lives. the couple's address was mistakenly posted on twitter as belonging to george zimmerman, the man who shot trayvon martin. well, the couple's son said the original tweet came from a california man but was retweeted by spike lee. the son is named william george zimmerman, no relation to the martin shooter. spike lee's tweet has since been removed. like a ramen noodle- every-night budget. she thought allstate car insurance was out of her reach.
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good morning, everybody, i'm thomas roberts, the agenda next hour, terrifying moments on a jetblue flight from new york to las vegas after the pilot goes into a rage. what does this say about security in the skies? we'll take a peek at that. plus, these secret documents expose the tactics for the anti-lgbt group the national organization for marriage. maggie gallagher co-founder will be here to explain what's in this. and joe oliver is the man defending george zimmerman in the case, but how well does joe oliver know zimmerman? new details on the trayvon martin case that paint a more complicated picture of what happened that night. the "miami herald" is reporting that sanford police recommend the gunman be charged with manslaughter, but the state's attorney office held off pending further review of the case. and it turns out trayvon martin had problems in high school, suspended three times for
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vandalism, truancy, possession of drug paraphernalia and after being caught with jewelry and a burglary tool in his bag. we have t.d. jakes, author of the new book "let it go." with a great cover, i have to say. thanks for coming in. >> it's a pleasure. >> trayvon martin's mother said first they killed my son now they're trying to kill his reputation. do you think that's what's going on here? or could there have been a rush to judgment? >> i don't know, i think we're trying to gather the facts. i think it's prudent upon us that we do that. and had we not applied the pressure. i'm not sure the facts would've come out as they are right now. >> you told your congregation that this case is bigger than just an african-american issue. how do you see this? what's your big picture on the trayvon martin discussion? >> well, my big concern is as a father, it doesn't make a difference what color you are.
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you want to feel your children can move around safely, they are teenagers, teenagers have issues. but none of the issues, even the ones alleged against trayvon rise to the height of being killed. and every parent has teenagers who go through adolescence, but you don't want your children profiled. and we want to make that's not the case. i'm not saying it is, but we need to make sure that is no the the case and that justice is not misappropriated. right now, i think that if the shoe were on the other foot, had it been trayvon who had killed some other child in another situation that he would be arrested. >> i also want to ask you about what's going on today, and that is the health care debate. another thing that has people really talking. and it's been emotional, it's been heated on both sides. do you think that this is maybe kind of a teachable moment? i mean, what lessons do you think can be learned in this debate? >> well, you know, i think we need to find a plausible way that we can provide health care for all americans.
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it is the -- i think we need to recognize the fact that other countries have been able to do this and it's reprehensible for us to be one of the leading free world countries in the world and something many other countries have modeled effectively and been able to take care of their citizens more appropriately. >> it's not just health care, obviously. there have been very emotional and i think some would say mud slinging debate on a whole range of issues. we are in the political environment, there is a presidential election coming up. have we lost a sense of civility? do you think it's worse? or do we say that every four years? >> no, i think it is worse. i'm 55 years old. i've seen a lot of political debates, and i think it is -- the loss of respect for people in positions. i mean, sometimes it reduces to sounding like acting like children. and i'm concerned that everything is heated up more recently than ever before. some of it may be due to the fact we have more technology, we're able to communicate on different methodologies than we've been able to do before.
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but i also sense there's a loss of civility that's very disturbing to me. >> it's great of you to come in and again, very cool cover on the new book. i know you're in the middle of a big book tour. thank you so much for stopping in. >> appreciate it. today's tweet of the day comes from mike murphy. newt cuts staff vows to focus on campaign making personal phone calls to delegates. meanwhile, caller i.d. sales skyrocket.
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octomom takes it off, and the smelliest of shoes. let's go to the wire. we will not be showing you the picture, but the website tmz reports that octomom nadya suleman is posing topless because she needs the money. the photos are in a european magazine. >> martina and tony.
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>> the first contestant voted off "dancing with the stars" last night. don't worry, maria, sherry shepard and melissa gilbert is still around. along with william leavy also known as the cuban brad pitt. meet the kids with the smelliest shoes around. >> i seem to have some sort of natural curse where i can ruin a good pair of shoes in about a year. >> a master sniffer found who has the stinkiest sneakers in the rotten sneakest contest. oh, so glad there's not smellivision. and you've got to remember watson, the lovable computer that beat ken jennings on "jeopardy," now he has a job at the cancer center in new york. dr. watson, i presume? that wraps up this hour of jansing and company. i'm chris jansing, thomas roberts is up next. ♪ ♪ liquid gooooooooooooooooooooooooold ♪
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i ran off and we were face-to-face, me and the captain, wrestled a little bit. and i got him turned around and then other passengers jumped on, we all got on top of him. >> pilot freak out. more details about a deranged jetblue pilot's terrifying rampage where he screamed about bombs and al qaeda. we're going to hear from passengers who sprang into action. some of them tieing the pilot up with their very own belts. is the individual mandate headed for a supreme slapdown? president obama's health care law comes under withering assault by the justices today. the high court looking at whether parts of the law can stand if the mandate falls. >> however, he never shared anything with you about his past, his violent past. he never shared with you whether or not he had been through any anger management courses. you said yesterday o

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