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of this. and could facebook provide the possible clues to a deadly shooting in the heartland that is now being investigated as a possible hate crime? we'll have that and a whole bunch more. i'm thomas roberts. the republican fight to face president obama could come to an end in pennsylvania. mitt romney is wrapping up his easter break ready for an all-out campaign offensive in pennsylvania. expected to roll out millions of dollars in ads. mean while newt gingrich all but acknowledged this week that romney will be the nominee. big question, where does that leave rick santorum? originally schedule to be campaigning in his home state today. but the hospitalization of his young ever daughter bella pushed his return. he is expected to be back tomorrow. the romney camp said they will pull all negative ads from pennsylvania while santorum is caring for his child. hogan gidley is the national communication director for the santorum campaign and joins me this morning. hogan, it's nice to have you
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here. the senator had played to take a break over easter and then bella became too sick. without getting too personal can you update us on bell will and then whether or not he will continue coampaign schedule tomorrow? >> thanks for the time. listen, the family is overwhelmed by the outpours of support and prayers they have received over the last few days. i can report that bella is doing extremely okay. the family hopes to take her home later on today if she gets the all clear from the doctor. it's been a miraculous turn around. they're very excited. today we had to cancel some events. but none of them were public. they were all private fund-raisers. but family has just been overwhelmed with everybody's support. appreciate the question. >> yes. certainly politics falls by the wayside when someone has a sick child they need to take care of. everybody understands that commitment does come first. pending doctor's orders the
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senator could be back on the trail tomorrow, depending on what the doctor says about bella? >> usually they wait to hear the all clear from the doctor before he gets back on the trail. it's happened one time before. we think he's going to be out. everything looks good. we have a full set of events tomorrow. we will be adding some events later this afternoon and releasing a schedule. we have a packed schedule. he will be back on the trail hard tomorrow. >> hogan, i do want to play you comments from baptist minister richard bland. you know his name. and on sunday his prominent movement conservative who advocated for an alternative to mitt romney had this to say. >> i would say to him, you know, you ought to seriously consider leaving the race now. in eight years he will be three years younger than romney is now. running for president is a very personal decision. when to get out is a very personal decision. he's going to have to make that. >> what minister talking about rick santorum me wanted an alternative to mitt romney and santorum might have been his man
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but now he says he should consider getting out. dooung the senator will be make daeg situation based on what the conservative party, the ideological conserve tys are saying about exiting? >> that's one guy. if we had been kowtowing the pressure from the establishment conservatives or movement conservatives we wouldn't have gotten in this ring early on. rick has done extremely well and there are a lot of folks in the movement who want an alternative to romney and a conservative voice. >> you discount the minister now, but you were embracing him before when he was supporting him. how can that be? discount him now but embrace him when you likes you? >> he was right then. he's wrong now. i don't have any problem saying that. the fact of the matter is we've got a lodge way to go still. it looks like there's a narrow path for us to take. we've got to do well in pennsylvania. we need to win that state. also texas, you heard about the movement afoot over the weekend that texas could be winner take all by simple majority.
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if that becomes the case we could have 155 delegates just overnight right now. polling very well in texas, way ahead of mitt romney. the worst scenario for the romney campaign is that rewin pennsylvania and the media all admits the month of may is very strong for rick and so as we move into the month of may we will be back to states favorable for us including texas. if we get that winner take all there that will be a huge boost to the campaign and big momentum heading into the convention. >> texas i want to talk to you in a second. you bring up pennsylvania. you said a victory in p.a. will begin the comeback for senator santorum. how far behind in the minds of republican voters do you think that senator santorum is right now in pennsylvania? >> yeah, i don't think he's too far back. seen polls that had him up 20, 18,6. p t the bottom line is it's his home state. he speaks their language. he goes into every corner and he
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has relationships in every corner pvo corner. you've got to remember, usually the nominee has been force fed to most of the electorate. pennsylvania will be a huge pivotal state in the primary and the general election as well. we know that as a campaign. it's important to do well there. it's important to win pennsylvania. we expect to that that. >> hogan, about texas. as you talk about it it could be in your wheelhouse potentially. you met with the texas governor rick perry last week in a private meeting, the senator did. do you want to break some news here? what was that news all about? >> no, i'm not going to break any news here. wasn't in the meeting. i've heard anecdotes. >> is it about trying to get his support away from newt gingrich? >> no. i mean, look, i think rick perry is behind newt gingrich. that's fine. i think he's probably going to stick with that until something changes with the gingrich campaign. but you know, we've got an important move in texas afoot right now and that's what we're looking at because if that state
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does switch to winner take all by simple majority it is a complete game changer for this delegate count and it would really hurt the romney campaign. they know that. we're trying to go down there and show that texas can be relevant in this process. again, a lot of these states, it's a new thing for them. they're never even on the radar because the nominee is chosen. this is a rare case where we would have a dogfight going on. texas is a pivotal player in that and could be more if they become winner take all by simple majority. >> hogan, great to see you today. thank you. >> thanks, thomas. god bless. >> i want to bring you our monday morning political panel. msnbc contributor and "washington post" political columnist dana milbank. dana, want to start with you. they came up short in wisconsin. illinois, ohio, michigan.
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in your estimation going forward, rick santorum has this big financial disadvantage coming up in his home state. he does have familiarity with the voters but is that enough to overcome the romney issue in pennsylvania? >> probably not, thomas. i think as hogan was suggesting pretty much everybody in our line of work is basically concluded that the race is over. he's correct. there is technically a farrow route here and it does require him to win pennsylvania. but that's more of a -- you've got so to sort of put ans asterisk on that right now. they say they know what the result is going to be, trying to figure it what the dignified end to this. for santorum dignified would be to win his home state. there is still a matter of drama and risk here but it's really all about rick santorum as opposed to the race at large. >> if they are scaling back on
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ads, that means money for later coming from the general for mitt romney. when we talk about pennsylvania does rick santorum need to do what he did in iowa, he went county to county, door to door, taking retail politics to the people. in pennsylvania he is well-known. as dana is pointing out this could be a real ego loss to him because of the fact that there is is, you know, potential to win it but it's a bigger disappointment to lose. >> it's a huge risk. it's also beyond ego. it's the end of his story. if he loses pennsylvania, he loses his home state. it's a horrible ending to w45 you mentioned earlier, ohio being able to go out there. i mean, iowa, excuse me, going out there and going door to door and came back and started this grass-roots campaign in spite of all the odds. if the door gets shut on him in pennsylvania, that's really not a good way to end his story when he does have a future ahead of him. >> doug, the president would love to see rick santorum and newt gingrich stick around politically. mitt romney all of the way up to
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tampa. the primary is nearing this finish line. what is the president's re-election team need to fine-tune over the next two months? >> well, i think that they need to zero in on a couple of key states where the president could be doing a little bit better. i think that this message that they have had on fairness is working. i would continue to do after mitt romney for a person who has taken multiple difference positions and flip-flopped on a variety of issues because that's really going to force mitt romney so to do one or two things. either continue to, you know, move more and more to the right, which is going to hurt him with independents and women and sure bur ban voter or flip-flop and back to the center and embrace what he used to have and that's going to really annoy some of the conservatives. i think that's why newt gingrich has said he's going to stay in the race, to prevent that from happening. >> we talk about gingrich, though, dana, let's remind everybody what with gingrich had
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to say this weekend about mitt romney. >> given the size of the organization, given the number of primaries he has won, he is far and away the most likely republican nom me. if he does get to 144 delegates, i'll support him and do everything this fall to help him defeat president obama. >> that is the most different gingrich than we have seen before. can newt gingrich be a help to mitt romney? >> i'm sure he would like to think of himself as being very helpful at this point. right, that's a man not running a campaign to win. he is running a campaign to keep romney ideologically pure. now, arguably, newt gingrich is even less relevant to this race right now than ron paul. whether he can, in fact, do that is somewhat questionable. it's very significant that newt gingrich who is practically lighting his famous hairdo on fire in an ability to turn people against romney is now saying, okay, i get it, i'm at peace. >> susan, dana is saying there that newt stays in this to keep
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romney ideologically pure. other people might contend it's to keep newt relevant in the mind of the republican party. which do you think it is? >> neither. what i think it is is is about for him to leave in a graceful way, for him to have one more way of -- a big speech or something so he can leave and leave on a high note instead of being -- >> like at the conventioconvent? >> or even a policy speech. he did very well during the debates. people have remembered him excelling at those. they want probably say he can do one more good thing and most importantly a way to retire his debt was he doesn't want that hanging around his neck. >> doug, before we go, the president is going to make a renewed political push for the buffett tomorrow, secretary who 35is a higher tax rate than buffett does. the president is wanting to raise taxes. how does he push past that gop narrative? >> i think he can point to ronald reagan.
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in 1994 he talked about tax fairness in the state of the union speech. this idea that people should be paying a fair rate i don't think is some, you know, wacky liberal idea. i think that's what most people believe in. i think it really pushes mitt romney into a corner and not only does he have to depefend paying less taxes, it's carried interests that benefit romney that he's going to have to deal with. i think it's a strong position for the president and his campaign to be pushing for. >> doug, susan, dana milbank, thanks to all three of you. a group of students protesting in sanford, florida, right now calling for action in the trayvon martin case and calling for civil disobedience. plus, with r. the republicans waging a war on women? top democrats disagree. i'm going ask the woman at the center of it all. we love gardening...
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the focus of the republican party on turning back the clock for women really is something that's unacceptable. >> if it's a democrat, if it's my cousin, it's wrong. and i think we need to stop that. it is damaging the body politic. and it's further separating the people in this country. >> democrats divided on whether the gop is waging a war on women. the opening volley in what some call a-war sounded off over this woman, sandra glfluke. fluke was denied at the hearing. her eventual testimony called by democrats ignited a fire storm that included radio host rush limbaugh who questioned flush and later apologized. >> i don't think that a statement like this issued saying that his choice of words was not the best changes
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anything. and especially when that statement is issued when he's under significant pressure from his sponsors. >> georgetown law student sandra fluke joins me live this morning. sandra, it's nice to see you this morning. it's been over a month since limbaugh spoke of you in derogatory term, demeaning you on his radio show. advertisers started to trickle back now. how do you feel that the backlash is waning and doing so in just a matter of weeks? >> well, i'm not particularly concerned about that. i think a very clear message has been sent by the women and men of america that when this type of language is used to try to silence women it will not be tolerated. and i think that message has been xleer and decisive regardless of any changes now. >> certainly it has provided for spirited debate in washington about whether the gop is actually waging a war on women. do you still believe that women's rights are under attack by republicans or democrats simply waging a better war for the women's vote? >> well, i'm not particularly
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concerned with labels about whether it's a war on women or it's not. i think the women of america are informed enough and intelligent enough to take a look at the bills that are being introduced in congress and in state legislatures around the country and decide wloshlt they think that type of legislation is supportive of their health and their rights or not. >> but the testimony that you gave on the hill was about talking about story telling and talking about your experiences as a woman and what you see at georgetown through the people on your own campus. so if you're not talking about labels, who do you think is doing a better job of telling the story of the american woman and the type of change that you're looking to see? who is doing a better squlob, the right or the left? >> i would say the american women are doing the best job at telling their own stories about this. i've had so many of them write to me. i've posted several of their stories on my tumbler website. and so they are the ones that we
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need to look to and that legislatures of any party need to look to in terms of what policies they should be advocating and what i'm hearing from women is that they want to know why the violence against women act isn't moving in congress, why the trafficking victims prevention reauthorization isn't moving in congress. that's what they're concerned about. >> when we talk about the fact that the birth control debate still wages on and you bring up excellent points other important bills and stalled conversations that aren't happening in washington, d.c. as look around the country there are certain catholic universities and xavier and sic cincinnati. there's a new rule to request a one-year delay before coverage. what would you say, sandra, to those who want cover ramg and they want to do something about this, they just don't know how? >> i'm working with campuses across the country to make sure that women, students, and faculty and staff know about the
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universities don't have to request this one-year delay and they can instead prioritize the health of the women on their campuses and begin offering contraception coverage now. rather than waiting for what is inevitable requirement for them to do so. >> you were invited to the white house last friday for a women's forum. some critics on the right have deemed you to be some type of obama operative that planted yourself into this role. how do you respond to that and what do you see your role as going forward in the national political debate? >> well, i just want to clarify. i believe you said i was invited to that and i don't believe i was. if i was invited i didn't get the invitation. but in terms of my role, i'm just trying to use what is is a somewhat unexpected platform and spotlight to bring attention to the policies that i care about and that i believe the women in america care about. policies like the violence against women act and prevention
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reauthorization act. >> sandra floouk fluke, thanks for your time. about 30,000 visitors at the white house today. look at this. it's the annual egg roll but not everyone is going for the fun and games. one couple, jerrod and les have more on their agenda. workplace discrimination. we'll talk to them. plus, residents of this apartment complex take a peek, are still cleaning up from friday's jet crash. amazing pictures. the navy is is making that task a little bit easier today. i'm walt gale, i worked at the colorado springs mail processing plant for 22 years. we processed on a given day about a million pieces of mail. checks, newspapers, bills. a lot of people get their medications only through the mail. small businesses depend on this processing plant. they want to shut down 3000 post offices, cut 100,000 jobs. they're gonna be putting people out of work everywhere.
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opportunity to speak to president obama face to face and urge him to take administrative action. join me now are there in attendance. going to be in attendance. we pulled them away from this. they've been together for 18 years. they have an 8-year-old daughter. gentlemen, it's good to have you here. as a family you've been invite to the participate. why make an attempt to get political with the president at an event like this? >> first, the easter egg roll itself is a political events. a lot of tickets given out are given out to organizations as a thank you or to please an organization. so when those are given out it's definitely a political event as is anything that is taken place in a white house. since this is the family events it's a perfect opportunity to talk about all of the thousand of families that can benefit from this action. >> the lgbt advocacy group wants
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justice and labor to approve an executive order that the president can sign which will basically scircumvent the act. les, are you concerned that president obama isn't going to do that, isn't going to sign this executive order? >> i'm not concerned that he's not going to sign it. i'm concerned about when he's going to sign it. i believe it will be signed. it's just a matter of time l. when will he sign it. i think it's time it gets signed. >> les, for you and your family personally, will it affect you? >> jerrod worked for a company that the government contracts through. we live in new mexico where we're actually protected and we don't have to worry too much about being discriminated against. however, in general moving to florida where that protection, we will no longer have that. and so it's going to personally effect our family once we move to florida in june without this
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adm administrative action jerrod could lose his job and then where will our family be. >> the administration is refusing to further the defense of marriage act. these are big accomplishments. jarrod, do you think the president considers this issue and other lgbt issues too haza d hazardous to re-election right now? >> there are people who say that might be a possibility. i don't think so. they just released a poll that shows that 73% of likely 2012 voter approve having a nondiscrimination policy for federal contractors. >> gentlemen, we're going to let you get back to the el roll with your 8-year-old. story to pull you away. thanks for making time for us today. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you for having us. the two men accused of a shooting rampage in tulsa, oklahoma, just made their first court appearance. bond was set for each. $10 million apiece, roughly. were the shootings just about revenge or racially motivated? plus, remembering the legacy of a long time newsman, the
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welcome back. developing news at this hour. a case of cold-blooded murder fueled by what oklahoma police suspect could be deadly combination of racism and revenge. the two male suspects making their first appearance in a tulsa court moment ace go, 19-year-old jake england and 33-year-old alvin watts each charged with murder in the good friday killing spree. a rampage that left two dead -- three dead, two wounded. victims of what investigators say may be a hate crime. >> this community will not be defined by the treacherous evil crimes of two individuals. that's not what tulsa, oklahoma, is about. that's not what our people are about. >> nbc's gabe gutierrez joins us live from the tulsa area with w. the very latest around outside the county courthouse. give us the breakdown of the charges and bail that's been set in this case.
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>> thomas, good morning. the district attorney says this case will be the highest priority. the initial court appearance, judge ordered both suspects to be held on almost $10 million bond each. both are charged with three counts of first degree murder. two counts of shooting with intent to kill. and one count of possessing a firearm while committing a felony. they are both due back in court on april 16th. now, one thing that wasn't mentioned at today's hearing was whether this was a hate crime. in fact, police here have been reluctant to call it that. only saying that they will be looking at all the evidence. among that evident is a facebook post that appears to have come from a younger suspect, 19-year-old jake england. it's since been taken down. hours before the shooting spree someone posted to that page writing about the two-year anniversary of the murder of england's father. he referred to the killer using a racial slur. in another entry posted on
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friday says, in part, quote, if something happens tonight, be ready for another funeral later. now, police are looking at what exactly that means. also reports that england may have been dealing with the loss of a girlfriend that reportedly took her own life a few months ago. all we know for sure right now is that both suspects are being held on almost $10 million bail. back to you. >> nbc's gabe gutierrez in tul is a, oklahoma, for us. could be the shooting death of trayvon martin. prosecutor could present their findings tomorrow to a grand jury. both sides are helpful her findings will be on their side. >> we expect it to be thor re. we expect it to be a just and fair and equal investigation, the way that all victims should be treated. >> people have jumped to conclusions, wrongful conclusions, i believe. i think once the investigation comes out, i think the country will see why the sanford police
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department made the decision they did at that time. >> all this as martin family supporters continue their outcry for justice. nbc news correspondent kerry sanders joins me live. while everyone wapits to see if they will come out for findings tomorrow she doesn't have to because this was based on another date, april 10th. >> exactly. let's go through eight little bit here. remember when this initially happened, the state's attorney here in seminole county ruled there were not going to be charges. then there was this uproar and a second look and the governor here, rick scott, in florida, decided to appoint a special prosecutor. she is autonomous, she is from a county in the jacksonville area. she is now reviewing with the help of the florida department of law enforcement, which is akin to like a state version of the fbi, gathering evidence, reviewing what's going on. as you noted, she could present
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that to the grand jury. but at the same time, she has the authority to review the ed herself and make a decision on whether charges are warranted or not. all of that is going on amid that backdrop just a short distance from where i am here in front of the police department there are a group of mostly college-aged kids who have gathered. they have been walking more than 40 miles for the past three days. they call themselves the dream defenders. and as you can see, they have gathered in front of the police department here and they are quietly in civil disobedience blocking the entrance. they have not tried to remove them. but the fear, of course, is that these 25 to 50 college-aged students who were there could turn into 100, could turn into 1,000. and they're very mindful after the occupy wall street about how something like this can grow very quickly and become a disruption. thomas? >> nbc's kerry sanders for us in
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san dord. thank you. president obama made national headlines when he spoke about the trayvon martin case weeks ago saying if he had a son, he would look like trayvon. how has america's first black president impacted this discussion of race and race relations in america? "newsweek" delves into the martin case and america's largest racial divide in an article titled "is obama making it worse"? joining me this morning is the author of the book "what would michelle do," ali solison samue. before the comment the president was criticized for not talking about martin's death and then after speaking, newt gingrich accused the president of making this all about race. i want to show everybody because news week poll found 78% of blacks said the comments were appropriate opposed to 28% of whites. why this difference in perception about the president's remarks? >> really he's in a no win situation. people accused him of injecting
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race into the trayvon martin case when race was already there. he was just simply picking an obvious poise point that as an african-american man trayvon could have been his son. why people took offense to that particular statement which was, in fact, very true is baffling to many. so many people are so uncomfortable with the race discussion, with the word of race and him saying that i could have been trayvon's father reminds america that he is an african-american man and i think many would like to forget that. >> some people that think that we leaped over and healed a racial divide that has existed in this country as we look at more information from the article when asked if ris achl was a problem in america, 60% of blacks responded yes, 19% of whites said yes. is there a sense that because we elected a black president many believe that america's race wounds have been healed? >> yes, i think that's very true. i have in the story a comment from chris rock where he made a
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se semi-joke once a black president is elected we won't be able to say anything about racism at all. i think that's exactly what's occurred here. the thought is we have an african-american in the white house. obviously people of all colors voted him in. what are you complaining about? but it really has made it more visibility, more sort of people now are sort of, pressing that anger or frustration that they hadn't expressed before because they have this visible, tangible person they can sort of feel and complain about when they feel things aren't going well. >> as you point out it's damned if you do, damned if id eed if strategy. we're all walking through this together who is the first or history. and trying to categorize how it should be parsed out when president obama is elected to repair the economy. getting out of two wars. you know, repair equality divides in this country and also heal a racial divide. is it too much to ask from one president? >> oh, i think it's absolutely too much to ask. and no matter who was elected this last election was going to
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face, you know, so many different obstacles. i think because hez african-american people expect it for some reason or not some myr miracles. he was going to be expected because he was given this opportunity, this favor to be the first african-american that he would be able to perform all of these miracles that were just not realistic. i think that anger as many people said, they have seen aen anger directed towards him they didn't see in other presidents. as they he created this problem. he is in this really, really bad situation of what do i do? if i bring up race i'm criticized. if i don't talk about race i'm also being criticize and hurting a group of people we make the point in the story he's not been able to deal with a lot of african-american issues because if he talks about race people get upset. so it really unfortunate situation for him. >> "newsweek's" allison samuels. nice to have you back on. >> thank you. here's a look at other sto e stories topping the news.
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naif fighter jet crashed in virginia beach last week will start getting rei'm borsed today. the navy said initial payments will begin at $2300. dozens of apartments were destroyed when the fighter jet crashed on friday. no deaths were reported. today the world remembering legendary broadcaster mike wallace, the veteran "60 minutes" interviewer has sat down with thousands of politicia politicians, heads of states and celebrities. wallace will be most remembered for his tenacious interviewed style which will liken to an interrogation. >> how many blacks are there on your top campaign staff, governor? >> i couldn't honestly answer you. >> that speaks for itself? >> uh? >> i said that speaks for itself? >> no, i can't tell how many people are on the staff. >> you can tell black from white. >> yes. >> he has been in ill 45e89 after retiring from full-time broadcasting in '06. he died on saturday at the age of 93. reports show that sony plans
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to cut 10,000 jobs as part of a new restructuring ble ining pla. that's 6% of the global workforce. japan's nikkei newspaper reports that the move is to make the electronics and entertainment company profitable again after four years in the red. it was one moffett owes memorable finishes in the 76-year history of the masters. bubba watson hits his tee shot into the weeds kind of there. and then he comes out of it to launch that shot right there. look at this man. breaks down and cries after winning the masters. bubba is a new father. just adopted a baby. he lost his dad last year. that's the shot that everybody is talking about. knocks it out of the woods there and straight on to the green. that is the shot that won watson his first major and his green jacket right there. being slipped on his back. back after this.
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welcome back. breaking news. i want to take you back to sanford, florida. nbc's kerry sanders is standing by. after we just finished talking we got word from the special prosecutor about what she wants to do. >> indeed. it's incremental step here pep we talked about whether she was going to take the evidence gathered and present it to a grand jury which meets tomorrow but now this prosecutor just released in a statement that she has decided not to use a grand jury in the trayvon martin shooting dealt investigation. it goes on to say the decision should not be considered a factor in the final determination of this case. the grand jury that was set to convene tomorrow was previously scheduled by the former prosecutor. and then finally, it says that she was appointed on march 22nd, which is a little bit of a background, at the time the investigation continues and there will be no further comment from this office.
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so it's an incremental step. what it means now is the information that has been gathered by the florida department of law enforcement and angela cory herself is going to be sifted through by her and her team that's been assembled and that she will make the final determination of whether charges are warranted or whether no charges are warranted. thomas? >> once again, the investigation continues which means that they most likely have not come to an determination as we were talking about before, everybody in sanford, around the world, for that matter, had had this date on the calendar of april 10th. this basically gives them more wiggle room to continue the investigation to come to some type of conclusion. >> i think it's time. you know, the one thing to remember here is that much of the criticism was the speed at which the state attorney's office concluded that no charges could be filed based on florida's stand your ground law. now it's important to remember that the special prosecutor has
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no deadline. she can take as much time as she needs to sift through this. when you talk about the world watching this, even the u.n. commissioner or high commissioner on human rights has weighed in saying that he believes there needs to be a u.n. investigation of violation of rights here in sanford, florida. so you are correct when you say the world is, indeed, watching this. >> kerry, either side can interpret this as being positive for their legal team, depending on how they want to spin this information. we're showing everybody live pictures outside the sanford police department where people have gathered. >> yeah, let me sort of but a little bit of, i guess, perspective on this. angela cory is an elected official in jacksonville. as a state attorney she's elected. the duvall county area is about one-third african-american, two-thirds predominantly white. so she is a political position
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at the end of the day because she gets elected. she is taking on this responsibility as the special prosecutor appointed by the governor with the clear understanding that when she comes to a conclusion, there could be repercussions for her political future because of the emotions that are tied up in this. and so there is not supposed to be outside influence. a prosecutor is supposed to look at the facts of the case and only the facts of the case, weighing in this particular case the balance of florida's stand your ground law. and when a prosecutor is supposed to do is to consider whether they have what they believe that they're going to bring charges, a case that they can actually present ultimately in a courtroom. and one of the most difficult things in this case is the lack of eyewitnesses. there are ear witnesses, people who are on the phone or heard something. there is one eyewitness who saw a disturbance before it turned
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fatal. that person disappeared from the scene. and so the only one person has spoken to the police and that is the gunman, george zimmerman, himself and his attorneys say he is now exercising his right to remain silence. so an gel will cory has not been afforded the opportunity to interrogate him, to ask him questions. if the police department here followed protocol, they at least videotaped their interrogation of him, their interview with him on that first night and so they can go back and review that and then sort of look at all the other details and perhaps the new evidence they have uncovered to determine whether charges are warranted. thomas. >> kerry, while we've been talking we've been showing aerial photos. the san sford police department office will be temporarily closed today due to the actions of student protesters. they're are currently occupying the space in front of the police department block the main entrance. this have minimal effect on
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police and fire response to emergency kuls. state attorney angela corey has decided not to use a grand jury in the trayvon martin shooting death investigation. the grand jury was set to convene april 10th. that was scheduled previously by the prosecutor assigned to this case before special prosecutor angela corey stepped in. kerry sanders helping me out with this in florida. thanks so much. we'll be back with much more after this. in america, we believe in a future that is better than today. since 1894, ameriprise financial has been working hard for their clients' futures. never taking a bailout. helping generations achieve dreams. buy homes. put their kids through college. retire how they want to. ameriprise. the strength of america's largest financial planning company. the heart of 10,000 advisors working with you, one-to-one.
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welcome back, everybody. the president's message to voters since early december and what we're going to hear from both the commander in chief and the vice president this week is that every american deserves a fair shot. it's the latest slogan, taken up by an administration and re-election team hoping they've found the phrase that sticks with voters.
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anne kornblut is political editor for it the "washington post." it's nice to see you. we've been hearing that phrase if spare shot." it used to be we can't wait and winning the future. do you think the re-election team is comfortable riding the slogan a fair shot all the way to november? >> we'll find out. it's been interesting to watch. over the last year and most recent months, they have not really settled on a single slogan the way they did in 2008. i think everyone remembers hope and change and certainly change you can believe in. and there has not been one single resonating phrase. i think in part because it's trickier, right? he's the president managing many different things now. he's also got a record he's running on. it can't be gauzy and vague the way it was in 2008. it needs to be concrete and specific. it seems as though they've been road testing a few. >> let's remind wonks and not
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wonks about successful slow bans. ronald reagan, it's morning again in america. bill clinton's bridge to the 21st century. they may not be what sticks with a president but how important are they in that moment of time? >> to the extent they resonate, they can be very important. if they ring true. you think back to 2000 and george w. bush compassionate conservative meant something. he was a different kind of republican. if they ring true and encompass what the president or the incumbent stands for it can be extremely power. obama in the 2008 might be one of the best examples of that. >> now it will be yes we did, and is it going to be we need to do it again. >> exactly. >> great to see you, ann, i appreciate it. that's going to do it for me today. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 11:00 eastern.
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nor chuck grassley is calling the president stupid, representative vick a hart is saying he wasn't born here and karl rove thinks he's conspiring with the easter bunny. who said we couldn't all get along. it's monday april 9thence, and this is "now." joining me robert tray nam, an lishal menendez joan walsh of salon.com and nbc news very own, my celebrity dopple ganger luke russert. some republicans are showing little sign of relinquishing their personal attacks on obama. senator chuck grassley had a busy weekend on twitter. in 2001 tweet about the supreme court showdown over health care, he wrote the american people are not as "stupid as the formerly constitution it will law professor," and in other

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