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good evening, americans. scott walker opened up a new front in the republican war on women. the obama campaign isn't backing down from this fight. this is getting real good. this is the "the ed show." let's get to work. >> fewer than 20% of the seats in congress are occupied by women. >> the president is taking a stand against the war on women. >> is it possible that congress will get more done if there were more women in congress? >> republicans are still in denial. >> i think this will pass as an issue as people understand our real position. the new job numbers fall short of expectations and republicans are dancing for joy. vermont senator is here with reaction and a plan. two more companies cut ties with the conservative group. >> members don't agree with all the policies. >> the color of change campaign is keeping the pressure on. their executive director joins
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me tonight. one of the biggest names in american entertainment says he was the victim of racial profiling. michael ericdyson on explosionive a allegations 37. good to have you with us. the president let america know what side he's on in the republicans war on women's rights. president obama spoke today on women and the economy. >> women are not some monolittic block. women are not an interest group. you shouldn't be treated that way. overall, a woman with a college degree doing the same work as a man will earn hundreds of thousands of dollars less over the course of her career. closing this pay gap, ending pay discrimination is about far more than simple fairness. when more women are bringing home the bacon but bringing
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homeless of it than men that are doing the same work. it's tough on our kids. it weakens our entire company. fewer than 20% of the seats in congress are occupied by women. is it possible that congress will get more done if there were more women in congress? >> the inequality was the focus of the president's remarks today. the white house released a 65-page report on women in the economy. the president was clear about the type of policies needed to equal the playing field for men and women. >> what we can't do now is go back to the policies that got us into so many problems that we have been dealing with in the first place. people say we should get rid of planned parenthood. they're not just talk about restricting a woman's ability to make her own health decision pps they are talking about denying the preventive care like
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mammograms that millions of women rely on. >> it was mitt romney who said republicans are going to get rid of planned parenthood. romney spoke to the conservative website about the war on women. he took the same position as the chairman of the republican party. the war on women just made up by the democrats. >> there's no question that over the past several weeks that a discussion about religious liberty was distorted into a discussion about contraceptives and the perception that republicans were opposed to contraception. it was the most unfortunate twist by our democrat friends. i think this will pass as an issue as people understand our real position. >> he still doesn't get it pm romney and the republican leaders are in complete denial. part of rehab at a timing yourself on a situation is admitting you have a problem.
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republicans need to rehabilitate their image with women voters to close the gender gap. the only republicans who admit there's a problem are women in their caucus. c alaska senator is trying to wake up the republican party on this issue and get with it. speaking to alaska public radio station she called rush limbaugh's comments offense ifr and said the republicans have been wrong headed. >> it came down to more of a full on attack on women's reproductive right, on contraception. you had candidates who want to be our president who did not say that is wrong. that is offensive. they did not condemn the rhetoric. i think that then caused women
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to be even more threatened. it makes no sense to attack women, and if you don't view this as an attack on women, then you need to go home and talk to your wives. talk to your daughters. ask them. >> she and other women senators are at a breaking point with their party. republican leaders continue to make things worse for women not to be out done and quickly to jump into the parade, here he comes. scott walker quietly signed a bill repealing the state equal pay law. in 2011, wisconsin women made 81 cents for every dollar made by men. on average that's a $7,000 difference over the course of a year. the obama campaign called on mitt romney to denounce walker's new law. as he campaigned across wisconsin mitt romney praised his leadership calling him a ree hoe and man of courage.
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does he stand with governor walker against this? mitt romney and the republicans have a clear choice here. they can continue to deflect the blame and pretend the war on women does not exist in politics in this country or they can do what's right and reject laws like the one scott walker just signed, which one is it going to be? get your cell phones out. do any other republicans have the courage to denounce their party's war on women? text a for yes. text b for no. you can always go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring results later on in the show. how is this playing out in the states. i'm joined by state senator from ohio. nina turner and wisconsin state senator, lena taylor. two of my favorites because they do not back down.
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somehow the war on women playing out in these crucial states that will be swing states, battleground states in 2012? senator taylor, what does it mean for scott walker to overturn this equal pay law in wisconsin? >> you know the reason he did it in the secret in his office and did not give the fanfare is because he knows it does not play well among the voters. he knows that in the end, it will more than likely cost him votes. in the end in 2012, i think it's horrible that women cannot get a dollar for a dollar like men do when they go to work. >> john kasich in ohio has passed six abortion regulation laws in the past year. how is this affecting your state? is this war on women alive in your state? is it a political issue as it's being reported on the national level? >> it is unfortunate that we
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have occupiers of state houses and general assemblies that all they day care about is prohibiting women and their rights to high quality health care. they need to worry less about caterpillars because the last time i checked they don't vote, women do. we are going to vote fiercely and strongly come november and make sure that we send a strong message in this nation that we will not be treated like second class citizens. instead of focusing on things that are right, things that matter, they are focusing in on an assault on a woman's right to choose. >> senator taylor, what other restrictive bills has scott walker signed. i understand there was quite a document dumped today. >> there was. he also signed a bill for web cam abortions. he also signed several bills. he repealed our healthy youth act. this is a reflection of the gop's nationwide assault war on
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women. the fact that they can't see it really shows they are out of touch with voters. >> senator taylor, when you look at what's going on in wisconsin, he actually took a bill and signed it into law repealing equal pay. >> he did. >> i just find that unbelievable that he would make an official statement that if you have a man and a woman working side by side, the man ought to get more money. how else do you read that? >> you can't read it any other way, ed. this is another reflection of the fact they overreach. they put corporations over people. corporations is the reason they say they do it over women. in the end, why should we not be eligible to get a dollar for a dollar when we know that more than anything women are becoming more heads of households. women in our state, in particular, are creating more businesses, so we're creating
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more jobs, potentially especially among african-american women. we make 67 cents on a dollar. what does that say? >> it's not going to get corrected in the workplace unless there's legislation. do you believe that? >> i do. i would ask the women in this nation to clean state houses and governor's mansions across this country and take out the right wing occupiers and replace them with elected officials that believe in quality and justice for all. the power is in our hands. the president needs a strong team on the state level because a lot of these draconian types of bills and other policies are coming from state houses across this country. we have to stand up with a strong voice and we need our men, men who support and respect women to stand right there by our side. women are mothers, sisters,
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aunts, care givers. i cannot believe in the 21st century we're fighting for equal pay. women only making 77 cents on every dollar and african-american and latino women less than that. a lot of those households are headed by single women. we are depriving children of equality. we're depriving their families. this is not right. this is america. >> exactly. >> i want you to speak to the president of the united states. he's in this thing now. this forum they had at the white house and he did a direct hit on the republicans, calling them out for their failed policies to level the playing field for american women in the work force. senator taylor, if you were visiting with president obama, what would you tell him to do? how should he handle this in this political season? >> the first thing i would do is thank him for the tweet he sent out asking the question, would congress be better if congress were in?
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i want to answer and say, yes, is the answer. we're about getting results. i would tell the president what he has shown in his leadership to have women in his cabinet, women in leerdship positions. women going around this nation helping to put his message out is what needs to happen. frankly, saying that we need to have legislation in these various states and saying to mitt romney or anyone on the gop side that they need to stand up and denounce whether it's rush limbaugh's ridiculous statements or legislation that is backing god how far knows back it will take us. >> senator, what would you say? >> i'm absolutely convinced that a lot of elected leaders in this country have lost their ever loving minds. i want the president to continue to go strong and hard on the women and girls in this nation and make sure he does not relent in this.
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booker t. washington once said there are two ways to use strength. one to push down and the other to pull up. i want the president to continue to use his power to pull up the middle class in this nation, to pull up the women in this nation and pull up the working class in this nation. as long as he continues to go strong and hard, the president will have the support. a lot of people were born at night and they weren't born last night. it's not lost on anybody that this right wing excessive elected officials that are trying to take women back to the dark ages and make us second class citizens, we're not going to take it. i want the president to know we got his back in ohio. >> all right. great to have both you have with us tonight. i said you're two of my favorites. i think the audience knows why now. >> we love you too. >> we love you. >> i love you back. remember to answer tonight's question there. share your thoughts on twitter. coming up, today's job
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report was weaker than expected. it was very positive and republicans just couldn't wait to blame the president over the whole number. vermont senator on the gop's response, next. later, something both sides can agree on. senator john mccain tells augusta to get with it and allow women to join share club. martin bashir will join me for the conversation. stay with us. [ donovan ] i hit a wall. and i thought "i can't do this, it's just too hard." then there was a moment. when i decided to find a way to keep going. go for olympic gold and go to college too. [ male announcer ] every day we help students earn their bachelor's or master's degree for tomorrow's careers. this is your moment.
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the economy added 120,000 jobs in march. construction season hasn't even started yet. the unemployment rate dipped to 8.2%. hold it right there. it wasn't too long ago we were hearing there's no way it will go below 9% before the election. look where we are. we're making progress. republicans are salivating over the job numbers because they're not good enough. they're lucky. they're out there saying we're lucky. america is lucky. they are licking their chops ready to pounce on any number they find. john boehner say families and businesses are still struggling to get by of president obama's failed economic policies. rom said it's increasingly clear that the obama economy is not working and that after three years in office the president's excuses have run out. 25 months of straight profit. that's not good enough, mitt romney? i know it's private sector job
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increases but mitt likes to talk profit all the time because he talks about his private business experience. republicans in congress have tried to block the president at every turn. of course, we would like to see stronger job numbers, why not jobs a month. in a world where there's very little if any bipartisan, it's not bad. republicans once again look like they are cheering against the american economy. it's like they are anti-progress. president obama's policy vs added four more private sector jobs in three years. george w. bush added a net of three million jobs over eight years. you can do the math at home. maybe it's new math for republicans. let's turn to vermont senator. i do want to point out that you did not vote for the jobs act because and there were other democrats that did not vote for the jobs act. i think that's a good thing for
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the president, seriously. it shows the president is willing to move in the direction of the republicans to try to get the economy going and try to get them engaged. what's your read on that? >> i don't agree. i think it was a bad bill. i think the last thing in the world we have to do is deregulate wall street anymore, create a situation where vulnerable investors will be ripped off because they don't have enough financial information. this country remained mired in a terrible recession. our republican friends have a short memory. they forget when obama took office were were losing 700,000 jobs a month that in the last quarter of the bush administration gdp declined by over 6% and we lost,0 thousands and thousands of factories.
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my view is we are making progress under obama. no question about that. republicans have no right to be critical when virtually every day in the united states senate they're busy obstructing any effort that we want to make to create jobs. in the senate we passed a bipartisan transportation bill. over a billion dollars for two years would create hundreds and hundreds of thousands of decent paying job. bipartisan isn't the senate. the house can't get their act together. these guys do not want to invest in america. they don't want to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure and create the millions jobs that we desperately need. >> the tea party wing, it's personal with them. they hate the president. they are very clear about that. should we brace ourselves for some tough months ahead with republicans jumping all over this. it seems we're having the discussion in the office, all it will take is one month where
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maybe it's 30 or 40,000 jobs added and the reasons will be relentless. what would the climate be like then? >> if you're asking me are the republicans prepared to do whatever they can to torpedo the economy in order to defeat obama. i think the answer is clear. they have shown that time and time again. when we talk about the economy, it's not just unemployment and real unemployment by the way if you include those people that have given up looking for work, people working part-time is much worse than the official statistics indicate. what's even worse than that, there was a study that came out, in 2010 come tepared to 2009, 9f the income created, it went to the top 1%. any time that any of the us in the senate or house are trying to say maybe, maybe we should
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ask the wealthiest people in the country to start paying their fair share of tax, maybe, maybe, we should end these outrageous tax break frs the os for the ois and corporations that are paying sometimes nothing in federal income taxes. the republicans say no, no, no. >> senator, great to have you with us. always speaking truth to power and common sense. appreciate your time. two more companies say that they are cutting ties with alec. next, i'll talk with the head of the group leading the charge against alec's right wing agenda. a wisconsin election official is relieved of her responsibilities after another election night failure. ♪ he was a 21st century global nomad ♪
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well, it's a right wing shadowy organization that's kept a low profile, for how long? 40 years. it's led the charge on voter suppression. they have attacked public education, labor rights and pushed for this kill at will laws nationwide. it's not a secret anymore. the american legislative exchange council is calling the sho shots. they write bills with state
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lawmakers the promote legislation for its corporate members. alec brought stand your ground to florida and over a dozen other states. a.l.e.c. crafted arizona's show me your paper law. it's now pushing discriminatory voter i.d. laws all over the country. each year close to 1,000 bills based on a.l.e.c. model legislation is introduced in the states. an average of 20% become law. takes connections to hit that kind of number, don't you think? this week color of change, the group that took down glen beck sets it sight on a.l.e.c. four company vs now cut ties. first it was pepsi and then
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coca-cola and now the software company, intuit. here comes fox news rushing to a.l.e.c.'s defense. a warning was issued earlier, far left activist group claims third scalp. megan kelly invited a a.l.e.c. spokeswoman to spin the message and hit back at color of change. >> what a.l.e.c. is is a bipartisan association of state legislatures. we have legislatures of all political stripes coming together to talk about the most critical issues facing the states. >> your point is it's not a partisan organization but to get the things that you want inacted you have to have money and you have to get the word out and you get that from donors like coca-cola and walmart. the group that is going after you and your supporters has come out and said that quote, many leading corporations have left
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your organization and as it moves to the extreme right. your response. >> that's inaccurate. that would be my response to that. >> let's bring in rashad robinson. great to have you with us. color of change, you're putting pressure on these folks. where is this going to go? >> we're going to continue to keep the pressure on. once we started to connect the dots between voter suppression laws and the american legislative exchange council and talk to the members about the roles that major corporations who come into black communities and want us to buy their services and products, were planning and allowing a.l.e.c. to do its work became outraged. we spent the last couple of months reallying to let corporations know that they had a choice to make.
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do they want to stand with a.l.e.c. or stand with the consumers who every day buy their pruks. >> they have 150 corporations that are financially connected to a.l.e.c. you're going to go after every one of them. >> we're going to make every one of them visible to the american public and run campaigns on those that come into black communities and want us to pay their that you are services and buy their products. we're also going to work with other allies across the country who may have better relationships with some of these corporations to give them the opportunity. at tend of the day these corporations have a choice. think can say we support voter suppression laws or support kill at will laws. they can tell folks that. they will no longer be able toll have a relationship with a.l.e.c. in private. they will no longer allow this organization to will its power behind closed doors. >> phizer and walmart say they
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will stay with a.l.e.c. >> there's no sane profit organization that should stay with an organization like a.l.e.c. it promotes the rampant pollution of our environment. it promotes voter suppression. a corporation has no benefit in saying i want to put my name next to that. those are a few highlights of what they have been up to in the last few decades. now you have organizations like color of change who are exposing them. we're finding out that they are a right wing political organization that represents fringe political rights. >> do they actually give boilerplate legislation and serve it up to state legislatures and say serve this and we'll line your pockets? >> ed, it's so extreme that we have found legislation that they have written word for word and the bone head legislature who
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works for them has gone back to the state and introduced that bill word for word that's been written by the oil industry or the pharmaceutical industry, you name it. they are writing bills that are anti-consumer across the board. >> do these corporations now how active a.l.e.c. is? would they be somewhat, so disconnected that they don't nope they are that right wing? could they be making a mistake? >> some of them tried to act surprised that they didn't know about the voter i.d. laws or some of them during the -- as more americans have become aware, they tried to pretend they don't know about the kill at will laws. they have these relationships because a.l.e.c. boast they get the job done. except for one democrat, all the folks are republicans. they understand this is about pushing right wing policies.
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these corporations have been able to do it behind closed doors. that is going to end. >> is the social networking the key to all of this? >> ten or 15 years ago we would have had this information and tried to create letter writing campaigns or taken a long time to get this out to the public. because we can pair up this information with the ability for every day people to make their voices heard, that's really the power in this situation. >> mike, isn't the next best step for people is to identify legislature who is are in association with a.l.e.c. there's 2,000 of them around the country from all these different states around the country in these legislative sessions that are connected. >> a.l.e.c. is the kiss of death for politicians. who are the people that are most associated with a.l.e.c., scott walker. one of the most unpopular governor in america. rick scott.
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tom corbert. they are the kiss of death for politicians. any politician that says, i'm all until with this company is insane. right now you have them out of the shadows. people are understanding what they are about. you can't sell products, ed, if your brand is branded next to a scoundral. i kind of like the idea that members are members of the masters. >> defenders of discrimination are coming out of wood works. martin bashir on the controversy at the masters. big news out of wisconsin. we might get an accurate vote total for the recall. that report is ahead. one of the biggest names in american entertainment is making explosive allegations.
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welcome back. today there was some bipartisan agreement on the need for augusta national to allow members. senator john mccain tweeted don't you think it's time that augusta joined the 20th century and allow women to join. they normally give an honorary membership. this year virginia is the ceo of ibm and augusta doesn't allow women members. some conservatives can't understand why this is a problem. >> frankly, i kind of like the idea that women aren't members of the masters. good lord, i don't want to go to hanging out at some women's
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event. can't men go anywhere and be men. you moe what mr. president, why don't you leave partisanship out of golf. >> a night out with your friends, girls night out, an all guy golf club, you have a problem with it? if there was a girl's club, it wouldn't bother me. >> who is the real sexist? conservatives do not understand the severity of institutional discrimination. they seem to ignore how augusta didn't invite a black member until 1990. it gives you an idea houf they have had their head stuck in the sand. martin, great to have you with us. >> great to be with you. >> the republicans defend it at every chance. >> i'm a member of a rugby club
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at new york. we have women's teams. i just come back from a good friday service. i noticed in the descriptions of the biblical narrative, who are the people that witnessed the death, crucifixion, burial and empty domb, were were able to attest to the facts of the first easter yet when it comes to republicans now, it feels like there's been a yearlong campaign against women. >> a female reporter for the new york times said if it was her choice the mastest wouldn't be covered until they had a woman member. it's almost in every profession, all facets, all walks of life and this is all coming to a big head of discussion. how big will it be in this
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political year? >> it's huge . think about the facts. darrell issa holds a hearing and no women are allowed to give evidence and the student sandra fluke is not welcome. rick santorum makes it clear he loathes contraception. mitt romney says he will defund and destroy planned parenthood even though he knows 97% of what planned parenthood has nothing to do with abortions and there's legislation that prevents federal funding for anything to do with the determination. it's been incredible. here is another thing. senator roy blunt and his amendment. he wanted to introduce an amendment that would allow an employer to with hold medical care in relation to an employee on moral reasons, against my conscience. in arizona there's been an attempt to allow employers to fire women for using birth
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control as contraception. a lot of republicans have no time pr the man at all. when he comes out and says things like this is the equivalent of war on ka ter pill particulars it's hardly surprising no one takes him seriously. >> three republican senators are trying to make up the party. lisa says go home and talk to your daughter and your mother and your wife and you'll find out where this war on women is. i think it's going have a big political fall out. i think the president is going to right thing just speaking right to the issue very forcefully. >> it's one thing to pander to the right for the purpose of winning the primary elections. it's quite another, it's idiotic and suicidal to use women to do that. do these people, does mitt romney think in seven months every woman in this country will suffer a profound form of amnesia and won't remember all
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of the things that have been said that have undermined women in our culture and in our society? >> they are doing a great job of getting the vote out for women. there's no doubt about that. >> martin bashir great -- >> i want to say one thing. congratulations on the anniversary of your show. this is, i believe the third anniversary. >> it is. i start my fourth year at msnbc tonight. >> that's fantastic. someone said to me, ed is not part of the furniture, he's the lungs of the network. i think i agree with that. congratulations. >> thank you. next, the wisconsin recall elections just got a little bit more fair. the official who magically came up with enough votes to push a republican over the top in a tight race last year will not be involved in the recall. stay with us. [ male announcer ] every day thousands of people are choosing advil®. here's one story. pain doesn't have much of a place in my life. i checked the schedule and it's not on it.
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another major election screw up by an incompetent wisconsin election official. kathy nicholas is stepping away from her election duty after a vote count debalk cal. she came under fire after last election. here is how we reported on that story at the time. >> late this afternoon, a republican stronghold corrected its vote count giving justice david proszer an inofficial 7,500 vote lead. she said more than 14,000 votes were not previously reported due
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to quote, human error. nicholas forgot to save vote totals from suburban milwaukee. nicholas has been criticized for lack of oversight in the past. interesting. an audit of her handling of the 2010 election found she needed to improve security and what do you know, backup procedures. a year later nicholas still hasn't gotten it together. this is what her office looked like on tuesday night. it's the result of a failed new vote counting system set up by nicholas. she was supposed to unload and upload election results from voting machine memory cards as the votes came in. it doesn't work out well. they spent all night going through the rolls of paper from the voting machines and posting the results online manually. tuesday's disaster was too much for executive who said he would call for her resignation if she did not give up her election
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in all that i imagined, i imagined i would never be able toll say, ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states of america. president barack obama. >> days before tyler perry introduced the president of the united states at his studio in atlanta, the highest paid man in entertainment said he was racially profiled by the police. perry explains what happened in a lengthy post on facebook. he was pulled over for making a left turn from a right lane. when the two officers both, white, approached the car, terry
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told them he made an illegal turn as safety precaution against followed. the officers did not recognize him and reacted with suspicion. this is his description of their behavior. it was so hostile. i was so confused, it was happening so fast that i could see how this situation could get out of hand quickly. i didn't feel safe at all but one officer stopped the questioning and said we may not let you go. you think you're being followed? what's wrong with you? he said his attitude made him remember his mother's advice about,0 how to behave around a police officer as a black man, say yes sir and no sir and don't make any sudden movements. the hostility continued until a black officer arrived and recognized him and then the white officers backed off. let's turn to michael eric
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dyson. what's your response when you hear this story and read about this story? >> it's typical. it's representative. it reminds me of situations i've been in. the fear, the anger, the hostility, the intimidation. the feeling you have no control over the situation and the feeling that at any moment a policeman could snap. i had this happen at me at 3:00 in the morning on highways of new jersey. you feel helpless and hopeless. you feel that regardless of whatever education you have, whatever achievement you have go out this window. this particular police person can end your life and you feel that skbeintense of a response that moment. many people that are not minority don't understand that. i had a friend, a white man from london who said he jumped oult of his car and asked the police why they stopped him. i could never do that. all i could see is death.
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>> how do we change all this? they say they are investigating the incident. what can be done to make sure that stuff like this doesn't happen in the first place? >> well, first of all, everybody has to be assumed that they are tyler perry, by which i mean treat everybody like you treat tyler perry after you find out he's tyler perry. how about community policing. how about people policing those communities so those that are there feel the police are there to protect and serve and not to intimidate and inspire fear. thirdly, i think we need to have a review board that looks at these incidents that repri mands them so they are there to help and not harm. >> that piece of tape is tyler perry and the president of the united states. should the president of the united states address this issue? should he open up a big discussion in the wake of the travesty that unfolded down in
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florida. are we at that point where we need have that discussion on a massive level in this country? >> i think it would be helpful. look at what happened to trayvon martin. suspicion, fear, a set of stereo types that informed what george zimmerman ended up doing that night. many people don't live on mars. they are born in america. they have the same set of fears as anybody else does. >> could it have gone south fast with tyler perry? >> absolutely. he's a big, black man. he could appear to be intimidating and the need to restrain him and impose order on him could be swift. >> he cougot lucky? >> he got very lucky to be alive. >> thanks so much. that's the "the ed show." it's a friday night. the "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening. only five seconds early tonight. last week
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