about what this means. more importantly, egypt has elected its first islamist president. they have for the first too many a leader that will be from the muslim brotherhood. we understood that neighboring countries have begun to call and congratulate morsi, he himself says he will resign as head of the freedom and justice party, the muslim brotherhood's political wing and going to work with all egyptians in appointing a prime minister that represents the secular liberal forces of the country. no doubt, the atmosphere in egypt after a tense week has now changed almost instantly to one of celebration here in tahrir square. >> give us the rundown on morsi. who is he? what is all of this going to mean for the refer solutifor th that country? >> surprisingly, he wasn't the first choice of the muslim brotherhood. they wanted to appoint somebody else as the candidate. that candidate was disqualified

by the elections commission. mohammed morsi, a senior member of the muslim brotherhood. he studied in the united states, his two children are actually u.s. citizens. a well respected figure within the organization. he is considered slightly on the conservative side, but since being nominated, he says he'll work with all political forces. is he by many people's accounts, a very pragmatic individual, but no doubt, many people concerned by some of the ideas he has put forth when it comes to social issues here in the country. but the muslim brotherhood in general, like dr. morsi, demonstrated a sense of pragmatism that sometimes has angered egyptians because they have dealt with the military council and distanced themselves from youth of the revolution, at the same time, many people feel they are most politically organized and the strongest political force on the ground and that is particularly why they still enjoy a great deal of support among many people here.

>> we all read and heard what the parliament there did to the presidency in egypt a few days ago. how is that going to affect morsi? >> reporter: the muslim brotherhood and many say they won't end the protests until the military council hand over complete power of the country to both a civilian parliament, elected but resolved and now a civilian president. many angered and concerned by what they describe as a soft coupe. t coup. the question, to what extent will the new president challenge the military to reclaim some of the powers? ease praised the judiciary, but the egyptian judiciary have given important decisions against the civilian leadership of this country, including the muslim brotherhood and the

muslim breer hood dominated parliament, dissolved last week? >> have the demonstrations been peaceful? massive people. there are concerns for several days that would erupt in violence is that the case, or are they peaceful for the most part? >> the bigst threat right now to the people behind me is the scorching heat. ambulances have been deployed around the area. no doubt, a lot of heat exhausti exhaustion. all week long, egypt on edge, a great deal of anxiety and tension, the military for its part, remaining clear from the area, don't want to have confrontation with the people, for the most part it is a celebratory atmosphere, no major fear of violence at this point. ayman, thaw so much. appreciate it. be safe as well. we'll talk about what all of this means for relations with this country. we'll talk to the former u.s.

ambassador to morocco at the bottom of the hour. our other big developing story right now, tropical storm debby has the entire gulf coast on alert, much of the gulf coast is under a tropical storm warning right now, debby lashing it with wind and rain. big questions, when will it make landfall and will it hit hurricane status? carl parker has more from atlanta. >> still a great deal of uncertainty about where this storm is going to end up. but impacts being felt in florida. the latest on the storm. it's now moving very slowly off to the north at about 6 miles an hour. winds 60 miles an hour officially. pressure 994. a mid grade tropical storm. as of the 10:00 a.m. central advisory, we look at the visible satellite picture. you can see the naked circulation as we say. thunderstorms not wrapping about the center, but located off to the east. that's where all the weather is, the heavy rain, and the wind and certainly the waters being piled

up here. we're seeing a lot of wave action coming into northern florida and the northern gulf coast in particular. that's not going to change much through today. ultimately, the storm could move to the west or the east. one of our very reliable global models wants to take it to the north and west and toward louisiana, a very reliable model wants to move it off toward the north and east, and a lot of models in this camp. for now, the official forecast from the national hurricane center, taking it more west, but that could change, still a great deal of uncertainty about where the storm is going to end up ultimately. back to you. >> carl, thank you so much from atlanta. a live report from florida on the preparations for that storm in ten minutes, we'll talk to weather channel's mike seidel. front page politics now. new today, the chair of the house oversight and government reform committee, demanding that the justice department release the documents related to the fast and furious investigation, while stopping short of accusing the white house of a coverup.

>> do you have any evidence that white house officials were involved in these decisions that they knowingly misled congress and are involved in a coverup? >> no, we don't, and what we're seeking are documents we know to exist, february 4th through december, that are, in fact, about brian terry's murder, who knew, and why people were lying about it, and get to the truth. that's all we want. >> the ranking democrat on the oversight committee is also weighing in today on the documents. president obama used executive privilege to withhold from the committee. >> i think with regard to getting these documents, we are on the one foot line of a field. and i -- i have absolutely no doubt that speaker boehner showed strong leadership i know he will, we can sit down, work this out with the attorney general and move on. >> joining me now from more front page politics, editor for roll call, david drucker and ann

cornblum. we heard there is no evidence of a white house coverup, we heard that from congressman issa. is it all purely political, driven by the gop? >> i don't want to question anyone's motives, but in an election year, it's a fair question to ask. it's fair for the other side to question politicking. that could have hammered a resolution by now look, u.s. a very partisan, very touchy issue, and it will drive both bases crazy, which is why it's inflamed. >> we could see as early as tuesday contempt charges on eric holder. will we get to that point? or will there be a resolution before that? >> it depend on whether or not

republicans can get enough guarantees for information that will satisfy them. there is a deep concern about the fast and furious issue and brian terry's death. they have been after this investigation for over a year, so not just in an election year, and they are not just going to go quietly, because for a lot of these guys, even though there is clearly a motive, this is something they care deeply about. >> this is a beltway issue? and by that, i mean, do average folks, john q. six pack in middle america, does he understand fast and furious, and does he really care about it in an election year? >> that is a great question. i think up until now, it's been

completely a beltway issue. people don't have time for washington scandals, they think basically washington politicians are all the same when it comes to not being very perfect. i think, thgh, that since the president invoked executive privilege, we've seen this get wider media coverage, beyond the beltway press. are you seeing it on the nightly newscasts. it could get out there, how it plays, though, we don't know. it could be a problem for republics, perceived as being too political, and the president perceived as hiding something now that he has gotten involved by invoking the privilege. >> listen to what congressman isiah said a few hours ago on "meet the press." >> the attorney general has given 80,000 documents to the inspector general, and of the 7,600 documents we asked for, some of them are not pertinent and many are completely redacted. let's understand, we want answers to specific questions.

>> going back to what david said as well, how much did the executive order change the arc of this story? first of all, it's historic any time a president invokes executive privilege it brought president obama more directly into this. and they argue they are well within rights and not the first administration to apply executive privilege to e-mailsor conversations that weren't directly involving the president. these are internal justice department documents we're talking about. it's one of the reasons we're talking about it here. but david is also right that a story that involves guns crossing the border, an officer who died in the process, is going to resonate deep well a lot of members of congress and people who are involved in the law enforcement community. i don't think it will take much, and certainly when you have executive order, it is going to happen for wider attention to be grabbed on this. >> and while i have you here, i would be remiss if i didn't ask

you about the front page investigation today in your paper that we have all read and been talking about here. a great deal this morning, about how members of congress allegedly trade stocks with information they have about pending legislation. frankly, it is all a bit infuriating and reminds us of what happened several months ago. for folks who haven't read the article, give a quick snippet of what it is about. >> this is an ongoing issue, an ongoing investigation, in fact, and previous incarnation, the charges and what was uncovered were that members were perhaps potentially acting on insider information they had. >> how many members are we talking here? >> actually i don't have the exact count in front of me, but lots. they passed something called the stock act, and that hasn't stopped them from being able to trade stocks on issues before their committees, companies that

have business before congress and that's still ongoing and what they took a look at and this is something that isn't true for the rest of government, no matter how legal it is, and it's perfectly legal, it's happening in plain sight, it's the kind of thing that doesn't sit very well with voters, the question becomes should members of congress turn over all of their assets to a blind trust when they are elected. should they be able to continue to trade on issues on stocks they overseem. >> blind trust for all members of congress, that sounds like something that makes a great deal of sense to me. >> it makes a great deal of political sense, if i were running for congress, if i were a member of congress to be safe politically, i would turn assets and trading over to a blind trust. but this is the kind of thing that you are going to run into when you have government that oversees many industries, busy legislating and you have many

members of congress that have 401 kfrps and do you want them completely divorces from decisions that every day americans have to make. it's a dilemma, and i don't know if there is a way to solve it. >> we can agree on the fact that once again, raises the issue of people who benefit from the system can be trusted to inform the same system. always a pleasure. thank you so much for spending your sunday afternoon with us. right now, most of the gulf coast states are under a tropical storm warning, forecasters are telling residents to be on alert at this point. no one knows where debby will land. it could hit hurricane status in the next day. mike seidel live in florida, where the west coast and parts of the panhandle are now being pelted with rain, and we can see, mr. sidle has on the goggles which is never a good sign. >> well, you know, the rain is

coming right at me, craig. we've been battered by squalls all morning, gusts up to 35. 2 1/2 inches of rain. dangerous rip current and coastal flood warning, even with that and the red flags, with very people in the water, luckily only up to their waist. if they get pulled out, there is no one out here as far as lifeguard that will pull them to safety. we're keeping an eye on those people. the beach going away too. beach erosion picked up, the water comes in, here comes the water up into my ankles, takes the sand out. now, not much beach left. about 10 or 15 feet. in fact, yesterday, they tried to have a wedding on the beach. they moved it inside. didn't have enough real estate. all the heavy rain taking sand from near the buildings into the water. so we're getting hit from both directions from beach erosion. we're under a tornado warning until 8:00 this evening, debby turning to the northeast. texas looking like it won't get hit. we'll keep an eye on louisiana, mississippi, and even florida.

the jury is still out. but signs are, it's going to turn more east and may actually hit florida in the next couple of days, not etched in stone. but a lot of wind, rain and surge. back to you. >> thank you. the story of jerry sandusky's victims did not end with a verdict friday night. we'll talk to an attorney of one of the victims who tells us what will happen next. the in-strategy talk. is there one side that can't lose no matter what? the supreme court decides on the health care law. we'll decide former governor and dr. howard dean, plus the former bush aide as well. ♪

♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] we believe you're at your best when you can relax and be yourself. and at thousands of newly refreshed holiday inn hotels, you always can. holiday inn. stay you. and now stay rewarded with vacation pay. stay two weekend nights and get a $75 prepaid card.

and nowcuban rewarded with vacation pay. cajun raw seafood pizza parlor french fondue tex-mex fro-yo tapas puck chinese takeout taco truck free range chicken pancake stack baked alaska 5% cashback. signup for 5% cashback at restaurants through june. it pays to discover. in here, every powerful collaboration is backed by an equally powerful and secure cloud. that cloud is in the network, so it can deliver all the power of the network itself. bringing people together to develop the best ideas -- and providing the apps and computing power to make new ideas real. it's the cloud from at&t. with new ways to work together, business works better. ♪

two big developments in the jerry sandusky case today. sandus sandusky's lawyers revealed they tried to quit at the start of jury selection, saying they weren't given enough time to prepare their case. the judge denied their request. the lawyers say it went too trial too fast which could be the basis of their appeal. also, a penn state university has issued a statement, saying their lawyers will reach out to the attorneys for the victims, to try to settle any civil lawsuits as quickly as possible. victim number five, testified that jerry sandusky sexually abused him in the penn state campus shower. joining me, tom cline, the attorney for victim number five. thank you for joining me. >> nice to be here. >> first of all, i imagine it's a wirhirlwind since friday nighs guilty verdict. how is he doing? >> it has been a whirlwind of emotion.

he is now relieved this on is over, but this doesn't bring life back to normal. this trial, the grand jury investigation, the investigation that brought him into this swirl of deceit by mr. sandusky out of the public has caused turmoil in his life. he has a loving family, a loving girlfriend and they are helping him get through this. >> has penn state reached out to you and your client yet? >> i have had discussions with penn state lawyers well before this trial, they have told me that they had planned to have this kind of reach out. it didn't come unexpected to me. and i would expect them to reach out further. my view, however, is that we need to see the report of the former fbi director, louis friess, which has been promised many we want to evaluate it, see exactly what it says and see how far reaching the conduct was.

>> you called penn state -- you called mr. sandusky an enabler. there is a report that penn state reached out to victims to settle this quickly. when you talk about enabler, that claim going to center solely on penn state's failure to respond to serious sex abuse allegations, or will there be more? >> we'll see where the road t e takes us. penn state was the enabler. i said for many months, mr. sandusky was the perpetrator, and penn state was the enabler. this trial, this criminal trial, we learned that literally by the time my young man, when he was a young boy, was assaulted, everyone from the janitor to the president of the university knew. and that is going to take a thorough investigation, we know

that this runs deep and correspond ro corrosive. we need to determine all of the facts. penn state admitted as much. these lawsuits are not just about compensation, they are about accountability. we need to have an accounting, a public accounting. this is important and goes far beyond penn state. it goes into the board room of every board of trustees at every university from lock haven, pennsylvania, down the road to harvard. >> how much are you going to be asking for in the civil suit? >> we're not asking for any particular amount. you can't plead for a specific amount under our pennsylvania rules. i am interested, first and foremost, as is my client, in accountability and full justification. deep in the soul, the young man represents, we saw it in his

tearful eyes when he testified before this jury, we're looking to the civil litigation as a mechanism, the full complete truth. we are private prosecutors in this case. >> mr. klein, one of the things that struck me and struck a lot of folks, listening to the trial and after the verdict was read, the thinking that there are a lot more -- a lot more victims out there, at this point, any indication how many more victims we're talking about? >> publicly, we know there were documents filed during the discovery leadup, where mr. sandusky's lawyers were conducting discovery and got significantly more by the way in any criminal trial known to me in pennsylvania and they filed an interesting document asking the attorney general of pennsylvania for the information that they -- the attorney general has on victims 11 to 20.

we know there are that many and we know about matt sandusky. i believe the attorney general's office has done just a marvelous job in sorting through all of the information they had. they were ten for ten in ten cases prosecuted against mr. sandusky. you have to keep in mind mr. sandusky didn't win one verdict from mr. sandusky. ten separate claims and they went 45-48 and the claims, 10-10. a 94% batting average. and i'm sure while i have no first hand knowledge, i've seen them first hand. i was at every lick of the trial and i'm quite sure that's how they are sifting through this, very carefully. >> tom klein, attorney for victim number five. thank you for your time. >> my pleasure to be here. right now, number five on

our list of trending stories this hour. lolo jones came in third in the 100 meter hurdles yesterday in oregon. not her first trip to the olympics. she entered beijing as one of the favorites before tripping over the second to last hurdle and finishing seventh. [ donovan ] i hit a wall. and i thought "i can't do this, it's just too hard." then there was a moment. when i decided to find a way to keep going. go for olympic gold and go to college too. [ male announcer ] every day we help students earn their bachelor's or master's degree for tomorrow's careers. this is your moment. let nothing stand in your way. devry university, proud to support the education of our u.s. olympic team. devry university, proud to support the education it's time to live wider awake.

only the beautyrest recharge sleep system combines the comfort of aircool memory foam layered on top of beautyrest pocketed coils to promote proper sleeping posture all night long. the revolutionary recharge sleep system... from beautyrest. it's you, fully charged. hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs ] so how did it go? he's upset. [ male announcer ] spend less time at gas stations. with best in class fuel economy. it's our most innovative altima ever. ♪ it's our most innovative altima ever. between taking insulin and testing my blood sugar... is this part of your life? freestyle lite test strips? why, are they any... beep! wow, that hardly needs any blood!

yeah... and the unique zipwik tab targets the blood and pulls it in. so easy. freestyle lite needs just a third the blood of onetouch ultra. really? yep, which is great for people who use insulin and test a lot. max and i are gonna run out and get them right now. or you can call or click today and get strips and a meter free. test easy.

welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." i'm craig melvin. alex is off. breaking news. live pictures out of egypt. word of a new president is drawing a huge emotional response from tens of thousands in tahrir square. this video captures crowd reaction as month ma'am heas mohammed morsi is declared the winner. surprisingly, he now says he will quit the muslim brotherhood. there is question what kind of

impact this will have, not just in the middle east, but in the west as well. joining me now in studio, former ambassador, former white house middle east adviser as well. marc ginsberg. we should note, studio in d.c. ambassador ginsberg, let me get your reaction to hearing that morsi is going to quit the muslim brotherhood. what too we make of that? >> i suspect what he is trying to do is differentiate his particular brand of politics from the brotherhood which is shall we say, less than overwhelmingly supported by the significant plurality of egyptians. this election was close, and he is trying to se ing send a sign national community and to egyptians that didn't vote for him, he won't necessarily be captive of the muslim brotherhood heedleadership. >> how will this shape the relationship between egypt and this country? >> the muslim brotherhood sweep,

in the parliamentary elections, sends a very cold shiver up the spine of israel, and the future condition of the camp david accords. the brotherhood, an an t antagonistic group, how they deal with the brotherhood will have a great deal with what happens with the united states. >> what can we make of how they've dealt with the accord in the past? >> listening to the speeches over the course of this campaign, we have to be very careful of understanding what he says in english, to americans, and what he has said in arabic to his own followers. he said pretty spiteful things about the brotherhood as well as israel, and the brotherhood's charter, no matter how much it

differentiates itself, is pretty virulently anti semitic and anti israel. whether he become as a moderate and evolves to become, shall we say, more americanized, based on his own background of being an american educated individual will depend greatly on who he is taking orders from. taking orders from the vast majority of a pluralistic egypt or the brotherhood's top leadership? >> do we think president obama will reach out and congratulate him? >> i suspect it will happen. president obama is calling on generals to stop interfering with the freedom of election in egypt. it's important to understand, craig, that the president's own powers, that of presidential powers, not defined yet. a constitution need to be drafted and a parliament dissolved that needs to be re-elected. he may be president in statute

only, powers yet to be defined. we don't know if the generals will give him the leeway he and his followers would like. >> thank you for your insight, sir. >> good to be with you, craig. >> in today's "then and now," gasoline shortage of 1979. you remember that. a sharp cutback caused severe gasoline shortages in the spring and summer of that year. customers limited to ten gallons of gas at the pumps. those lines, the result. here is jessica savage anchoring "the nbc nightly news" 30 years ago. >> this was the driest weekend ever for motorists in the northeast. they urged drivers to stay home and save fuel for getting to work. as georgette bennett reports, most motorists in the new york area have no choice but to do just that.

>> reporter: people changed their plans for sunday outings today. most gasoline stations in the new york area were closed. the ones that were open, gas lines of up to three miles. people with gas in their cars, didn't seem to be going anywhere. roads like route 80 were almost empty. >> fast toward to this spring. word of another possible gas shortage for a very different reason. a wave of refinery closures on the east coast sparked fears that drivers could face higher prices this summer. for now, gas prices headed south and could hit -- could hit -- $3 a gallon by fall. don't take it with food. switch to citracal maximum plus d. it's the only calcium supplement that can be taken with or without food. that's why my doctor recommends citracal maximum. it's all about absorption.

thawith covergirl laslast.mends citracal maximum. big brush. big volume. full impact. lashblast mascara -- olympic games edition. i'm strong. i'm beautiful. i am a covergirl. ♪

our cloud is made of bedrock. concrete. and steel. our cloud is the smartest brains combating the latest security threats. it spans oceans, stretches continents. and is scalable as far as the mind can see. our cloud is the cloud other clouds look up to. welcome to the uppernet. verizon. >> ♪ >> that's a love song right

there. that's a love song. type for strategy talk. may not be a lot of love for president obama from congress and the supreme court. as early as tomorrow, the supreme court will announce its ruling on the president's signature health care reform law, and congress could go to a floor vote on contempt charges for attorney general eric holder, for his role in fast and furious. joining me now, tony fratta and howard dean. good afternoon to both of you. >> hi. >> tony, let's start with fast and furious, listen to this. from oversight chairman darryl issa, an interview a few hours ago. take a listen. >> do you have any evidence that white house officials were involved in these decisions that they knowingly misled congress and are involved in a coverup? >> no, we don't. we are seeking documents we know to exist, february 4th to december that are, in fact,

about brian terry's murder, who knew and why -- why people were lying about it and get to the truth. that's all we want. >> all right. you heard it. no evidence of a coverup. why then keep pressing? why for republicans, why risk overplaying your hand? >> we go back to the very same questions in the bush administration which i dealt with closely. that dealt with the doj decisions to fire a number of attorneys, craig. the difference here, it's really important to understand the distinction here, what the republican congress is after here. these are communications, the kinds of communications that never been protected by executive privilege before. doj-to-doj deliberations, not white house deliberations, and if the press event is any guide, i suspect they will end upturning over the communications, what the white house is really trying to do here, is run out the clock as much as possible and extend this out, hopefully past the election

day. >> governor dean, that the strategy as you understand it from the white house? >> my guess is, there is a lot of intelligence information in t the discussions. who is darryl issa, a ridiculous figure in the congress. this is republican overreach. nobody in america thinks this is serious and darryl issa, well-known hatchet guy, doing stuff like this for years this is much ado about nothing and health care is what we'll spend our time talking about this week. >> let's talk about health care, governor dean. many political watchers have said that this coupotentially b a win/win for the president. either it is held up, and he's a winner, or it gets struck down, and he can say the republicans took away your health care.

can the administration spin any scenario? >> i had not heard that from the white house, but i came to that conclusion myself a couple of weeks ago, the mandate is very unpopular, never necessary. a mistake to do it in the first place. if it gets overturned, that's the big thorn. without the mandate, most americans do not think this bill should be repealed. if they repeal the mandate, that's good. if they repeal the whole bill, it's true that the president gets to beat up on the court, so forth and so on, it's not i good thing -- >> governor, you said something that you said before. the mandate is a bad idea. i want to ask you about that, without the mandate, this really isn't much of a health care overhaul, is it not? >> total, complete nonsense. i can't imagine why everybody in washington thinks this way. they are completely out of touch. we did what is talked about as a guaranteed issue 20 years ago in vermont. the lousy insurance companies left vermont. good ones stayed. this was never a good idea. this is academics in front.

thought this was necessary, with no real practical experience and this was insurance companies that wanted it. a lousy idea, it's a lousy idea politically and not necessary for the bill to function. and one of the biggest mistakes the obama administration made when they were arguing before the supreme court, to argue this was an essential part of the bill. possible that justice kennedy, who i felt would turn down the mandate, let the rest of the bill go, will be the fifth vote to get rid of the issue and community ratings. that would be a harmful thing to the american people in my view. the machine datndate, an enormo political mistake. and written by someone who i like a lot but used to work for the insurance companies. >> tony, a poll came out, and i don't have it in front of me, but the crux of it was when you ask folks do you like the health care law, they say no. when you ask them about specific provisions in the health care

law, some like specific provisions. what does that say about how this was sold to the american public? >> i don't think that has changed much over the course of the last 2 1/2 years, craig. fairly consistent, certain provisions of the law that the american people like. when they think about the law, the mandate which is unpopular and brings down support for the overall law, it's, you know, fails. that really has to factor into the thinking of both, you know, republicans and the romney campaign and democrats and the obama campaign. how tactically thee deal with the decisions that the supreme court comes down to. it's hard to separate those two views, so we're going to see what happens. we've never seen such an anticipated event in the middle of a presidential campaign. lots of unanticipated events, this is anticipated. we know that both campaigns have really word gamed they are playing for how to describe what

the supreme court does. we'll see who executes their strategy best. >> tony, thank you. and governor dean, one of the strongest skype signals on msnbc. now to standouts and success. today's lists of number ones, first, a new international poll on what breed of dog -- that's right, what breed of dog will help attract someone of the opposite sex. top dogs for women who want to get a man. golden retrievers, labrador retrievers number two chihuahuas number three, no one believes that. now the dog that will help men most get a date. german shepherds, followed by golden retrievers and labrador retrievers next. where botox rules. the vainest cities in america. "men's health" magazine came up with this list by looking at the prevalence cosmetic procedures.

tampa, florida, number one. plano, texas, number two. and the least vain city is des moines, iowa. vain or not, giselle bundchen's good looking raking in $45.5 million. she tops the latest list of the highest paid models. >> i am metadah, first born deced decent dent. >> brave," new top at the box office. that's a wrap at today's number ones, here on "weekends with alex witt." laces? really? slip-on's the way to go. more people do that, security would be like -- there's no charge for the bag.

thanks. i know a quiet little place where we can get some work done. there's a three-prong plug. i have club passes. [ male announcer ] get the mileage card with special perks on united, like a free checked bag, united club passes, and priority boarding. thanks. ♪ okay. what's your secret? [ male announcer ] the united mileageplus explorer card. get it and you're in. where tonight we switched their steaks with walmart's choice premium steak. it's a steakover!

it's flavorful. it's so juicy. the taste...it's fantastic. it's probably the best steak i've had. only one in five is good enough to be called walmart choice premium. tastes like a five star steak. tonight you were actually eating walmart steak. are you serious? wow. scrumdeliumcious. tomorrow will be the day i will buy walmart steaks. walmart choice premium steak in the black package. it's one hundred percent satisfaction guaranteed. try it and check us out on facebook. [ dog ]s one hundred percent we found it together.upbeat ] on a walk, walk, walk. love to walk.

yeah, we found that wonderful thing. and you smiled. and threw it. and i decided i would never, ever leave it anywhere. because that wonderful, bouncy, roll-around thing... had made you play. and that... had made you smile. [ announcer ] beneful. play. it's good for you. mcallen, texas. in here, heavy rental equipment in the middle of nowhere, is always headed somewhere. to give it a sense of direction, at&t created a mobile asset solution to protect and track everything. so every piece of equipment knows where it is, how it's doing or where it goes next. ♪ this is the bell on the cat. [ male announcer ] it's a network of possibilities -- helping you do what you do... even better. ♪ write now, some of the

republican party's rock stores are pow wowing with mitt romney in utah. many guests at romney's 2 1/2 day retreat in park city. among special gists, some potential vp picks, including tim pawlenty, rob partman, paul ryan, and bobby jindal. nbc campaign expert is in utah. >> reporter: this is a combination of old and new in the republican party. have you folks from the last two generations of the republican party. carl rove, a big presence, john mccain. and now some of the up and comers, paul ryan seen out and about. and speaking to some of the panels, john thune. a who's who of the potential vp list. >> a surprise standout yet? >> a little bit. we keep hearing from donors, condoleezza rice gave a keynote speech at yesterday's lunch and

stole the show. folks are saying that is one of the least expected, exciting speeches of the whole weekend. >> there you go, fanning the flames again. garrett, thank you so much, from park city, utah. now, number three on the first five web stories, killer killer asterroid huntings. the chance of a surprise collision with earth is less likely. almost 1,000 mountain side asseroids. any threat could be mitigated or eliminated by sending a probe into space to nudge an asseroid away from earth. welcome aboard! [ chuckles ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ]

♪ [ male announcer ] now you'll know when to stop. [ honk! ] the all-new nissan altima with easy fill tire alert. [ honk! ] it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ let's compare. germ party! eww! now the colgate total mouth. nice! [ female announcer ] colgate total fights 90% more plaque germs. i'm in. [ female announcer ] colgate total. less germs. healthier mouth. yoo-hoo. hello. it's water from the drinking fountain at the mall. [ male announcer ] great tasting tap water can come from any faucet anywhere. the brita bottle with the filter inside. support team usa and show our olympic spirit right in our own backyard. so we combined our citi thankyou points to make it happen. tom chipped in 10,000 points.

karen kicked in 20,000. and by pooling more thankyou points from folks all over town, we were able to watch team usa... [ cheering ] in true london fashion. [ male announcer ] now citi thankyou visa card holders can combine the thankyou points they've earned and get even greater rewards. ♪

a new gallup poll taking a look at american's views of

mormons. when it comes to a presidential candidate. what may surprise you, how little the public opinion has changed. we are joined now by a reporter from buzz feed politics, who is a mormon, along with 2% of the rest of the folks in this country. what did you find when americans likelihood to vote for a mormon president over the years? >> no change. >> no change? >> we first asked in 1967, because mitt romney's father, george romney, formed exploratory committee to run for president. 17% of americans said they wouldn't vote for an otherwise well qualified person that was a mormon. fast forward, we re-ask it, and now 18 me 818% say they won't v a mormon. resistance to a mormon has stayed virtually the same. >> when you separated by party what did you say?

>> democrats are significantly more likely to not vote for a mormon than republicans. we think it's because democrats know that mitt romney is running. >> you wrote a piece that looked at demographics least likely. what did you find? >> we found going over several studies that basically confirmed what gallup found which is that in 2012, self-identified liberals or democrats were less likely to vote for a mormon. although i suspect that if harry reid who is also a mormon was on the democratic ticket that might be switched around a little bit. >> we don't think this is so much an indictment by the democratic party of mormon i., as much as it is an indictment of mitt romney. >> i think a lot, but not all mind you, 40% of americans don't know that mitt romney is a mormon. a lot of democrats know we're talking about mitt romney. >> how much do we think -- how

much do we think his faith -- mitt romney's faith will matter to voters in november? >> i think it actually could matter a great deal. there was a fascinating study that came out of the university of sydney recently that showed that people's support of mitt romney, whether they planned to vote for him, were most closely tied of what they thought of mormonism. patriotic, et cetera. it was more closely tied than party identification or ideology. we don't talk about mormonism as much as some people think we should, i think in a lot of voter's minds that will be the deciding factor. >> how does this compare to what gallup saw for voters accepting an african-american president before 2008 or a catholic president back in the early 60s. when we were talking about john f. kennedy. >> 21% of americans in 1960 said this they wouldn't vote for an otherwise well-qualified

candidate that was a catholic. john kennedy was a catholic this kind of resistance isn't necessarily a deal killer for mitt romney. that's still a sizable hunk of voters so it has to he about a factor. >> thank you so much. reporter for buzz feed and frank newport, editor in chief of gallup, and said during the break, would you probably be quite the fascinating dinner guest. >> 16% of americans would agree with you. >> thank you, both, so much. appreciate that. office politics with martin bashir, what he told alex witt about one of wince ton churchill's favorite habits. of any small business credit card! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less? testing hot tar... great businesses deserve the most rewards!

[ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? here's your invoice. consider the journey of today's athletes. their training depends on technology. and when it takes a battery, there are athletes everywhere who trust duracell. they rely on copper to go for the gold. duracell. trusted everywhere. and soon...even more reason to trust duracell.

duralock power preserve. it locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. guaranteed. duralock. coming soon to every duracell battery. thin coffee shops. people who i thave been out of work. you can it locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. guaranteed. tell it wears on them. narrator: he's fought to pull us out of economic crisis for three years. and he still is. president obama's plan keeps taxes down for the middle class, invests in education and asks the wealthy to pay their fair share. mitt romney and his billionaire allies can spend milions to

distort the president's words. but they're not interested in rebuilding the middle class. he is. i'm barack obama and i and a good sunday to you. welcome to weekends with alex witt. i'm craig melvin. alex is off today. 1:00 in the east. 10:00 out west. here is what's happening right now. breaking news. shortly after winning the country's first free election,

the muslim brotherhood's candidate, mohammed morsi, quit the brotherhood this is leave picture showing tens of thousands celebrating in tahrir square. morsi won in a close election over the last prim minister of hosni mubarak. ayman monheldein on the ground. >> reporter: the sun is setting on tahrir square. people are poring in by the hundreds from the side streets. a short time before the announcement declaring morsi the winner. this was a very different scene. people were on the edge of their seats, waiting to hear who would become the next president. the country has been gripped by a great sense of anxiety and

tension over the last several weeks. some in particular because of a delay in the announcement of who would win, and some of it because of decisions made by the military council to retain some of those powers and strip them away from incoming presidents. >> ayman, reports that morsi quit the muslim brotherhood, that came less than an hour ago. a bit of a surprise. has there been any reaction on that front there? >> well, this was one of the most important promises that the candidate made when he was still a candidate, mohammed morsi made. the reason why, some of the egyptian voters were concerned and afraid. that the presidential candidate they felt that they controlled too much of the state's institutions, one of the promises he made, if he was elected, he would be a president for all egyptians and that he was going to be an independent

president. not beholden to one single party. not a surprise to egyptians that wanted to see him deliver on the promise. once he was announced the winner, he did resign from the freedom and justice party and the muslim brotherhood. not beholden to the exclusive interests of the muslim brotherhood. how that affects his presidential outlook will be tested with time. no doubt, a welcome sign by some of the president plit call forces here. >> the question remains, whether that move will be symbolic or substantive. before i let you get out of here, i enjoy getting your perspective on this. for folks who are watching at home who probably don't follow politics in that country as closely, why is all of this, why is the election this morn, why is it so important for egyptians? why is it so important for folks in this country? why is it so important for the world? >> well, if you take a big picture approach, egypt is a geopolitical heavyweight in this

region. it is the linchpin of u.s. interests in the middle east. suez canal which so much of the world's oil goes through. it's the arab's largest country, largest population. it's the epicenter of the arab world. how egypt plays out will have positive or negative ramifications on the rest of the world. egypt can make a successful transition no, doubt it will spill over, possibly to countries still going through their own transitions, including libya, tunisia and other countries. no doubt for ordinary egyptians, to some extent. this is the culmination of 16 months of revolution. for 60 years, the egyptian people have not been heard by their governments. now for the first time, they have elected their own leader, that's the significance. and now importantly, the real hard work begins.

in the eyes of many, the revolution to build a civil state away from military rule and islamic dominated politics, all of that will unfold in coming months and years. >> on the ground for us in egypt, i'm going to assume those are fireworks going off behind you and not gunshots? >> reporter: you're correct. >> thank you, sir. appreciate your time. at the half hour here, more insight from a middle east expert and former ambassador to egypt. what all of this means for relations with the west and relations with israel as well. and, of course, folks, get the very latest on the events in egypt as they unfold at msnbc know c msnbc.com. darryl issa defending the investigation into fast and furious, he responded to accusations that republicans are on a political witch hunt after they voted along power lines to

holder rick holder, attorney general, in contempt. >> some fights you pick this wasn't one. some fights come to you and you have to do what you have to do. in this case, you will have all the republicans, moderate and conservatives, saying we don't want to do this, but we will do it. >> and democrats voting with us. >> meanwhile, the top ranking democrat on the committee is also weighing in on documents that president obama used executive privilege to withhold on there the committee. elijah cummings is confident the situation can still be worked out. >> i think we have a duty, a duty to the american public. a duty to the united states, at this critical moment to get documents. i know we can get them. we can get those documents and the matter resolvedly. >> joining me now, political reporter for "the washington post," and political editor for pbs "news hour," christina.

thank you for being with me. >> great to be here. >> on fast and furious, congress could vote as early as tuesday to holderic holder in contempt. this will go away or go into a protracted ugly washington fight? >> that's the thing about these sorts of stories and washington. things rarely go away, and almost always get uglier. obviously, we'll see this vote next week. it will likely end in attorney general eric holder being charged with contempt against this congress. and then we'll be kicked back to the department of justice and referred to a lawyer here in d.c. the thing about the executive power and vocation you saw president obama do last week, that pretty much ends the legal implications. you will see the continuing discussion. the continuing idea of whether or not this is a white house that is stalling. you saw the parents, for instance, of brian terry, the border agent, you saw them

accuse the white house of lying and there will be a continued back and forth, trying to make some sort of deal, whether or not they can get some of these documents released, but i think, again, one of the things -- the questions that remains is whether or not people, just average voters in peoria, richmond, virginia, if they think fast and furious has anything at all to do with darryl issa, president obama, or they think it's a subpar action movie starring vin diesel. >> let's talk about the use of executive privilege on the matter. how much did that change the narrative here? does that turn the questions about fast and furious into bager deal? >> i don't think it turns into a bigger deal. it's important to look at them almost as two separate issues, the story about fast and furious, what happened, not only very interesting, but something bubbling along in more partisan media for white a long time until it exploded and started getting more attention and

something that could really last for a very long time as people continue to look into this. the contempt vote entirely political. have you a lot of these election year politics, where they are trying to embarrass the president on this. and are voters really paying attention? and the invoking of executive privilege invokes how many times george w. bush invoked executive privilege for his own questions. the fundamental story here should not get overlooked. that is something you will hear a lot more about. regardless of the vote on tuesday. eric holder not going anywhere. the president has expressed his confidence in him. >> let's talk about what will most likely be the bigger story in washington. the supreme court's health care decision expected no later than thursday, we could get it tomorrow. what's the prevailing buzz? what are you hearing? >> conventional wisdom is part

of this will essentially be a split decision for the white house. the individual map date will go down, but a lot of other provisions around health care, the preexisting conditions, allowing kids under 3 2 5 to remain on their parents' health care. those things will stand and you hear the white house saying that they are prepared, valerie jarrett in new orleans talking to a group of journalists, saying they are very much prepared for this. and mitt romney very much alerting reportersing he is ready to say something when this comes out. again, the question will be, what is the affect of this in terms of the political election coming up in november? how the president is going to be able to frame this? privately telling donors he can say he needs a second term, if this is struck down, he needs a second term to get this right again. the question for republicans what do they in do? this is this is struck down, the burden on them to come up with

an alternative plan, to give something most americans want, the idea of low-cost health care that doesn't bankrupt the economy. >> listen to marco rubio of florida, take a listen to what he said a few hours ago on "meet the press." >> he debate will continue. the health care law as currently structured, discouraging job creation and expansion of business in america. that issue will continue to face the laws of health and if the law is overturned, hopefully we have the majority and president obama will have to come up with a way to replace what obama care does. >> if the high court strikes down all or some of this law, is there going to be any political hill in the nation's capital to go anywhere near health care again? in the next five, ten, 15 years? >> that's a great question. and it's important to point out, we have no idea what the supreme court is going to do in the next

week it could very well stand. the white house has been very interesting, communicating they are prepared for a partial strike down as we just talked about. it's not know what will happen. everybody likes to use this as a political issue. you've seen the obama campaign do this by showcasing the stories of people helped by the preexisting conditions issue and by kids able to stay on their parents' health insurance longer. those are things you will continue to hear and regardless of what the court does, you will hear the president's team saying that mitt romney wants to do that. that is why you will hear surrogates like senator rubio say we need to address this in some ways. there were multiple attempts before president obama's law that this passed this is the farthest they went, and an interesting message, saying we this is something i might need to address. it gives people more reason to go out and work, make sure he is re-elect. >> one of the things that struck me as we await a decision here,

how convinced so many seem to be two years ago, all of this is totally constitutional. did the white house and supporters of the plan grossly underestimate the questions related to constitutionality? >> absolutely in many ways. i think initially when the whole republican effort to replace and repeal came out, most people, not only democrats, but pundits and reporters said it wasn't going anywhere. quite a moment of we are here now on the brink of this thing, possibly getting struck down by the supreme court. that in and of itself is a win for republicans, no doubt about that. >> thank you so much for joining us. thank you for your time this sunday afternoon. folks, we've given you some snippets, in a few moments we'll give you the whole thing. be sure to watch "meet the press" top of the hour. guests including congressman darryl issa and marco rubo.

most of the gulf coast states under a tropical storm watch due to a monstrous tropical storm debby. jim cantore live in pensacola, florida, where rain continues to come down. what's the latest? >> we had periods of very light rain. on the western edge of that rain and really from about the center on west, not much rain at all. it's just kind of wind action across the gulf. on the east side, been raining and severe weather. let me take you down to naples yesterday. we'll try to do this chronologically, to get an idea of what what's going on. an ef-1 tornado. ten homes had damage. trees down, power lines, these can produce tornadoes. a walk out in new port richey and other areas around the tampa bay. as we widen out, what i want to show you is the track forecast of debby overlaid with radar.

notice the track is off toward the west, while all the rain is on the east side. this is what we call a lopsided or east sided storm. what's interesting and models are trying to come to grips with, is the whole storm and the rain pretty much going to go east and that's going to be it? a lot of that thinking is coming around and saying yes. we're presaturating ground over florida. we have severe weather and bring in the low on top of that to exacerbate the problems. either way. the wind field is so big, we are kicking up huge surf like the surf you can see behind me here. huge waves running six to eight feet. all the way up to the edge of the dunes. that's why red flags are flying and everybody has to stay out of water, and they are heeding that. very dangerous surf out there. anded to stay out. probably for the next several days. the low really over the next 24 to 36 hours will not move that much and when it does it may go east and not west as the track

says. back to you. >> really quickly, let's talk about the speed with which this storm formed and what we can take from that in terms of reading the rest of the hurricane season, or is there? a correlation between the two? >> you know, craig, this is the earliest we've ever had four named storms before july 1st. that's never happened with historical records going back to 1850, we can't say, all right, this is a precipice for what will happen for the rest of the season. it doesn't work that way. >> okay. >> we may just shut things off from this point on. but if we trend this way, we're in for one heck of a season. we're ahead of 2005, in this we had 29 named storms. back to up. >> thank you, jim. it's always a pleasure. be safe down there. >> thank you, sir. up next, the most closely guarded secret in washington. when it comes out this week, what will it mean for and you health care. you're watching "weekends with alex witt." our cloud is not soft and fluffy.

our cloud is made of bedrock. concrete. and steel. our cloud is the smartest brains combating the latest security threats. it spans oceans, stretches continents. and is scalable as far as the mind can see. our cloud is the cloud other clouds look up to. welcome to the uppernet. verizon. your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans...

but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and they have six grams of sugars. with fifteen grams of protein to help manage hunger... look who's getting smart about her weight. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes.

this work week, we will find out the future of health care as early as tomorrow. the supreme court will announce its ruling on the landmark health care reform act. the key will be the individual mandate requiring most americans to carry health insurance. joining me, steven ingram, a former clerk to justice kennedy and a partner for deck eithert,. and a correspondent for health care journal. thank you for being here. steven, given your experience,

any indication of when we might hear this announcement? also, many suspect your former boss, justice kennedy could be the swing vote in a decision. based on your thorough working knowledge of the kennedy mind, which way will he swing? >> well, let's -- starting with what we do know, the court will take a recess by the end of this week. it hands down opinions in public sessions, currently, only one session scheduled for tomorrow morning, but it has two days worth of opinions to hahn down, so the expectation is that tomorrow the court will hand down some puns and will tell us when later in the week it will enter other decisions later in the week. if i had to bet, i would say the health care decision will be in the second session. >> perhaps thursday? >> exactly. >> your old boss, familiar more than most with the kennedy legal mind. if you were a betting man, how would you bet? >> not a betting man, so i think

i will have to pause. justice kennedy asked hard questions. four to his left, four to his right. it comes down to his vote. which way it's going to go, i'm like everybody else. >> i won't let you off the hook. i'll take a quick break and come back in just a moment. marg yo margo, polling shows most people are against the law, but support many of the provisions of the law. what does that say? >> well, i think people really don't know what is in this law. and very good polling shows that. same poll that shows do you like this or that provision, also asks them, do you know this or that provision. there are things that people think are in the law that aren't, like death panels and a

government run option. i think the discussion around the law has become a symbolic issue for a lot of people. they feel uncomfortable with the government being this involved in their lives in some way and dislike it in that way. but it's not an informed policy opinion. >> what do we know at this point about the republicans or mitt romney's alternative plan for that matter? >> so, you know, they have some ideas and all based around the idea they want to move more people to the individual market for insurance, because they think that if people can shop around for their own policies, they will be more prudent customers, insurers will have more incentive to provide lower cost options and want to do things that will encourage that, michael lowing insurance to be sold across state lines and give people who purchase individual policies the same kind of tax treatment that people who get insurance through their employers get. none of them are talking about the scale or ambition of affordable care act of trying to get insurance to everyone who doesn't have it or can't get it.

>> folks who are following this closely and folks who watch the court, the high court as well, made a great deal of justice kennedy's questioning during the oral arguments. there are a lot of folks that tried to read into some of the questions and the tone with which he asked of that question. based on questioning during this oral argument, what you think? >> i think we can take away from that that he had some serious questions. the government has a heavy burden in trying to regulate people. not only in the marketplace, but those who come into the mark place, it's never come into that. he asked hard questions for the challengers as well. and at the end of the day, these are just questions. we'll find out answer s soon. >> the commerce clause, one of the amendments that has been

more loosely interpreted over the years, and if the high court comes down and strikes the individual mandate does that also mean we're also going to enjoy a more narrow focus of the commerce clause specifically? >> i'm not sure that's correct. challengers, disappointed, it is something they have never done before. if the court holds, commerce cannot under the guys of interstate commerce compel people to come in, it's not obvious that's a decision that will have a lot of applications in the future this is really something that congress hasn't done before. >> margo, if it's struck down, all or part of it, what's next? >> i think in the immediate aftermath, not a whole lot will happen in congress. i think it's clear that members are not interested in reach iina

consensus. i think there will be questions about who will happen to seniors who purchase prescription drugs, and there are programs funded through the law that are longstanding programs with bipartisan support that could lose funding. some of those housekeeping issues. but in terms of kind of a new approach to health care reform, that's broad and far reaching, we're unlikely to see anything like that. and i think if the court strikes down part of the law, and there are problems that result from that, i wouldn't expect that to be resolved in the short term either. >> margo, thank you so much. steven, thanks as well. appreciate your time. >> thank you. in office politics, martin bashir on a key indicator overseas who might tell us who wins the white house in november. and, folks, we invite to you watch "the cycle" premieres tomorrow 3:00 eastern, right here on msnbc. should be a go ahead one. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool if we took the nissan altima

and reimagined nearly everything in it? gave it greater horsepower and best in class 38 mpg highway... ...advanced headlights... ...and zero gravity seats? yeah, that would be cool. ♪ introducing the completely reimagined nissan altima. it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ nissan. innovation that excites. we charge everything else... maybe it's time to recharge the human battery. only the beautyrest recharge sleep system combines the comfort of aircool memory foam layered on top of beautyrest pocketed coils to promote proper sleeping posture all night long. the revolutionary recharge sleep system from beautyrest... it's you, fully charged. get a free set of sheets when you buy a select beautyrest mattress. hurry, offer ends soon. ♪

♪ we all need it. to move. to keep warm. to keep us fed. to make clay piggies. but to keep doing these things in the future... at shell, we believe the world needs a broader mix of energies. that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. and it's also why, with our partner in brazil, shell is producing ethanol - a biofuel made from renewable sugarcane. ♪ >>a minute, mom! let's broaden the world's energy mix. let's go. laces? really? slip-on's the way to go.

more people do that, security would be like -- there's no charge for the bag. thanks. i know a quiet little place where we can get some work done. there's a three-prong plug. i have club passes. [ male announcer ] get the mileage card with special perks on united, like a free checked bag, united club passes, and priority boarding. thanks. ♪ okay. what's your secret? [ male announcer ] the united mileageplus explorer card. get it and you're in. ♪ i hear you... ♪ rocky mountain high ♪ rocky, rocky mountain high ♪ ♪ all my exes live in texas ♪ ♪ born on the bayou [ female announcer ] the perfect song for everywhere can be downloaded almost anywhere. ♪ i'm back, back in the new york groove ♪ [ male announcer ] the nation's largest 4g network. covering 2,000 more 4g cities and towns than verizon. rethink possible.

breaking news at the half hour. weekends with alex witt, these are live pictures out of egypt. word of a new president is drawing a huge emotional response from tens of thousands in tahrir square. we have seen the sun set the past few hours. we have not seen folks leave that square. the crowd roared earlier this morning when mohammed morsi, a conservative islamist, backed by the muslim brotherhood, was declared the winner. but a twist. morsi announced he quit the muss lick brotherhood. the former ambassador to egypt and israel and the former assistaassis assistant secretary of state for mideast affairs. thank you for joining me. let's start with the departure from the muslim brotherhood is that symbolic or substantial? >> he has a long history with

the brotherhood, but also has the obligation or the desire now to unify the country. this should help doing that, because there is an awful lot of fear. what does the muslim brotherhood have in its mind? or a policy for the country in the long term? so that will help a little bit. but i don't think it's changed his mind or his approach to the problems of egypt in any substantial way. >> let's talk about, mr. morsi here, as a president. we know what kind of candidate he was. do we expect his presidency to closely resemble that? what kind of diplomatic stage does this set for egypt on the international front? >> i say it does pretty good things for egypt. it takes the threat for u.s. pulling military assistance, for example. reinforces those people who want to see democracy come to egypt. it does not do everything that the forces of -- liberal forces

would like to see, and there is also residual fear that brotherhood has an ulterior motive. the big problems are the ones that will confront morsi and the government itself. huge unemployment. economic collapse. tourism in the tank. these are all things that he will have to face. and to some extent, i'm sure military is very happy to have him face them, rather than have them face it. >> this election, the election result raises a lot of concerns for a lot of folks in terms of how it might affect relations with israel down the road. is it too early to speculate about that? >> have you seen some movement on the part of morsi and supporters, back from the brink on the question of the treaty between egypt and israel. if you take a look at his statements, over time, they become more and more moderate as he goes along.

very clear to me, the military doesn't want that treaty broken, doesn't want an excuse for the united states congress to pull $1.3 billion out of egypt. that's pretty secure for now. the relationship between the two. you will have some pressure, but no hold. >> what might the election mean ultimately for creating and maintaining some stability in that region? >> well, it could be a go ahead signal. we'll see more when we get to the libyan elections. there is certainly a move toward islam, the question really is not whether it's a movement toward islam but what is the nature? there is a lot of uncertainty there, even among supporters of the brotherhood. they have had differences and so this will be a period of definition that's coming up. >> what you can tell us about morsi's politics and policies? >> morsi is pretty gray.

he was a bureaucrat in the sense of his religious operation. remember, he was not the candidate of a muslim brotherhood. much more dynamic and car charismatic person was, but was disallowed. morsi has spent time in the united states, been educated here, he has two children, both u.s. citizens, has no real reason to despise the united states. but neither is he going to be seen as a great advocate of the u.s. >> ambassador edward walker, thank you so much, mr. ambassador, appreciate your time. >> you bet. ahead, the big three. is one party in a win/win separation no matter what the supreme court decides on health care. lots more, right after this. america over thirty years ago to live the american dream. i'm proud to represent the usa because to me it's the best country in the world. this is what the red white

and blue means to me, what does it mean to you? and i thought "i can't do this, it's just too hard." then there was a moment. when i decided to find a way to keep going. go for olympic gold and go to college too. [ male announcer ] every day we help students earn their bachelor's or master's degree for tomorrow's careers. this is your moment. let nothing stand in your way. devry university, proud to support the education of our u.s. olympic team. [ crowd chatters and groans ] ♪ [ male announcer ] hunger getting to you? ♪ grab a ritz crackerfuls. made with real cheese and whole grain. get hunger before it gets you.

office politics. alice talks to msnbc's martin

bashir, he will share something you might know not about winceton churchill. she started about the problems why the european economy and significance to this country. >> i think people, especially the money markets, are aware of it. and when that happens, americans start thinking about it at this moment, there are 11 countries in europe. so the totality of europe, about 48 nations, 11 countries recession. now, one historian says when you get over 16 nations in europe recession, it becomes a contagion and it spreads to places like north america. and it starts to spread to the capital markets and so on. so we're very, very, very close to that situation. and that's one of the things that i feel is going to impinge on the election, and if we get to september and that number of nations recession goes up, then i think that may well affect the american economy. and when that starts to happen,

the electorate simply blames the president. for many people, it's too complicated to explain to them that there is a euroeurozone, t these individual nations overspent, as we did here in america, but the consequence in that place -- there are separate nations, but in a single currency and all came down, and danger, some of those nations are right at the bottom, ireland, explain, italy. the president of all people is absolutely conscious of trying to encourage europeans to take responsibility before it begins to spread here. >> the war in afghanistan, that ongoing, what do you think the attitude is for people to get involved in syria? >> very, very low. what do you go if you go into syria? what happens then? >> right. >> if we've learned anything

about iraq, afghanistan. >> got to have the endgame. >> and the indigenous opponent will rise again. you won't go into a country, resolve its problem, get out, and then everybody is fine. that's not what happens. what happens, the taliban comes back over the board forever pakistan and re-establishes itself. it's interesting. in the 1980s, the british government realized there was a problem with ireland and the terrorist organizations in ireland. they could continue a war of attrition or they could begin a dialog, and i'll never forbet being in belfast when bill clinton was there and george mitchell was there. senator george muchle, the special envoy, there was a sense in which america had assisted the peace process in northern ireland, in the -- between the british government and the irish government, that was such a positive act.

if you go there now, there is a par will meant with former terrorists that sit next to other members. to many people, they think that's unconscionable. but we aren't having people regularly killed by the n.r.a. we have lost 5,000 people in iraq. should be not think about that before we think about throwing ourselves into military conflict in syria? does that behoove ourselves to think about what's lost in iraq and afghanistan before we think about another military strike? >> you are a cigar smoker? what's this behind you? a little secret? not anymore. >> are we allowed to talk about this? >> yes. why do you have a picture. it's a beautiful black and white photograph, cigars, right? >> these are native indian cigars, and it's a series of

hand rolled native indian cigars, which have been hand rolled since the 17th century. i'm a big fan of the one and only winston churchill, and winston churchill used to smoke a cigar between each course. he would have normally four or five cigars in the evening. is he believed to have smoked on average 10 cigars a day, every day. but i don't smoke. i don't want to encourage people to smoke. >> so how do you feel about tequila? just kidding. >> that is your problem. >> that is my problem. that's it. >> beginning tomorrow, martin bashir's show moves to its new time. weekdays, 4:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. up next, the big three. the fast and furious controversy. who stands to move the most politically. stay right there.

and get weird? no. family vacation... vegas. ♪ no. no. give it a big yank! really? yeah! [ knock on window ] no! no. ♪ ugh, no! [ sighs ] we can have hotdogs for dinner?! yes. [ male announcer ] in a world filled with "no," it's nice to finally say "yes." new oscar mayer selects hotdogs. made with 100% beef and no artificial preservatives. it's yes food. your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. just $14.99. start with soup, salad and cheddar bay biscuits then choose one of 7 entrees plus dessert! four perfect courses, just $14.99. come into red lobster and sea food differently.

if someone took mid-sized sedans and broke the mold? if we took our best-selling altima back to its essence, kept its dna, then reimagined nearly everything in it? ♪ gave it greater horsepower... ♪ ...and a lighter and stronger body... ♪ ...advanced headlight technologies for greater visibility... ♪ ...and zero gravity seats that reduce fatigue? ♪ yeah, that would be cool. introducing the completely reimagined nissan altima... ♪ ...with best in class 38 mpg highway and better acceleration than camry and accord. it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪

let's compare. germ party! eww! now the colgate total mouth. nice! [ female announcer ] colgate total fights 90% more plaque germs. i'm in. [ female announcer ] colgate total. less germs. healthier mouth. the calcium they take because they don't take it with food. switch to citracal maximum plus d. it's the only calcium supplement that can be taken with or without food. that's why my doctor recommends citracal maximum. it's all about absorpti. and he didn't stop for three days and nights as he escaped life as a child soldier. twenty years later, he was still running, he just had a different thing driving him. every step of the way. ♪ visa. supporting athletes and the olympic games for 25 years. join our global cheer.

time for the big three. the big topic, sound and furious. landmark decisions looms and this weekend's must reed. let's bring in ann cornblunt. matthew miller and columnist for "the national review" and speechwriter for condoleezza rice, former, alisha, let's start with you. our own garrett hague said your former boss, condi rice, was the star in utah. the lobbyists loved her, politicos loved her. everyone loved her. is she -- are you going to answer the question before i even ask it. >> absolutely not surprised. she is a star in any room, and someone the republican party still needs to listen to. i couldn't be bager fan.

>> chance she is number two on the ticket? >> i hope. i am glad they recognized her brilliance. >> running for a two spot on the ticket? >> i don't think some of i think she's very happy in her private life. >> matt, fast and furious, darryl issa on one of the sunday shows he did he admitted he didn't think there was evidence of a white house coverup here. is the drama all purely political at this point? >> i think it's been purely political from the beginning. you look at how chairman issa conducted his investigation, the way you usually conduct an investigation, gather facts first and make statements based on those facts, and he's put the cart before the horse and made reckless charges first and scrambled to justify them later and when he can't, he moves the goal posts. what we saw last week and what we're likely to see this week, more of the same from him. >> how could the justice department make the original

problem of saying they didn't know about the gun walking program and then they said, we did know about it after all. how does that happen? >> two things, one, the original letter written on february 4th, which has been much discussed now, the people writing the letter and gathering facts talked to people at the atf, u.s. attorney's office in arizona, told them it wasn't happening. facts have come out about that. and chairman issa shows it's an inahead vein tent mistake. he doesn't want to admit that, so he keeps pressing on with divisive move like contempt. >> ann, the other big issue that will dominate the discussion in washington and this country next week. if not for the next few months as well. of course, the health care decision. the high court expected to tell us something either tomorrow, perhaps thursday as well. let's talk about politically once a decision comes down. who is the in the better

position to spend this thing? the white house or repun i had c republicans? >> i think you will see a lot of spending from both sides. as you know, even if the white house loses all or part, they will say it wasn't good for the american people, not good for the cause of health care, but politically i would expect them to use this as a rallying cry. if it's upheld it will be used as a rallying cry on the right and the obama administration will be vindicated. are you seeing this jockeying going on now before decisions have come down. predicting who will be to blame if it doesn't work it sounds like it may be tomorrow, may be later in the week. the very last minute for success. >> i want to take a reuters poll here. on the overall health care law. 56% of americans say they are against it. 44% support it. but when you break it down to two key elements, 82% support

forcing insurance companies to cover people with present-existing conditions, 61% are in favor of allowing children to stay on their parents' insurance until 26. if those provisions are also struck down as well, are republicans in a tough spot having to celebrate this as a victory? >> well, given this seven out of ten americans do -- disapprove, i don't think so. i think that the element that most americans are up in arms about is that this is yet another intrusion of government, what the federal government can order the individual to do. this would be the large government machine dated laborer increase in american history. it is the most watched court case since brown versus board of education and certainly think we should take it serious. >> i again, if -- if they strike down the individual mandate but let those other two provisions stand, which seem to be based on this poll, if they allow those two components of the law to remain are republicans in a

tough spot? >> i don't think so. because i really think that the american public is not happy with this law in its current incarnation. you can look at on a state by state level this can be decided but i personally don't believe it is for the federal government to decide. the majority of americans seem to agree. >> conversely, is it actually better for president obama in some ways for his re-election effort if this thing is struck down? can he then say look at this do nothing congress again and how obstructionist they are again? >> i think it is hard to say what the political consequences will be. one thing i think we know, though, is, you they, whatever happens in the court and if the court strikes it down we will have a lot of debate what this means important the president and republicans in congress. if it is struck down the thing that republicans will have to answer is there are 40 million people that have health insurance because the law passed. if it is struck down interest won't. if t republicans will have to explain what's it that they would do for those people?

that's a hard question they haven't been able to answer. >> take a quick break here. when we come back, you guys are going to come back with your must reads. something we look forward to here every week. we hope you got good stuff for us. yoo-hoo. hello. it's water from the drinking fountain at the mall.

[ male announcer ] great tasting tap water can come from any faucet anywhere. the brita bottle with the filter inside.  [ male announcer ] great tasting tap water can come from any faucet anywhere. morning, boys.

so, i'm working on a cistern intake valve, and the guy hands me a locknut wrench. no way! i'm like, what is this, a drainpipe slipknot? wherever your business takes you, nobody keeps you on the road like progressive commercial auto. [ flo speaking japanese ] [ shouting in japanese ] we work wherever you work. now, that's progressive. call or click today.

we are back with the big three. we have your must reads for this sunday. anne, we will start with you. what's the must read today? >> front page of today's "washington post." my colleague peter wallston has a great story about the decisions the obama administration made on the health care case about the legal strategy as it worked its way through the courts to the supreme court. >> matthew? >> i'm going a little outside of politics. a piece in "vanity fair" about the ritz hotel in paris for anyone that's a pan of ernest hemingway, recounts classic stories of hemingway liberating the hotel after world war would. just ahead of the french army as well as what it was like to be there in the 'went and hemingway and f. scots fitzgerald. >> elise, we will finish with

you. what's the must read? >> an article in "the new york times" about bahrain and how they are disappointing in americans' effort for their effort of recall in reform. it is broader trend in the middle east, strategic interest and our commitment to american ideals of pluralism. >> i always enjoy the must reads. i'm even more impressed that you guys never include your own. you never include the articles that you have written. >> i think i try to. >> the producer said no. always a pleasure. have a fantastic sunday. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> folks, that's going to do it. that's going to wrap up this sunday's edition of "weekends with alex witt." alex will be next week. up next, "meet the press" with david gregory. have yourself a fantastic sunday. [ male announcer ] this is genco services -- mcallen, texas. in here, heavy rental equipment in the middle of nowhere, is always headed somewhere. to give it a sense of direction, at&t created

a mobile asset solution to protect and track everything. so every piece of equipment knows where it is, how it's doing or where it goes next. ♪ this is the bell on the cat. [ male announcer ] it's a network of possibilities -- helping you do what you do... even better. ♪ new venus & olay. olay moisture bars help lock in moisture... while five blades get venus close. revealing smooth and goddess skin begins. only from venus & olay. starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. thin coffee shops. people who i thave been out of work. you can tell it wears on them. narrator: he's fought to pull us out of

economic crisis for three years. and he still is. president obama's plan keeps taxes down for the middle class, invests in education and asks the wealthy to pay their fair share. mitt romney and his billionaire allies can spend milions to distort the president's words. but they're not interested in rebuilding the middle class. he is. i'm barack obama and i hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs ] so how did it go? he's upset. [ male announcer ] spend less time at gas stations. with best in class fuel economy. it's our most innovative altima ever. ♪ cubanour most innovative altima ever. cajun raw seafood pizza parlor french fondue tex-mex fro-yo tapas puck chinese takeout taco truck free range chicken pancake stack

baked alaska 5% cashback. signup for 5% cashback at restaurants through june. it pays to discover. let's compare. germ party! eww! now the colgate total mouth. nice! [ female announcer ] colgate total fights 90% more plaque germs. i'm in. [ female announcer ] colgate total. less germs. healthier mouth. [ female announcer ] colgate total. it's time to live wider awake. only the beautyrest recharge sleep system combines the comfort of aircool memory foam lad on top of beautyrest pocketed coils to promote proper sleeping posture all night long. the revolutionary recharge sleep system... from beautyrest. it's you, fully charged. this sunday, the immigration debate roils the presidential

race. both sides court hispanic voters. my lead guest is at the center of the debate. he's also top in mind these days as mitt romney searches for a running mate. >> mark yo rubio is being thoroughly vetted as part of our process. the executive privilege stand-off between house republicans and the white house. is there more here than just political theater? the man leading the fight against the attorney general is here this morning. chairman darrell issa joins the roundtable. we'll talk about that, and break down other key topics in the presidential race. the veepstakes for romney. the fund-raising edge. and immigration politics. some key voices are here, former democratic governor of new mexico, bill richardson. nbc's andrea mitchell. and politico's jonathan martin.