zimmerman will be granted bail. i want to go ahead and bring in kendall coffey. first of all, mr. coffey, are you there? >> yes, i am. >> let's talk about what has been seen and heard transpired so far. what's struck you so far in. >> well, i think the things that jump out are some holes in the prosecution's case as well as acknowledges that the prosecution made that may be favorable to george zimmerman. for example, his apparent injuries, lacerations to the back of the head, were consistent with zimmerman's account of having his head slammed against the cement. there's other testimony that came in about the fact that apparently -- it's now going to become pretty clear -- that george zimmerman had some injuries as a result of it. another thing that i think may be just as important or many so is the fact that according to the investigator, he has no evidence to determine who threw the first punch. he said there was a

confrontation. he said that he believes he could show that zimmerman was pursuing trayvon martin. but as to who threw the first punch, there is no evidence on that, around thnd that could be critical fact determining down the road or at some other point george zimmerman can establish a self-defense claim. those are things that would point to it. on the other hand, we heard the prosecutor bring out that george zimmerman may have said some things that appear to be clearly false because what some people tend to do when they're accused of a crime is come up with stuff to make themselves look better or feel more stronger about their self-defense. so if zimmerman was, in fact, telling police that trayvon martin was circling the vehicle, that's one of the things that was said today, he may have said were demonstratively false. >> let me cut in. we understand they're asking for a bond for $50,000. >> that can be accomplished by

the use of a gps monitoring device. i've been in touch with seminole downç tichl i would have broug them, but they would tell you stuff, information i know you already know, which is gpss are nationwide now. they are secure. if -- we will know quickly if he's not in the location he is. we have surrendered his passport. he doesn't have a legal way to get out of the country. though there are always illegal ways for people to get out of the country. we then need to know what mr. zimmerman has done during the time this event has been pending. as proffered by the state, he's stayed in constant contact with law enforcement and literally building a trust with relationship with fdle. when he was set to come in those the active warrant wasn't identified, though i don't fault

them, they did what they had to do to secure his safety. he came in voluntarily. he is well established in the community, ten years, though he cannot stay in this community. he had a job that he was doing quite well at for a long time. he was able to support himself. and i must back up. we have no testimony concerning his employment and i apologize. it can't be considered. but certainly when we look at this case, i would suggest that mr. zimmerman can considered for a bond. if the state is going to say to you that this is a second-degree murder case because i say it is and that is wzat they presented to you as evidence of second-degree murder, then i would ask that you consider the

anti-office standards. we proved his evidence and presumption, great but that as of today, you and i know now more about what's happened or may not have happened that day, and i'd ask you to consider that in considering whether or not you allow bond and then the amount of it. >> thank you. mr. o'mara. mr. day e la rionda? >> may it please the court, your honor, obviously we differ and i know the court may be at somewhat of a disadvantage because we haven't tried the case and with what occurred here may be an attempt by defense counsel to try to provide probable cause but we obviously have much more than that, but our position is that the court should consider in terms of what he is facing. that is, life in prison. and so it's a felony. a life felony. and that obviously makes it

different than what he was before in terms of when he was out. he wasn't charged with a crime in terms of his flight risk. you also have the in fact it is an unarmed 17-year-old boy. i mean the court has to consider the fact itself. this young man was minding his own business. was not committing a crime. and i know we're not going to litigate the case in front of the court at this time, but that is a factor in terms of you have an innocent young man whose life is no longer among us. his ties to the community, i don't know they are quiteì(lc% frankly. i think he's got a nice family, but, you know, where's h going to stay if the court lets him out and will he be a threat to other people? quite frankly some people may want to get at him, in fairness to him, in fairness to the defense. but our position is that you have a person, mr. zimmerman, who in the past has committed violent crimes. now it was minimized, i guess, by the in fact he was allowed in

a diversion prachlt the court is obviously the most authoritative figure in this courtroom but you have law enforcement. now they're saying some kind of self-defense, he didn't really mean to do it. but the bottom line is you have a prior violent act and the consideration of an injunction. so it's not somebody who's been in trouble with the law before. he's had filings in the past and obviously he committed those crime or he's charged with committing the crime. know tell court hasn't heard all the facts. our position is that he still will be a danger to the community and based on the crime, he should be either kept on no bond or the bond should be a million dollars, quite frankly. we feel that we've established

probable cause. what it boils down to is he's created an affirmative defense. the eoense chose not to ask mr. zemerman, nor was i able to inquire of him. so, quite frankly, that's not before the court. the facts before the court is you have a 17-year-old young man who was minding his own business and walking home when he was confronted by the defendant who felt that mr. martin was committing a crime of some type. unfortunately he made the wrong assumption. that's why the word "profile" was used. that's why, no other reason. he confronted mr. zimmerman -- i'm sorry he confronted mr. martin. why else would mr. martin want to confront mr. zimmerman? he was on his way home minding his own business.

i'm not here to argue all the facts. our contention is, your honor, this is a serious crime and he should be held under no bond or if it is set, it slould be a million dollars. thank you for the court's indulgence. >> further, mr. o'mear omar rah. >> i have case law. >> i'm familiar. >> i know, your honor. >> there's not too many jurisdictions in the case get the wealth of cases, alt only cases, not just this but cases in general in the criminal justice system. so we're all very familiar with. this is a very familiar with this type of hearing but for the media involved in this particular case and theç circumstances associated with mr. zimmerman's record is something the court and anybody who practices here in the central florida areaing is

familiar with. i think that's the best way. so we're familiar with the situations. i won't say standard but it's a run of a mill type of run-in i believe it was at the library. fairly common. i'm familiar with those. even though it's. >> another jurisdiction. the injunction was somewhat mild compared to the injunctions i'm familiar with so really what this involves is the facts of this particular situation as prernlted to the court. what i'm going to do is find that the motion is well taken. i'm going to grant the motion, set bond in the amount of $150,000 with the following conditions. electronic monitoring, gps, i'm going to require the state and defense to meet with the sheriff's department to accomplish that. that mean mrs. zimmerman is not going to be released today but i'm going to mang sure the state and defense can work out those asheernss and if we need a further hearing again to

preserve the secrecy and to establish safety as long as the state and defense can agree, that's fine with me and the sheriff's department can agree, that's fine. if we can't, we can have another meeting with respect to that. there's to be no contact directly or indirectly with the victim's family or through an intermediary in any way. there's to be no possession of firearms, be they rifles, shotguns, hand guns, pistols, revolvers, any type of destructive device. there's to be no consumption of alcohol, a curfew from 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. he is to advise the monitoring supervisor and the sheriff's department as to his location every three days. are there any other considerations the state wants me to invoke at this time. >> he's to have no contact with

the witnesses. in fairness, he don't know who the witnesses are. >> that's between mr. o'mara and his client, how they want to arrange that. due to the facts of this particular situation. anything else you want me to consider? >> no, your honor. >> no use of controlled sub stans other than those lawfully prescribed by a doctor. anything else? >> i'm asking that mr. zimmerman be allowed to reside out of state. >> that's why i'm saying you need to talk with the state and the sheriff's department to see if it can be accomplish and if there's further discussion you can bring it before me. >> yes, your honor. >> yesterday the press was somewhat concerned that we're holding a hearing outside their presence by virtue of the order. they saw what the purpose of the meeting was. it was purely for lodge tift call purposes to figure how to get mr. zimmerman dressed for the hearing and how to secure the appearances of the witnesses

in a man cher preserve third safety. the state says they're very concerned bd that with respect to their witnesses and defense with respect to their witnesses. in light of that i'm going to have to work and rely upon the stateç defense to assist me as far as what to do with the court file because the media has an absolute right to the file. the court understands, that defense understands that. i think we need to get if information to the media with redacted version with regard to the addresses and names. i'll give you the final product you can okay it before anything's released. if we can get that to the media as soon as possible and we'll tentatively set a hearing for next friday at 9:00 to allow the meeting to go ahead and if they have any concerns at time, we can go ahead to them. i think that will alleviate a lot of the concerns they have with not being kept up to speed. is that okay with you? >> your honor, in fairness, if i may address the court, in

fairness to the defense council, i have not provided it. i don't -- i know that mr. o'mara and i have discussed it before. i would ask mr. o'mara that there are some things not to be known to the media. i think we can address that. >> mr. oh ma'mao'mara, if you t can work it out, if you tlink there's an area of concern with can discuss it. but what's in the file is fairly thin. >> i apologize. i agree as to what's in the file right now. i apologize. >> my only concern -- yes, i agree. we need to get to it quickly. i have gotten or received some notice of hearing that told me of a hearing before a circuit judge, tuesday at 9:00 onç motions solught by the meade yo. >> i don't know about that.

i'm telling you i'm more than happy -- most of the files consist of motions filed by the media. you can look through your own files if you want to do it. but the best way is for me to work through that. all the attorneys, look at that and make sure -- get that to them as quickly as possible. and then if they have any furpt concerns, we can address that at the hearing on friday at kk. >> they don't -- >> i still have a working division. i'm doing other trials. the state's attorney's office has thousands of cases up. you have an active practice. >> thank you, your honor. >> anything further from the state? >> no. thank you, your honor. >> anything nurt from the defense attorney. >> no, thank you, your honor. there you have it. judge lester setting bond for george zimmerman in the amount of $150,000, also a number of zip lagss as well.

electronic gps monitoring system and also no contact with the vick time's family, no possession of firearm arms, no alcohol, a curfew was set by the jouj as well. zimmerman not allowed to be out between 7:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. he'll have to check in every day. we should note that george zimmerman will not be released today as well. there are a number of things that need to be worked out. but the headline, bond set at $150,000 for george zimmerman charged with second-degree murder in the case of tray van martin. i want to go ahead and bridge iç kendall coffey. you have a great experience. are you surprised at all by what the jarj decided in terms of bond and stipulations? >> not surprised at all. it was a reasonable decision. he made it clear this is going to be treated within the full power that he can like other

cases. and he was very matter of fact in describing the elements of granting bond. frankly it's the kind of bond you would expect in a second-degree murder case like this. i think it's a fair result and while it's a clearly important victory for the defense, the prosecution, i think, very plainly did not show all their cards. they went with a rather limited showing of their evidence. i think we can continue to assume they've got more evidence and th're holding back because sooner or later there's going to be a stand your ground hearing where the defense will try to have the entire case thrown out turned formal stand your ground case. the prosecutor is keeping some cards in their vest because they know it's going be a big battle. >> i want to bring in our man, our man on the scene, kerry sanders, outside the courtroom. what's next for george zimmerman on do we know what's next? >> reporter: well, we dough know

he is going to be escorted to the jail and the jail is connected right here to the courthouse. so he will go back there. he'll be taken out of the civilian clothes. he'll go back to his solitaire cell. then there will be the process where there's the discussion between the state attorney's office, the court and most importantly the sheriff here. they're going to put aç monitoring device on george zimmerman if he actually makes the bail, if he can post the $150,000 bond and we anticipate that that has been worked out in advance. and so the real concern about the monitoring device is we need a real sense that it's a secure device. the sheriff's department is going other some of its devices and there are concerns or fierce of being hacked into it, not the person wearing it but people outside hacking into the

software and locating where someone is and clearly they want to make sure mr. zimmerman's location is kept on very tight rein, only to those in the sheriff's department and the prosecutor and the defense. and the family and defense attorney would know where their client is. they have too work some of that out. so for the martin family, you know, you've got tracy martin and sybrina fulton who sat in the court. were not given the opportunity to speak. they're the family members of the 17-year-old victim in this case. they were whispering during the presentation today, looking at each other. >> not to cut you off, we're showing the martin family actually leaving the courthouse there. go ahead and continue. >> okay. well, with them is their attorney ben crump, and i will probably wind up speaking to him

a little later today, but the family actuallyç opposed the ia of bond. they were, as you know, pushing very hard for an arrest, and now as they're leaving the court and quite frankly surrounded by a lot of cameras and reporters as they're making their way to their vehicle. i'm not sure whether they're commenting because i'm here. they had indicated they would probably not speak. they opposed the release because they fear that somehow that suggests something about their son and whether he was con tronational rather than george zimmerman. but this is sort of the legal process, and as the family member of the victims, you see while they were afforded the opportunity to come in. it's not necessarily that their voices are heard in a hearing like the one today. >> all right. jerry sanders. thank you so much.

jewulianne reed is standing by. jonathon k. post. they surrendered the passport and offered a gps monitoring device. the state comes back and says no bond or a million dollars. were your surprised by the request or what the judge decided? >> i wasn't surprised by the request. you saw the set up for it when they were talking with the zimmerman family. they plead indy jens. he's a disabled veteran and not working and the wife is retired. they wereç setting it up that they would set a low bond because they don't have the mean. the state obviously because they fought it and fought it in such a lengthy manner, you knew that they were going to ask for a high bond or no bond some of none of that was surprising.

i'm a little surprised. i think it's a little loi but kendall coffey is the expert. he thinks it's in line. >> you know, i was making notes and furiously underlying things around that's how dismissive the judge was. he said it was garden variety. he said the domestic violence case didn't strike him as overwhelming which i thought was interesting. one other thing i thought was interesting was the hint of the prosecutor hint of having more. he said we obviously have much more to come at trial and they hinted at text messages that george zimmerman that might have sent that were very intriguing. >> jonathan, i want to bring you in here as well. one of the things that struck us

is how george zimmerman started his testimony by saying, quote, i want to say i'm sorry for the loss of your son. you know what? i think we have this. i want you to take a listen at this other the other side. take a listen. >> i want to say i am sorry for the loss of your son. did not know how young he was. u thought he was a little bit younger than i was and i did not know if he was armed or not. >> jonathan, what did you make of that? was that for the family or for theç cameras? >> quite frankly, that was for both. zimmerman wanted to meet with the parents and they said, no, we'll pass on that. this was hi way of saying to them publicly what he would have said to them privately. this is case that's gotten worldwide coverage and certainly we've been focused on it a lot and this is the first time we've actually been able to hear from him to hear him express some

sort of repors. >> jonathan, i'm going to cut you off. the defense attorneys are speaking live outside the courthouse. let's take a listen. >> we wanted to brick out some of the facts. i'm hopes that those emotions keep things calm, not trying to an tag nice or upset but these are the facts of the case. >> i'm sorry. why did you put him on the stand? can you just talk about that a little bit? how it came to be. >> it's my knowledge he has always wanted to acknowledge that since the death of trayvon martin. i was hoping it could be accomplished in a more private way but we weren't afforded that opportunity. >> he appeared to be fairly

upset. do you think your client -- >> i think it was a week or ten days ago that miss fultonç wand to hear from him. i saw that. when i discussed with my client, he wanted to respond. and if you look at that interview, those are the two questions he responded to. i took it that the family wanted to hear from him and he wanted to say it. i think it should have happened in a private setting and that we tried and that wasn't afforded to us. so that's the way it worked. >> so the family did not agree to it, is that what you're saying? >> i didn't see the attorneys' presentation yesterday, but my understanding was that they had said no. i don't know if that was actually the martin family or a representative.

i'm not certain. >> have you decided on a place for george gogo and are you going to hire security. >> we have several options but i don't know where we're going to end up. it's an enormously high-profile case and there's a lot of angry -- at least a lot of high emotions exist, and i don't want that to spill over onto the family or my client's safety. >> do you have any idea when you might get him out of jail or get everything organized for that. >> it's going to take a few days, i would imagine, just to do it properly. >> there was testimony that your client had injuries based on the physical confrontation. based on that would you dismiss the case before it ever got to trial? >> the evidence that i found ouç i found out in the courtroom, so

i've truly not seen the first piece of evidence except for what you guys have in the media so, the decision to review the probable cause affidavit was an attempt to try to fill in some of the gaps that we knew existed and it sort of expanded to include things like injuries, and those injuries seemed not on for contest, so that may take us down a different path. >> what if they say they have no evidence to lean to suggest who started the fight. what do you make of the fact he said they don't know who started it? >> i'm believing that he told the truth when he said that. >> what do you make of that? >> i think that -- >> that's significant. >> i'm not going to comment on particular pieces of evidence because it just takes i don't a path of doing it here and it's not supposed to happen here.

we got out in the courtroom which is where it was supposed to come out, what we needed to to accomplish a bond. i'm happy with the way it turned out, that he got a bond. >> how risky was he he got a bond? obviously the judge was limiting it. >> i thaink that it's very risk to put a criminal defendant facing any charges particularly in a case where he's facing a life sentence on the stand. >> george zimmerman's attorney there mark o'mara outside the courtroom admitting it's very risky to put aç defendant on t stand saying he did it primarily because mr. zimmerman wanted to talk to the family and he also heard that the family wanted to hear from him. he had two specific questions as well. i want to bring in former prosecuting attorney mr. kendall coffey again. what do you make of that, why he wanted to put zimmerman on the

stand? does that make sense to you? >> probably not necessary. i know that seems like something a client insists on. it isn't anything a defense laurd would want to do. let me tell you, that's something that know #defense attorney wants to do. >> judge setting bond for george zimmerman at $150,000. he will not be released today. his attorney saying it's going to take a few days to work out the particulars, particularly the gps electronic monitoring device. the judge saying no alcohol is to be consumed. a curfew was involved as well and george zimmerman was to have no contact with the family of trayvon martin. we'll take a quick break. unless you're one of those people who doesn't like delicious stuff.

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about your inconsistency, you started saying i don't remember. >> outside the scope of direction examination. i would object, your honor. >> i'll give a little bit of leeway. not a whole lot but a little bit. >> isn't it true when you were questioned and questioned about the contradictions in your statements and the police didn't believe it you said, i don't remember? would you agree it changed your story as it went along? >> absolutely not. >> talking about the night trayvon martin was killed. george zimmerman took the stand a short time ago. moments later the judge agreed to release the neighborhood watch volunteer on bond. $150,000ç bond along with a number of other stipulations. jonathan capehart, an editorial writer for "the washington post" and an msnbc contributor. we cut you off before the defense attorney started to speak. >> right. >> what were you saying? >> it sort of feed as what you're talking about now.

the big impression i had watching the bail hearing was, one, how intensity was. was i watching a bail hearing or the actually trial and a lot of people tweeted back they were having the same reaction. and to have george zimmerman take the stand and given what kendall coffey just said, how risky that was, we just got a preview for how intense the real trial is going to be. >> indeed. jonathan capehart, always a pleasure, sir. thank you. >> thanks, craig. the trayvon martin has brought new national attention to florida's stand your ground self-defense law. it was signed into law in 2005 by then governor jeb bush. the current governor scott brown announced tuesday he's ordering a review following the outcry of not charging him. zimmerman claims he was in a

li life-or-death struggle. jennifer carroll, good morning to you. >> good morning. how are you today. >> i understand you don't want to talk about the case specifically, so we won't do that. but i want to talk with you about the task force. i understand the task force is comprised of a 17-member panel not made of of just politicians like yourself but law enforcement, neighborhood watch leaders, pastors. what are you hoping this group can come together and accomplish? what's your vision? >> the name of the law is justifiable use of force and "stand your ground" is a description? one portion of the law. so what the task force is charged to do is review 776, florida statute 776, just fileable use of force and its application to get public testimony and also the data. the raw statistical data which the university of florida will be capturing that information from cases filed across the

board -- across the state of florida and see if we're seeing some changes after the law has been implemented and what those changes have been and how it impacts our public safety. so with the information we're going to be receiving from individuals coming to us from private citizens, from our panelists to capture information so we can give a recommendation back to the governor and legislature as to what changes need to be made in the law if any because maybe what we'll find is the application or the intoechblt the law has been miss applied some of therefore we may need instructions to our law enforcement or maybe a change to the law. that we will discuss during our public hearing. >> miss carroll, but you go, they have strongly supported "stand your ground" laws. you're a member of the nra.

for it as a member of the legislator back in 2005. you also voted in favor of the 2008 "take your guns to work" law. how do you respond to the fact that some say you should not be speaking to this because of your connections to nra and -- what do you say to these folks? >> we're not going into the task force with a preconceived notion. they're made of all demographics, race, civilian, our legal association wls it's civil defender or prosecutor. we have a retired judge. we going be looking a tt facts of the case and represent the citizens of the state of florida to make sure the safety is intact and citizen's rights are always protected. there's no perceived notion but capture the information from the state around us will help us.

>> jennifer carroll, thank you for your time this morning, miss carroll. appreciate you. >> thank you. >> black entertainment television taking an in-depth look at the martin case. it's called "i am trayvon. "a family's fight for justice. >> have you had time to grieve about this? have you had any time for yourself? >> no. it's very difficult for us. i stel cry. i tried krooid for two hours yesterday. i started to feel better after i left church, but it's still hard. it's still a process we're going through, you know, the grieving process. >> joining me now, the correspondent behind that ç documentary, b.e.t.'s emmett miller. saw that clip with trayvon's parents. we saw them just now fleeing the courthouse basically. you spent some time with them. now that zimmerman's been charged, now that we know he's going to be released, what are they saying to you with how they're doing with all of this? >> the first thing you notice

with the family is they're so emotionally spent. this has been such a fight for them, even to get it as it stood. you've got the racial profiling issue, the stand your ground issue and how the police handled the case right from the very beginning. i think there was a nationwide -- and this found its flash poind, within the family. a nationwide fury over what should have been done to begin with. >> you had the first one-on-one interview with trayvon's brother. we'll talk with you on the other side. take a look. >> the family and friends. i'm going to be there for them. >> they'll be in the national spotlight at least for the next year. how is he dealing with the loss of his brother? how's he dealing with everything thats ha happened to his family

since? >> as well as can be expected. once again you have somebody who hassan been able to grieve because the grieving process is a family process. it's the sense of being able to lay flowers on the gravg, spend time toektd one on one without being disturbed. you've had the media in their face. they've literally been out on the trail fight for what hasç been a national movement to try to get some equality within the treatment of african-americans by law enforcement and now they're looking at the prospect of not having the grieving time as you said a year from now. >> b.e.t.'s emmett mill sneer online we'll also have the expanded versions. i asked him what happens if you wake up at 3:00 in the morning one day in a cold sweat eyes wide open and you realize your client did this. >> we're going to plug it in again. b.e.t. special "i am trayvon."

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more details around the details and circumstances involving the sex scandal and the secret service. right now investigators are serving for prostitutes at the center of what's become a massive black eye for the agency. these are facebook pictures of a woman. the news report say is being sought for questions. they're blurring her face until we can confirm the reports. a cab driver says, quote, he is pretty sure the woman in the photos was one of the two women he picked up last week from the hotel caribe. the driver says the woman whose name we're not revealing told him that she'd had sex for money at the hotel with a man who said he worked on president obama's security detail, then argued with him over the price.

a u.s. official says the scandal erupted after a heated dispute over money between two agents and a prostitute they allegedly shared. two sources have identified high profileç managers david chaney and greg stokes. it was suggesting they left voluntarily. chaney guarded sarah palin during her campaign. he posted a photograph of her can with the comment, quote, he was really checking her out. here was sarah palin's response to that news. >> check this out, bodyguard, you're fired and i hope his wife kicks him and sends him to the doughouse as long as he's not eating the dog with his former boss. >> we don't know what an oh coli was. we know the dig at the end was toward the president for eating

dog as a child in diindonesia. >> we're in an empty plant. had president obama's plan worked it wouldn't be empty. but it's still empty. >> mitt romney there at a factory in ohio that actually closed during the bush administration but stayed that way over the past three years. the economy's priority one for voters and our new nbc wall street poll takes their poll of the 2012 contenders. let's start with the big number. president obama with a six-point lead over hiss likely opponent mitt romney, also holding double-digit leads among hispanics, women, and independent voters as wilt. if it's over the economy, that's a fight. mitt romney has a six-point &ad when it comes to having good ideas when it comes to improving the economy.

let's bring in our power panel here. good afternoon. thanks for being with me. >> good to be with you. >> in the hole, what we've seen in polls throughout the week as well, the president is behind on the economy and jobs and how much of a political dagger is that going to be this year? >> it's clearly his biggest weakness, but a lot depends on how the next six months goes. six months is a long time in politics and a long time in hole people feel in the economy, whether it's gaining momentum or not. but clearly people are unhappy. there was a recent poll that said more than 76% of the country thinks we near a recession when we've been out of a recession for many years so if that's the kind of a mood that's drag on the president's number. but to poll numbers overall are good for the president because most think of what the electorate will look like. that may counterweight the balance of the economy. >> he's more likeable, more

compassionate, cares about the middle class more. he's also ahead when it comes to standing up for his beliefs in being honest and straight forward. you've been at the center of the kpanls, huckabee campaign most notably. >> i think the easiest thing for him to do is stay in his comfort zone which is jobs and the economy. i think if he stays on that, hammer j4ujz that, you saw the event in ohio, he looked very comfortable. i think now that he's got the primary past him he can focus laser beam on barack obama. that's what he's going to be best at. it will relax him and give him a better likability mode. >> richard, can he close the likability gap with the right running mate? >> not really. they have to private for themselves. remember, the president doesn't have that luxury.

they tent to be short-live and then the focus gets on the debate and how well it says it against each other. so you can't fakes likability. you either got it or you don't. >> chip, one of the things we found particularly striking with this poll continues to be the perception of lives versus their husbands. the first lady's approval ratings still very high. ann romney's higher than her husband as well. how front and center will these two women be and why does it always seem the women are so much more popular than their husbands? >> because they're nicer and they don't have to get into the political light and michelle obama goes on fun night life shows and ann romney. she was not afraid to stand up and fight for what she believes in. they're a lot nicer and don't have to get into the fights

anyone do. >> we haven't played deep stakes ajváu were beating man, who would you bet on? >> predictions are tough but you have to look at someone who's popular with the base because mitt romney still needs to prove himself with base but probably doesn't have a great 2016 prospect of their own. chris christie i'm looking at you. >> chris christie from richard wolffe. chip, if you were a betting man? >> i usually am a betting machblt obviously i have a dark horse. i think mike huckabee would be a great part of the ticket but marco rubio would be a good choice as well. >> thank you, gentlemen. have a great weekend. appreciate your time. >> why the policepaetz, one of missing children to be put on a milk carton.

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othniel. right now, police and fbi are digging up a basement in new

york city. they're hoping to find new clues into what happened to etan patz who vanished 33 years ago. a cadaver-sniffing dog called on the scene of what might be human remains. clint van dant is and msnbc news and lift. investigators, we're told are using special lights to look for blood shatter, other fluids, as well. what are the chances after 33 years, they're even going to find any usable evidence? >> well, let's talk about thisable. go back 33 years ago. this was a building that was used by prostitutes. it was a building used by drug addi addicts. so the possibility there could be human blood down there could have come from a lot of different reasons. but if it's there and if they can identify it as this missing young man, they can, in fact, start to build a case. >>ç searching nothing to do wi

physical evidence. what about people involved? we know the police have spoken with one or more of the people at the center of the investigation 30 years ago. if someone's been hiding something for this long, what are the chances they'll slip after more than three decades? >> well, if you get away with something for 30 years, you kind of put it in the back of your mind. you don't practice your story a lot. so if fbi agents are speaking to at least one if not two the different suspects in this case, there's a chance, just the chance somebody's going to say something, do something with their eyes, with their hands, with their words to give themselves away because they're not as practiced at keeping this lie. they haven't had to do it for three decades. >> why now? what can we make of the timing in particular? i mean, this was 1979. all of a sudden, yesterday, we see police and fbi at this building in soho. >> yeah, two good suspects in this case, one is on the street living in that area. the second has been in prison

for 25 years. the one who's been in prison who admits that he was with the victim on the day the victim disappeared hard charging federal prosecutor and fbi agent were able to put him away on other child-related charges. he gets out of prison this november. so i think the authorities are working very hard to try to build a case. if he is in, in fact, responsible they don't want to turn him loose on society again. they want to charge him with this disappearance, kidnapping, murder and take him down if they canning. >> formerç fbi profiler clint n zandt, have a great weekend. >> take care. >> that wraps things up for me. "now with alex wagner" is straight ahead. hi, mom. i got it. [ male announcer ] bravo, alex. you're officially an actress. and waitress, dog walker, and flier-hander-outer. but mostly an actress. you just booked the coveted role of coffee patron #4. i even have a line. my line is, "latte, please." i don't know. is she french? you know? "latte, please."

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who care about compaction, empathy and other human qualities. but it's still anate biter when it comes to the economy. it's friday, april 20th, and this is "now." >> joining me today, msnbc political analyst and georgetown professor michael eric dyson, lynn sweet of the "chicago sun-times," msnbc contributor steve kornacki and the always buzzy buzzfeed editor-in-chief ben smith. the new nbc news "wall street journal" poll shows when it is who more likable and easy going and who better looks out for the middle class, mitt romney loses to the president by tremendous margins. but when it comes to the economy, it's a much different story. a majority of voters disapprove of the president's handling of the economy and more voters is believe romney has better ideas to fix it. let's start first before we get