sitter yann governme the syrian government and iran for using targets to track this violence. these technologies should be in place to empower citizens, not repress them. >> the regime continues to violate a u.n. cease fire, security forces openly attacking, killing three dozen citizens in those attacks. this despite observers on the ground, hundreds more on the way trying to enforce a cease fire that has not been enforced and make sure that the assad regime stops attacks like these, although the mechanism is unclear. meantime, the iranian regime today bragging that it's able to replicate the u.s. military's top secret drone technology. this all ties back to a u.s. drone that malfunctioned and crashed in iran this winter. although iran said they intercepted the drone and did not damage its on-board technology in the intercept. still, iran a long way from

being able to engineer that particular technology. remember, at least as it stands now, our primary concern with iran is their desire to secure a nuclear weapon and inspire their influence in the middle east. we start with the president of strategic intelligence, nbc4 military analyst. he wrote the book called "basic." surviving boot camp. it comes out in the next two weeks. does anybody have leverage in that country or are we just talking? >> no, it's just talk. we tried for a long time to actually have some leverage. russia, to a lesser extent, china as well, opposed to any remedial action and they're constantly going to be a stumbling block against any effort the west may have to impose peace. >> do you share that assessment, and if not, what, if any value, is the value of the u.n.

inspectors beyond p.r. for the western politicians who want to make their voters believe that they're doing something? >> well, i think it would be a different case if there were actually political will on behalf of the foreign participants in this conflict to actually get militarily involved, but we're simply not seeing that. there is a strategic imperative that especially the united states and kentucky are trying not to get things back in syrian hands. we're not seeing the resources dedicated to that kind of project. in the meantime, we're just seeing a protracted conflict, and it shouldn't surprise anyone that you're having the syrians say yes to iran-backed plan, because at the very least, a u.n. plan recognizes endurance and the regime itself as a negotiating partner. so of course they're going to

say yes to that, but they have no intention of backing down on the crackdown itself. >> do you agree that the u.n. engagement implicitly validates the assad regime? >> i think using the u.n. frequently, especially boots on the ground, blue helmets and all that stuff, does, in fact, make it more difficult to get a solution that winds up not killing people. we've seen it time and time again. we saw it in africa, we saw it in lebanon. we saw it everywhere. the instant you bring the united nations in as an organization on the ground in theory working towards peace rather than new york where they just talk about it, it's much less dangerous when they're in new york just talking about it. >> let's move to iran specifically. how much information do we have about what they have? >> well, they have a more or less intact drone. that's the bad news. the good news is it's one thing

to be able to reconstruct an air frame and even a propulsion system and even some of the electronics, but having a drone is not the same thing as having an operating drone, nor having the uplinks and downlinks and the computer capability in order to sbrerinterpret it. it's much less of a threat to us, for example, or even israel than the drones were to iran. >> and reva, the same thing. do you share the analysis, and beyond that, what is the implied threat to the world of the explosion of the number of unmanned aerial aircraft that could theoretically be driven by friend or foe of any country over time? >> i agree with that assessment, largely. there are a lot of safeguards that are designed within these intelligence collection assets, designed specifically to prevent data from falling into enemy hands. iran is going to claim it can do a lot of things with this information, and it can use this information to an extent,

especially with russian and chinese help, but it's not a military game changer. iran's military strategy is very much -- unmanned military systems are much more useful for a military life outside the united states that's fighting these wars in very far-flung places. it's an interesting development, but again, not a game changer in any sense by iran. >> i could not only echo that but take it one step further. drones are very effective against relatively unsophisticated military operations like that at the taliban and al-qaeda. much less effective against really sophisticated military establishments like the united states and israel, for example. drones are very -- >> why? >> they're very vulnerable to sophisticated, intercept anti-aircraft techniques, high-performance aircraft and so on, whereas the taliban and

al-qaeda on the ground with crew-served weapons, small floor weapons, they have a hard time. >> if we look at the latest play in syria, which is what the latest play in iran is, we have to talk about the natural gas pipeline in egypt and israel. reva, i'll start this with you. in the scope of stability to the degree to which that is an accessible concept in the middle east, in your view, are we trending inaggregate towards more or less stability intracountry and intercountry regionally and globally? >> in a sense, yes. you see the rise of their

intentions to contain it. you see egypt coming under increasing political pressure and the pipeline agreement is just one illustration of those tensions, in addition to the commercial disputes between them. >> you're saying, yes, we're getting less stable or more stable? >> less. >> less stable. go ahead, jack. >> i was going to say, yeah, i do, and as a matter of fact i'll go one step further and say we have seen, since the onset of the arabs planning a general deterioration of stability in the region, and i think that now that the inertia of relative stability has been overcome, i think gravity is is really going to take hold here and we're going to see increasing stability in the region, fragmented politics and national security establishments in the region. i think it's going to become much more difficult over time, and i think you can even step

out on a limb and predict that there's going to be a great deal of conflict within 18 months. >> do you agree with that? and reva, is there anyone ala nelson mandela, someone who can step into the theatre as it becomes less stable and say, listen, either we decide not to kill each other or we don't, and we have to make that decision. >> i wouldn't be as alarmed on these trends. yes, there are rising concerns, there is rising conflict, but you need to look at it through a very careful lens. when you look at the arab spring effect, in particular, there is a lot of analysis out there saying regimes are going to fall like dominoes in this region. but if you took a very close look at the regimes, look at egypt, look at yemen where the foreign regime is very much in place. a lot of different areas of the region that are enduring, and yes, you are going to have rising instability. does it mean everything is going to collapse tomorrow?

no, not by any means. and when it comes to a military conflict with iran, i still don't see that in the cards in the near future. there is still a number of constraints to such a military confrontation militarily and politically, and i'm just not seeing the political will toward that end and anybody willing to take those risks. >> the one thing the military is against conflict, particularly with iran, and it's interesting to keep in mind that ahmadinejad is a liberal there. >> yeah. you want to get into conflict and interpretation in iran, there is incredibly -- thanks, guys, nice to see you again. thanks, reva. the politics of our higher education system, a president trying to appeal to a generation that gave him a job, but now they can't find a job for themselves.

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the show "earl" is all about 20-something new yorkers. new analysis by the associated press shows that more than half of college graduates in 2012 will find themselves either unemployed or, at best, underemployed. so this week in an effort to fire up what carried himself to office in 2008, the president heads to colorado and iowa. this is a tougher crowd for the president than four years ago as enthusiasm for president obama is down 18 percentage points,

about a third from 2008. it's time now for the monday mega panel. i feel like there's almost two conversations here. one, how does the president convince unemployed young people that he's going to help them, and then two, does he even have to bother as long as they don't like mitt romney? there's two different things which is, one, the president -- whoever the president is actually doing any policies that are helping anybody do anything, and how much is the president just somebody that you like better than the other guy who you hate worse? >> well, politically speaking, that seems to be very much the culture. the obama campaign, on some level, which you may be tepid on me, but do you really want that guy? to me that's pretty compelling. but i'd like to see the president be more agressive, but i would have liked to see that

three years ago. so i'll lament the fact that romney, in some respects, a stronger candidate because newt gingrich certainly showed how to defeat romney when you talk about as a rule tour capitalism, but i don't think w'll see the president have to go there because, you know, mitt romney is not putting up enough of a fight. >> there's still half of the graduating class either unemployed -- there is a point where being forced to choose between two politicians who aren't going to help you, people are going to have to come up with some other way to do this, guys. >> i wonder how much the obama administration is now listening to pam cedar. the message is, guess what, you don't have to be so much for the left. you don't have to stand up for your principles very much because they're not going to go to the other guy. >> it's the axelrod theory. >> yes. but on the college graduates, part of the problem is that there was this promise made, which is part of this analogous to the obama problem in the

first place. if you go to college, there will be a good job waiting for you, and economically that simply doesn't work out. there are not enough sort of mental worker type jobs that enable people to, you know, sort of monetize their college -- >> or this culture right now isn't doing it. >> encouraging people to go to college maybe wasn't the best idea. >> you guys are wearing complimentary attire. his tie, your dress. >> it's just a bit much. in all seriousness, a conversation about college education, college degrees and so forth. if you look at the projected figures for the jobs by 2020, the occupations that will be creating the most jobs, only three of them will be for jobs for those with college degrees.

acting, teaching and university professors. >> but again, you don't know what the world is going to do. this is one of those things we are charging people a ton of money on a deal we're not able to -- >> the issue isn't there's something wrong with college, the issue is there's something wrong with the idea that you're necessarily going to get a job. college isn't just a vocational school, either. theoretically, it helps our society to have more educated people. if we're worried about the costs that students are burdened with, because we're going to hit $1 trillion. the most meaningful reason why the price has gone up, then we should go back to the model of providing free quality educations that we keep chopping away and chopping away at. the answer s you know what, it's

better if we just have a small sector of the population going to college. y unless we're going to have a quota system that every third president can't be an ivy leaguer or something like that, or the justices, we're going to have two spots open for people who did not go to college. we can provide college that burdens people to come out of debt. >> a really expensive college -- >> all the anger is directed at the banks and what about the colleges use ting this money to build all sorts of bells and whistles. i was in one of the most expensive colleges in the country. >> they're just trying to recruit to get money, it doesn't have to do with learning anything. in fact, learning has gotten

pretty cheap when you're looking at the combination of human beings, it's just that we figured out how to sucker everyone's brain. >> part it have is we have a society where part of the benefits are rising to the top of the. >> culture capital. >> which is a sign of a waste. if you're going to get connections, it's a sign of that the kids do enjoy. video games your narrative. . so you just make a video game about it examine let people figure out how to do it. some of ron paul's supporters

didn't think it was too complete. >> this guy named ron is awesome. i hooked up with the twin cathedrals, the people on the soundtrack. we got 15 law sites building the branch of the federal reserve. and i assure you plenty of other little treats. >> and the genius in the game is the little ron paul. you go around collecting delegates for your presidential campaign, gold for the bank, and then you ultimately have to disassemble the different branches of the federal reserve as you go through the game. at the very least, i like the concept of sort of teaching

through --. i feel i will learn more about a given narrative through this product. >> it's educational, it's accessible. the thing about the whole ron paul thing, though, you really have a president obama of 2012. it's evolutionary. that's the sad shape that obama is fighting. >> what do you think? do you think mitt romney would be better off with a video game describing his economic plans? >> i think that would be an ugly video. one of the great things ron paul has done is focus on the fact that there is , and they collec

their own money, about interest rates, about. what the government did before, this pulled out t.a.r.p., and after t.a.r.p., a lot of it is federal. >> 27 billion was from congress and the rest of it was in the federal reserve. that's where the money is. >> and the people who make money, it's not even printed, it's out of thin air. >> it's a computer. you just add some zeros. that's fine. >> so even if you don't agree with ron paul's opinions, you at least need to make sure what the fed is doing. >> i think there needs to be more accountability for the fed. i don't know where else you print it from.

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it's not often you find answers to life's most existential questions like who are we? where do we come from? how are we all connected? our specialist today is a geneticist whose ground-breaking research provides new news to those quandaries when it comes to our physical constitution. he paint a picture of a deep and int interwoven ancestry. this is brian sykes, author of "dna usa."

when you look at it -- >> it can be done with relative ease. >> i'll give you a cheek swath. when you look at the analysis, what bore itself out? >> fundamentally, what i was interested in in looking at america is here you have a fantastic convergence of three couldnntinents from a genetic p of view. i just wanted to see how they mixed up, what it showed about original origins, even how different parts of their genes came from different places and what they thought about it. >> what did you find? >> there is a lot of mixing, as you would have guessed, but it's not just that you have african-americans and native americans and european americans within the dna, you can see

traces of everybody within everybody. i discovered i have a bit of african dna. i have an african ancestor. it's not just the individual mix that makes up america but you've got that mix within yourself. and your genes are cooperating with each other, because if they didn't, you would be dead. >> i think i understand from your research that you think america may have had some european visitors a little before 1492. can you expand on that? >> yes, this is a very, very good indicator of ancestry, which is a piece of data handed down the maternity line. when that was looked at, they

were full groups of people. in recent years, a fifth group has been identified, particularly tribes that lived close to the great lakes. and their matches with the four main groups of native americans are from siberia and eastern asia. but in the great lakes, this particular cluster of dna comes not from asia. there's no trace of it there -- but from europe. i think around about the same time, something around 10,000 years ago, there was a small number of bheem. i think that most likely we see in the smallest portion of lady.

. there is a typical sort of grouping off. there is that would be the exception in my observation. how much does it matter how much a country like ours sort of intermixes racially. . >> would we be the same between more african, european, interracial marriage, or does that not make much sense. >> there is a little mixing amount that has taken place, whether or not it was acknowledged. simple, from african-americans think they are.

>> they certainly all do. among european americans, particularly the south i didn't. okay. the south and the u.s. i didn't ask to ride from hundreds or thousands of gallon a fuel, at looeg. cluss of western central soimz. because that.

. i'm pretty sure they would have had some african dna in the south. my next question would have been, because one of the great things about this particular test, is you can identify which jeans you got from where. but let's say a leggret wo-months zeen prepare him for his cad. >> how many people did you sample? in some cases, i would think we would see more of this. we approach it from the general idea that everyone is genetically homeogenius. it is. it is. among the defendants of early

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there were some times when it was perfectly legal to shoot anybody carrying an rpg. i shot somebody with one and they sent a boy out to pick it up. i know eases pihe's picking it hand it back off to someone to use it against us, they just couldn't take the shot. >> that is the words of the most recently retired sniper, chris kyle. he was on the show a few episodes back. he decided how to know whether or not to take a target. it's a process he's learned. a former navy s.e.a.l. himself, his new book tells the story of how he went from a california surfer to one of america's most elite soldiers.

with us now is retired navy s.e.a.l. brandon webb, former course manager for the navy s.e.a.l. sniper program. he wrote the best seller "the red circle," the sniper corps and how i trained the world's deadliest marksman. brandon, it's a real pleasure to have you here. >> thank you. i'm a fan. >> what are we missing? in other words, our military capabilities are world class. the training you went through and you demonstrate are without parallel. our paths are uniquely identified targets and address them through the very techniques you teach is extraordinary. what could we learn about what those capabilities to both be more respectful of them and also use them more effectively? >> i think what i talk about in

the book is really, you know, what goes in to making up the chris kyle who wrote "american snipe sniper." just the tremendous sacrifice these individuals make on a daily basis and the impact at home with their families as well. i try and really convey that in the book, and it's just a tremendous sacrifice that not only the s.e.a.l.s make, but the broader picture is the everyday war fighter. the training that these guys get, we really -- the navy s.e.a.l. sniper program is one of the best in the world. not a lot of people even realize that the s.e.a.l. community has their own corps. it's three months in length, and it's really like going to getting a harvard mba. we spend so much time with these snipers and train them in

technology. these guys are plugging in firing formulas to count for the spin of the earth, the corealis effect, and the shots these guys make on a daily basis all over the globe are incredible. these guys are taking shots over a mile away at the enemy in afghanistan. >> the biggest sacrifice that you have had to make, those you will have trained and are your brothers that the rest of us may not be aware of or don't fully appreciate? >> for me, i think 9/11 affected us all very differently, but, you know, i came home from a morning workout, saw the second plane hit the towers and knew that i was going to be in afghanistan and miss the birth of my son, my first son. so i was in the caves hunting

bad guys in afghanistan when my son was born. so, you know, those situations happen. i don't regret serving the country. i would do it all over again, but, you know, that was a big reason i wrote this book, was to harness and record all these life lessons and stories for my own family so later on in life, they can pick up a book and go, okay, that's why dad wasn't at my little league game on saturday. he was out doing meaningful stuff to protect the country. >> as you know, less than half a percent of people in this country have served in the army or the military over the course of the afghanistan war. my personal view is that that has created a tremendous disconnect between the domestic american culture and people who, like yourself, have engaged on our behalf in this conflict.

do you agree with that assessment, and either way, what can we do as a culture today to help all of our returning veterans remain a prized portion of our society? >> you know, it's a complicated subject. you get into the disconnect between the broader american culture and the current conflicts that we're facing. it's incredible that we have more people vote for "american idol" than our own presidential elections. i think for me as a former american fighter and a veteran, it's really telling people to pay attention to the politician we see put in office, because afghanistan has turned into quite the mess, in my opinion, and, you know, we really need to start focusing on root causes more than treating the symptoms

of terrorism, like what are the situations the social and political environments have produced the osama bin ladens of the world. i think the issue around the veterans, there are veterans coming back doing great things, and these guys don't want or need handouts, but i think just a basic appreciation for the service is enough, and yeah, i was in new york a couple weeks ago, and i love new york, and everyone i met was just fantastic and thanked me for my service. i just replied, look, i enjoyed every minute of it, i sleep well at night and i would serve this country again in a heartbeat. >> well, it was a pleasure to see you when you were here in person. i know you didn't get on television that day. something happened. it was a delight to see you again on remote. is the image behind you fake

right now or real? >> no, i think they've got some type of image that they're piping in from the outside. i'm not suffering in san diego, that's for sure. >> as long as you're not suffering, we'll be fine. the book is what you were here to talk about. it's called "the red circle." it's on the best seller list. that's the author you were just listening to, brandon webb. the subtitle of the book, "my journey into the elite navy seal sniper corps." there's commercial success, which means people are hearing your story across the board. thank you, brandon. >> thanks, dylan. john edwards going to our criminal trial. chris is on it. the former senator faces up to 30 years. chris takes over in just a minute. but first, "the bachelor" hot water with random acts of racism. [ dr. rahmany ] introducing

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it's time for keli. >> president obama has endless evidence to the contrary. case in point, the death of trayvon martin and all the questions about racial profiling. but a lesser contender for the list? reality tv. according to the whacked plaintiff who just filed suit behind the mastermind of "the bachelor" and "the bachelorette

". i, for one, would like to send a thank you bouquet to the creators. it's clear i'm not referring to programs like "american idol" which at least requires some sort of talent to participate. i'm referring to the real housewives of atlanta. most of them involve women of color. a cast of "wives" filed assault charges against the other. for those of you who consider this fun, consider this. the stereo type of the black woman is so invasive that michelle obama got tired of people saying she is one. you would think we are 95% of the violent troublemakers out there. these aren't the only shows that play on the stereo type. shows like "the real world" all

have their angry black man or woman. i certainly don't believe hollywood is required to show us in an entirely positive light, but a little parody would be nice. while meryl streep gets "the iron lady" or bridemaids," we get the other. look at the greatest recruitment tool in the history of the ku klux klan. they stereotype black americans as lazy. now a hundred years later, our popular culture really hasn't changed that much, and according to the poverty law center, hate groups have increased in recent years. but i guess those making money on it are too busy laughing to the bank to really care.

>> i wonder how much you sum it up by saying a lot of this is done with no thought. >> right. >> that it's not done because of a -- i have no idea. all the things that are so offensive on so many layers of our society, not just with race, beyond race, i wonder how many of those things across the board are just done more because of the mindless pursuit of i don't know what, and how much of it is really conscious? >> it's like gangsta rap demeaning women or minstrel shows demeaning black americans. >> the failure to be awake in your decision making is disastrous, really disastrous when it comes to things like race and we're asleep. at best, we're asleep with race. thank you much. >> thanks, dylan. could have been a contender.