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>> right. >> the private sector job growth was 82,000. the public sector job loss net was 13,000. the total job net gain, 62,000. less than half of what had been projected. i am thinking that what the president was trying to say is that there is private sector job growth, that's not the problem, but hardly what you would be saying if you're trying to show your concern about all the private sector unemployment. >> and the $2 trillion that the private sector investors are sitting on flight-of-now cash rather than invest in job creation. the president's point is, yes, there's been a net -- actually a gross increase in private sector jobs but a reduction in public sector jobs. you know, the president has to stop playing diagnostician. the public doesn't want somebody giving a diagnosis. they want a solution and a cure. go out and say, well, we need to retain more teachers.
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they want to hear you're going to grow jobs in the public and private sector. the president was too particular in playing defense. you and i watched this. ronald reagan to use a conservative example, would pass a bill on tax cuts, sell it before he did it, during it and amp it passed for seven years. he always understood you have to make your sale. the sale comes at election time. not when you pass the bill. this president has to sell he's creating jobs and he wants the republicans to create more jobs. he wants to say, if i had my way, congress would have passed this jobs bill last september i'm fighting for right now. >> play a little more of what the president had to say today. >> we've created 4.3 million jobs over the last 27 months. over 800,000 just this year alone. the private secretary sir doing fine. the private sector is doing
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fine. where we're seeing weaknesses in the economy have to do with state and local government. the recipes that they're promoting are basically the kinds of policies that would add weakness to the economy. >> as you pointed out, parsing it too much, and he's missing the big picture and mitt romney jumped all over him already. >> the box core number is 8.2% unemployment and rising. the other box car number, a national growth rate of 1.9% for the first part of this year. we were thinking around 2.5 or up to 3 this year. 1.9. that's the big story. for him to sap the private sector is doing its part, doing well, isn't right. >> and bad politics. the point of what they've got to be focused on. >> that's why you have press conferences. to explain things to the people. >> and to do, use your analogy of ronald reagan, tell you before, during and after, and we reporters would say, there's
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nothing new here, just repeating himself. repeating himself and getting through to the voters. he doesn't care about the press corps. >> no lectures, sophisticated groups. the number one rule of giving a speech, tell them what you're going to tell them. tell them and then tell them what you just told them. >> gave mitt romney an opening. here's mitt romney in iowa. >> he said the private sector is doing fine. he said, the private sector is doing fine. is he really that out of touch? for the president of the united states to stand up and say the private sector is doing fine is going to go down in history as an extraordinary miscalculation and misunderstanding by a president who's out of touch. >> romney's got some leverage this week. a good week for him. the white house was trying to stop that dead in its tracks but they did not really accomplish that today.
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>> this isn't saying anything wrong about him. it's normal politics, but he benefits every time the economy goes down. he doesn't have to prove he's got a better plan. he doesn't have to say, i'm going to be different than george w. bush. >> let's just stipulate. he ought to prove it. >> ought to. >> ought to be putting it on e table. >> we would know what both sides are offering. he benefits every time there's a down tick. we know that. a tough time for president obama. when the going gets tough, the tough get going. he need to upgrade his game. offer something big to the people now. don't wait are in charlotte, north carolina and the kweng convention. big jobs. i said before, if republicansless say no to spam, ask for steak. >> like steak over spam. >> the old spam, the kind that came in a can. >> got it. chris matthews, thank you for starting us off today. meanwhile a showdown is shaping up between the white house and democratic and republicans leaders from the
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house and senate intelligence committees. all in agreement on the hill over a spate of highly classify the leaks. michigan congressman mike rogers chairs the house intelligence committee and has the latest from the hill. we heard the president today responding from accusations from the hill that his administration somehow lyriced this to somehow help him politically. the president's response this morning, congressman. >> we will continue to let everybody know in government or after they leave government that they have certain obligations that they should carry out, but as i think has been indicated from these articles, whether or not the information they've received is true, the writers of these articles have all stated unequivocally they didn't come from this white house, and that's not how we operate. >> did you buy it? >> well, one good thing about the house intelligence committee
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and the senate intelligence committee, we're approaching this in a non-partisan way. these leaks are so serious and so damaging, we need to take this where it goes. not necessarily already make our decision that it was in this particular place or that. what is interesting, andrea, for the president to tell his executive branch, knock it off. stop talk. it's very clear someone in any executive branch, not just the white house, who had access to compartized communication has been communicating to the press. that's a crime. his outrage shouldn't really be at those in the house or senate that may have made accusations. it should be to stop this and stop it now. is jeopardizing operations today. risking the lives of american whose are helping today and it it creating trouble for us
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moving forward to have operations that protect america, and that's what's so concerning, and it's not just an incident. it is a series of incidents. that's why both republicans and democrats came together and said, this is as bad as we've ever seen it, we have to do something about it and find out who this criminal leaker is. >> as you point out, a number of cases. the most recent, the reporting in david sanger's new book about the ongoing covert cyber war against iran. you met with the fbi director, robert mueller, behind closed doors yesterday afternoon. all of you did. it's our understanding that the justice department is the rejecting calls for a special prosecutor. is that the case? >> well, i've had conversations way whole host of people, including the attorney general about the pros and cons of trying to do this through a special counsel. i don't think we've all come to a conclusion, and i mean all of us. the four republican, democrat, and both the house and the senate committees. the leadership of those
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committees, if this is the right direction or not. what is confounding to us is that it would have to be someone in this investigation that could go wherever it leads, and that might be the white house or the top of the cia or fbi or d.o.d. or the attorney general's office. as a matter of fact, in one particular investigation, they had to recuse a section of their national security shop, because they had access to the information. not because they were disclosing information, but they had toll recuse themselves because they had access to the information. so it gets -- you can see, it gets really hard, really quickly, to have a non-partisan, fair but complete -- by complete i mean having access to all of the places that have the information. so some have called for a special counsel. you know, i'm going through the information trying to determine, you know, clearly there's some things here that are very, very troubling, or we wouldn't have all come together on this. can they do it themselves or do we need a special counsel? we have not made a definitive answer yet, but hopefully will
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do it soon. >> there was a suggestion and something that the president said today when he talked about officials and former officials. and i'm -- you know, you've been around the town a long time. so have i. we hear reports that some people are pointing fingers at former bush administration officials on the iran story, because that did -- that's a covert program that did start in the previous white house. are you also looking at people who have left government? >> believe me, again, that's why this investigation is so -- that it be fair and impartial. it should go where it goes. the only problem with that is there were people talking who are in the situation room under this president revealing details that very few people play may o not get on certain cases. i'm talking about a whole host and range of things leaked over time. that's very, very troubling and why i was hoping today the president would take this opportunity to say, listen, if
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it's someone in my administration leaking for any reason, that's a criminal offense and we will not tolerate pap great, strong and powerful message. i was hoping for that message today. >> you did not hear him say that? put out that word to the people himself? >> i did not. i heard him address charges to some in the house. this is not the house and the senate. some in the house and senate are doing that. the folk whose take national security seriously on the two intelligence committees i think have been very balanced and fair as we move forward to find out who is leaking, and what it is, it's a series, a cascade of leaks that are very concerning, and it's over a period of time in the last couple of years. it's not one incident. that's important to understand, that that's what got us to this point. this would have ban great opportunity for the president, and i hope he'll do that. i hope he hasn't decided not to do that. to come out, show that kind of leadership and tell his own cabinet, his own executive branch that he will not tolerate
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leaks and neither should they. in would be a good start and then we can continue further with our review and whey i believe has to eventually lead to an investigation. if you look at the valerie plame case, it was bad enough. somebody went to jail over it and i argue, rightly so. the damage that has happened over these cascading leaks is 100 times worse and much more dangerous. >> thank you so much. chairman mike rogers. the intelligence chair. thank you. now that breaking news at belmont, in belmont, new york. of course, the word, we see the trainer right there talking about the scratching of his horse i'll have another. >> -- to be here and try to makes hadtry. got to think, thank them for making this possible, and i've got to thank the team, too. a lot of them are back at the mansion. letting them enjoy and i think they are enjoying the pool and tennis court today, but --
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johnny who gets on him every day, just a great kid. beta, came out here in case we need add backup. you know, senseio, worked his butt off every day. benjamin, raising him. salvous, leandro, thump ter, tyler. so -- marcos, but it has been an incredible ride, incredible run, and i've taken so many notes. a lot of mental notes and i know we're going to be back here again. some people have asked if i thought the tension bar had anything to do with this and absolutely not. just a freakish thing. he has been showing a little bit of -- you know, been a little quiet the last few days of galloping. his legs great. gallops great, but in the afternoon we notice some loss of
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definition in his left front leg to which, like every other owner and trainer, we prayed he just kind of hit himself and a little skin irritation. we did him up in a special pulltas. this morning he looks great. i thanked the racing gods there and an easy gap jllop. i thought he looked great. cooling out, you could tell the swelling was back and at that point i didn't feel very good. i talked to mr. redham, and, you know, immediately we got dr. hunt over here. he scanned him, and said it was the start of tendinitis in his left front tendon, and you know, you could give him three to six months and start back with him, but obviously, he's done so much that it was unanimous between the redhams and my brother and i and everyone at the barn to retire him, and it is a bummerish, but, again, far from
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tragic. but it is very disappointing. we just heard doug o'neill, the trainer saying, just heard it, it is a bummer, but far from tragic, but very, very disappointing. we had an audio interruption there. back to belmont. >> we tried to be quiet. i really thought he was going to run off tomorrow and really show something. so we were all a bit shocked but have to dot what's best for the horse, and if he can't compete at the top level, you know, he's done enough. and doug, thank you. >> thank you. >> we'll take questions for a minute. >> for the questions here, like i said, have to keep the volume down. so if you have a question, just -- say the question.
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i'll leerepeat the question int the mike. >> have you guys finalized stud plans yet? >> well, stud season is over for this year. so the horse, i'm going to assume, is going to go back to hollywood park. be in friendly surroundings, and i guess we would be open to talking about that at some point here, but it's not an emergency to talk about, where he's going to stand or what he would stand for, or this and that. we're just going to just -look, races are going on today. the big race is tomorrow. we're going to be there as a fan now. won't tell you who we're betting on. but we'll take a few days and just let this play out. >> there was a question, which leg and which tendon the injury occurred to? >> his left front. he had tendinitis in the left front, superficial tendon.
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>> the question is what's the difference between tendinitis and a bowed tendon? >> joining me now live from new york at belmont is nbc's jay gray. jay, what about the rest of the field? this disappointment, of course, is hugely disappointing for all racing and sports fans and everyone who loves horses, but what about the race itself? and what the impact is? huge impact on this race? >> reporter: yes. a huge impact. absolutely right pap great point. look, everyone involved in this race, all 12 horses were gaining from what was going to happen. that run at history. all getting recognition. it was going to be a huge event. ful still will be a huge event. belmont is the a huge race. they are already talking about what they expect to see as far as a reduced crowd at park. very concerned with concession sales. with sales of paraphernalia
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associated with this horse. so there is a big concern, and it sweeps across several levels here at belmont park. funny, because this morning early, just as the sun was coming up, i'll have another actually got out. made its run. it didn't run at a full pace. at first, just to try, and then a gallop. funny how fast the information went through this area. much like the paces of the horses that survourround the tr. then it became clear i'll have another would no race. attention turned to not only the horse but what happen saturday. >> jay gray, thank you very much. and the horse for becoming the vice president running mate.
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hiring is moving in the wrong direction, and we're to blame. because the economy's not growing. >> joining me now is republican strategist fred malic, a strong romney supporter. good to see you. thank you so much. when we talk about what he wants in a vice president, first of all, there is reporting today in politico and elsewhere that maybe people inside the campaign are thinking about going early, rather than waiting traditionally to just before the convention. what are the pluses and minuses of going early and getting some additional buzz and additional fund-raising now in the month and a half leading up to the convention? >> pluses and minuses. i must say, i have no knowledge whatsoever what the plans are. the only plus in going early, starts the buzz earlier, keeping the momentum going and another person out there campaigning on behalf of the ticket earlier. the mufund-raising will happen
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with our twhut, but there are advantage there's. however, i think it takes away the real suspense of the thing, and traditionally, that's why people have -- many presidents have waited until the convention or right before the kwengts to do so. there are more advantages to waiting than going early. >> our colleague, chuck todd have written it up as a stock. if you're investing in stock and what they are putting up as the most expensive stocks. rob portman. of course, the senator from ohio, who was a former cabinet official in the bush white house. and marco rubio from florida. pluses and minuses? >> i think that they both would be excellent vice presidential choices. i think the first requirement that governor romney will be looking for is somebody who has the ability and the experience to be a president of the united states. there's no question about it. that's the first thing he's going to be looking for. somebody who has the chemistry with him to be a good steward
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and a good partner once he gets to the white house. i think they both filled that role. in addition i think there is some powerful governs who would be excellent choices as well. bob mcdonnell in virginia is one. chris christie, we heard from recently another. bobby jindal in louisiana. i think if he wanted to reach a little further and go with a female running mate which has a lot of appeal, he could go with susannah martinez in new mexico. an awful lot of really good choices. >> some argue chris christie and bob mcdonnell overvalued. that mcdonnell tripped a bit on the whole gender issue. the abortion question. with different signals sends on that legislation and chris christie is too hot to be a vice president. he himself said he would not be a good number two and comes from two liberal a part of the party to be a good representative. >> none of these people were
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bred to be number two. all number ones in ability and accomplishment. that's what you want. somebody who can be number one and will accept the understudy role for a period of time and help you lead a successful administration. i think they would do that very well. i think tim pawlenty. >> i was just going to mention him. he has the experience of running, being in the big time. some would say he got out too soon, because he ran out of money after the ames straw poll. you mentioned bobby jindal and john thune. what about john thune? >> i think john thune is terrific. i think john is terrific. he, of course, represents a smaller state. but he's got great legislative experience, a strong leader. on the list as well. i, myself, think any would be very, very powerful. very good. you also have to look at who
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brings to you, though, the balance in judgment and experience. from that point of view you could evaluate all of them. some day, portman a strong budgetary experience, omb director, a member of congress, would be strong in that regard. any of the governors because of the executive experience, the decision-making, progress they've made in their states would be strong. i think we have riches here and any one of them would be very, very good. >> good to see you. thank you very much, fred malik. up next, cathy mcmorris rogers in her first interview since being named mitt romney's point person on the hill. a little bird told me about a band... ♪ an old man shared some fish stories... ♪ oooh, my turn. ♪ she was in paris, but we talked for hours...
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thank you for joining us. how do you propose to push back against the arguments a lot of democrats and even some republicans have that women have been disadvantaged by the legislation and by recent lip the vote on pay equity? >> well, first, i'm honored to be serving in this new role for romney, and it is my goal to lead in uniting house republicans around mitt romney. the response has been very positive and i'm encouraged as i see more women coming to the republican party, when they see the policies by mitt romney, creating job, putting people to work, turning around kpip comp and the olympics. he's proven he can get our economy growing again, and that's the number one issue for women right now. is economic growth and job creation. >> doesn't he also, though have to respond to questions about
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his position on a lot of other women's issues, on health issues? on the abortion controversies jb how do you respond on all of that? >> well, we'll have a vigorous debate on all of those issues. when i look at the priorities for women right now in america, though, it is. it's jobs. it's the economy. they're looking at their children and the opportunities that their children are going to have once they graduate from school. 50% of college graduates right now can't get a job. absolutely health care is a priority issue. women make 85% of the health care decisions, and you know? women oppose obamacare more than men. they don't want the federal government interfering with the ability to make their best health care decisions for their parents, for their children, and women care about the debt. they're concerned about this record debt that this administration is leaving to the next generation.
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so all of these issues are going to be a part of the debate. i'm encouraged that i see women coming to the republican party. the republicans won the women's vote in 2010. >> there has always been a gender gap. to what do you attribute the continuing gender gap, then? >> i see the gender gap actually narrowing. in 2010, the republicans won the women's vote. first time since ronald reagan, driven by the economy. the fact that women are struggling finding jobs, and as well well as health care. >> i'm not sure what polls you're citing there, congresswoman. depends how the question is asked what aspect of the health care bill you're talking ak. what about the pay equity bill? the violence against women legislations? a number of key votes on the hill. arguably democrats staged the votes to put republicans on the spot, but it does put you on the defensive and mitt romney on the
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defensive. >> we have republicans -- republicans are rock solid in supporting equal pay for equal work and are committed to ensure that women are paid equal paper for their equal work, and we're going to continue to move forward on that issue. >> what was the objection to that legislation then? >> the bill isn't the senate was a bureaucratic night mayor for our businesses. there's a better way to move forward, and there's been -- on the violence against women act, there's long -- that program has long enjoyed, broad bipartisan support. republicans and democrats believe this is an important program. the house has passed a bill. the senate has passed a bill. i'm hopeful we'll get to conference soon so we can iron out the differences and get something on the president's desk. >> all right. thank you very much. congresswoman cathy mcmorris rogers. thanks for being with us today. look forward to talking to you throughout this campaign. >> thank you. and president obama isn't
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getting help from a lot of his friends. first bill clinton goes seriously off message and now a no holds barred from ed rendell. in his new book, "a nation of wooses" calling out lack of political courage and doesn't spare himself or president obama. joining me now, governor ed rendell and an nbc political an lift and former democratic national chairman. governor, good to see you. thanks for being with us. >> sure, andrea. >> you certainly didn't pull any punches here. why did you write "nation of wooses" and what are your problems with the current democratic leadership? >> well, let me start by saying that i wrote it, because i think we're facing challenges, and the challenges we're facing occur basically because we've been so polarizeded. we're afraid of offending our base supporters. afraid of telling them the truth and afraid of taking any risks to risk our job. and that's hurting us in so many ways, and also hurts us in our
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relationships with countries like china. we walk around on tiptoes. china steals our intellectual properties, hurting our american businesses and we say, please stop, and that's all. we need to get backbone. if we're doing simpson-bowles, democrats have to tell republicans the truth about the entitlement programs we can save them without taking away basic protections and with a little pain and republicans have to tell their constituent and grover norquist that we have to raise revenue, get rid of tax loopholes, may have to get rid of the bush tax cuts and the wealthiest people in the country. it concerned me. i also wanted to write a book that made people feel the fun and exhilaration and wackynesin in the a life of public service. andrea, i thought, people can
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sfwerpt nip way they want. i treated the president very well. i said he's a non-wuss and gave three examples. one, the president continued the financial bailout even though everyone in country hated it, and it would have been easy for him to stop it and blame it on president bush. it would have been politically popular. it would have been the wrong thing to do, it would have hurt the country and maybe hurt the world. two, he went forward on the auto bailout, even though he had very little support among republicans. everyone was criticizing him, but he knew it was the right thing for detroit and it paid off big time. three, health care. his advisers said go slow. do popular insurance reform first. the president knew he would only have these majority of votes once and would need every vote to fush through to help 30 million americans.
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it's a disgrace we don't and the president knew that and risked a lot of political capital and tyke a lot of grief for pushing it through. >> but, i mean, governor, you also argue, though, that he turned over too much to congress in the way they handled the stimulus bill. >> right, but that wasn't being a wuss. >> no. >> that was because of hits legislative experience. he let the congress -- he gave congress broad outlines to let them write stimulus. he could have written his own bill, gotten it through, tighter, better and more effective, but that was a case of not understanding the process. i think he's learned. i think if you look at the jobs bill presentation that he made in october, it was frisk. and everybody learns on the job. had i been president, and you know i have no interest in do it. i would have come with a great lack of experience on foreign affairs and would have had to learn on the job, too.
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>> and was he a wuss on simpson-bowles? did he bolt too quickly on that one? >> i think i would have tried. his advisers say, look, we checked with the congress. there were no votes. if that's so you don't want to waste political capital on something where there are no votes, but i would have brought the people who voted for simpson-bowles. tom colburns and the like, and made a shot and attempt to try to get it done. simpson-bowles wasn't per forget and there wforget -- perfect and pain for everyone, but we have to do something along the lines of simpson-bowles somewhere down the line. but, look, president obama is running against mitt romney. mitt romney's solution is to cut revenue. top cut revenue when everyone know, tom coburn, one of the most conservative members of the senate, understands we have to raise revenue. governor romney's idea cutting
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taxes will produce economic growth. andrea, you know for the last 60 years our biggest job creation occurred when the marginal tax race is 50, 60, 70% knop correlation to this. bill clinton raised taxes in 1993 on the most successful americans. republicans said we're going to get thrown into a recession. we gained 23.5 million jobs in the next 6.5 years. so there's no correlation to that, and the romney plan is no plan at all. the president has the best plan, no ifs, ands and buts about it. >> ed rendell. the book is "the nation of wooses." thank you very much. >> funny book. >> fun book. funny and fun. >> yes. >> thank you very much. someone moo knwho knows how to politics fun. up next, the first president bush as you have never seen him as he approaches his 80th
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hi. everyone. i'm tamron hall. coming up, shocking news from the world of sports. i'll have another is out of the belmont stakes and out of the running for the triple crown. this weekend the horse had a chance to be the first triple winner since 1978. the latest on the horse's condition. plus president obama slams republicans over allegations his administration deliberately leaked classified intelligence to again fit his re-election campaign. and the race is on. it's happening in the president's hometown. former president george herbert walker bush turns 88 next week. adding to the celebration of his birthday, a documentary
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released. telling the president's story in his own words. this rare and intimate look into the life of the former president as he reflects on the highs and lows of his life. in this clip, talks about one of the high points of his life. when he met his future wife barbara. >> i somehow got up my nerve to ask her to dance and they started playing a waltz. i can't waltz. i sat out. and we chatted. and i called her the next day, and took her out. her father was a very successful publisher. the head of mccall corporation. i don't think her mother liked me very much, but the father did. which was important. and barbara did, which was most important. and so we fell in love. old-fashioned falling in love. >> joining me now is the executive producer of the movie, jerry weintraub. what a great pleasure to have you with us today.
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tell us what motivated you. why did you want to do this movie and how did you get the access? >> thanks, andrea. he and i have been friends close to 50 years. i have a home up in kennebunkport and a young fellow by the name of jeff roth contacted the president. he had done a film on astronauts. the president saw it. liked it. invited him up to kennebunkport and the president called me and then the access happen and we got going, and got it done. as you know, he doesn't like to talk about himself. so it was not easy. >> i was going to say. it's not easy to draw him out, because that's, the lessons he drew from his mother. that yankee spirit from connecticut, of course, is not to talk about yourself. not to brag. in fact, some people suggested it was one of problems he in 1992 going up against bill clinton. not bragging about his record. tell us about kennebunkport and what that house, that home really means to them? what that house means to the bush family? >> it means everything. back for one second.
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1992, i don't think that was the problem in '92. i think perot was the problem. >> you're absolutely right. one of the problems. i spent time up there. he took us during the transition, after elected in 1988. thanksgiving '88, took the press corps on a tour of the house and insisted on bringing us upstairs to show us the view from a bathroom. how beautiful the view was. never forget t. the house is a big part of his life. it's a character of his life. it brought him solace, and it was a place for him to go and relax and get away from all of the pressures of the presidency, and all the other pressures he had when he was becoming, when he went into politics in the '60s and he became ambassador to the united nations, liaison to china, head of the orient sea,
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head of the cia. the most prepared man to ever enter the presidency in our country, i believe. >> one of the things that's happened most recently, we've seen that he now has suffered from the parkinson's syndrome and has trouble walking. the most active of presidents. he loved playing tennis. celebrated advance birthdays we know jumping out of planes. let me play a little bit of your documentary on talking about how he's had to slow down. >> that's where i'm at peace. i just love it. sports, i've lived my whole life doing. nobody asks me to be on the team anymore. remember i used to stand around jn you. no, you, next to you. take you, you. i'm standing. nobody wants me, because i can't move very well. this is a metaphor, but i miss it. boats, i'm still in the game.
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>> in fact, there were reporters who went in that cigarette boat and found was very rough. rough going, because he was a fast sailor. >> yes, i've been in it many, many time, and he's very fast. he loves the speed of the boat. but i'll tell you, just in retrospect, he could never putt. even in the old days. >> no patience. at least callful aerobic golf, in the press corps, in the pool watching him play on the course. nobody went around the golf course any faster. what about his attitude towards the future and towards the presidency? let me play a little bit more from your documentary. >> i've seen what crosses that big desk. i've seen the unexpected crisis that arrives in a table in a young aide's hand and so i know that what it all comes down to this election is the man at the
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desk, and who should sit at that desk? my friends, i am that man. >> when you think about it, the relationship that he developed with bill clinton, it's so extraordinary watching them go around the world in their earlier years, the bond that they formed between the clinton and the bushes because there was no love loss there, certainly. and they have an understanding of service and service to the country that the bushes, as a family, certainly had from bush 41. >> yes. and it came from his mother and father, from senator bush, and then he ended up with a son who was president twice. that's pretty extraordinary. and a sitting governor at the same time. and i think -- i haven't had a long discussion with him about how he feels about the presidency now, but i know that he's at peace with himself, he's had a good life, a really, really good run.
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he and his wife have had an extraordinary time with their family. they have a wonderful, wonderful family. they're very, very lucky. they feel very, very lucky. and i think heqñ doesn't -- he' not really into politics at this moment in time. he's certainly interested, but i think he has other interests in life right now. >> and the documentary airs next week on june 14th commemorating the 88th birthday next week, as well. thank you for bringing that to us. >> thank you. >> and we'll be right back. ♪ 99 bushels of wheat on the farm...99 bushels of wheat! ♪ [ male announcer ] kellogg's® mini-wheats cereal has 8 layers of whole grain fiber... so they stick with you. ♪ 45 bushels of wheat on the farm. 45 bushels of wheat! ♪ all morning long. there's a big breakfast... [ mini ] yeehaw! in those fun little biscuits.
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we have to go back to belmont and darren rovell is joining us from cnbc. thank you, darren. we've got the terrible news about i'll have another. and now it would al that dullahan, who finished third at the derby would be the new favorite because bodemeister is
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not in this race. maybe you've been tracking it, as well, the french open from roland garros, novak djokovic has defeated roger federer in straight sets. that positions him, if he were to beat nadal, to become the first man to win four great grand slams in many years. this is a very big deal from roland garros. >> yeah, nadal is a tough competitor. as you were saying, here at the belmont, not only is i'll have another not going to be in this race, only the third horse that would have gone after the triple crown to not race at bell hospital in the history of the triple crown, but also, obviously, is now going to be retired from racing and will now probably go off to stud. the horse is worth probably $6 million to $8 million from breeding, from winning the kentucky derby and the preakness. you know, you have to think
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dullahin, union rags are horses that should have won sometime this year. those are the two favorites heading into tomorrow. all the buzz has certainly fizzed out of this race. >> we'll all be watching, in any case. thanks for watching. tamron has a look at what's next. >> we are still following that breaking news so many folks are talking about. i'll have another is out of the belmont stakes. this weekend, the horse had an opportunity to make history as the trip triple crown winner since 1978. we'll get the latest on i'll have another's condition and talk about the horse racing world, some of the secrets behind him. and president obama takes on the republicans that his administration deliberately leaked national intel to help his re-election campaign. plus, we have live where the race is on in the president's hometown.
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hi, everyone. breaking news this hour, triple crown hopeful i'll have another will not compete in tomorrow's belmont stakes. i'll have another was looking to become the first horse to win the triple crown in 34 years. the horse's trainer, doug o'neill broke the news in a conference. >> you could tell the swelling was back and at that point, he didn't feel very good. he's done so much that it was unanimous we know the reddams and my brother and i and everyone at the barn to retire him. >> nbc news correspondent jay gray is in new york with an update. jay, this horse now going off to be retired. valued or worth some $6 million to $8 million. our clooel colleague, darren rovell just saying that here.

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