>> ever perform in front of a big crowd like this. >> i never performed in front of anybody. >> you must have taken voice training? >> self taught. >> prau in your room? >> amazing. good day. live from washington, in the daily fix, wisconsin governor scott walker kept his job last night to organize labor and state democrats capping a battle that we gone wa a year ago. contributor and managing editor of post politics.com and the milwaukee sentinel bureau chief. tharchgs both to you. first to you. just what happened out there last night? >> after all the money and all the drama and all the pain, it was a replay of the 2010

election. a bigger turn out. more voters. they voted the same way. walker held on to his winning coalition. you didn't see them moving around and democrats were never able to get over the hump of persuading voters outside the base that that circumstances were so extraordinary. >> when we look at the exit polls, it does seem that people didn't like the idea of having to do this again and taking something away that a nature of recall is unless it's extraordinary circumstances or one that they view as being extraordinary, they plus money, money, money. >> for felt extra outside the realm of the normal course of events which is why a lot of

democrats argued against. this is a non-traditional. and the candidate that had the most money and a unified party behind it won. we should n be surprised at that fact. they easily outdistanced and talked to the exit poll about whom they would prefer in november. >> the exit poll said that 17% of the 53% of the electorate vote for walker favored obama for president. 9% or 10% are obama walker supporters. that could change, but it's a reminder that even in a state like wisconsin there is still a middle and the governor more than held his own with that. if you look at his support, they were not all rapid republicans, but people who had a favorable

view of employee unions and not all of whoom whom favored the changes. they were not ready to take the step. >> the whole role of outside money. the republicans have been saying there is a lot of outside union money that comes in here. the bottom line is that walker outspent the democrats 7-1? >> we think about 30 million in outside spending, the bulk of which was by conservative crews. scott walker spent about 30 $1/2 million. you are not going to win most of that by that case. money was talking about governor meg whitman. but, money does matter, particularly i do think this gets under estimated. scott walker ran a good campaign. he is a good candidate whether you agree or disagree, he was

laser wide focused on the campaign and raised the money he could that was a lot. he had a good message and went from being employee unions and the ads are about the economy. whether they are getting better or worse. >> thank you so much. craig gilbert, thanks for joining us. does the victory many that they have a shot at becoming the first republican to win since 1984. "the washington post" chief correspondent and author of the take. hey, dan. what do you think the larger message is. for the republicans and the labor movement. >> the republicans are going to take a boost out of what happened yesterday. fairly or unfairly. i think they will look to a couple of different things they were able to do in wisconsin and see if they can translate that or replicate it in the fall.

romney will have a chance of being competitive. the role of money. if there is one thing that worries the obama campaign beyond the economy, it's the amount of outside spending that republican groups will be doing in the fall against president obama. we saw the power of that in wisconsin and if that happens again, that will be a boost. on the flip side of that, there is another element to this. scott walkner wisconsin is a real hero. i was in a republican event just before the presidential primary in april before romney and walker were there. there was no doubt who was the real popular politician there. people who were republicans and conservatives see scott walker as a rock star. in part because they see him as a convict politician. that's not the way governor romney has been seen. maybe walker can translate some of that to governor romney in

the fall, but that's the difference going forward. this was not a referendum on the president yesterday. we will see that in the fall and at this point you would still have to say that president obama pulled some edge. but the republicans given when they were able to do in terms of turning out voters. they can put this state into play if they can get other elements put together. they turned out bigger than in 2010 in the first election against scott walker. they were not able to convince a higher percentage to vote. they were identical to what happened in 2010. if there was a break down, it was an ability to vote against

walker as opposed to turning out voters. . >> this is not the crystal ball that predicts the future. this is a unique circumstance. it's a recall election only done price in history. our game will continue on. it will not end on election day. >> they can say they were able to take on the governor there. it's undeniable they will have a harder time persuading members of congress. they were losing alttut. >> they have continued to lose members and the unions will be more on the defensive not just as a result of what governor walker has done, but what the republicans and some democrats have done around the country to try to get the budgets into

balance. they are in a defensive posture. some people here take the victory they got on the collective bargaining bill and stopped there and waited until the fall. they may have made a mistake in doing the recall. >> i wanted to ask you about bill clinton because he was explaining through his spokesman what he meant to say and saying basically they are claiming what he apparently said or alluded to with maria bartiromo was not what he meant to say. let's play a little bit of the tape. >> i don't have any problem with extending all of it now. including the current spending levels. they are still low. i think they look high because of the recession. the real issue is not whether they should be extended for another few months. the real issue is whether the

price the republican house will put on is permanent. i think that's an error. >> with the clinton statement, he said he always said it should be a temporary extension, but the bottom line is he did refer to a recession that is clearly not what the white house people wants people to think about and he did talk about extending the tax cuts. it's not the message. >> it's clearly not. the fact that they had to put out a statement or felt compelled to clean it up suggests that they knew they walked in a different direction than they should have. there is a legitimate argument which is, is the economy in strong enough shape at this point to let the tax cuts expire. at the end of 2010, president obama made the argument that he was willing to extend all of them temporarily because the economy was weak.

where will the economy be at the end of the year. that was not inconsistent with the fund-raise they're he appeared with president obama in new york on monday night. austerity is not what the policy ought to be because the economy is still fragile. the obama administration position is they don't want to extend the tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. there is a digregz between president obama and former president clinton. no question about it. >> and republicans are having a field day with it. they have been all over the floor and the airwaves trying to make the point because they are taking pleasure in trying to show that they were trying to drive a wedge between the two. >> which is no surprise of course. they are going to jump on that. it will be left to president clinton to now figure out a way to kind of double back and make the argument in the end that what president obama is doing

economically is superior to what governor romney would do. we will hear more of that in the coming days. >> we can hear more as to what they would do. thank you very much. thanks for joining us today. up next, former mississippi governor and republican party chair, haley barbour reacting. the fair pay fight for women. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. emily's just starting out... and on a budget. like a ramen noodle- every-night budget. she thought allstate car insurance was out of her reach. until she heard about the value plan. see how much you could save with allstate. are you in good hands?

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extending all of the current tax rates for at least a year is really important. even bill clinton came out for it before he was against it. >> worry bill clinton's remarks and larry summers's remarks, it's obvious that the economy needs the certainty of the extension of the current tax

rates. >> to quote former president clinton, they will probably have to put everything off until early next year. >> obviously president bill clinton gets it. >> republicans clearly playing a little mischief with former president bill clinton with the taxes. what lessons can we draw from this and the wisconsin results for all things political? we are joined by haley barber, former governor of mississippi and national chairman. scott walk really had a good night. a better night than bill clinton. >> here a great night and republican his a great night because of it. it was a bad night for the public employee unions and the democrats and the lift. it can't. this is a very positive thing. they performed very well in wisconsin. a really good turn out and hard work on the ground. walker got about 200,000 more

votes than he got when he was elected. >> are there other governors and statehouses who are now going to try to roll back bargaining rights for public employees. are there lessons from ohio that said it was a bridge too far and he shouldn't have handle things as he did? >> i should take issue with something you said with collective bargaining rights. there is no right to collective bargaining. federal employees don't have to correct it. president obama doesn't take the position that the federal employees should have collective bargaining. >> they are in the contracts and observed. >> there is no right to collective bargaining. that's just a fact. will others go forward? i think they will. i think they will be smart to do what you just said. be cautious and look at the ohio

and indiana and wisconsin and make the decision based on your own state. we don't have collective bargaining and very importantly, we don't collect union dues for the unions. according to the exit poll, 37% voted for walker. this may be the tip of the private sector labor unions. the historical unions saying we are not going to go out and vote for the public employees to take our money and take our property taxes. >> you don't buy the exit polls that showed a strong reverence for barack obama over mitt romney? >> i just noticed that the exit poll was wrong by seven points and the out come of the election happened yesterday. the exit poll said five months from now, obama will move

wisconsin back coincidentically that same seven points. they make the correction and the exit poll shows wisconsin is a 50-50 race. wisconsin is a race that will happen in five months. a lot will go under the bridge. >> one of the things is there is going to be a running mate. right now what do you think mitt romney ought to do? do no warm and follow the hippocratic oath and choose someone like rob portman who wasn't hurt him and some would argue by bringing up george w. bush. someone try and test and has been in government. should he go for a younger marco rubio and somebody younger and ethnic. >> he seems to be deliberate and thoughtful as he ought to be. what i want to accomplish with

this choice. do we want to do no harm and want somebody who would give us a state, a big important state like ohio that we may not otherwise carry? actually when you first mentioned rob portman, that's what i thought you would say. he doesn't need to choose somebody to unite the party. he can do like kennedy did with johnson who gave him texas. somebody gives him pennsylvania and ohio. i don't think you will try to reshuffle the deck. he doesn't need that. this is a dead heat election. >> he doesn't need to energize or excite the base? >> doesn't appear to. we all know why. barack obama is the great uniter of republicans and conservatives. romney -- >> who would you have on your short list? >> would make the threshold decision. what do i want to accomplish? >> assuming he wants to do no

harm and pick a big state, pick up a state. >> the people that tom corbett did in pennsylvania would scott walker give you wisconsin and rod portman give you ohio and would rubio or mc donald give you florida or virginia and you have to win those anyway. they are real things that have to be thought about. that's why i think it's reassuring to republicans that they are going about this in a very thoughtful deliberate manner and don't feel any pressure while the news media thinks it's today's story, it's a later decision. >> would you put scott walker on the list now? >> would put everybody on the list until i decide what i am trying to accomplish. why would i rule anybody out? >> including yourself. >> i had my last go. >> thank you very much. enjoying the private sector.

senate democrats forced i vote with pay equity for women and blocked along party lines. they hurt small businesses and only a ploy to attract women voters. joining me now is jackie spear of california. thanks for being with us. what about that vote. it's history in the house. no way that it's going to get through in the house. was this just all another example of one party or the other trying to embarrass the opponents going into an election year? >> this is a real legitimate issue. women still make 77 cents for every dollar earned by a man. if you are doing equal work, you should get equal pay and not be retaliated against. if you look the pay records and the whole issue of small businesses, there is an exemption for businesses with revenues of $500,000 or less. the real issue here, do women

count? do we deserve to be treated the same way as men for doing the same job? it's real money. for a woman who is not getting wade the same money as a man doing the same job over the course of her lifetime, that's a loss of $700,000. that's the low side of income. raising families, that's big money. i think that's one of the anti-discrimination issues we have been kicking around for years even though president kennedy was the first to support equal pay for equal work back in the early 1960s. this would really provide the kind of teeth in the legislation that would make sure that women just get treated the same as men for the same work. >> where do you go from here now that it's defeated in the senate. >> it will probably be raised again on our side as an amend

tomt a piece of legislation. it doesn't go away. women deserve to be fairly treated and to make the same amount of money doing the same work in the same job category as men in the same company. we will continue to fight this fight. >> jackie spear, thanks so much. good to see you and thanks for being here. we have hopes for getting something done in congress this summer? think again. here next on "andrea mitchell reports." whoa! nobody insures more bikes than progressive. do you guys ride? well... no. sometimes, yeah. yes. well, if you know anybody else who also rides, send them here -- we got great coverage.

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they think they are far too far apart from president obama on taxes on entitlements and spending. these are very real issues. taxes will go up on every american. they will pass bills and as we have seen over the last day or two, the president does not seem willing to raise taxes on the highest earners. they are going to do some stuff, but nothing that is going to be law and they decide these things get in the lame luck powers. mitt romney said he didn't want anything on the lame duck to president obama. >> it becomes a serious issue. it's a very sticky issue and they have to figure out a way to deal with the taxes and across the board defense cuts at the end of the year going into effect for the military. that's a huge thing for contractors and businesses and

the military. they will have to find a way if mitt romney wins, the likelihood is they do something temporary, but this is not going to be easy. both jane boehner and eric kantor said there is not a lot of time to get it done. it's unclear how the losing party on capitol hill will react. there is a lot of balls up in the air and we are fooich months to the election. it'sy in clearer. the mystery thickens. >> thanks so much. you didn't cheer us up, but thanks for the information. mitt romney is calling for armying the rebels, but who are they? the former ambassador is and the party chair send me your thoughts is facebook and twitter. wake up!

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thank you very much and welcome. let's talk about the syrian rebels. there is a lot of talk about how they might be different from the libyan rebels who are also initially not well organized and eventually armed. what do you think should be done? should we arm the rebels and who are they? >> they are correct to be careful. as far as i know they are giving this time they're giving nonlethal uniication and intelligence and the like and leaveing it to the saudis and some others perhaps to give you everything from the muslim brotherhood to more recently elements that are very similar to that.

>> in afghanistan in the 80s and the growth of osama bin laden. what do you say to john mccain and lindsay graham and now to mitt romney who said arm the rebels and we can't sit back and let this continue. >> i would say reed henry kissinger. my apologies to his last name. both have spoken out and written of late on things such as national interests. balance of power and not acting a great power should act emotionally and some jump in. we condemned it and there is still a lot of diplomacy to be done and the president will meet with president putin of russia. russia has a very, very important role and have influence. it's a member of the security council. it blocked tougher measures at

the u.s. and that they would like to take. >> russia is flatly rejecting this and they should involve iran. should iran talk on the table in. >> it's something that i didn't hear come up until today. there was a column in the "washington post" by a columnist indicating that kofi annan put forward this idea and now maybe not so coincidentally the foreign minster is suggesting the same thing. iran, turkey, saudi arabia, the five permanent members of the council and maybe the eu are touted as a contact group. they want to get away from the friends of western coninstruct and move things from their standpoint to a more balanced approach. >> what are about iran?

the other argument is iran is helping the regime so they don't have clean hands. how can you bring them in at the table to negotiate? i'm not sure i would be in favor. on the other hand they are playing a role and they have been involveda the other times in talks such as in afghanistan. it's not unprecedented. >> only today secretary geithner had a group here in washington with the syrian interest groups talking about tougher sanctions and hillary clinton is in istanbul, but so far there doesn't seem to be a solution. always good to talk to you. republicans are celebrating. the chairman of the committee, thanks for joining us. you predicted it and they delivered. scott walker proved that a lot of money and good organization. they can win elections.

>> that's right and you saw in wisconsin team taking care of home first. i think we can gain a lot of insight from what we did there in wisconsin. we had a ground game that did outperform the democrats out there. they love to tout the ground game, but they reached out to voters and a better job to voters. a better candidate on the ballot as well. it told you in states like wisconsin, it's typical and in spite of controversy, people appreciate leaders in today's political world. no doubt about it. whether you agree or not, scott walker is a leader and made tough decisions and people generally reward folks like scott walker who make promises and keep them even when it's tough to keep them. >> does it concern you that the exit polls showed that president obama outdistanced mitt romney

among the same voters that supported scott walker. >> those same polls said there was going to be a close night and it was not a close race. let's assume that the exit polls as they relate to obama are accurate. you can't really poll today how people are going to feel in a couple of months. i talked to quite a few people in wisconsin. some democrats as well. we are really disappointed in this president for not coming into wisconsin. he was in chicago and minnesota. he didn't gift a finger for them and either did the democratic party. they feel put off and to democrats in wisconsin, for us, we have two very sophisticated parties up there. they wanted to prove that what happened in wisconsin in 2010 was a fluke. this was there time.

i have a feeling that the activists in wisconsin will say hey, go back to illinois. you were not here for us and we will not be here for you. that's a serious problem for the president. >> that may be wishful thinking on the republican part because he avoided being touched by the defeat. he can separate himself for something that was not going to be the winner. now republicans to a person voted against the equal pay bill. is that smart politics. >> i think it's a matter of principal. i think those are things you ought to talk to the policy makers about and as a matter of

principal. i don't think laws can circle around what's right and wrong. i don't think you can legislate these issues as far as equal pay is concerned. these are things that folks look at and they make decisions on these issues. as far as the party is concerned, i don't think we can legislate these sort of issues. >> thanks for joining us today. republican chairman. >> thank you. >> and former first lady nancy reagan is mark the eighth anniversary of her husband's death as she does every year. she quietly mourning his passing. the foundation released this picture showing the former first lady at her husband's gravesite in simi valley, california. president reagan died in 2004 at 93 years old and had been battling alzheimer's.

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i'm tamron hall. comprehending up in 15 minutes, a showdown between florida and the justice department. it is deadline day for florida. officials to respond to a letter demanding the state stop purging names from the voter roles. what unearthed e-mails about how hard romney pushed for the mandate in the state of massachusetts. we will have more on the wisconsin results and whether they proved it is all about the benjamins. >> how are democrats dealing with the loss in wisconsin and does it put the state in play in november? the executive director patrick gas. >>. thanks for coming. good to see you again. >> thank you for having me. >> i want to give you a chance to respond. you may have heard they told us that the president did not lift a finger for democrats in wisconsin and they will say in

november, stay in illinois because you didn't help us. >> they said a number of things i would love to respond to and the notion that is now he is a spokesperson. that is beyond the pale. that is clear that the issues in this campaign were particular to the state of wisconsin. they tuesday himself. haley barber said we could not extrapolate from the results and impact in november. i happened to agree with the exit polling and the public polling from marquette as recently as a few days ago. they indicate that the president is well-positioned in the state and activist on the ground appreciate the resources and the democratic party moved into wisconsin and bill clinton came in and campaigned on behalf of all democrats. the mayor himself said that not

only was he satisfied, but he thought it would not have been proper to nationalize this conte contest. i would agree with them on the results. . >> why didn't the president campaign? barrett is obviously trying to let him off. >> they got the vote up. . >> there were issues here and the struggle that were about issues that were particular to the people of wisconsin and clearly after winning office, it said a lot about where the people of that state are and the question of collective bargaining rights and taking rights away from workers that scott walker was compelled to defend his seat ten months later and had to spend and get resources from the koch brothers and others to inunidate the

state with the mayor. clearly there were issues that were playing out in wisconsin. the national level we moved the considerable organizing resources into the state and they invested in over one million dollars in building to make sure that democrats up and down the ballot do well on november sixth. >> in terms of money, he was overspent and couldn't you have put more money in and was it a mistake to push for the recall? >> they always knew they would be outspent in wisconsin, the koch brothers alone spent more than twice the amount they raised and spent in his campaign and told you about the environment we found ourselves in with the decision. i think that leadership in wisconsin in organized labor and

the progressive community at large and the democratic party felt the ground swell of energy and the petition on the ballot and there were hundreds of thousands of wisconsiniets that came out and made it clear to governor walker they have real concerns he is leading the state in. i think that again these decisions were particular to the folks in wisconsin and we're just going to continue to build in that state so we canning successful not only there but throughout the entire new western region come november 6th. >> thank you so much, patrick. thanks for joining us today. >> thank you. >> we have a passing to note. legendary science fiction writer ray bradbury is dead. he was 91 years old. he had legions of fans for his classics including the martin chronicles and something wicked this way comes. he adapted the stories for

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community. a big night. remember when he made the decision a lot of analysis is how much a fundraising wind fall it would be because they are huge donors to the democratic party and he is reaping that tonight. >> on the flight out jay carney told reporters he and the president just haven't discussed wisconsin. he doesn't know what the president is going to say. >> i didn't have any conversation about the president about that. jay is a former reporter and it never came up? >> plausible deny ability. thank you very much. >> that does it for us. tomorrow on the show dick durbin, former health and human services secretary donna and remember to follow online and on twitter at mitchell reports. my colleague tamron hall has a look at what's next on news station. hi, tamron. >> andrea, good to see you. developing news, it is deadline day for florio officials to respond to the justice department's letter demanding they stop purging names from the

voter rolls. what have we learned from the new e-mail that is show how hard mitt romney pushed for the individual mandate in the massachusetts health care law. we'll show you some of these e-mails. we also have wisconsin results and whether they prove that it is all about the money in politics. plus blues legend buddy guy joins the news nation. we'll talk about singing with the president.

i am tamron hall. the news nation is following developing news this hour. when money matters, this hour president obama set to land in california to kick off his third fundraising trip to that state in a month. reports show the campaign expects to raise $5 million in the golden state. if there is any doubt that cash is king in politics, democrats say look no further than wisconsin and governor scott walker's victory. walker out spent his democratic challenger by anyere from 7.5 to 10% to become the nation's

only governor to defeat a recall. politico sums it up like this, cash doesn't talk in 2012, it shouts, and wisconsin was a sonic boom that is breaking glass in chicago. on msnbc's the daily rundown walker defended the big spending and the fact that 66% of donations came from out of state. >> the recall law itself and the portion of the constitution that enables the recall allowed for that kind of money to come in. remember, it is a year-and-a-half assault that started last february against me and started out with the national special interests on the left and finished off with every special interest right or left in america seemingly involved in the state. >> joining me now michael smerconish and amy stoddard, associate editor and columnist for the hill and from wisconsin daniel bice, political watch dog columnist for the milwaukee journal