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to find a dliptic haven with the u.s. and beijing. no short and of targets at the white house correspondents dinner. president obama mocks them all. >> in the vast magnificent hilton ballroom or w arlahewott drk xtg fm rgena. gd day i'm anea mitchell le in washington. four years ago, they fought like cats and dogs. >> he's very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough, hillary. >> give me a break. this whole thing is the biggest fairy tale i've ever seen. .asoedy hey've
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hiarinorr caaicirn,il bf tey ou liveho tweeted this picture. the former president is featured in a campaign video praising the bin laden raid. >> he had to decide. and that's what you hire a president to do. you hire the president to make the calls when no one else can do it. >> chris cillizza is ea soikhe canli bi. h'r visl nlo frnd bu billlinton isoi out there and validating president obama if he needs validation. and raising money more to the point. >> yeah, you know, andrea, i did
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a little checking on this last night just on people who know both men and kind of their relationship. those clips you played in 2008, politicians don't forget those sorts of things. let's point there. i don't thinke idt a t acal n t as opote o anheasoofhrfoer stf dasom t pp who raisemoney r them. so somef e of tension that we hear about from time to time is probably moral about people below them on the food chain than actually obama and clinton. and i would say look, politics is about self-interest. always has been, always will be. barack obama knows bill clinton can not only raise him money from clinton folks who supported his wife back in 2008 and might not be on board and he can bpled
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licsf t wleuti wthsa b len t hion b laden wth that raid is an appropriate or not campaign claim. this is becoming one of the big arguments of the last couple of days. >> you know, andrea, this may be a cynical and not widely held view but it is in my belief in politics, almost anything is far game. oueitut lkg ou ofsa b len d s a. no t president don' derve sole credit. he wasn't one of the people who raided the compound but he was ultimately the guy that if things had gone wrong, blame would have fallen on him. and that thing went right, he gets the credit for it.
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i just tend to believe in politics, you are what your record says you are. on the economy, his record is uite oba oerha rdon oam biladen. here's a n videohejust p tod >> he perseved here at home and as commander in chief. >> tonight, i can report to the american people and to the world that the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden, the leader of al qaeda. >> go, go, go. >> and a terrorist who is responsible for the murderom tf eass pridenba h co o
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ofheos dviveredes arin histy. heookomethihat was a unifying event for all americans and managed to turn it into a divisive partisan political attac attack. >> stephanie cutter is the deputy campaign manager for the president's re-election team and joins me from chicago. you've got the video up today. the anniversary is tomorrow. you've been, they say,enni it ea potil ta a noneisteth t esentderv cdifo orri t raiutto poticizet isway is the ight of hypocrisy. your response? >> uh-huh. well, i think most americans would disagree. it was an incredibly momentous night almost a year ago, a year ago tomorrow when the president reported to the country that we got bin laden, that he had been
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killed. after a decade after searching for him, we got it done. the president gott'thsint o dehede, whh ukw,vehr llzaai i uld ve tuedut badlyand been a real political hit if it didn't turn out well. he paid the tough decision because he thought it was -- he was willing to take that 50-50 shot and we ultimately got him. i think most americans would agree it wttneta
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itexoiti, 's fa ttomy idi he she won'tav gne to pakistan to pursu bin lan with actionable intelligence if the pakistanis wouldn't get him. he also said he wouldn't move heaven and earth to get bin laden. well the president did move heaven and earth. it wasn't just one order. he moved heaven and earth to get him and that's a distinct difference. nit. br at at stfdole h agnsridt amanal a flti ait jmy carter. >> your response to that? >> that's an incredibly gracious thing for him to say. he should just say, this president deserves congratulations for making that order and i hope i would do the same thing just as president clinton said, it's the gracious thing to say at a moment like this. unfortunately, mitt romney didn't take that opportunity.
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>> the other criticism we're hearing from republicans i wanh hi terwa setng a tt b okey outhe pridt owjainan aparing to make lht of the fact that of students are struggling. late night is a place where you can reach people who usually aren't tuned into the political process. we'll probably do it again but you won't see the governor slow jam. >> so we're not going to see mitt romney slow jamming the news with jimmy fallon. iswe sd tat mitt mn w
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gl tt ra oma flod hiadce on t auto ilout by you know, pushing the autos into bankruptcy and restructuring. you know that's not true. every american knows that's not true. mitt romney said we should let detroit go bankrupt and not give them a lifeline, that ultimately ended up saving the companies. he tti rne w, sn go tutnyew pocy tas o s onic ans. i ink that'soingtoe abig problem for them in this general election. i think the american people want to know exactly what he plans to do for this country. is he going to do for america what he did for massachusetts? if so they should have an understanding what that means, more debt, fewer jobs, manufacturing jobs leaving the state. government jobs created, taxes being raised. all of those things. so you know, we hope that mitte
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ov t pevusedend th pevusadniraonha dreth cnt i bt, tued surplus into deficits and ultimately, destroyed the middle class. so you know, a couple of interesting things to note about his performance at "the washington post" this weekend. >> we're going to have to leave it there. thank you very much, stephanie cutter. and mitt romney is in new hampshire today, perhaps auditioning another possible running mate. this is kelly . v bbs aeblan sttestnd ttomy suorr d joins me now. a lot totackle there. >> a lot.
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>> first of all, what about kelly ayotte? what about this list we're told governor sue knew knew former governor said today there could be as many as 20 on the list. we're told by our folks garrett haake covering the campaign it's closer to 10 to 15. rooz o am. i ulueou bil ow quklto f hh l alie people. i think senator portman is on the list, senator rubio, i suspect governor pawlenty is probably on the list and probably several others but only mitt romney and beth myers know. they're the only ones that are going to know till this summer. >> does he have to get more bud
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riceovni peen, bit peen, ngssnaexricealf thabe. t some would say. >> you're doing well making the case. >> some would say it's too much plain vanilla. >> first of all, carrying ohio by a big margin as he did when he ran for senator is exciting to me. but you know, i've heard that argument we need to pizazz up the ticket. i look at the history of presidential races. i don't think that has very often worked very etota is geral adniraonhiwo othe ymcs he rll intie tant anpu it to work r him. whoever we pick is going to be an extraordinary choice. >> what about the fact that four years ago, he said to the
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associated press, mitt romney said it's not worth moving heaven and earth and spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person, meaning bin laden. today he says even jimmy carter would have made that order. isn't it true that what the presiden l f capan. ariddervretor foign pocyucss. buhe uayet ity not talking about it as politically as this president has. ed gillespie is right, he's taken a legitimate accomplishment and turned it into a campaign ad. i think that was a dumb mistake for the campaign in chicago. i'm surprised they made it. >> is it dumb or is it shameful? >>
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bgltmp adnte atevyby ew s inoe e of hre acmpshnts. and ye hurnedtn a mpaignpot. right at the very beginning of his campaign. i just think he's debased it and turned it into a legitimate political argument. the very fact that we're talking about it, that ed gillespie is talking about it, problems to me that they've taken an accomplishment that should be way up here and they've turned it into a base political discourse. >> win webber, thankspthrehe po c c e eem u n ly t omer toeethcayorerv splanit free. ya know, for whoever you are that day. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz.
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rend othlond frtrinmaunan t miioth eed. an nc news exclusive go inside the situation room on the night he was killed. it airs on rock centering this wednesday. here's a clip from brian williams' exclusive interviews. >> there you are. >> here i am sitting right here. >> that's an intense look on liptvi me and everyone ishe obmsut yayot remb. at wt iteeli caerembilry putting r ha over r mouth at that point. there's silence at this point inside the room. >> when you look at it -- yeah. >> what does it conjure up inside you? >> we, that's the way i usually look when my husband drags me to an action movie. you know what it conjures up is
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all of the emotions that were running through my and every other person in that smalle crar esencleny roaneo o t cen grp. bi, stheicrealne evy meee it, a tt' wh prompted brian's request to go in and interview all of the principals as to what they were thinking in the room where they were watching in realtime. i'm told that will hillary clinton has said to us and i think to brian that she put her hand up to her face as you saw the president suggesting when the helicopter went down. and than recalls theene tow a ha owha d ts fle
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thheos oeohat heou h b lki prab to one-term presidency at best. this would have been a disaster for him and for the country and so to make that call and then to see what can happen but then to be told by our navy seals it's okay, we planned for these kinds of contingencies and we can still carry out the mission. but he gets credit and i think he should. abreew -ect i tnkeritfor it i n'tht gng t ke aifreein tms ohhe orothiisoi tbe t singular focusf he attention of the american people. it's going to be about the economy. give him credit. it's due. tough call and we're grateful for that tough call, but foreign policy under this circumstances will not be the dispositive
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factor. >> and in fact, one never knows withw is irebl bvehise marits tisin mashi y 00l. gsv t fence. he's under house arrest. fools his captors into lulls them into thinking he is ill and then makes his escape. i am told he is under u.s. protection. i don't know if he is within the compound of the embassy or in a safehouse. but we have him. now, what do we do with him? >> the fact that the administration has not indicated one way or the other whether we r psseim is toa isisdel ba tt utestates or
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venasylum and protection i think is going to put us at very serious odds with the chinese. if the chinese were to come prohe mize, they're going to look weak at a time going through their own transition. >> they're already weakened by this corruption scandal involving bo xky lai and the family that is now been -- the taing aer g sue thise bau couponspevave. dow atheids ond e ternatnaoc is on boxilai it is creating a challenge for them in terms of the legitimacy of the government. they're going to demand more and more accountability and this sort of scandal will be hard to contain and the chinese people are going to demand more from
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isra ssenshlde anerd u. riiconeouor em toak thatcion. i thk it's lose-lose. we'll have to see how the administration is able to hand this in a way that resibs the standard of human rights as far as the united states is concerned and most of the international community. >> bill cohen, thank you so much. >> great to be with you. don't miss that special edition nbier net, tpotil brfi. re lors wre a tos enrsents fhe republican nominee? thisis andremitchell
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>> no i ow athin ny oou a eecngeto aery kely oont. wtinich. newt, there's still time, man. >> in today's politico briefing when newt gingrich drops out of presidential race on wednesday, 355 days and eight zoo visits after he entered it, he'll become the latest romney rival to join him in manyro ppy heen o e ek wharth s rluctan t pu t pg djoinhe bandgon? >> it's a eat question and speaks to the current political
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media environment where every incentive for a gingrich or a santorum is to keep in the public eye. keep getting tv appearances. and sort of draw this out to maximize their own post campaign leverage for you know, athngto mo prtillh asoav mpgneb sohe aso nt t u some leverage t adess th. and that could mean getting a hand from romney. a hand from the national party, as well. and so i think that's what they're thinking about. but you're right. i mean, the days of these guys dropping out and having a press conference or putting out a statement to endorse the nominee wholeheartedly appear to be gone. >> and even rudy giuliani, you know, who wasn't running this time butf in sueorit?
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what has happened to his family, his wife and child? >>u.yi t onndo h pp ch. anth w hpeim a sofhe wre detained. some of the were taken more interrogation. and some were sort of under kind of house arrest. >> what will do we know about his wife and child? because he clearly escaped over the wall. it's just a remarkable story. but what happened to them? because they remained behind. >> cor tir aveur caeewais e wan thr ictoeherd anil lened that his wife and
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their 6-year-old daughter and his mom are still under the control in their village. >> one of the distinctions, bob, is that he served his time for what they charged him with. and so, he is not technically violating the law right now. so under what pretext would they be able to norit. me, hwa - lady rv fr ar ahe mohsnis irinmtnd in the past 16 months or so, he had been basically under extra legal detention or house arrest. and the chinese foreign ministry even declared he has been a free man. and the option for chinese government i think right now is
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ybfo mic trtmt. ee none fnalueio beusheadairndat roughou and other frien and activists that he did not want to leave china. he was not asking for political asylum. has it reached the point there now where he really has to leave, where there's no viable way for him to stay in china? >> there's understand the current political situation, and givena . i tnk w c o fm y
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counatn th ut rsutn t pt ve years. heasotware really what h been really happening in the outside world. i think given the choice for him top continue to stay in china without any guarantee of safety and freedom for him and his family, and for him todallhetto tnkouo chor ing bske. thor o tis chlee,or seetary innshe hds night i, christopher johnson is the frean chair in china 12ids at the center for sfreenlic and international studiesen a former china analyst for the cia. thanks so much. do you agree with that, that there's no viable way for him to remain in china? >> yes, i think that's definitely true. this is a very challenging situation for the u.s. diplomatic folks working this case. it will be very dif heyeb a
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de t mhtut wh e chesonhisss. ty n' wt tbe e arto ofissaty o h coitnsr w he lives going forward. >> absolutely correct. more over, the chinese tend to be very sensitive about these types of issues and to have the united states trying to broker the conditions that the chinese would observe in a person they considered to be a criminal would be highly unlikely. >> well, then, the next step is what kind of exit strategy is there andav the'haedirme i inecseofhe l scda what youen see is them
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acting snarlier toward the outs world. this type of issue will make them very suspicious that perhaps the united states is trying to mess in their success process coming unlater this year. >> is there any way hillary clinton can get this resolved, that kurt ew nuo. erar vry pesng ises sss, nth rera ansyria. ocourse the whol narrative would be be completely dominated about this case as the meetia tries to get a sense of his sort of standing. my sense is that it will be very dangerous for them to come to a solution quickly if they don't do it conguideo
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inl cote. nothe seel f hosryg t drshe prle the robert fkeedy have for juice and human rights developed an online course on bullying. joining mes kerry kennedy, daughter of the late robert f. kennedy and acres and advocate gloria reuben. thank you both so very much. first to you, kerry. what are you trying to accomplish? because this is a new venture for the kennedy center. >> right. theeaeranvebo a rt of our larger th hoo wk togeers a mmity toddsslin d p end to it. >> and you're trying to do it in now 40 states.
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gloria reuben, i met you over the weekend. it's so good to see you. >> great to see you. >> what is your interest? what drives you to be engaged with the center? >> i've been engaged now for a number of years. initially as part of the gala that's held every year and i participated in excerp es th erardar organization th ballots human rights abuses around the globe. when you first start getting involved and you start learning more and more what is actually happening on the grounds, you can't help but want to support and do what you can. kerry's great fun to travel with. >> and the two of you are a powerful combo. the fact is the robert f. kennedy e
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gc heo tki aut llng anyoreeeg iss a hunig younpeople. >> absolutely. in any case of massive human rights violations, we see four different types of people. we see the perpetrator, we see the victim, we see the bystanders and we see the human rights defenders. those who are willing to stand up. so in the case in china, you see mr. chen who is not a bystander. he's a human rights defender. alaer istts . a isuor atoo, oioly nhi orgazaon globally, and to have the message and do what's on the ground you know, as that saying goes it, starts at home. and so clearly, that's one of
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attacked the president if the mission had. gone poorly. plus, at the top of the next hour from the ashes to becoming the tallest bi deh,nerl treener mks a jo leon wel keouhe le. 3450ur states he now passed voter i.d. laws posing new challenges to voter registration efforts. advocates of the laws say they're needed to prevent voting fraud. civil rights groups say it's part of a republican effort to suppress voting registration. joining us is is augusta tas thomas and bill fletcher. welcome both. i have to say, miss thomas, are you extraordinary. let me share with our viewers, if we can get aoo >>n pmb. ha rt lheki j d. >>e s emearscol ani wasn jiohigh.
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itas the david t. howard elementary and junior high school. >> you've been fighting for civil rights laws for years. >> for years. >> what are your objections to these voter i.d. laws? how do you see this as an attempt to stop people from registering? >> i see it being an attack on the poor, the elderly, the veterans, the seniors, the students. all of these folks cannot get voter i.d. c bblto te remb t deatad count an d etr yo coteth rht or wrong, you still couldn't vote. >> that was an extra test. >> yes, it was like a poll tax. >> poll tax. >> i remember they would pull a straw out of a broom and tell you -- ask you how many straws did you have. whether it was right or wrong, they still said you couldn't vote. i remember they used to tell us read a portion of the
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constitution. .f you read it perfectly, eror y cn've. soe'oto bck tohi i mn,e'otoiacto m ow. we'r n going back what we have already had in the last 100 years. >> bill fletcher, how do you respond to those who say that this really is al attempt to stop voter fraud? i'm just asking you to play devil's advocate. >> no, no, it's a good question. the fundamental problem is that there's not evidence of any kind of significant voter fraud. and so what's happening here is that a problem is being manufactured, but let's just say w es t acot r shtengheumray r rl tg? hodoha aou f anngotrestti rule howoes th account for ending sunday voting? it doesn't.
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you see, all this is being hidden behind this charade of people allegedly being able to vote improperly. so it's a facade. >> how difficult would it be for the elderly, and this is also directed at students, to have driver's licenses in the states in which they're voting when ttat don't have carst. sterth dtrtf comb. rit. udentsit is just like veterans. they have cards that they go to the hospital with and got their name, with their picture on it. but it doesn't have their address so they can't use that card. the students can't use their student i.d. cards. a lot of them don't even drive. how are they going to get? the birth certificates. i understand in maryland there
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maweto g ecli. thuredin tir div's cee. th said, well, your birth certificate doesn't match your driver's license. there's no way your birth certificate matches your driver's license. so they just really trying to keep us from voting. >> i don't think is going to keep you from voting. >> when is your birthday? >> september 17th, 1922. >> i'm going to send you a card. thank you very much. thank you for being with us today. you are really an inspiration. >> thank you very much. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] with charmin ultra soft, you can get that cushiony feeling while still using less. and es spldelici ll of ium min r those of us with lactose intance... lactaid® mil
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nirsy d ou seemr , 201,bo af e ripples it from impact politics. this is one that will not go unnoticed. clearly, rudolph giuliani is so closely associated to those attacks and new york's response to them. >> thank you so much. that does it for us for this edition of abt ine tist an aanufngn jnshe ciontose tkedown of bin laden in a new campaign ad.
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