success in life. he was born poor. he worked his way to become very successful despite the fact that he didn't have a college degree. >> and the obamas versus the romneys. who wins miss congeniality? the look at the new poll coming up ahead. cleaning house, the secret service forces lee agents out. will more heads roll as the scandal widens today? plus remembering america's oldest teenager. >> here's what they call the twist. >> >>:v tv legend dick cavett joins us. and one of the stars who plays chief of staff to tv's new female vice president. >> what am i supposed to do, eat around the corners? here, take this, please. >> we could give a post on your

new jobs commission. >> and a presidential moment. president obama in michigan sits on the famed bus that rosa parks rode at the ford museum. good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. in our daily fix today, michelle obama is increasingly active on the campaign trail and late night television. in an exclusive first look at our new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll, it's clear why. 54% of americans have positive views of the first lady. she's more popular than ann romney, but both spouses trump their husbands. chuck todd host of the daily run "do you know" is with us. chuck, first to you. it's your poll. this is our first look at it. and you know the numbers so well. and looking through these numbers, michelle obama clearly, she is on top. >> these a big asset. and no doubt and we're seeing

her, she's a consistent person on the trail. though they're not putting her in front of cameras too often in political settings. when it comes to michelle obama, she's the second biggest fund raiser in the campaign. she's the second most requested person by senate candidate and house candidates. they prefer if you can't get the president and in many cases there's some senate races where she is more preferred than the president himself. and she's certainly ahead of vice president biden. what's interesting there about the ann romney numbers, people are still getting to know her. she's got -- a lot of people -- >> 27% favorable, 17% negative. >> but that's a huge number of people. you still have more than half the country not yet having an opinion either way. so even with all that attention last week, still shows you maybe only the medical junpolitical j playing attention. >> let's take a look inside the numbers.

when you look inside the numbers, you see mitt romney has something of a gender gap. but he really has a latino gap. >> yeah, and i just think we've talked about this, i think we'll continue to talk about it. you have the latino community growing half of all population growth over the last ten year, half of all population growth in it country came among the latino community. republicans know the kind of professional republican set know they have a latino problem largely connected to their policies on immigration, the republican primary was not helpful in that regard. you've seen people most notably jeb bush, florida governor say we need to fix this. this is a problem not just for this election, though clearly a problem, mitt romney can't lose hispanic voters, but it's an even bigger promise down the line, 2016, 2020, 2024. the hayes pispanic community wip

growing. republicans cannot lose them and hope to be a majority party in this country that their strategists know that. their candidates on the other hand i think the base of the party still feels very strongly and the candidates at least in the primary didn't want to cross them. see if romney does anything to try and address that problem. >> of course he made it worse for himself considerably worse in the primaries with what he said about immigration policy. john mccain was a hero to many latinos for at least trying to advance immigration reform. but that is of course the republican problem is of course why we're hearing so much about marco rubio as a vice presidential nominee and he has his own day dreams. listen to what he said at a national journal panel at the newseum today. >> three, four, five, six, years from now, if i do a good job as vice president -- i'm sorry. if i do a good job as a senator

instead of vice president, i'll have a chance to do -- i'll have a chance to do all sorts of things. >> and you can't blame our friend major garrett who was obviously doing that interview for cracking up. we're all cracking up. i mean, that's the kind of thing where a swlip of the tongue, freudian swlip, whatever you want to call it, but he's clearly thinking about it. >> he is, but i don't think -- you talk to long time republican strategists, it just simply putting an hispanic on theic ket is going to heal the wounds. it's a lot more work than that. and i think this is a serious argument. people close to rubio will say he could do more to heal this in the senate, become the leading voice on immigration. >> and can he open the conversation, but the policies have to follow. >> and all sorts of other reasons that he may not be the nominee this time. it's not in romney's nature tole roll the dice on somebody in the national spot lights if two

years. marco rub io has you obviously been asked about it a lot. if we can't be the first poll out, better to be the last and definitive gold standard. >> hey, i will be at 6:31, i will be hitting refresh on the msnbc site. >> thank you very much. the three agents connected to the secret service prostitution scandal leaving the agency are not likely to be the last to go. kristen welker joins us now. we're hearing from the hill a lot of reports that others will be forced out either fired or forced to resign. >> reporter: that's absolutely right. luke russert reporting from the hill that congressional sources telling him that we can expect another announcement as early as today that more personnel from the secret service may be heaving as a result of this

prostitution scandal. as you know yesterday was a big day, big announcement which came in the evening that one supervisor would be retiring, one essentially fired, and then another nonsupervisor resigning. and at the same time, you have eight others under investigation who are still on administrative leave, they have had their security clearances revoked while these investigations continue. we're also learning that that supervisor who was fired is it plan to sue. so we're trying to get more details about that. but there are investigationsing for on on several fronts. you have investigators from the secret service, from the d.o.d., on the ground in alcohol bcolom trying to figure out if they were able to take any sensitive information from the secret service personnel. as we understand it right now, they haven't actually been able to contact the women, but that's what they busy trying to do today. you also have investigators on the hill, representative peter king, who has assigned three

investigators to look into this matter. the pressure is really mounting on director mark sullivan for answers. and i and i want to read just a quick note that he got today from members of the oversight committee. it says the facts raise questions about the agency's culture, secret service agents and officers made a range of bad decisions from drinking too much to engaging with prostitutes. and it goes on. that's from darrell issa and elijah cummings. so the pressure is mounting and the pafallout continues. >> kristen welker, thank you very much. and breaking news now. a search and rescue operation is under way off the coast of florida where a small private plane has gone down after the pilot apparently fell unconscious. pete williams has been following the story throughout. pete, take us through it. this is a small plane obviously a private plane. and whether he lost oxygen for whatever reason, he clearly was

unconscious when he went into the water. >> that's the way it seems. we have a little map. this is the track of the the plane after it took off this morning from slydell, louisiana on its way to sarasota. and the track of the plane shows it starts in a pretty straight direction, then it begins to drift to the south. and then those little circles are just what the plane started doing for a couple of hours after it took off. it just kept going up and down and around and around in circles. the air force noticed this track, sent some planes out to try to look into the win did he, but couldn't see in because apparently the windows were iced over. and that's a potential sign that the plane which is normally pressurized could have lost pressure and that could have caused the pilot to become unconscious. the air force continued to track it as did the coast guard, the coast guard dispatched a cutter and some other aircraft to try to watch it. they warned ships in the area to try to watch out for this plane, so now as you say, it's an effort to try to get to the wreckage and see what they can

recover. now, this is not the plane, but this gives you an idea what have a cesssses cessna 421 looks lik. a small aircraft, not intended to carry a lot of people. it was on its way to sarasota, florida and now the question is what exactly happened and can they get to the wreckage. >> pete williams, thanks so much. dick crash. what you can say. he was dubbed the world's oldest teenager. he transformed american music, american dance, cultural morays. american bandstand launched the careers of just all of the most celebrated musicians of our time, including father of rock and roll as well as hedlegend l james brown, the supremes, the jackson 5, they all made their national tv debuts on bandstand, a program that also helped break down racial wear ybarriers. who can forget this.

>> ladies and gentlemen, here's chubby checker. ♪ >> or the jackson 5, including, verse, the young michael jackson. >> the jackson 5. ♪ >> and by 1984, an up and coming pop singer, obviously madonna, making her debut on bandstand. dick cavett joins us on the phone. dick, thank you so much for joining us. we also have california congress map david dreyer.

first to you, dick. you appeared i think more than 80 times on the pyramid shows. i want to show a brief exchange of you of course with dick character. >> you realize you're the first person in 13 years this show has been on the air ever thought to transmit code with their eyelids? >> that and he how i've been winning all these years. >> i think we might detect it. >> dick, i went back and looked at the whole episode and you went on and gave such brilliant could yous that your contestant won everything. but tell us about dick character. clark. >> he was a deceptive individual to me. for one thing, we shared a problem. every time we met, he'd say how many are dick clarks did you get and i would say how many dick cavetts did you get. but it happened all the time.

he was deceptive in the fact that i think his great popularity had to be the fact that something to do anyway with the fact that he seemed unremarkable in a way. unthreatening. friendly. but not airbly remarkable, maybe not terribly brilliant. and yet of course he had to be to do the things he did, to accomplish what he did. had to have the acute business sense that he had. and to be funny. our relationship would be things like on the air he'd say our ne next guest comes all the way from florida. and i said if she hasn't come all the way, she wouldn't be here. and well giggle and have a nice time. i once busted their budget for the week having never been on the show pretending i had seen it and therefore not having any nerves. after that i learned at you how nerve-racking it was and it was never so easy. but he even got me into an investment of his once and it was one of his few disasters.

some kind of video cassette type thing that was going to replace all of the social media and so on. though they weren't social then. and i ran into help one day and i said what shall i do with my big player that i still have since obviously this thing has tanked. and he said do you have a boat? and i said yeah. and he said do you need an anchor? i didn't tie it up and use it as one. but i wish he had written a book about his -- not only his business skills, but his techniques for bringing things to the public, to making things work. he said he claimed to love to sit this business meetings. would kill me. where people discussed such tactics and things. complicated guy. have you found anyone who thinks he was a rat just for variety? >> no. >> i don't know any. >> that's the amazing thing.

everyone liked him so much. congress congressman, you just had dinner with him a couple weeks ago. we know he was suffering. but he had had i guess a series ofandrea, let me tell you, he wasn't suffering. let me tell you that dick cavett is wrong. dick clark just recently told me that while he encouraged dick cavett to invest in that came set thing, he noous it was going to be a flop so he never actually put a penny into it himself. so i just wanted you to know that. >> love it. >> now you tell me. wonderful. >> and i will tell you that everything he did touch turned to gold. he was -- >> this turned to grass. >> i know, and that's why i'm telling you, he didn't touch it, he put it all on your shoulders. >> now you have a whole new image of him an certainly of you. >> thanks. >> and i was going to say his

youthfulness was one of the wonders of the age. but finally when he got into his 80s, he did begin to look at least 50. >> yeah, well, not quite. i will tell you that i want to shatter this myth that you just threw out there, andrea. beyond the dick cavett, dick character investment, i will tell you that dick clark worked every day of his life right up to the end. and this notion in a he was in failing health, yeah, he had suffered a stroke in 2004, but worked hard. he was always there. his mind was as sharp as can be. that's a side to him that people did not see and that is one that was extraordinarily warm. he had -- he loved dogs. he named his dogs for the song that's introduced on american bandstand. he had a weimaraner called henry for i'm henry the 8th i am. he still has another weimaraner called arthur for arthur's theme. two pugs for ple and mrs. jones. the other is leroy for bad, bad,

leroy brown. i was not on american american bandstand and i didn't play on the pyramid and i thank god he never got any of my bloopers recorded. he and i just a couple of weeks ago we were sharing some of our bloopers together. one great line that i will tell you is just an incredible one, two years ago new year's eve, his wonderful wife leaned over to kiss him at midnight and he whispered in her ear and everyone said, oh, did dick say you're the love of my life, i can't live without you, you're an incredible part of everything i am? she said, no, he said get out of the shot, i work alone. that was his response. >> always the performer. >> yeah. always. >> he had a quick verbal intelligence. >> yes, he did it. >> it was deceptively well done. >> let me ask you, dick, about his influence on music. is there any other single person

maybe from motown, some of the leader, berry gordy, but is there anyone else who had as big an influence on rock and roll and on the change and including the racial barriers that were broken down on that show? >> well, that was one of the best things about it, i think. i'm sure he got a lot of flack for having too many colored as some people like to put it. and he was a force for good certainly. i don't know if he got the nasty mail and threats that -- >> he got lots of nasty mail, dick. and he's told me some stories just recently. but he felt passionate, he was proud to say that he had the ability to put black kids and white kids in the same room and they didn't kill each other. and he saw that as a great accomplishment. >> yeah, there really ought to

be a monument to him in those ways. it's took a certain amount of courage i'm sure with plenty of the morons who like to bring you to your knees financially, at least threatening to by saying i'm going to write to every one of your sponsors. >> and he also continued to an mentor. i got to know him well in the last several years. his wonderful children, all of whom are in the industry, cindy and rack, dwayne, are in the entertainment industry, they were all together on easter sunday having a great time. and dick had very minor surgery, he had cataract surgery last week. and this morning, he was actually scheduled to have cataract surgery again. he had just a minor procedure, prostate, not cancerous or anything, day before yesterday. heed had breakfast with his wife yesterday morning and was doing well and he was hit by this massive heart attack. >> such a shame. and he was never caught in any scandal as he might have been in he had been in the secret service. >> or financial scandals by encouraging -- i have some

investments that i want to recommend, by the way. clark told me to call you. >> i still have that somewhere somewhere and i think you'll get it. >> i think, dick, you can help congress -- congressman, you can help dick out with some of those returns. >> i'm from the government, i'm here to help you. >> that's a switch. >> exactly. >> thank you both very much for remembering dick clark. and up next, speaking of government, saving the post office with montana senator john tester. plus has the 2012 election gone to the dogs? and we'll take you inside the exclusive club of ex-presidents. i'm al ways looking out for i'm al small ways to be more healthy. like splenda® essentials™ no calorie sweeteners. this bowl of strawberries is loaded with vitamin c. and now, b vitamins to boot. coffee doesn't have fiber. unless you want it to.

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there is a lot of outrage continuing over government spending at the gsa. but did you know that the u.s. postmaster general makes almost $3400,000 a year? that's as much as the president. twice what the secretaries of defense and state get. leading the charge about that pay and how to reform the post office is john tester, senator from minnesota. you want to save rural post offices understandably from montana, skaus excuse me, not minnesota. and you want to save the rural post offices in montana, but you're as upset as we all should be about the -- why would we way the post masters general almost as much as the president of the united states? >> it doesn't make any sense and that's one of the reasons we offered the amendment up. i think there is pretty major cuts across the board to our poster servicers, proposals to cut some 3800 post offices, most

of which i think are in rural america, to cut some mail processing centers. and you see those kind of cuts that are coming down here, you're thinking about impacts on communities, you're thinking about impact on businesses, and impact on our elderly folks. and so then take you a look at the postmaster general's salary and he's making twice as much as the secretary of defense or secretary of state. and the post office is public service. and as i've told some of my fellows in the senate, you know, if the person is doing it for the money, he's in it for the wrong reason, he or she is in it for the wrong reason. so as we cut up and down the postal service as there are proposed cuts, it should be equitable. >> what about saturday delivery, are you okay with that? >> yeah, i think saturday delivery is pretty darn important. and i guesses if i have any problems with the post masser

general's suggestions on how to balance the books and the prepayment for the retirement absolutely has to be dealt with and this bill does deal with it, but the post office closures. changing the standard of delivery because we're shutting down a bunch of mail processing centers, it's time to put the foot on the brake, make sure what we're doing is the right thing to be doing because if we close these post offices or these mail processes centers, they will not be opened up again. very, very, very up likely. and the impacts that it will have being from montana, being from rural america, the impacts on rural america can be devastating. so post office has been important since almost the inception of this country. i think we ought to make sure that what we do we think about it first, apply a little common sense, and then we can make some good decisions. >> and i know there are votes coming up on that this afternoon starting at 2:30. meanwhile back in montana, are you officially a toss up race as far as our political unit is

concerned. what are you facing right now in this re-election bid? >> yeah, i think it's not unlike farming or any other business. working family, you got to roll up the sleeves and go to work. and that's what we'll be doing. we're still trying to focus on our job here in the senate. we've got the post office bill, we've got flood insurance, i mean, will that's a lot of issues out will. we need to deal with in the short run here. but once the campaign gets rocking and rolling, it's about work. it's about making sure that i don't how the other side to define me as something i'm not. >> is the president at the top of the ticket a drag for your race because he's not popular in montana? >> i think it's six of one, half a dozen of the other. there will be more people vote this election than in 2010, mainly because the president's on the ticket. the president isn't particularly doing well in the state like montana, but this isn't about the presidential race.

this is about a u.s. senate race from montana. this is about what i've accomplished for veterans and infrastructure and homeland security and native americans and the list goes organization the banking industry. so some people want to make it about the president. this is really about jon test errands te errands the u.s. senate seat. >> thank you for being with us today. >> thank you. up next, the political company briefing, roger simon is here. who let the dogs out? taurants. and i get my financing from ge capital. but i also get stuff that goes way beyond banking. we not only lend people money, we help them save it. [ junior ] ge engineers found ways to cut my energy use. [ cheryl ] more efficient lighting helps junior stay open later... [ junior ] and serve more customers. so you're not just getting financial capital... [ cheryl ] you're also getting human capital. not just money. knowledge. [ junior ] ge capital. they're not just bankers... we're builders. [ junior ] ...and they've helped build my business.

in today's politico briefing, has the presidential campaign gone to the dogs? roger simon writes about all the fuss over mitt romney's family dog and what it says about the state of our politics. blame gail collins. >> and david letterman and a dozen other -- >> and i say that admiringly because gail collins never fails to insert a jab here or there. but we've been talking a lot about the dogs.

>> it's a story that won't go away. it was revealed by mitt romney himself as an amusing anecdote. >> i bet he's sorry about that. >> you bet. and now it's gone on for month after month. and you can dismiss it as silly and why are we wasting our time, but the fact is a lot of little things go into majoring the image of a presidential candidate. dukakis in the tank, mitt romney wind surfing, gerald ford stum plink down the steps -- >> john kerry wind surfing. >> yeah. and in mitt romney's case, he cannot shake the image of the guy who put the dog on the roof of his car. >> and ann romney dwebded it saying the dog had only gotten secretary because it had eaten something bad but but the fact is then the romney camp tweeted out a picture of the president with bo in response to david axelrod showing the president and his loving dog and suggested

that because the president in dream of my father wrote about eating dog meat in indonesia, that that somehow reflected badly on the president. >> yeah, he implied that the president was only nice to bo because he was fattening help up for a midnight snack. >> the president was writing about getting to indonesia and discovering that they ate things like dog, snakes, and grass ame lot of dogs. >> but this does talk about the quality of the debate. we're not talking about budget deficits and the need for tax reform. >> maybe part of us would rather not deal with problems we think are almost impossible to solve like gridlock and the deficit

and the debt and things like dogs on the roof of a car, we can decide on. we can say, yes, that's terrible or, no, that's excusable. >> or just plain funny. >> not to the dog. >> not to the dog. thank you very much. up next, inside the world's most exclusive club. so par it is an all male club. but first a welcoming ceremony for the space shuttle "discovery" at the national air and space museum. john glenn helped escort the retired shuttle to its new home. this is andrea mitchell reports. ♪

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just moments ago, the white house announced in a president obama is going to award women's basketball coach pat summit the presidential medal of freedom. this is the nation's highest

honor for a civilian. summit is the winningest coach in the history of women's college basketball and is stepping down, she's announcing that now officially, after 38 seasons as coach, she led the tennessee lady vols to nearly 1100 wins, 8 national title as. she catapulted her team and women's basketball into the national spotlight. the move comes less than a year after summit was diagnosed with early onset dementia of the alzheimer's type. and it's such a poignant moment as she announces that she is stepping down. there's a fascinating new book going inside the most exclusive club in the world. one composed solely of american presidents. george w. bush described the alliance when he greeted president elect obama and bush and carter at the white house in 2009. >> whether democrat or republican, we care deeply about this country and to the extent we can, we look forward to

sharing our experiences with you. all of us who have served in this office understand that the office itself transcends the individual. >> and with me now, "time" magazine washington bureau chief michael duffy and nancy gives in new york, they co-wrote the cover story and are the co-authors of the president's club which came out in hard cover this week. congratulations on both of you you. it is terrific. i already had the opportunity to talk to michael. nancy, it's an amazing club. let's go back. it started basically in 1953 with truman and hoover and tell us the story about how they desired to get together. >> it what an unlikely pair. think about two more polar opposite people than herbert hoover and harry truman. but by that time the two men had

spent the previous seven years working very closely together on things they both cared about that were well beyond party and partisanship like helping european reconstruction. and they have become great friends. so it was at the inauguration that hoover proposed let's form a president's club. and that's when it happened. >> and they even have a club house on jackson square. >> a gift to the club from richard nixon who decided the most important thing was to keep lbj happy, who had left town, who still wanted to be in the game, who was bettering the mixon white house with all kinds of requests and they said let's give him a place to work. and so they created this little house kind of across the street and it's still this use today. >> and one of the earlier references is jfk and eisenhower, we know that at the inauguration in january of 1961, they were not happy. they smiled for the cameras, but

they were not happy. eisenhower did not think jfk was ready to be president. but after the bay of pig, who did he call. >> the first time kennedy goes to camp david to be taken to the wood shed by ike who basically said everything i warned you would hoappen has happened and let's go back to running the white house like i did and dozendy changdoze kennedy changed the way he organized the white house. and so you had the senior mantling the new guy how to do things. >> and one of the other surprising things we learned is howng the new guy how to do things. >> and one of the other surprising things we learned is how lbj reached out to eisenhower after the assassination. >> the very nice of kennedy and he murder that he called eisenhower and said i need you more than ever now. and eisenhower got in his car the next day, drove to washington, came to see johnson at the white house, and literally sat down and wrote out in longhand what he thought johnson needed to say to a joint session of congress, say to calm the nation, help will the

country move forward after this terrible trauma. again, a republican president coaching a democrat about what it was the country needed at that moment. >> and it was actually eisenhower's suggestion that lbj tell the nation we're going to complete the legacy, which of course then led to the civil rights legislation. >> the great society. >> which was his tribute and also politically smart to try to win the loyalty. he never did in the cabinet and. but to try to bring in the country. and we can see from the wonderful pictures that that relationship continued in 1966, lbj is in the hospital and ike visits him. and look at that. a pretty remarkable picture, as well. >> he turned to eisenhower other than and over, particularly on vietnam for advice. we found incidents where eisenhower almost takes over meetings in the white house when johnson is president to try to bring some clarity and some

resolution to vietnam. what's interesting is eek turned out to be even more hawkish isi an ex-president than he was as a president. >> of course richard nixon one of the brightest and the most controversial, but the role of richard nixon, there's a scene when they're all going in 1981, i remember this well, the day sadat died and the funeral. and you where it was jerry ford who tried to get them to sort of relax and call teeach other by hair first names. >> no one really liked each other on that fright to cairo and it took the mid westerner ford to say let's just call each other jerry, dick and jimmy for this flight. and not get stumped over protocol. it would be a long time before the three became really partners, but the club was essentially reborn. >> nancy, governor ifduffy, let about bill clinton and richard

nixon. having both gone through impeachment hearings, it was actually nixon who wrote to bill clinton and clinton said to you guys that that letter is something he refers to often. >> he told us he takes it out and rereads it every year. and by that time, they had become late night phone buddies. they would talk late at night about everything from china policy and russia to things like how a president should organize his day. clinton would grill nixon about sort of when did you exercise and how much did you sleep and how did you use your time. which is of course the single most precious presidential resource. >> and as mans cinancy just sai, the relationship crosses party lines most remarkably. this was at the kennedy center and it was bill clinton referring to his relationship with the bushes and how we know he traveled to the tsunami relief back in 2005 with george

herbert walker bush, the dad. this was a tribute to the former president bush he ken at the kenity center and chin to is speaking. >> got so ridiculous, our odd couple partnership, that barbara began to refer to me as her black sheep son, you know, the one that strays, there's one in every family. >> the bushes hch-bush sons refer to clinton as brother from another mother. because he's become like a member of the family. he go escorted barbara bush at betty ford's funeral. we've looked for evidence of difficulty between clinton and the bushes. it's very hard to find. >> mike, duffy, congratulations. and nancy, it's great to see you and will this book is terrific. we we sha we shall y wish you all the luck in the

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