tonight's lead, cutting through the gop spin on women and work. we start at today's convention for the national rival association which was willard romney's big chance to win over gun toting conservatives to convince them he is one of them despite his past positions. >> there is one more person i would like to introduce. this is a hero of mine. i happen to believe that all moms are working moms, and if you have five sons, why your work is never over, my sweet heart ann romney. >> let me give a shout out to all moms that are working. and by the way, to all dad that's are working. we love all of you. >> moms are heros. isn't that a different conversation than expected at a

national gun convention. ann romney's appearance came one day after a tv pundant said ann never worked a day in her life. republicans have pounced on this one, this one comment they have gone over and over again, and they used it to gloss over their attacks on women's health. and the serious deficit compared to the president. it's hypocrisy at it's finest. >> the message seems to be that why is is it that some on the left choose to divide and insight instead of just respecting women's choices. >> respecting women's choices, like the right to choose. remember who your candidate is, willard is the man who said this about planned parenthood.

>> planned parenthood, we're going to get rid of that. >> get rid of that, romney is good at getting rid of things that benefit women especially. the gop budget that romney is so in love will with cut funding for programs that support low income women. programs like head start, the women, infants, and children program, and food for pregnant mothers. this guy is the new champion for women's rights? his own campaign didn't know if he supported a law requiring equal pay for women, just listen to this exchange. >> does governor romney support the lilly ledbetter act? >> we'll get back to you on that. >> no, willard, it's women voters that are going to get back to you this fall, and you're not going to like the

response. joining me now is melissa harris-perry, and chris hayes. great to have both of you, thank you for your time. >> melissa, let me start with you. the romney team jumped on these comments quickly. >> look, this was an unforced error. the comments themselves take us away and distract from what a war on women is in terms of policy. the language that says that a mother of five has never worked a day in her life is an easy way for them to start this momming wars conversation. it was interesting for sarah palin to weigh in because she used it to great effect. any criticism coming to her she

can say i'm the mom of young children, i'm a household manager, it's a real sweet spot and it give them a chance to go right for that sweet spot. >> chris, i think what bothers me is let's face it. the person that said it was a pu pundanot on a cable station. they inflated this like it was a position they have taken for or against the democrats. if you look at the polls, president obama verses mitt romney, the president is opening a big lead. this month, he leads by 19 points. so it's like they had to create some kind of battle with an opponent that is not even an official or even unofficial

representative of their opponent. >> there is no connection between what hillary rosen said and the campaign aside from creating a position that they can position themselves with women voters that doesn't have have to have any substantive content to it. they have a problem with women voters, right, but they can't turn arn and say everything we just said about birth control and the affordable care program and getting rid of title ten, they just can't repudiate all of those positions because it would look ridiculous.

so they need to appeal to women without doing sub substantively. they started trotting out ann romney because it was like, well i know a woman, in fact i have been married to one, so how can i wage a war on women? so what they need to do until election day is come up with rhetorical ways -- >> it's like the politics of distraction. at the end of the day they created a straw person that has nothing to do with the real debate, the president, and his policies. when you look at the fact that mitt romney among women voters, let's deal with his unfavorability, he is way higher than any other candidate in this race. in 2004, kerry at a $53% favor

rating. and i say women, but mccain at 55% favorable verses 36% unfavorable. similar numbers for president obama. he had 56%. >> look at romney, he is just 37% favorable verses 49% unfavorable. so when your general favorability is that lop sided, and you can't turn around to the base and say i take all of that back because i'm going for independent voters, you have to create fights with straw men and women and hope it's a real fight. >> it's a strawman, but remember this -- let's talk about the presidential marriage as a way of talking about our gender and politics, that is is is old. so the romney campaign did not

create this. we have see over and over again, let's go back to recent presidents, and this whole question of her having been rodham, and a whief with your surname meant you weren't man enough to be president. michelle obama initially on the campaign trail, she would talk about him leaving his dirty socks or having stinky breath. if you can't control your wife in public, how will you manage heads of state. so when you have a reassertion of this traditional narrative about mother and wife, is that all, again, as chris was saying, the theatrics, is we care about these kinds of families, and this is the kind of america we want where a sweet heart from high school gets married to the one man, and they raise their five kids and who needs birth

control in the situation like that if you just make all of the right choices. it's reasserting that. >> even in those scenarios they're using wives, you're using somebody here that has nothing to do with the president. he doesn't -- i mean he may know them, but has no, i mean no connection at all. and then just outright lies. all week romney has been saying that the president, 92% of the job loss -- let me show you this. >> it's just not true. >> let me show you this -- >> 92.3% of the job losses during the obama years have been women who have lost those jobs. >> of the 800,000 plus job that's have been lost during the obama administration, do you know what percentage have been lost by women?

92%. >> do you know what percentage of those jobs lost were lost by women? over 92%. >> now president obama responded, let me play his response he just made. >> everybody who looked at this claim knows it's bogus. what he doesn't mention, obviously, is that all of these job losses, both men and women, took place as a sequence of the worst financial crisis and economic crisis we have seen since the great depression. and the vast bulk of them happened before i was worn into office or a few months right after i was sworn in. a direct result of the policies he wants to go back to. >> so, and i wanted to play that, of course, as you say melissa this is totally bogus, but i wanted people to see for themselves that he is saying it over and over again. i want them to hear this bogus claim come out of his lips at

least three times. >> we were cracking up watching it, it's patently false. >> but it's ridiculous and rings ridiculous to anybody who has lived in the actually world. it's like saying 160% of the job losses from been women. >> be chairful, chris, he might be listening and use it tomorrow. >> it doesn't matter, because as long as their moms their still working. no such thing as an unemployed woman. >> let's bring back the policies that cause all of the job losses while wer 're at it. thank you for your time and please watch their shows, i do. first from 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 aim is up with chris hayes, and melissa harris-perry from 10:00

a.m. to noon. president obama repleases tax returns and dares romney to do the same. plus, willard is trying to score points at the nra, but let's not forget how the gun laws have literally have life or death consequences. also, why george zimmerman's lawyer may try to get the judge tossed off the case before it even starts. what it means in the trial seeks justice for trayvon martin. people with a machine.

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we're back with the issue of guns in america. in the wake of trayvon martin's shooting death, there is a laser focus on the controversial stand your ground law. it allows people to use deadly force if they reasonably believe their safety is threatened. it's been called the shoot first law, and it's been at the center of controversy. so where did it come from? it was created by the national rifle association, and the nra has been the driving force

behind the law. they got stand your ground on the books in florida. since then it pushed the law in 24 more states, and it doesn't stop there. remember the shooting of gabrielle giffords and it panned the sale of high capacity ammunition magazines? why would anyone need to carry around a .09-millimeter glock with 36 rounds? >> it is great to be with so many friends here today from the national rifle association. >> yes, friends. the friends that drew up the stand your ground law. he pretends he one of them, but

the truth is he has been in every chamber of the six shooter. zle with tough gun laws in massachusetts, i support them, i won't chip away, they protect us and provide for our safety. >> i don't line up 100% with the nra. >> even with that sound, can you really believe this guy? >> i'm not a big game hunter, i made it clear, i'm a rodent and rabbit hunter, small varmentes if you will. i started when i was 15 and hunted like that some time. >> u remember you were teased for saying you hunted varmentes, have you gone hunting since 2007. >> i won't explain all of my

great exploits, i went elk hunting. >> joining me now are two guests, thank you both for being with us. bob, a champion for the nra? >> this is really interesting. first of all the demand is slip sliding over his past positions, but beyond that we have the spectacle of him coming before the nra, an organization that wants to expand the right of instruments of death, by evidenced what happened in florida, so it's in that context, and here he is groveling before the national rifle association and very transparently changing positions. i don't think it's unfair to see if this really calls into question his character.

>> the problem, erin, is that the base doesn't trust him yet. and the nra is a big part of that base. when you have polls showing that romney is beating other republicans by just a very slim margin among these groups, romney's lead is less than 10 points. midwestern republicans, young republicans, religious republicans, he has to build up some enthusiasm in his base. >> he does, and he unofficially game the nominee this week when rick santorum got out of the race, and this speech was scheduled before rick got out of the race. if you read some of the coverage that's come out over the last day with mitt romney going to this convention, it's clear that many of these single issue gun owners and voters don't seem to

be that enthused by mitt romney. the other thing i would point out to you is if you look toward the general election, and you have these single issue gun voters, back in 2008, the obama campaign made a push to get those voter inss in a number of states, and that's how they won indiana by targeting people, so if that's your only issue, look to something else. the obama campaign is doing that in states like ohio, missouri, and other midwestern states. >> you tell me the base, he has been accused -- he looked silly talking about shooting varments, he has been pandering, look at what he says and how he has been justifiably criticized on both sides of this.

>> this is like a sardine can in here, we're all nice and wet. last night i was in mississippi by the way and had catfish. i'm learning to say y'all, and i like grits. i like this state, the trees are the right height, i like seeing the lakes. >> he just panders and saying thi -- says things that make him look silly. >> for those of us that cover politics he is the gift that keeps giving. he really is. a question, i don't know what a varment is, but it's not safe around mitt romney. so he is trying to etch-a-sketch hit point about guns to pander to that constituency. and he combined it, interestingly, with trying to

exploit more of the obama advantage with women. he sometimes appears to be d disingenuous which means borderline liar. >> he has a real delicate balance because he has to go at the base but not lose the independents. because if you take a listen to this, he only used the word gun one time with this. so he is trying to be one of them, but he's also not trying to give a lot of sound bites that would hurt him with independents. >> we need a president obama that will not create burden laws. president obama has not, i will. >> the only time he used the word gun in front of the national rifle association. >> it's a fascinating thing we will see in the next six months is a pivot to the general

election, and just as we say to cpac, i was a severely conservative republican governor. we might not even here conser conservely over the next few months. he is trying to connect with voters, and he has done that for the last five years. >> when you look at the lack of enthusiastic spot, march of 2012, romney's support was 35% enthusiast tick. in february john mccain was 37% enthuse yas tick. when your enthusiasm is that low in your base, he's trying to get his base up, but at the same time having to watch out for independents, he has a real, real delicate balance and a hard way to go. >> he does, but i think i want to put a little context here. the one thing that republicans

are united about is beating barack obama. the democrats would probably be more enthusiastic if they were voting against a newt gingrich or rick santorum. in that case for democrats, he is a big dangerous. >> bob franklin and erin mcpike, thank you for your time and both of you have a great weekend. still ahead, there would be a big chance, and a big change in the george zimmerman case. some develop wants out of florida today. [ male announcer ] capri sun has 25% less sugar

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welcome back, folks, tea party freshman allen west has been dominating headlines with his efforts to bring us back to the cold war. >> i believe there is about 78 to 81 members of the democratic party that are members of the communist party. >> communist party? yes. a u.s. congressman is calling 80 of his colleagues communist. three days later, and this is what we're hearing from the republican leadership.

>> crickets, nothing, speaker boehner is not denouncing this garbage. at least he is consistent. he has not taken on the birthers either. and now he is trying to cash in. he e-mailed his supporters saying "i stand by the point of my comments and i need you to stand with me today by making a contribution of $10 or more". >> he is using this to fundraise, the leaders must be speaking out to denounce this, right? >> nope, nope. crickets again. nothing, eric kan tcanter goes silent. we think it's really in poor taste. did the gop think we wouldn't notice their convenient silence

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welcome back to "politicsnation." we have some big news tonight. the los angeles times is reporting that willard romney released his taxes from the last 12 years. the "washington post" says, "only romney has been willing to talk about his financial affairs" they also said that governor george romney put all presidential contenders on the spot. wait, that's the wrong romney. those articles are from 1967 with mitt's father, george, became the first presidential candidate. he only released one full year's returns showing he made $21.6 million, but he paid a tax rate

of just 13.9%. that's far blow what many middle class people pay. people that make a lot less money are paying more in taxes. president obama wants to change that. he wants the rich to pay more, and romney wants him to pay less. the vice president was on the road thursday talking about it. >> the romney rule says let's double down on tax cuts for the wealthy. that's another trillion dollars in tax cuts going to the top 1% of american taxpayers. i don't blame her for crying, she is going to inherit it. >> joining me now is jared bernsteen, and maria kumar,

thanks for coming on the show. >> thank you. >> jared, let me start with you, the president released his new tax returns today. it showed obama paid just over 20% in an income of $790,000. the president's plan would make wealthy people like him pay more, isn't that just sumply fairness? >> i think it is and a lot of people are thinking about the buffet rule, of course, and even with an income of almost 800,000, you would not want to get over the buffet rule it's over a million. let's not forget that the president is proposing to increase tax rates on folks above $250,000. this is the sunsetting of the high end bush tax cut. it should have happened awhile ago. this is a tax cut that expires

at the end of this year with a bunch of others. i think most important, reverend, is you know we have a couple of rich people arding for about stuff, $800,000 puts you up in the income scale. the median income is $50,000 and those folks are struggling and there's a lot of people below that that are struggling too. they're asking what are these guys going to do to help my situation and i think that's the key question here. >> i think maria he hit the nail on the head by saying, when you're dealing with the average american, working and struggling, and paying more taxes than those making 10 and 20 times more than they make, is it fair to them?

>> i think you're absolute lit right, what is happening right now is between the buffet plan and ryan plan is how they see two worlds. president obama says i'm making a lot more money than the average american, tax me more. mitt rom any is saying i'm uber rich, tax me less and let's tack the poor so i can get off scott free. what we need to have is an honest conversation about individuals in this country, when they pay taxes, it's an investment in our future, an investment in stimulating our education and infrastructure and investment in our innovation and where we're going in the next 50 years. the fact that the wealthy who reaped the benefits don't want to reinvest in america. that saying something larger about where we're going. it's fair for americans to say i pay 35%, and mitt romney and the president pay less than 20,

there is something twisted going on. >> jared, the point in this throughout this election, is really going to come down to people feeling that it is either fair or unfair. and the part of the republicans and mitt romney's defense has been well, if the wealthy are able to maintain more money, it translates into jobs, but there's no way they can show that that is the case. >> right, i think people have to realize you can dress that up any way you want, but at the end of the day that's pure trickle down economics. it's supply side, and one thing that's pretty rare in economic social security to have a kind of a real controlled experiment. we did that big time in the 2000s with the push deregulatory cut taxes at the high end, trickle down supply side agenda.

what we saw the just about the worst business cycle for expansion. and so we tried that. been there done that. and i think what we were just talking about is particularly germa germane. if you look at the ryan budget, you're talking about cutting away the safety net, you're talking about reducing the ability of government to help people who need help. to achieve retirement security and make the kinds of investments that would with all of the inequality that we have. it's a huge assault on basic, fundamental good economics. >> maria, let's look at that romney plan a minute. under ryan's plan which romney supports, taxes rise for the poor. wealthy see massive tax cuts. now if you're below $200,000, if you're at one million, it's a

$265,000 fax cut. you're looking at a real, real unfair scenario as far as i'm concerned, and when you look at the buffet plan, most persons are supporting the buffet plan. gallop just came out with a poll saying 60% of all voters, 63 of all independents support the buffet plan. you have the ryan plan that helps the rich, you have the buffet plan that says let's have fairness, that's the politics, marie. >> absolutely, the last time america informs this deep recession was the great depression. it was those strategic government plans paid by american taxes that allowed us to create a robust middle class that we have enjoyed. it's time right now again to ensure that everybody is paying taxes fairly, every time someone

writes a check it's an investment in america and not sending it off to offshore economics. it has to be a strategic investment and they're seeing that either the rich gets richer or you distribute the wealth. >> all right, thank you for your time, both of you have a great weekend. >> you too. >> still ahead, big developments in george zimmerman's case. his attorney may try to disqualify the judge. everything that i've gained in life

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journalist. and john burris. thank you both for your time and for joining me tonight. let me start with you, katherine. is it significant that this judge might be forced to step down from the case? >> the way you phrased it, yes. but since there haven't been proceedings yet, it's not that it would be a problem. i don't see that an analyst in her husband's law firm is a conflict that would require the judge to recuse herself. unless you can show more of a relationship, i don't think this is a rescuesble circumstance. >> let me go to you, john. the lawyers have staked out where they are. you have the special prosecutor,

and mr. o'mara. he has represented a serial killer, gang members, known for calm, savvy litigation style. and almost from the beginning he has shown sympathy to the family, he has not come off as amateur like like his predecessors in handling this case. he has tried to be cool and calm and respectful. you have on the other hand the prosecutor who has been very compassionate, raising the pain of the parents, the loss of life, so we're seeing their styles and thae playing to potential juries. >> the defense lawyer approach is a sound one that i think is highly professional, and he needs to calm everybody down. he needs to hone in on his particular strategy, keep all of the distractions away, and make

sure everybody says focused on the case. at the same time, what defense wants to say, we have all of this emotion, this passion, but when you look at these facts on these facts, you can see that everyone wants to keep an open mind and to calm down. and to suggest that he doesn't have any kind of negativism towards the family, he is just doing his job, and that's the approach he will take and it's a good approach. >> catherine, a lot happening this week, what do you think we're looking at and what do you predict? >> i certainly think that we're going to have to take a deep breath because both the prosecution and defense want a little time, particularly the defense. they obviously need time to prepare as omar ra has said, i want things to simmer down, before i seek the bail bond hearing, before we move forward, let it get a little more dispassionate. he has been very good about

saying there may be real problems with stand your ground laws, but in fact i believe my client can avail himself of the law as it stands. so it's clear he will concede. there could be problems with the statute, that's very smart. but at the same time if it applies, he should be able to assert that particular defense, a wise strategy on his part. >> john, let's look at what the prosecutor and mr. o'mara said about the issue. >> if it's an issue we fight it. if it becomes an issue in this case we will fight that affirmative defense. >> that statute has some troublesome portions to it and we're going to have discussions and conversations about that as a state, but right now it's the law of florida, and the law that

will have impact on this case. >> so, that's where both of them are, how do you read that, john? >> i think what the defense lawyer is saying look, there is a lot of public discussion about this law now, and it may get amended and issues, it may not be applied properly, but in this case he is going to apply it, make no mistake about it. the mistake is not about the low itself, it's how you apply the facts. he is going to make this approach, the prosecution knows she will be v to defend this issue, and she thinks it will be successful because of the chasing and all of that. but at the same time, this will be a major element in the case and more importantly even if they lose, the defense lawyer knows he will get another bite out of the apple at the trial. he knows he will get two shots in this case. >> we saw in the affidavit that

was filed by the prosecution on probable cause, that the road map of where she is going, one zimmerman confronted martin, and trayvon martin martins mother identified her son's voice on the 911 tape. if in fact this is how the prosecution is proceeding that would be problematic to have a stand your ground defense to these -- >> absolutely, in a stand your ground defense, you need to be acting lawfully, and then, you know, someone else an aggressor comes at you and you fear seriously bodily harm or death, and you respond accordingly. the facts that the prosecution is asserting and we will see at the time of trial is that in fact, he was the aggressor, he was threatening trayvon martin, trayvon martin was crying for

help, and so she certainly was confident in pursuing second-degree murder that she had the facts to support that and we will see as the case unfolds. >> that's right, thank you both. thanks to you both and have a nice weekend. >> you too. >> thank you. >> coming up, the long road to justice, that's next. [ male announcer ] capri sun has 25% less sugar

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my heart is broken. >> the police have now finally released the 911 tapes in the case. >> are you following him? >> yeah. >> okay we don't need you to do that. >> okay. >> trayvon martin's mother and father have not asked an eye for an eye, they're just asking for an arrest. wouldn't you want that if that was your child? >> i must temporarily remove myself from the position as police chief for the city of san form. >> he died right up the sidewalk here, he did not deserve to die. >> from the day i heard about the trayvon martin case, i made it very clear that we're not asking for a conviction, we're asking for an arrest. >> this is not about a black and white thing, this is about a right and wrong thing. >> we're going to take as much time as we need to find out every fact and circumstance.

>> george was out of breath, barely conscious. >> this new tape seems to refute key portions of zimmerman's defense and raises troubling questions about the police. >> when you look at this videotape, do you think it backs up your client's claims or might it contradict them? >> i don't think it does either one, it's very grainy. >> we could see no physical signs like there had been a scuffle or a fight. >> the lead investigator from the sanford police department stood in my family room and told me this was absolutely not self dechs and they needed to prove it. >> nbc news can report two agents from the special prosecutor's office are canvassing the twin lakes area where trayvon was shot right now. >> breaking news tonight, george zimmerman's defense team quits. >> we're withdrawing his counsel. >> there's now one person in the

world with the power to arrest george zimmerman and that's angela corey. >> today we filed an information charging george zimmerman with murder in the second degree. with the filing of that and the issuance of the capias, he will have to appear, and within 24 hours prosecution will begin. >> first of all i want to say thank god. >> we only know one category as prosecutors and that's a v, it's not a b, w, or h, it's v for victim, that's who we work tirelessly for. >> when i first was called by the lawyer and family and many of us in the civil rights community, we wanted an arrest. we felt that this young man's life was worth something and his family should have answers. this week we got that arrest. a lot of people have a lot to