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♪ president obama and former president clinton acting like bffs at a big fund raiser last night in virginia, president obama talking up hillary clinton, former president clinton tearing down the xwchlt o. . just a few days ago, we saw bill clinton touting the commander in chief's success killing osama bin laden. >> you hire the president to make the callhen no one else coit. >> buthe op itng ck sanginlan' ahld nobe ud rlics esoba s co took something that was a unifying event for all merns and he's managed to turn it into ady vice sif partisan political attack.
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>> casey hunt is the national political reporter for the associated press and matt welch, good morning to both of you. so is there a fine line do you think between i guess playing politics with something like this and highlighting a legitimate accomplishment some we are in the political season. >> yes, that we are. and you have to rember we're stl the vry oping stes tsenallei a hiofoue a ed ito ennerryhas hpeng wi tsee tilngof osa n de . we move forward, it's still going to depend a lot on the fundamentals of the economy. so whether or not the obama administration is able to sustain this conversation about bin laden, one that does help them in the long run, really is something that they would have to work really hard to do. and i think they'll be answering a lot of charges from the romney campaign on other issues as the campaign goes forward.
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>> the obama campaigns that a new 7 minute video that outlines the president's first term in office. it will scroll through his accomplishments and the iraq war, lya beted, oambin lan ad b ihi wat rubca rllbjctoar aten le i >>us arsprt am in and get that h valued target. mitt romney said that was foolish. he wouldn't do such a thing will. that he wouldn't move heaven and earth to get osama bin laden. >> matt, what the campaign says is, look, we're just say thie se facts. it is the one year anniversary. are they right? >> they're right that it is the one year anniversary and that mitt romney said any number of things on the campaign trail back in 2007 and 2008.
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i think the underlying fact is that this is not goingo be an iue in the 20elecon itast 208. harer ad ha inagnsanbsutnoce it aexic nme were in 2008 this year. so it's not going to come up. and as for the republican charge of politicizing these things, let's never forget that the 2004 national convention was held as close as humanly possible to the anniversary of september 11th in new york city and the entire theme of that convention was about 9/11 and the response to it and the democrats in-effect all weak-kneed positioning on it. >> there is a big special comg a ian t pay a cip o erede fm e suaon >> if i'm not mistaken, pete,
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this picture was taken right as the helicopter was having some problems. but you may not remember. that's what feels like because i remember hillary putting her hand over her mouth at that point. there's silence at this point inside the room. >> when you look at it, what does it conjure up inside you? >> that's the way i usually look when my husband drags me to an action movie. you know, what it conjures up is all theemtinshaere nng throhyan eer otr rs ihaml grp. wusanexpeha will air wednesday on rock
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center at 9:00 eastern time. but to matt's point, this is an election that eventually will likely wise or fall based on the economy, but does will this legitimately say something to voters about how the president makes decisions? >> sure. it absolutely does. and they know that. and it's also one of the biggest advantages of being the incumbent president. mitt rney do n he a tuioro t ivinef orn pealn eor were watching that situation room interview. >> well, i think that what we now know is that so many people around president obama sounded a lot like mitt romney used to in the last campaign, that they had
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doubts and concerns that they thought that the gamble was too high. and we saw the president of the united states make a decision, take a very high risk shot at what he saw as to the one of the mostsyol a iornt chleesacing the it at. d i think whatth'rryg cnvutnthamig tta oer outha ri wtohih. amto i h th people made. i think matt welch is absolutely right that there was no resistance at all among gop circles in doing what they're now accusing president obama of doing. but i think what's different is that obama would be a done president had he failed, had that helicopter had a disaster and had people come out with either casualties. soit's rmaab gmb a
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thkhere tryin t sw atheobawehsll t iseshect ke a iis movement. the question was how much influence was he having at that point. let me read for you part of an op-ed from the "wall street journal" today. the headline is al qaeda is far from defeated. seth jones points to yes, ma'am men and somalia and pakistan where he says al qaeda is regrouping and writes, al qaeda is far from dead, acting as if it were whether not wll n ket . treineine tt e ithoe wlkng wth is ors a ir hp?
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thot peor o p m kind of terrorism industrial complex, if you will, that just refuseds to sort of talk about degrees of let. yes, there are al qaeda members up there that have now been inspired to take action and that build up largely occurred during the bush/cheney years and what president obama has been doing, and i was skroekijoking around, with many of those people at the white house correspondents dinner a year o. iaedo ln n tks d in immediately
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identifying the connections and the ecosystem in which bin laden operated, then this would be a failure. but what we've seen is a very steady roll up targeting of many other senior al qaeda lieutenants, executives, plot managers, and we'veeen t ceerit nio o t igall edneoran ma othafliescy ti oth orin aqaa twk d nyf e fi. rolling up this network continuing to operation. so i think the momentum has been
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on the side of the administration and t pentagon and cia and our allies frankly who have been key partners in this in really taking down what was such a horrible threat for so long. >> and obviously this is serious business, but you you bring up the white house correspondents dinner in part because it was about the one year anniversar it wassed r forejokes incling this oyth pridt. >>asye ath mein fa o tsveween w comedian in this case it was jimmy kimmel, but any comedian that has to follow the president because his lines were so good. >> casey, let me bring you back in. when you look at that iconic
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situation room photo, the polls tell us the most popular person in it is hillary clinton and last newtasightasheir o three in fu-raise. e esenaihiara ved haye getting osama bin laden features former president bill clinton. so it's very clear that there is a thaw there. they've been competitive over the years. very acrimonious in 2000 # a8 a hillary has been dropping hints that she's considering a run for president in the future and this
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is clear lay is it tly is sp th atrede omas coizg e fct tt e clto he al ntbud roho h aintrio d tate brd gng rwarthha tir furemit nd sakreprt ris later, she won'p drunk texting me from cartagena. >> obviously, matt, as secretary of state, she won't be out on the campaign trail, but how interesting is it how he's using her any way, right? >> yeah. he's trying to gather the democratic base, the flock all together under the same nr. in y ic nessy, agvendtrg s cy
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he's patting himself on the back and making sure we don't see ever the photos of osama bin laden's corpse. they are stage managing this stuff and we should recognize that even while assessing positively those aspects of the record that have been positive. >> so that note, matt, casey, steven, great to talk with all you. >> ad hilly clintonrres incha earledsd moin u. ahisetur a woin fvesho flpoced orti
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for example, senator harry reid is expected to bring up the paycheck fairness act for a vote on protect women who inquire about the salaries of their male colleagues. in the past republicans have voted to block the bill. let's bring in "washington post" political reporter and huffing post columnist. good morning to both of you. kathyroge w on me t es t w owonaseay my, i h bncrte b e moatinnfrto stctics t r anm r country was
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taking. >> well, christine, on that note, paycheck fairness last week, it was the violence against women act. is the war on women a myth or does it move votes? >> the war on women is absolutely real, chris. john boehner declared it in february right after he got the speakership. he sd en it me to plann panthood, heolaro liou lde w n' nt jt n ebatl weanto win t wagns andpaod he cne ernogy dtega well, with this fair pay ,
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it seems mitt romney has a couple options. either he splits with republicans and for that matter with the u.s. chamber of commerce or he sticks with them and risks alienates women, moderate women voters, that's the democrat strategy, right? >> yeah, i think that . their rategythese dmocrats onheil dbvus presenoba, oo i t daw mi rne itoke man chaeser today with snorkelly
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and snorkelly andenato senator kelly ayotte. i do think democrats in many ways do have an edge here in terms of the there is a vacuum re tt romy s te a snd and fireut w tge h payin aeterpoti caeh'racg ral p he, aou 1oitsby act him come back to the middle 1234. >> his own staffer told us he was going to etch a sketch. we've known romney has a history of flip-flopping. mormon bishop romney was pro-choice when he ran against ted kennedy who artfully and correctly called him multiple choice mitt. so this this is an issue of
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fairness. women deserve an issue day's pay for an equal day's work and when romney strategists deny tha women are pidess than men, at tes yo how o o uc eye. mi rnenes gacn uch wiamic wenho arwoinunl ri oheowoawh ak c small businesses, and by passing the fair pay act, congress could go a long way to helping women and mitt romney, this is one place he out to flip, go to the center. >> and is it just mainly for the presidential ectionr do you think when push came to shove and they hado ten e t, wesaome o t reblansi. tre oioly mtiraon t
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n'y. talking about the social safety net because those are the issues that in traveling with mitt romney, those are the issues that women bring up. he was at a small round table a couple weeks ago and those are the issues that women talked about. aing care of their parents. what does it mean when they can't afford to care for hair parts, to care for their kids. so those are the huhs that you'll have to see mitt romney talk about a little bit more. an he h done th in this la secth hga after wiin tose fe cri. u w akileener m vo fbataed
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haven't had any luck picking up his trail. they've been working with local forces and believe he's hiding in uganda's dense jungle. u.s. forces are providing intelligence and setting up better communications to link the troops together. the pressure on kony is apparently paying off. the pace of ras, abdtions and killingsassled >>atea kll i tn isre's been a large ship that collided with a 37-foot sailboat in the waters off southern california. three crew members have been found dead, a fourth is still missing. this is the second deadly racing accident this weeks in that area. and take a look at this new
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j rota tis. welcome back. a lot of people were very unhappy when they saw this, people care about tax fairness. what was your reaction? >> this explains one of the problems we have with the american tax policy. our corporate rate is 35%, the average tax rate in europe is 25%. a lot of countries have significantly lower international tax rates. canada isbo %. anmecan coanthoe a lo o binsntnaonly rcsebyadi f taxan
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rate in united states and the tax rate in a tiny country like ireland where the infrastructure is completely different and the population is very different and compare it to the united states? you you might say that's like comparing running walmart the way you would run a bodega on a street corner in new york city. >> higher marginal tax rates on businesses are bad for economic growth. canada isot apipqak cotry. weetainbo gnict unie hre atav her any wetat.
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moof ov move overseas or get purchased by somebody overseas because the tax advantages are so high. let's look at stupid. we're taxing american businesses stupidly and damagingly. we need to recuse our marginal tax rates so that we're competitive in the world. and we don't force companies to do one of two things. either go through the various gaand technical tax polies at aleomplely lga b l umngrod,r mke c, me yr teerlo motivating factor himd the layoffs, 40% said because business had fallen off. only 3% cited financial issues
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like the tax code. >> well, one of the reasons business falls falls off is if obama gets reelected, 60 occasis atft, ters ta inea athcoore te l tarusax juhe is to take a gamble, are you sure obama's going away? what if he's there? it will devastate your consumer, the businesses you sell to and your own company, as well. there's a real problem coming down the pike very quickly at us in the united states and it scares investors to invest in
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other places. >> it took some arm twisting for nservatives toebendom roeyndarofhereons sc d at running for president. he's committed to not increasing the tax burden on the american people. and in that, he stands in stark contrast with obama and the democrats who think we should pay more of our money in total. >> let's be fair. 9 t the taxing ins, particularly the buffett rule, affect a very small percentage of americans. if you look at the pls, that isssumed b themerican people.
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buhado tt ov prident ams dg erenevue cea me fli o th massive spending increase until he loops the middle crass. behalf for the value added tax, all the people around him are planning to put that on the american people as they have in europe, massive tax on consumption. all the president tells you with his teeny little tax mcon rich people is that he's coming for the rest of us. the alternative minimum tax was opposed to 5 people. janua thkso a, wlitmiio ameca th a spod t bthic mooetein
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alternative minimum tax. >> always having to have you on. thank you so much. >> you got it. there is more relief at the gas pump. mandy drury here with what's moving your money and the numbers are headed in the right correction. direction. >> gas prices are continuing to fall and aaa is saying prices fell by a nickle this past week with the ara priceor gallon orelaat $32 tiwi. atf urisheavag so y reso p s th manicis thank you.
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we also both have degrees from harvard. i have one. he has two. what a snob. his campaign criticized me for slow jamming the news with jimmy fallon. in fact i understand governor romney was so incenseincensed, d his staf if key gqli onhe mrvriishw. lgh i u t rne caaind richard wolffe
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and goldie taylor. good morning to both of you. richard, you were surrounded by people saturday night. i didn't get a chance to say hello. but i'm wondering, do you think the romney campaign has a point, in the end, will it matter who is hipper, who is cooler, who yowould rather have a bee th >> allhei ater nt suouinme, tnkof jt pa ohe crd. t osor, lo, i's t in t whors tatg messages, yes, that's important. when he makes a joke about rec santorum saying having a college degree makes you a snob, when he makes that kind of joke, yes,
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it's fun if i, there's a bit of self deprivation in there, too, but it'ses also speaking to people about those values that were expressed through the republican contest. so there is politicsow at the boomfit nd on tamanngid mein-dep reseachnta lk a tis sthawe p ren b bush/dukakis. clinton/bush. and then we could go on to the races '96, 2000. and when we went through them, the consensus was that in every case, the person you'd rather sit down and have a beer with was the person who won. are we underestimating that sort of niceness, coolness relate ability factor? >> i like the phrase the brew factor.
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and, yes, it does matter. but what also matters is what's indehebottle. and so if i don ke the bee i'morhe gog ry ai ansoutoure gh ckindo maer eayesge e rled ds at reagan, someone who you'd really love to have a beer with to do just that job. and so substance does matter, but the label, the packaging also matters. and i think the president certainly plays well into that. as for mitt romney, he'll have a harder time. i mean, this guy was a suit before he got his first suit. he's ery, very sort o tighy un anyogo t nd ifhe in brtll d ha'sog be prlefom >>tcmney's folks.
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if you get to know him will, he's hilarious. it's an acknowledgement of a problem. >> and let's all face it, these are performances. when you see the president making a joke, that's a performance, too. the question here is are they comfortable asking people as bush would say, asking people for the vote. are they happy campaigning. are they comfortable in a pli spe. and rtf e b rl frmi a pt sohe te wt eeike tiss on w
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so there's not a lot else that voters can go on. it's a character decision. >> great talking to both of you. and today's tweets of the day, hohmann writes forward is obama's unofficial new slogan and the title of a 7 minute video. garry adds irochat a presidt op wpresides ov a stag ecomyould e forwas alon. fot dog . my mother said ot dogartt to f amer branagerand sai "lvehis dog and alco s ecan bupr brager rig we'v lof
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next hour marking the one year anniversary of the killing of osama bin laden. why the right is accusing the president of spiking the football or do repubcans just el a sse o urgre andens aorys panwo pateebsitefo grg
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a chi niz activist escapes house arrest and may now be under u.s. protection. this happens between days before hillary clinton arrives for a visit. republicans accuse president obama of using the death of osama bin laden to his political advantage. does this ad cross the line.

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