two things are these traumatic brain injuries. we've seen so much in damage that the i.e.d.s have done, but also, post-traumatic stress. >> this is sort of the modern definition of an age old problem. shell shocked and battle fatigue and kind of know more. mortar artillery and keeping them in combat too long. mostly, they recover in a year. it's an adjustment problem. but it's combined frequently with alcohol abuse. with marital problems, with irritability, so it's a challenge, but much of it gets taken care of by the returning soldiers' family or friends, but some of it requires clinical intervention. >> there's another story in the

news today. i think i saw it in the "washington post." it's about homelessness and veterans. they've also made a very concerted effort at the veterans administration and many not for profit groups to help returning veterans find jobs. for many of them, the lack of jobs has led them to homelessness. but the number of, while they're making strides with the veterans population overall, the number of homeless women veterans is up significantly. what do you make of that, general? >> obviously, it's the first war in america's history will women have not only played a vital role, but they're also in combat. we've got hundreds of women who have been severely injured or killed. some are mothers or grandmothers. they return home and in some cases, have a safety net. rick shinseki has made it his top priority to get every veteran off the streets before he leaves office and there have

been a lot of very creative attempts to do that. if you can't get them off the street, nothing else works. by the way, a huge number of those homeless veterans, the overwhelming majority are the vietnam generation. as they get older, lot of these problems surface. family members perhaps aren't there. we need to take care of these veterans and keep them off the streets. >> general, you're going to be with us throughout the morning and we are waiting for the president to arrive this at arlington national cemetery. we will be back with you. in the meantime, we want to get you caught up on one more big story we've been following and that is beryl that has been downgraded to a tropical depression. it may be weakening, although it is still bringing heavy rain. the storm made land fall near jacksonville beach, florida last night. jim cantore joins me now from st. simons island, georgia.

few people walking on the beach. some winds going there and good surf. how you doing, jim? >> hey, chris. you know you're going to get your money's worth on memorial day weekend and the fact is, we're now bringing this thing onshore, so we're in between rain bands from time to time. about an hour ago, we were getting soaked. if we look down to our south, we can see more rain and now, there's actually a slight tornado threat on the coastline as these bands come in and meet up with the friction. we've had a couple of warnings out for the jacksonville area in addition to the landfall. again, coming in about 12:10 last night, i think that really helped us. i think a lot of people were off the roads. off the beaches. that kept a lot of people out of all the debris and blowing wind and everything and that's really worth its weight in gold to be honest with you. we want to get people inside and that's going to be safe enough. but like yesterday, like the day before yesterday and like again

today, a look at the wave action. whether it be daytona beach or the georgia coastline, the onshore wind is going to keep those waves up. the big difference today is it's much cooler. we've got pretty much a strong breeze coming in off the ocean, which is right around 79 or 80 degrees. first, it's coming offshore, where it's in the low to mid-90s, so it's not going to be as tempting to head into the water. we've urged people not to get into the water. i was a little surprised yesterday they didn't close down the beaches. they said we just don't have the manpower to do that. some trees and powerlines -- >> just wanted to ask you what's going on north of where you are. i know there have been concerns potentially about flooding, heavy rains today. how long is this system, how long is its effects going to be around? >> it's kind of interesting. i think that this thing would park itself with rain over one spot.

we're going to see isolated flooding. this is one of the driest parts of the country. northern florida, georgia, south carolina, you've been talking about it, too. all these wildfires and swamp fires we've been having. this is great news for some of these areas, but the heaviest rain is still going to be close to the coast. it's not going to alleviate the drought, but it is going to help a lot of people. everybody's not going to flood out. it will be in spots. but the storm as you mentioned, coming in, making that turn and then heading back out possibly just to the north of us tomorrow. and then out into wednesday, it may become a tropical storm again, but the point is, it's going to be a rainmaker and for a lot of people. that's a great thing. >> jim cantore on the beach for us. thank you so much, jim. >> we want to go back to arlington national cemetery and again, we are waiting for that wreath laying ceremony at the tomb of the unknowns. there you see the crowd has gathered and we have seen some of the soldiers representing the various armed services.

obviously at the tomb of the unknowns, that soldier has never been officially named. there are actually six wreaths. you see three on that one side. there are three on each side. they represent the six major campaigns of world war i and again on the back of the tomb, which is facing the amphitheater, here rests in honored glory an american soldier known but to god. there you see the wreath that will be laid by the president today and mrs. obama is with him as well. what do we expect to see? >> it's a very moving moment. we're now behind the amphitheater, where the tomb of the unknown soldiers are. might add, remember the vietnam unknown soldier was finally identified, so he was -- turned up an air force fighter pilot that had been killed in vietnam.

but others remain in perpetuity, symbolic of those missing in action. the commander general, the military district of washington is now accompanying the president into position if front of that tomb. there will be taps will be played as terribly moving e vocktive sound, which is traditional to remember our war dead. ♪ ♪

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>> let me bring the general in as the president heads over to the other side and where he will make his remarks. also remarks by the chairman of the giant chiefs, by secretary panetta, who you saw standing there behind the president. what's important about hearing from the commander in chief on this memorial day, general? >> it's a huge responsibility. the title's misused. we say the president has six roles under the constitution, one of which is commander in chief of the armed forces, so unlike many democracies who use political entities, he actually is the commander. the only other person he gives orders is the secretary of defense. so, the president, when he

appears in front of the military, is the ultimate commander. and it's very important that he take care of them. that they trust him. that they know who he is. this president by the way, i might add, i think most of us, believe has done a very credible job in both foreign policy and security policy. i think he's much admired politically by combat troops as their leader. so this is a big day for unlike veterans day, this is a day in which we remember the sacrifice and hundreds of thousands of these young men and women over the last 200 years have stepped forward and been willing to give their lives to help protect this democracy of laws. >> and it is important that we keep the focus on this. you brought up though the support of the combat troops in your belief that they do believe he's done a good job and so i will ask you just this one

single political question because there was a new poll out today by gallup because it is memorial day. they found that 58% of veterans, now, we're not talking about active duty. veterans, support romney compared to 34% behind barack obama. veterans did support john mccain. is there any surprise in those numbers for you? >> hard for me to sort it out. you know, it's an intensely political thing. the country's very divided. there is tremendous opposition, a continued engagement in afghanistan. so, this is, we're probably reflecting other issues as much as foreign policy, national security policy. the economy. you know, the jobless rate. concerns about deficits. i would argue that's probably more like it. i think when the president appears and the 75th ranger regiment or aboard a navy ship, there's uniformly, i believe, a

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and women in uniform. he was very charming, lovely. terrific family. tell us a little bit about the current and i believe he's the 18th chairman of the joint chiefs. >> well, he's a remarkable guy. he spent like many of his generation, you know, when we were watching earlier with the president laying a wreath. the two-star general standing next to the president, i was counting his overseas combat stripes on his right sleeve. i think i saw six of them meaning three years in combat. marty dempsey has been in combat almost continuously since 2001. commanded the division, did an extremely good job during the sadr uprising in background. he's got, went back again and did the, tried to put together the iraqi armed forces and police. very experienced guy. he was the acting sencon commander for a good bit of time and now, he's the chairman.

he's a delightful person. almost unusually capable of interpersonal skills. he's an irish tenor, a very attractive person. i think they have formed an unusually close relationship. >> different than you've observed in previous administrations? >> well, admiral mike mullen was extremely close tht previous administration with the bush team. certainly colin powell was a trusted figure as a chairman by both bush 41 and then clinton. we've had a number of remarkable people as the chairman and marty dempsey continues in that line. however, the difference is this guy's been out there on the front fighting these wars. literally, since he was a colonel. a lot of these guys start to

remember peace keeping operations in the balkans. >> again, following general dempsey will be the secretary of defense, leon panetta. your observations. >> i've known leon for a long time. he was the white house chief of staff. i worked with a clinton administration and the omb director. he's an absolute world class public servant. an army veteran himself. and probably has less enemies than anyone i every met in public life. so he's able to provide reasonable arguments in the political spirit. he's going to be a great help in defense because of that. of course, he was the cia director prior to this job. >> let's join this ceremony live. ♪

♪ gave proof through the night that our flag was still there ♪ ♪ oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave ♪ ♪ ore the land of the free and the home of the brave ♪ >> please be seated. ladies and gentlemen, general dempsey.

>> mr. president, secretary panetta, secretary shinseki, members of congress, distinguished guests, veterans, fellow americans and most especially, the families of our missing and fallen warriors, welcome. today as we lay wreaths and plant flags, it's worth noting that memorial day was originally known as decoration day. we decorate with vibrant colors to express the depth of our collective gratitude and our pride in those risking everything for our country. but despite the secelebrate mus the family that will not come home. this is evident in a piece by

henry wadsworth longfellow. one of his poems speaks to the experience of any family that has sent a son or daughter off to war. while relieve ed that his son returned from the civil war, he was moved that many, many more dide iine ining lines, he frame an eternal relationship between falling service members and the nation they protect. he says your silent tents of green we deck with fragrant flowers, yours have the suffering been, the memory shall be ours. 130 years after writing those words, longfellow still has it right. the memory is ours. on memorial day, we honor that memory in heartfelt ceremonies across this land. the pageantry is a manifestation of the sacred bond of trust.

but what really counts is how we nurture that bond with those still here. and how we turn that memory into action. today, we stand behind families that will never be whole again. but we must continue to stand with them every day. supporting them in the ways they need it most. particularly as they transition back into their home communities shows that we do not just think of them, but that we really do remember. and those communities have the most important role to play in this effort. every national level department and every agency represented here today is committed to making education, medical care and employment opportunities accessible to the military family. but the va can't drop the kids off at soccer and the dod can't help you study for your final college exam. nobody looks out for you like friends, your neighbors or our family. and when you think about it like

th that, it's no surprise that memorial day began at the community level as a local observance years before it was recognized nationally. so it starts with us. preserving the bonds of trust is something that demands our constant attention and something we're just going to have to keep delivering. and we will. because the memory is ours. all of ours. we will remember. may god bless our fallen, our missing and their families and may god bless america. thank you. >> ladies and gentlemen, listen now as master sergeant michael ford, sergeant first class le ann hinton and staff sergeant andre mccray perform the last full measure of devotion. ♪

♪ in the long and honored history of america ♪ ♪ there are names that shine like beacons in the night ♪ ♪ the patriots whose vision gave us meaning who kept the land for freedom burning bright ♪ ♪ in the long and honored history of america there are those who paid the last final price ♪ ♪ who were called upon by chance

for desperate circumstance to make the ultimate sacrifice ♪ ♪ the grateful nation bows its head in sorrow and in thanks for guaranteeing our tomorrow ♪ ♪ the last full measure of devotion that's what they gave to the cause ♪ ♪ the last full measure of devotion and though they cannot hear our applause ♪

♪ we honor them forever and keep alive their story pay tribute to their lives and give them all the glory ♪ ♪ the last full measure of devotion beyond the call of duty was their deeds ♪ ♪ the last full measure of devotion they gave themselves -- >> it is half past the hour and for those just joining us on msnbc, we are giving you live coverage of a ceremony at arlington national cemetery, a little earlier, we saw the president at the tomb of the unknowns laying the wreath. it is a tradition on memorial day for the commander in chief to do so. and he went from there across to the amphitheater.

we heard from the chairman of the joint chiefs, general de dempsey. we will be hearing from leon panetta, the secretary of defense, and then from the president of the united states. we will continue our live coverage. ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, secretary panetta. >> ladies and gentlemen, distinguished guests, veterans,

active service members, mrs. obama, mr. president. it is an honor to be able to be here today with all of you. to observe memorial day on this most sacred ground for our military and our nation. arlington and all the men and women who rest here are a constant reminder that freedom is not free. today, we join all americans in coming together to pay tribute to all those brave americans who have fought and who died for our country. we honor and remember america's heroes. our patriots who have made the

ultimate sacrifice in defense of our liberties. as we have for the past ten memorial days, today, we still gather at a time of war. today, the american people remember the more than 6,400 heroes who have died in defense of our nation. since september 11th. and today, we will also pay tribute to the 58,000 soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines and coast guards men who died in vietnam on this the 50th anniversary of that war. they and their families have paid a price beyond measure.

but because of their sacrifice, we are free and we are secure. we are safer because they were willing to put their lives on the line. all of the millions of brave patriots who have stepped forward to serve this nation in time of war deserve our gratitude, our respect and our enduring support because they have kept our nation safe and just as we reflect on their service and their sacrifice, we honor those american families for whom this day is most difficult. the mothers and fathers and husbands and wives and sons and daughters. who have lost a child, a spouse

or a parent. since becoming secretary of defense, like the president, i have written hundreds of letters of kocondolences to those families. there are no words that can heal. no sentences that can lessen the loss, but in the struggle to find the right words, i tell them that their loved one died for all they loved. for their spouse. for their children. for their family. for their country. to ensure the survival of our way of life and our nation. and the memory of their loved ones will be in our hearts every day for the rest of our lives. they will never be forgotten.

they are forever heroes. we must resolve to do all we can for these families. it takes all of us, every citizen, every community, every business. to care for those families. that's why the consolation and support provided by organizations like the tragedy assistance program for survivors and others are so important. and we hopefully emerge from a decade of war. we must renew our pledge on this memorial day to do all we can to ensure that the sacrifices of our service members and their families are honored. and that those who fell in battle are remembered and never forgotten. as americans, that must be our

sacred charge and our sacred mission. not just on memorial day, but every day. they fought and they died for us. and we must now fight to protect the memory of their sacrifice forever. it is now my privilege and my honor to introduce someone who has taken this charge to his heart. i've been honored to work closely with president obama. as director of the cia and now, as secretary of defense and to have the opportunity to see how seriously he takes his responsibleties as commander in chief. he has no higher priority than to protect this country and to protect those who protect all of us. ladies and gentlemen, president of the united states.

>> thank you. thank you very much. please be seated. good morning, everybody. thank you, secretary panetta, for your introduction and for your incredible service to our country. to general dempsey. major general remmington, catherine condin, chaplain barry, all of you who are here today. active duty, veterans, family and friends of the fallen. thank you for allowing me to privilege of joining you in this sacred place to commemorate memorial day. these 600 acres are home to americans from every part of the country who gave their lives in

every corner of the globe. when a revolution needed to be waged and a union needed to be saved they left their homes and took up arms for the sake of an idea. from the jungles of vietnam to the mountains of afghanistan, they stepped forward and answered the call. they fought for a home they might never return to. they fought for buddies they would never forget. while their stories may be separated by hundreds of years and thousands of miles, they rest here, together, side by side. row by row. because each of them loved this country. and everything it stands for, more than life itself.

today, we come together as americans to pray, to reflect and to remember these heroes. but tomorrow, this hallowed place will once again belong to a smaller group of visitors who make their way through the gates and across these fields in the heat and in the cold, in the rain and the snow. following well worn pad to a certain spot and kneeling in front of a familiar headstone. you are the family and friends of the fallen. parents and children, husbands and wives. brothers and sisters. by birth and by sacrifice. you, too, leave a piece of your hearts beneath these trees. you, too, call this sanctuary home. together, your footsteps trace the path of our history.

and this memorial day, we mark another milestone. for the first time in nine year, americans are not fighting and dying in remark. we are winding down the war in afghanistan and our troops will continue to come home. after a decade under the dark cloud of war, we can see the light of a new day on the horizon. especially for those who have lost a loved one. this chapter will remain open long after the guns have fallen silent. today, with the war in iraq

finally over, it is fitting to pay tribute to the sacrifice that spans that conflict. in march of 2003, on the first day of the invasion, one of our helicopters crashed near the iraqi border with kuwait. on it were four marines. major jay alban, captain ryan bopray, corporal brian kennedy and staff sergeant kendall waters bay. together, they became the first american casualties of the iraq war. their families and friends ba barely had time to register the beginning of the conflict before being forced to confront its awesome costs. eight years, seven months and 25 days later, army specialist david hickman was on patrol in

baghdad. that's when his vehicle struck a roadside bomb. he became the last of nearly 4,500 american patriots to give their lives in iraq. a month after david's death, the days before the last american troops including david were scheduled to come home, i met with the hickman family at ft. bragg. right now, the hickmans are beginning a very difficult journey that so many of your families have traveled before. a journey that even more families will take in the months and years ahead. to the families here today, i repeat what i said to the hickmans. i cannot begin to fully understand your loss. as a father, i cannot begin to imagine what it's like to hear that knock on the door and learn that your worst fears have come true. but as commander in chief, i can

tell you that sending our troops into harm's way is the most wrenching decision that i have to make. i can promise you i will never do so unless it's absolutely necessary. and that when we do, we must give our troops a clear mission and the full support of a grateful nation. and as a country -- and as a country, all of us can and should ask ourselves how we can help you shoulder a burden that nobody should have to bear alone. as we honor your mothers and fathers, your sons and daughters, we have given -- who have given their last full measure of devotion to this country, we have to ask ourselves how can we support you and your families and give you some strength.

one thing we can do is remember these heroes as you remember them. not just as a rank or a number or a name on a headstone. but as americans often far too young, who were guided by deep and abiding love for their families, for each other and for this country. we can remember jay alban, the pilot, who met his wife on an aircraft carrier and told his mother before shipping out, if anything happens to me, just know i'm doing what i love. we can remember ryan, the former track star, running the lead off leg. always the first one into action. who quit his job as an accountant and joined the marines because he wanted to do something more meaningful with his life. we can remember brian kennedy, who told his father two days

before his helicopter went down, that the marines he served with were some of the best men he'd ever dealt with and they would be his friends forever. we can remember kendall, a proud father, who was described by a fellow service member as the light in a very dark world. and we can remember david hickman, a freshman in high school when the war began. a fitness fanatic who jokingly called himself zeus. a loyal friend with an infectious laugh. we can remember them and we can meet our obligations to those who did come home. and their families who are in the midst of a different, but very real battle of their own. to all our men and women in uniform who are here today, know this. the patriots who rest beneath these hills were fighting for many things. for their families, for their

flag. but above all, they were fighting for you. as long as i'm president, we will make sure you and your loved ones receive the benefits you've earned and the respect you deserve. america will be there for you. and finally, for all of you who carry a special weight on your heart, we can strive to be a nation worthy of your sacrifice. a nation that is fair and equal. peaceful and free. a nation that weighs the cost of every human life. a nation where all of us meet our obligations to one another and to this country that we love. that's what we can do. as president, i have no higher honor and no greater responsibility than serving as commander in chief of the greatest military the world has ever known.

and on days like this, i take pride in the fact that this country has always been home to men and women willing to give of themselves until they have nothing more to give. i take heart in the strength and resolve of those who still serve. both here at home and around the world. and i know that we must always strive to be worthy of your sacrifice. god bless you. god bless the fallen. god bless our men and women in uniform and may god bless the united states of america.

>> ladies and gentlemen, please stand for the playing of taps and the benediction. ♪ ♪ ♪

>> receive this benediction. go into the world to preserve peace. courageous. pursue excellence in all things and cling to that which is good. resist evil always, strengthen the fainthearted, lift up the oppressed, defend the helpless. honor god. fear no man. above all, love and serve the lord. amen. >> ladies and gentlemen, please remain in place until the president has departed and the colors are retired. >> and so the president of the united states in what has become a memorial day tradition at

arlington national cemetery, first laying a wreath at the tomb of the unknowns and then talking about what we can strive to do to make ourselves worthy of the sacrifice that has been given by so many who have served this country and did not come home. in a new sense, obviously, the first time in nine years that he comes or any president comes to speak, and there are not troops who are dying in iraq. the united states official little out of a combat role in that country. general barry mccaffrey, this is a day that for many americans has become a day that's simply a day off. it's a day for barbecue, and it's a day for family. and there's certainly nothing wrong with that, but there are small towns and cities across america where there are parades to honor those who have gone before us. there are many ceremonies in cemeteries, much smaller but

also very personal to many people. i would just like your closing thoughts on this memorial day. >> well, i always remind people the armed forces, u.s. armed forces are the most respected institution in american society of any poll we run. we've also got to remind ourselves that some 9% of the country are the actually military veterans and they've got families and communities that care for them. so this is a very special day. i think it's appropriate that the president, secretary panetta, general dempsey and others publicly honor the fallen. at 1:00, the president will down at the street nam memorial to honor the 58,000 killed in vietnam. it's a wonderful demonstration of support for our forces. >> on the 50th anniversary of the start of the vietnam war, it's been an honor as always, barry mccaffrey, 0 to have you with us. we'll take a quick break and be back with more here on msnbc.

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in just about two hours, president obama will visit the street nam veterans merpal to mark the 50th anniversary of the start of that war. kristen welker is at the white house with a preview. good morning. >> good morning to you, chris. the president will be joined by the first lady as well as vice president joe biden. they will pay tribute to the 58,000 american who's did not return from that war. as you say, they will be marking the 50th anniversary of the start that have war. the president issuing a proclamation also saying that the federal government, state and local governments will pay tribute to those who be the in vietnam for the next 13 years through 2025 to mark the end of the vietnam war. in the meantime, on the other coast, mitt romney will be attending a memorial day event senator john mccain. both men really putting to ticks on the back burner today as they mark this national holiday and those who have be the our country and made the ultimate sacrifice. >> kristen welker at the white

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