stroke and spending time on life support. he was moved, they say, to a mull tier hospital from jail where he is serving a life sentence for the deaths of 900 proteste protesters. candidates continue to claim victory. thousands of supportners -- supporters in the street. colonel jack jacobs, nice to see you. >> good to see. >> did you thank you for teaching me what you have up to this point. one more round of this. apollo xiii, we have to land the plane or the bird or whatever the thing is. we have clearly diminished leverage in the middle east and we have clearly increased distributed power in the middle east beyond the governments in any of those countries. and we have apparently increasingly limited options at

a time when we are still very dependent on that part of the world specifically for energy resources. what to do? >> where to begin. let's talk about -- what we -- we are faced with right now as you accurately framed is the fact that we don't have a lot of influence. but we are not without influence. so this is where we have to apollo xiii, what do you have available? let's put together modelling and figure out how to go. we are looking at a -- you know, all presidents are created equal, some are created more equal than others to quote "animal farm." this is case you have to figure out -- this is not bad yet. it is bad but could be worse. egypt is not libya. i think there are things here we need to consider. they still have some level of society order. you know, things are still functioning. still a culture. >> jobs. >> other thing to remember here, i know what people said in the military, step aside. the vote was split right down the middle. we are talking about a very close vote here. the military has to maintain some level of order no matter

what happens. that's what got us here so for. double-edged sword. they may be slowing down progress. >> real lesson in egypt and indeed the entire middle east for how we use our instruments of policy. military knows what it is doing. if you want to stop blowing up people killed, throws the guys to go to. it turns out to be the default instrument of policy because we don't know how to use the other ones. we are the world's worst procrastinators. problem in egypt, i mean, it is not like mubarak has just taken office. he has been there for decades. same thing with gadhafi. we ignore it. completely and totally until the only -- either have only the issues of foreign policy we can use or no leverage whatsoever. you are right about egypt. it has culture and dominant force in the middle east. we are hoping things turn out okay. our leverage is greatly reduced

because we wasted a lot of time. >> what you are describing, jack, is american culture. if culture of american foreign policy, which as you -- if i understand what you are saying is predicated upon a culture of denial, which doesn't proper lynn understand or won't acknowledge -- somebody with heart disease preep 2etending t don't have heart disease they are alarmed when they have a heart problem. >> 25 milk shakes a day last 40 years. i have to have a coronary bypass. that's the situation here. this should be a lesson to us about -- not whether or not we use the military or how we use it but about the use of the other instruments of policy. particularly diplomacy. >> greatest damage in the context to our heart, currency of our blood, would be trust. right? and then that's what's -- going thin. i guess -- my question for you, tone write, what would you --

what could we do to even to reduce the did kay in trust we are suffering and hurting our ability to engage. let alone restore trust so we have more authority to engage. >> jack is correct. we should have been engaging in trust years. i mean, we don't have that as part of the problem. let's go back and take a look at pakistan. musharraf came to power through a coup and became the president and then it took force from us to allow for free elections. for president zardari to step forward and be the president. another situation where -- same basic thing. we have not actually used things until it is almost too late. we have to put pressure on musharraf and at a critical time. i think it set us back in the war there in ways we still don't fully understand. so we have to pig out now how to go forward because right now it is a critical time. frankly, i don't think the palestinians want this to go belly-up. i don't think anybody wants to see this go down. there has to be a path going

forward. all we have left in the way of leverage, work with the military. >> in egypt. which is the last resort. heart bypass. now back at the emergency room. >> and under anesthetic. it has to be behind closed doors and you can't get up in front of everybody -- let me tell you what we are going to do now with egypt over the next three weeks because it ain't going to work. we have to get to work but we need to do it behind closed doors and better off keeping our mouths shut about it. i'm talking about politicians and people who are -- in the government who are going to make it happen until after we -- will have that. >> tell them what you have done. >> not what you are going to do. >> never works if you do it that way. >> in a matter of opinion, more informed and expert opinion on your part. everybody obviously has this entitlement over there. if you look at that time fate of the middle east, is the fate of the middle east more worn i did the decisions of the people that live in the middle east, do they control their destiny? or is it more dictated by those

outside of the middle east, russia, china, united states, and others and how would you weight the influence over the fate of the middle east proportion alto the occupants the citizens of that part of the world and those that exert themselves -- >> thinking about syria or -- >> pick them. >> well, i can just tell you that -- to quote tony, paraphrase tony, syria ain't egypt. we can talk about it all we want to about what bad guy -- >> mubarak. >> al assad is. he is a really bad guy and -- >> butcher. the butcher. >> we will make sure he doesn't continue to be a really bad guy but the instant russia says look, i will tell what you we will do. we will send sailors there, ships there, put people on the ground and anti-aircraft missiles there. how do you like that, united states of america? i mean -- >> i don't like that.

>> no, no. neither does the president. neither does anybody in the -- all right. our rage of influence is dependent on where you are talking about. lots of influence in libya. >> at the end of the day whether people shoot each other is a function of the people themselves or those who would project a desired to shoot each other on to those people. anywhere in the world. >> very fair. to add to jack's point, one of his former students and my mentors, said we just don't know what we want to do. we don't have a clear policy for what we are trying to achieve here. woupt understanding what you want to achieve, you are flail being. >> like we immediate to do more -- we need to go back to the mission analysis phase ourselves and as a country and say -- what are we imagining for ourselves. >> bows back to the apollo xiii. what can we do? 110% with jack or let's look other options besides military so we don't have to go back to the military. >> if you don't know where you are bogey any road will take you there. that's the road we are on now.

>> thank you for your candor and your teaching for myself and audience. you have been great. thank you. >> thanks. >> coming up here, developing news this afternoon in our own country. our attorney general eric holder in contempt. we are waiting on the vote as political actions fly fast and furious on the hill. equally quick-witted wednesday mega-panel up to speed. plus, getting schooled. two pioneering community leaders teaching us all how we can get vastly more for much less with a lot more fun. lot faster when it comes to education which may be how we get out of the pickle we found ourselves in. and from our failing educational system to economic woes. have we found the villain? is kim kardashian to blame for everything that ails us? we will tell you who is blaming the reality star important the

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we are waiting for the house oversight committee whether they are going to hold holder to contempt of congress. if it passes it will go to the house floor. pete williams stand big. an attorney general being held in contempt. does it happen all the time? not that often. >> b, not that often.

last attorney general cited for contempt is janet reno in which t clinton administration. there have been about 12 cabinet members cited by congress. either by a committee as of this vote or the full house for contempt. and that's since 1957. this modern use of the contempt power is really a sort of post-watergate phenomenon. and equally frequently, i guess you can say or much more frequently, i guess you should say, is the assertion of executive privilege over documents that congress wants. that happens a lot. this is the first time president obama has done it. and today he said that he was going to assert privilege over the documents that the committee wants. i think it is important to note that what this fight right now is about is not what you might call sort of the core documents about this botched gunrunning operation called fast and furious. in which atf agents were instructed to watch illegally purchased guns stream across the border into mexico. to see where they ended up and they lost track of them.

and so when the justice department said what interest found out about it, the attorney general holder put a stop to it. what the committee wants is documents from the last year because justice department sent a letter to congress saying that there were no gun walked and then it found out there were. congress wants to know what was going on then. was there a coverup. the justice department insists there wasn't. it is those documents the committee wants and it is those documents or at least subset of them the president today said are covered by executive privilege because their internal deliberations within the administration, something that the obama people say has traditionally been at grounds for executive privilege. >> thank you, pete, for the clarity here. of course, the harsh words have been flying past and furious from both democrats and republicans at that time hearing. here is a taste of how they greeted the attorney general. >> the committee meets today to consider reporting a resolution to the house of representative,

finding the attorney general, eric holder jr. in contempt of congress. >> for the past year, you have been holding the attorney general to an impossible standard. >> no reason in the world or under them all or under the proceedings of congress in our constitution the way this government is set up, this committee is not entitled to this information. >> i am horrified that you are going forward with this contempt charge. >> it is sad and disappointing but the department of justice should provide us these documents. it is disappointing we have to be here today. it is not about eric holder. it is about the department of justice and justice in the united states of america. >> yes. the mega-panel is here. there are many issues. proportionality seems to be a lost concept in done trip at this point in time. is this the top priority for the american government? if so, why? if not, are we fiddling --

>> you could have said the same thing when we had jamie dimon. we are spending lots of hours and already done it in the senate trying to figure out why a cota makes $6 billion a quarter lost $2 billion. it is all important. it is important to the justice department doesn't screw things up. it is important 2,000 guns don't go missing on the board and it is important banks don't fail and cost taxpayers. it is really important that congress works out the fiscal crises we have in this country and it works out a gun law by the way or something that -- the 2,000 guns is a rounding -- when you think about the guns along the border states sent into mexico because of our lax gun policies, you talk to any mexican and tel aviv you this is a big problem. we view this as a political fight. >> proportionality is everything in this country right now. you can really fight about anything and really any subject you want to bring up. i can pretty much offend you with some statistical offense of -- negligence or failure on somebody's part. but to the point with rob, i

feel like this government and really through the duration the past few years, and the media in general, between don't differentiate between really significant problems that if we don't resolve them we will -- health care, banking system, energy, trade our tax and other incidents like this that are wond wonderfully compelling theater and are sort of symptomatic of maybe the gun issue. i don't know how to make sense of this. >> i agree with both of you. but also this. president obama, nobel peace prize winner, fast and furious? it is not hope and change, is it? finding it quite extraordinary how similar he is -- >> maybe you have a peculiar british definition of the word peace. >> oh is that it? >> did you ever think about that? >> i'm, i came up with that because i'm english. >> jonathon, proportionality,

this particular incident in the world at large. >> we have had breaking news banners all over msnbc all day wait for this contempt vote to happen. and yet, i don't recall seeing any attention like this kind of attention being paid to, say, the fiscal cliff or to what is going to happen, what are the republicans going to do if the health care laws are deemed completely unconstitutional? there are bigger issues that that congress should be paying attention to when they are in town and which isn't all that often. >> so obviously we all have our own frustrations and perspectives and biases. they are all different. >> sorry. dylan. >> they just got -- listen, i'm big-time anchorman and know these things now. people have different views, jonathan. i figured it out.

anyway. there you see they are voting on the eric holder contempt vote no now. should i go to kim kardashian now or the eric holder vote? i don't know what to do. we are going to the vote. but while we are going to the vote, i'm going to present to you, jonathan, the reroute of all of our problems which is, according to the school head mistress in britain, who is at the top all-girl school, kim kardashian, she says, and i quote, signals the decline of western civilization, full quote is a simple one. it says almost everything that's wrong with western society today can be summed up in that one symbolic photo of miss kim kardashian on the front of "zoo" magazine. it can be read at every curve. i don't have a british accent. i wish i did. you should read this. read the last part of this.

it says -- imogen will read it. you see that down there, about her curves? >> of which you will note there are indeed many. >> basically she has too many curves and it is the end of civilization. have we found -- have we found the culprit for congress and media's failure finally, jonathan? >> i don't know if she is the culprit for congress' failure. s it may be a little bit much to blame the entire decline of the fall of western civilization on her. but let it be said by me here right now that she is part of the -- part of the problem. it horrifies me that we are even talking about her, she's even a star because she and her family have a reality tv show where we get to be -- we, i have never seen the show, but i know who she is and what she is all about which isn't much. but she's famous for being famous for doing things that no one in their right mind would be

caught dead doing, i guess, unless you would be -- unless someone throws a bag of money at. >> did you at the end of the day, with -- with the head mistress really referring, obviously, to where culture places its attention is an indication of where a culture is. she's basically saying we have our attention in the wrong place. >> yes. but we always had irrational need to elevate certain individuals. that's why we are families shakes pier. >> when i was younger, it was -- kate moss. kim kardashian loves her family. healthier role model. we could do worse. >> as babes go we always had babes. that's the point of the media and -- >> we all need distractions. >> the problem is when you have the contempt of -- and you see congress is engaging its own political distraction. >> the vote has just come through here. and the panel, issa house panel,

found holder in contempt of congress. which means that this will now go to the full house floor which may not create any jobs or certainly creates scandal of adaptive learning, health, balance the budget but it will give them something else to vote on. next up here, time for action. young gun matt seigel on the state of youth activism in america. [ kate ] many women may not be properly absorbing the calcium they take because they don't take it with food. switch to citracal maximum plus d. it's the only calcium supplement that can be taken with or without food. that's why my doctor recommends citracal maximum. it's all about absorption.

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when i was growing up, i always thought i would go to college and then i would get some job that i hated. at least there would be a job. albeit one i hated. but i now suppose when kids are in college and growing up they feel like they are not even going to be able to get a job. >> young kids sitting at home watching. >> join us. >> ourtime.org.

>> sign the petition to create a million jobs or i will come over there and slap you silly. >> that, of course, larry david. along with a slew of other celebrities in a new video by our time. nonprofit that advocates for the rights of young adults. it calls on young folks to sign a petition and stand up and act to create a million new service jobs. america's young people are ready, willing and ibl to take on no matter what stereotypes to the contrary or what platitudes you may hear. matt seigel, co-founder and president of our time has been one of our favorite guests in the run of this show. and is now graduated to a specialist. you have to deal with that. now it is the wolves out here. tell me quickly what is going on and then i will let you deal with the gang. >> we launched this video because i believe culture leads

politics. unless you leverage celebrities, athletes, musicians to speak to the younger generation who looks up to them, it is difficult to cut through the clutter. this initiative is about creating 1 million new service jobs a generation largely unemployed and needs work force training and, quite frankly, without jobs, is more of a burden on the state by what we spend on their unemployment insurance and what between spend putting them in prison, what between spend on food stamps and other social welfare programs. we can either pay now for that, which we are, or we can invest in their long-term productivity by giving them jobs so they are trained and have confidence and so that they ultimately grow the economy as productive citizens. >> pay a bill either way. you might as well -- expenditure to provide food and unemployment and prison which is a great plan. >> it frustrates -- >> no better career plan than prison. that's the tragedy of this country right now. >> yeah.

>> how are you going to pay for this? >> so many people say that. >> i remember -- i was young once. and back then there was -- there was lots of concern about deficits that we were creating. there was the concord coalition and all those guys saying we need to cut down debt, peterson. i mean, there is a tradeoff for you in a sense. if your generation says we will spend the money now and keep us employed or doing this, service to our country, or if -- the -- don't you worry that you will have a bigger bill to pay 20 years, 30 years down the road when social security is gone and all that kind of stuff. >> you already have a gargantuan bill to pay. if you look at where the deficit is less% of it is invested in education and in the things people make productive so they grow the work force. we have on pay to take care of people regardless. what i don't appreciate from a lot of people who criticized the effort, most people support the

effort and our generation is firmly in support of the effort. but important the people in the -- and cynics that looked at this, it is -- if we want to say between don't want to add a dime to our deficit, we are going to continue to keep providing unemployment insurance and continue incarcerating people so that will be within our budget and continue providing food stamps and continue with detention centers. we are already continuing with this stuff. let's take that money and put it to a program that can get people trained and so they can transition from the public sector to the non-profit sector or private sector and grow the economy. it is such shortsighted thinking. we we don't to increase deficit for a year but instead we are going to increase it for 50 years because we have young people that never learned skills. >> this is a show where occasionally people can lose their tempers. >> i'm losing it. >> as well you should. jonathan, go ahead. >> every time you said -- everything you said makes sense is right and true. but the other half of the

equation is to get folks to re -- folks here in washington to reprioritize are going to have to convince them that it makes more sense to spend the money now on these worthwhile efforts than to spend money later and as we know in this city, no one wants to hear about more spending or even consistent spending. they want to talk about cutting spending. how do you convince particularly the republicans who now roll -- now control the house that this is the right thing to do? >> well, part of our initiative is to be focused for one, less on inside baseball and more on constituency building. we need to get a million people to sign the petition at ourtime.org and notion of getting a million people to stand up for something, you had people who have talked about change.org on this show. when a million people signed the petition to remove the bank of america fees, it worked. politicians at the end of the day, if you get a big enough constituency are accountable -- >> human pack model.

>> all about sag gating strength and numbers and leveraging our numbers to put initiative in motion so the candidates have to come to us and say if we ignore you we are blatantly ignoring the interest of our constituents. they can't continue that in good faith. >> i would -- jonathan, just to chime in here, washington for some reason has abvolunte, it i expenditure, at a time when there is a massive difference that -- and it can be -- not every investment pays off but they can be differentiated and i think what you are talking about is a from us ration with the willingness to spend on expenditures but absolutely no commitment to investor even -- make the distinction. >> in the private market, we make an investment and we see there is going to be a large roi. i'm saying not just me, seven

independent credible studies said for every one dollar invested in americorps 195 is the output due to public benefit to the community and private benefit to the individual. so let's have a strong roi which is almost 2-1 as opposed to just saying let's not put for -- we are completely austerity. >> and then just toxification. >> do you have any bipartisan is port, politicians in washington? is there anybody onboard with the idea right now? also, what can people at home watching now, where should they be doing and joining in? >> imogen, i love that last question. ourtime.org. we know for a fact governor romney, who has been very supportive of service, at least in one it ratiteration of his l.

americorps has a strong history of bipartisanship. john mccain was a champion a, h ted kennedy. this is an issue not until recently paul ryan wanted to cut americorps from the budget has been seen as the vantage point. it is insane the idea of serving your country in a needed area in teaching, disaster relief is seen to be -- >> expenditure. >> as well as a partisan effort. these are young people who want to get involved and do something for the betterment of the world. and the country. >> it strikes me the only group that i feel like we talked to on the show that is so consistently on it is the returning veterans who are on the -- basically -- between the -- >> military loves this. >> between the returning veterans who understand that it is -- investment and an expenditure and the youth and the university culture who i think will -- i think that is a very powerful political ali alignment for these types of issues for both political parties. well presented. thank you. >> thank you.

>> check it out. not only video but the petition for a million jobs and million service jobs in this country at ourtime.org. thanks for being part of the show. >> my pleasure. >> thanks for the mega panel. up next, we check in on our favorite baby eagles. the old youtube or you stream or you watch. the eagles, by the way, not so little anymore. aspirin, really?

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today with a couple of the pioneers in this world. frank moss and sebastian thrun. google fellow and founder of udacity, high level course online. people confuse a lot of with this is the internet teaching or had is this and that. tell us how it is that what you learned about -- what have we learned about the brain and how is -- our understanding of the brain and at the center of all of this new teaching? >> i think you are totally right. brain learns from being -- trying things out by i have a 4-year-old son experimenting all day. somehow the way they teach in colleges, teach lectures, talking down on people. what we are trying to do is have this website, online college. they can take college level classes and be confronted with fascinating puzzles you have to solve. and we won't show thank you answer. we show thank you answer after you tried it so you are perceptive what we think the right answer was. >> frank, when did we figure

this out? obviously a way we all went to school was in a different paradigm which was largely rote memorization, age desegregation. when did the sort of brain research we are seeing apply to -- even come to be known? >> centuries ago, dylan. i think if you look at europe or artists and how they were mentors to their apprentices, they -- inspired them with problems. they worked in groups, painting or sculpture or work of art, they realized through that process of 'prenticeship, building and learning, growth occurred. this is really decades old. it has been realized and manifested more recently in places and you have a book in brooklyn today, third ward, great little outfit where you provide this environment and where freelance people can come in from the local area and they can use machines and build, create and work and work together. it is not really all about the

technology as much as about the relationship between masters and apprentices and this build and learn cycle. that really is at the core of education. >> really what prank is talking about, sebastian the culture of learning more than the rules and resources of learning, explain to us the cultural response at stamford, these practices and why you think the culture is a little bit -- places anyway hesitant to -- at least doesn't now how to do more of it even if it wants to. >> i think that -- this has been on for a long time. really good teachers do a lot of this. i think that the latest new thing can be done at scale. instead of doing this one-on-one with one gray instructor and one great student, five great students, you can -- 100,000 students at the same time. more technology, internet. next generation of online education, online classes, nothing to do with internet teaching the way we do it. all to do with setting up

puzzles and games and interesting stuff kids can go crazy about. >> if you were to look at the cost to these -- in other words, if there was -- absorb this model, like how expensive is what you are doing compared to traditional teaching, sebastian? >> so first the cost for any one student was 60 cents per class. this is about three orders of magnitude less than what it costs. the reason is, regular college you pay a lot for the professor's salary, number one cost. they don't scale that well because view student ratio 1 to 30 or one to 40. one to 100,000, you can turn the content, class itself into a high-quality production. very similar to the way movies are high quality productions. >> i see you are nodding in agreement here. >> i'm a huge fan of online learning. and i think that the ability to scale and bring the quality of great teachers and many different kinds of great teachers to students everywhere

is terrific. i think that we shouldn't ignore the fact technology itself doesn't deal with relationship between the teacher and the student itself. you can create a great consumer online site but if the product you are selling are not great you can reach billions but you don't have a great product. i think we have to also think about the relationship between teachers and students and have it evolve more to a teacher or mentor apprentice kind of rich. where our teachers are taught to enable their students to take risk. to fail and to learn and to iterate. we can take that to the web and billions. between can't ignore the technology itself other than technology medical records can cause health and decrease the cost -- >> culture defined by human beings acting with each other, period. >> i think it is defined by relationships between human beings and i think that in the world of education, we have to think more in terms of mentor apprentice and teachers taking responsibility for working with students and teaching them this process of learning and trying

and to taking risk and failing. of course we can scale that. that's terrific. >> mentor apprentice thing seems like it would be awful lot of more fun than teaching to the task. i rather be a teacher with a team of people that was -- as much learning from them as they for me than making them memorize something. >> couldn't agree more. the truth is that we are still figuring all of this out. that's the beginning of an era. not the end. as we -- it is remarkable that the is amazing amounts of interaction between students. you don't have to teach -- teach spend meaningful time with the student. it turns out even a class of 10,000 students doesn't generate 10,000 original questions. finding the important ones and come back to the students and say here is what the teacher says. the students by and large actually are very, very happy about this. it is free. so maybe expectations are not high. learning results are significantly better than what i achieved in class teaching my

sfwlefl. >> you both taught me and inspired me. i appreciate your sharing -- your work publicly and not just with me but with the audience here. thank you both. >> congratulations on a great run. >> thank you. >> it has been a pleasure to be with you. >> yeah. thank you. i will see you in california. sebastian will have to teach me some things. i will see new boston. i have a lot of learn do. coming up, fast and furious, resolution on contempt moves on to the house. vote expected next week. more on that when "hardball" takes over. imogen lloyd webber turns the table on me and her rant after this. math and science initiative... ...which helped students and teachers get better results in ap courses. together, they raised ap test scores 138%. just imagine our potential... ...if the other states joined them. let's raise our scores. let's invest in our teachers and inspire our students. let's solve this.

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now here is imogen lloyd

webber. turning the tables, i hear, not rant. >> this will be my last rant and you a pier answer on dylan's show. i'm incredibly grateful to him, steve friedman and d.r. show team for an extraordinary year. i learned about everything from the demand important a new european marshal plan to tweeting pens. i failed at spelling bee and allowed to quote churchill, ask wear a union jack t-shirt and santa hat on air. there's one thing i have been unable to do until now. turn the tables on my host. thanks to james lipton and the studio, dylan. what is your favorite word? >> imagine. >> what's your least favorite word? >> can't. >> what turns you on creatively, spiritually or emotionally? >> people who can realize what they a

thermage inning turn me on. people who can take incoming criticism, which i have not been so great at, at times, and respond with calmness as opposed to emotion and impress me. i aspire to that. >> okay. what turns you off creatively, spiritually or -- >> objective sessions or object rejections. belief that possession or rejection of a given object or possession will result in satisfaction which i believe is a lie. there is a huge difference in wanting and happen. >> what sound or noise do you love? >> i mean -- you know, many -- the sound of the earth. the -- the ocean the and mountain -- sound of the earth is my favorite. >> what sound or noise do you hate? >> there has been a backhoe in knew front window because they are doing construction on north moore and i can't sleep because there is a crane that comes on at 6:00 a.m. every morning. >> what profession, other than your own right now, would you

like to attempt? >> farming. >> farming? >> farm. >> okay. what profession would you not like to do? >> anything that makes me bend over. i have a bad back. so -- baseball catcher or like a migrant worker. the problem, my back problems, are barrier to my whole farming ambitions but i will work it out. i will get a support brace. >> if you run for political office, what would your slogan be? >> anybody who watched the program has an awareness and so i would say that politically for me the only way i could even enter the posture with the theater, you know, everyone wants to know about what you did this and did you do that and have you been here, so i would have to go with yes, i did would be my -- yes, i did. yes, i did would be my slogan. then you can say yes, i did. now let's talk about it. as opposed to -- right now, did you, didn't you is a whole argument about whether you did. pretend they didn't but i know i

did. >> if heaven exists what would you like to hear god say when you arrive at the pearly gates? >> two things. i would like -- good effort. i think really that i'm looking for is good effort. good effort, ratigan. well done. and -- you know, something really nice for you to giving imogen lloyd webber an opportunity to be on tv. i really like her. it is an offset. even if i did, yes, i did. but i also, you know, did this. and that. >> i have to say a big thank you. so thank you, dylan. good luck. >> congratulations on your success up to this point. and i'm sure the bright horizon is ahead for you as well. nice to have you here. >> thank you, dylan. >> thank you. imogen lloyd webber. that will do it for us. i am dylan ratigan. "hardball," i will enjoy these last couple much seconds. i don't have a lot of them, starts right now.

president obama stands up to house republicans. let's play some "hardball." good evening. leading off tonight, executive privilege president president obama invoked it for the first time. the failed gun enforcement operation called fast and furious. late tonight the same republicans voted to recommend holding attorney general holder in contempt of congress which holder called an extraordinary, unprecedented and entirely unnecessary action. the president's move adds fuel to an already red hot fire. we will get into that at the top of the program. and it is the question that makes or breaks presidents who are running for re-election. are you better off now than you were four years ago? we have surprising new poll numbers th