president, agrees with the the president that it is not and he believes that you shouldn't call the man -- the tax penalty a tax. you should call it a penalty or a fee or a fine. >> that's correct. >> okay, glad we got that cleared up. somewhere, rick santorum can be heard screaming at a television and ripping off his sweater vest in anger. that came after a slew of supd show appearances in which republicans encountered all kinds of horrendous questions, including chris wallace. >> i just want to ask what's specific thing are you going to do to provide universal coverage to the 30 million people who are uninsured? >> that is not the issue. the question is how can you go step by step to improve the american health care system? it is already the finest health

care system in the world. >> is an issue? >> let me tell you what we're not going to do. >> yes, indeed, r it was a variable parade of republicans saying what they're not going to do about the uninsured or any of the other provisions. speaker boehner. >> it has to be ripped out and we need to start over. one step -- >> you say so to heck with all these provisions, like additional preventive care, children, women. >> we can replace. >> so all those people who have preexisting conditions, you say we're going to get rid of this, then deal with it. >> listen, i've already outlined. we believe there's a better way. >> there's a better way. they're just not going to tell you what it is. any way, why are we even talking about government's role in health care? this is a matter for the god of creation and nature itself. congressman paul ryan. >> this is a new government granted right. we disagree with the notion that our rights come from governments. that the government can now

grant us into finer rights. those come from nature and god according to the declaration of independence. >> you know what? the real story is that a lot of this is being thrown back to the states and governors like louisiana's bobby jindal will have the ability to refuse it using whatever curious reasoning they can muster. >> states are different. founing fathers intended each state to be a laboratory of exper menation. the reality is if what works in massachusetts may not be appropriate to another state. >> really comparing mardi gras to -- >> yes, he really did. i'm join ed by sheila jackson lee, good afternoon, ma'am. >> it's a pleasure to be with you and for all americans, this is a special week for us. happy fourth of july.

>> indeed. you have been an unwaivering advocate for children in texas. you're the co-chair of the congress congressional children's caucus. what is your reaction when you hear charles perry say he's completing opposed to the health care reform even though 22% of children in your state have no health insurance whatsoever? >> the reason i began this conversation with wishing everyone a happy fourth of july, that's probably one of our best moments in america, we declared our independence and recognized that we were stronger as a confederation of then colonieco but then going toward a state, but then that we were more strong, if you will, being united. that's what the health care reform act is all act. it is about establishing a standard of the quality of health care for all americans.

and if we would use our patriotism not to demonize a law that has become the law of the land, i can assure you that americans would recognize that their lives would be made better by the the continuation of affordable care act just like mitt romney said in 2005 where he called out those who would be free riders and it's interesting that his own representative and surrogate has now acknowledged that no matter how the justice roberts wanted to define this case r for him to be part of the majority, it is a penalty, not a tax. when you don't pay your taxes, your not taxed. you're penalized. so for the children of my state and the children of america, what it does is for the little baby born with asthma or sickle-cell and their parents could not get insurance, now, today on the eve of our most

patriotic day, they now have the right, the governmental right, the legal spreme court of the land right to be able to be covered by insurance. that's going to save lives. >> yes. >> and for the speaker of the house to say he wants to pull this out by the roots and to indicate that it's capturing insurance companies, when martin, as you well remember, insurance companies collaborated on this legislation and indicated they would celebrate it if we required america to take care of itself by having health care coverage. >> mitch mcconnell says 13 million people in this country without health insurance is not the issue. but i thought that this was precisely the issue. because unless these people are brought into the system, they're not only miss out on all kind of preventive care, they'll also continue to use a system they do not contribute towards, so it's

exactly that and yet mitch mcconnell says it's not the issue. >> again, misinformation. demonizing legislation and i think many have in the even read. if they did, they would also understand that 98% of americans would not be paying a penalty, but more importantly, 30, 40 million, the number keeps going up and down, it's the exact issue of individuals who lay on sick beds an hospitals without opportunity for insurance coverage and when i say they lay on sick beds, they're in emergency rooms because they can't get into hospitals because they have to go right out the door or maybe some of them fall sick right at the door of the emergency room because they're checkinging cards and coverage and i understand hostals. they've got to survive and those individuals don't even get into the hospital. so to the minority leader, by falsifying the information, it's confusing americans.

it is in essence distorting what is a positive step towards not only coverage, martin, but preventive care, coverage of children from birth to adulthood. the elimination of the donut hole for seniors. 3.5 million of them saving billions of dollars and i asked the minority leader what is your answer for the throngs that are not standing outside waiting to get into the various health facilities and they cannot? what is your answer. >> his answer is that's not the issue. we already know what mitt romney thinks of this. because he implemented the same system in massachusetts. but when republicans talk about repealing and replacing this act, do you know what they plan to replace with? i mean, what is their strategy? for revolving the issue of 13 plus million uninsured

americans? what is it? i spend the whole weekend watching every single public affairs program. i didn't find a single constructive alternative that reslor revolves that problem. do you know what it is? >> they're embarrassed. they are embarrassed and the reason is because they can dmot overcome young people being able to stay on insurance. they can't overcome lifetime, no lifetime caps. they can't overcome the senior citizen relief they're getting, so in actuality, they believe no news is good news and that's what they've given the american people. absolutely no news, but they are giving them pain. and the pain will be the lack of this coverage and they are ignoring of course, governor romney, who had many, many statements indicating he wanted no free riders. he thought it was a good thing for people who could afford health insurance to them to pay.

so in essence, no. they do not have an answer. i'll tell you what they have an answer. their answer is to go to walmart and buy one of those 2,000 piece or 1,000 piece puzzles and then to throw it all on the ground and then spend another decade or 20 years trying to place that puzzle together. that's what's going to happen on july 11th when they implode the decision they believe of the supreme court and the desire for people to have health care and polling only shows distortion. when you distort something, of course the american people don't understand, but i believe my friends are embarrassed and what we're going to do on july 11th is going to be embarrasses. >> may i extend to you a very hap happy fourth of july holiday. gl thank you and you have a wonderful week as well. >> stay with us. much me ahead. >> all of a sudden, you have a candidate who is going to do everything he can and will do. i mean, he will end obamacare,

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the house has already voted some 30 times to repeal or defund this law. >> we're going to do it one more time. >> that was an ever irascible john boehner teeing up yet another pointless house vote to repeal the entire health care law. our political panel is with us from washington, former dnc communications director, karen finney, democratic strategist julian epstein, and politico chief reporter, ken vogel.

good afternoon. julian, have you ever seen such a team of bitter and sore losers as the republicans following thursday's decision? >> they had a really, really bad week last week. they lost everything on the immigration case. then they lost badly on the health care case. both cases of course, a conservative controlled supreme court. then mitt romney comes out and says that the penalty is in fact not a tax. you would expect that the republicans would want to change the subject and move on to something like a bold jobs plan, but they're like a dog chasing their own tail. they go through this inspector routine with eric holder and then want to talk about this repeal of health care, but can't answer any of the questions about what they want to do about preexisting conditions, the uninsured, subsidies for middle class and businesses. >> recovered by this.

>> all of these things cht it's like alec baldwin didn't know when to give up words for games, these guys don't know when to take no for an answer. sf sf >> karen, the whole point of the mandate is that unlike any other consumer purchase, all of us will eventually need health care and the reality is that we have universal health care, it's just some of us pay and many of us don't. if they hate the president's reforms so much, why is it impossible for them to come up with an alternative that will revolve both of those issues unless they simply haven't got a clue? >> i think it's pretty clear their strategy is about defeat president obama. it's not solving these problems, but it's on democrats to now take this opportunity and really put republicans on defense because the point as you just stated, we already pay for the uninsured in the form of our

higher premium. the whole point is that this is about a penalty for free loaders on the rest of us who pay and make it so that when we have to go to the emergency room, waiting times are that much longer. democrats, if republicans are insisting on taking another vote and pushing this line of argument, we've got to go back and say okay, what are you going to do specifically, case by case for people who are currently insured, will be folded into the program. specifically, frankly, i would do it down to the district level and make this an issue, also -- >> karen, you say that, yet yesterday you had mitch mcconnell suggesting this system is the equivalent of the nhs in britain, which is not and continues this process of edition information.

>> >> and you have bobby jindal saying i'm not going to accept the extra money. basically, he's saying if you're sick, hold on because i'm waiting for obamacare to get repealed hopefully if romn's elected. >> even though for the first three years, the state doesn't contribute anything. >> that's exactly right. >> well done, bobby jindal. >> but if we don't press the point, they're going to continue the misinformation. >> julian, you wanted to interrupt. >> this is the biggest lie that we have heard since i don't know when that the states aren't actually going to take advantage of this opportunity to provide health care for 133% of the insurance, poverty line. the idea that a governor has an opportunity to provide health insurance for millions of people who are uninsured and then 90% afterwards, is absurd. this is political year

electione electioneering. >> ken, do you believe that? because i hear bobby jindal, i hear rick scott. i hear rumors about rick perry in texas. do you think some of these state governors will say no thanks to the federal money and literally kiss good-bye to their income? >> i think they'll be compelled not to do so by their state legislatures and by other politicians in the state. we saw a similar dance if you remember with this stimulus money where sarah palin, bobby jindal, some of these other republican governors tried to make a show over using the stimulus money. eventually, they all took it. it's tough to imagine any of these governors making anything other than sort of a symbolic case against the health care overhaul. i do think however that it could end up motivating republican voters. we see polls showing that republican voters are more

motivated to go to the polls. this is one of the driving reasons why republicans are not letting this go. are thot answering the question about what they would do instead and are making these cases about refusing to participate in the mandatory elements of the overhaul. >> incredible. julian, we heard congressman paul ryan say earlier in this broadcast that our rights come from god and nature. and fellow ron johnson condemned the law in exactly the same way. >> i don't -- our rights are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and we start expanding beyond that real m, when you create a right, you create an obligation for somebody else and you're taking away that person's right. maybe doesn't seem that great, but it's just true. >> i'd like to get all your

contribution on this, but julian, help me here. is everything after the declaration now just null and void? what is this man talking about? i think he touched on the right thing when you u talk about voting right. you look at every major social reform, medicaid and medicare, voting rights act. it was always this kind of sky is falling down. our liberty interests are over. chief justice roberts and the majority decision on thursday said that the provisions that are in this health care, in the health care law, in particularly, the free rider provision are similar to those all throughout the tax code and when republicans say they are indicting the leader of their party, mitt romney, whose massachusetts model was very, very similar to what is the law of the land now. >> congress paul ryan said our

rights are only coming to us from the all mighty and from nature. >> this is the heart of the very fight we need to take to republicans when we talk about our constitution and declaration of independence. our view of liberty is part of that is you have the right to be healthy. there has to be some political pain for republicans who are now basically saying they're going to take away your health care, they're going to take away your child's health care and they're basically saying you are on your own. if we don't take the fight right to them, we will lose that fig. >> karen finney takes on the fight every time karen finney, julian epstein and ken vogel, thanks so much for joining us. next, team romney beats the heat at his lake house. maybe he should invite chris christie up. stay with us. ♪ [ male announcer ] we believe small things can make a big difference. like how a little oil from here can be such a big thing in an old friend's life.

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every week is a good week when you work around $215 million, but this should be special pr mitt romney because the nominee the taking a break from campaigning. and he's spending the the week at his family compound in new hampshire. that's where mitt and ann are celebrating independence day. the retreat has already given us a rare glimpse of mr. romney attending services. the family makes up a third of the entire congregation. more devoted family man. but that brings us to the campaign's big problem because the more americans learn about mitt romney, it seems the less they like him. it's already clear that mr. romney has plenty of love for his five sons and 18 grandchildren. what's not so clear is that he

has that much love for anyone else. his boat house, valued at $630,000 is worth three times more than the average american's home, yet his solution of the houses crisis is to let foreclosures continue. the same with the auto industry and the banking industry. as long as mitt romney can retreat to his compound, he'd rather not intervene in the challenges facing the nation and remember, this is the man who wants to be president. stay with us. the day's top lines are coming up. [ male announcer ] what's in your energy drink? ♪ power surge, let it blow your mind. [ male announcer ] for fruits, veggies and natural green tea energy... new v8 v-fusion plus energy. could've had a v8.

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loved by the washington lishment. >> those come from nature and god according to the declaration of independence. >> were you surprised by the supreme court's decision? >> turned out to be a surprise party. >> may not work as well in vermont. >> we're not taking common sense approach. >> why not be specific? >> this has to be ripped out by its roots. >> why not be specific? >> the romney mandate a tax on the middle class? >> governor romney has to speak for himself about what was done in massachusetts. >> if people can afford to buy it, either buy the insurance or pay your own way. >> how would you provide universal coverage? >> i'll get to it in a a minute. >> that is not the issue. >> mitt romney -- >> governor romney has committed that he will repeal the --

>> as they were identified by governor romney. >> free riders. >> were you guys calling it a tax or penalty? >> penalty. >> are you stupid? >> think people are voting with their dollars? >> four years ago when my dad dropped out of the race, my mom said don't think about doing this again and slapped me in the face to remind me how hard this was. >> there are five of us. >> let's get right to our panel. ana marie cox and jonathan capehart. good day to both of you. jonathan, mitt romney has a box office problem on his hands. in about two week, the new batman will be released and the world will earn the the learn t

freedom goes by the name, bain. now, it's a different spelling, but talk about bad timing. >> bad timing aurly if you will. as we've learned over the weekend, all those bain attacks from president obama, vice president biden and the the re-election effort, the attacks that other democrats were saying are uncalled for, the president shouldn't do this, the administration or i should say the re-election efforts was going down the wrong path, turns out that in battleground state, those attacks are working. >> ana marie, shouldn't mitt romney shoulder the entire burden for elevating his experience in private ek i wqui the sole qualification?

was never about job creation. it was about making money. he's to blame, isn't he? >> he did sort of back into a corner when he off loaded his massachusetts experiments. experience. oh, yeah, everything i did in massachusetts, all those compromises, working with democrats, health care, that doesn't count and he had to focus on nothing but his bain experience and i guess the the olympics. but yeah, like he is the one who created this problem for himself an i have to say about the movie, i think maybe let's consider it lucky for the movie rather than unlucky. people are going to have that association. >> fair enough. >> john, we just got some new frs the romney campaign. he's confirmed the candidate will visit israel later this summer. the exact dates are unclear. but could come after a visit to the olympics. now he's been quite critical of the president on israel.

any surprise about this visit, john? >> no surprise at all. one, mitt romney has to make a trip overseas as a candidate to show himself as a potential leader of the free world, potential president of the united states. barack obama did the same when he was running in 2008. >> why not go to france or greece or england or ireland -- >> the same way then senator barack obama did when he ran in 2008. with mitt romney, of course, he's trying to play to the jewish voters upset with the president because of his stance on palestinian-israeli peace efforts. people, jewish voters who think the president isn't supportive of the state of israel enough and this will be, give mitt romney an opportunity to highlight those differences, but the president has the perfectly

fine record on israel. perfectly fine record on that and i don't think it's anything the president has to worry about. >> rupert murdoch lit up twitter again saying this. mitt romney last week topped chicago pros will be hard to beat until he drops o friends from team and hires some real pros doubtful. that's pretty rough by mr. murdoch, isn't it? >> it is, but i have to admire the way he really speaks twitter language. and he's not, you know, unentertaining in a way he lets these things go into the twittersphere. he's attracted a lot of attention. i think we might have an example of someone accidentally speaking the truth here. he doesn't care. he doesn't really care one way or another about what people think of him and he's probably one of the few people that can

give romney sort of unbiased advice and clearly, we know what that advice would be and i don't think he's wrong. you know, romney does have a lot of people around him, been with him for a while and the campaign has not been the most skillful. they've made some mistakes. >> from earlier today with chuck todd. >> exactly. all these people are perfectly, they're skilled operative, but have been with romney for a long time. sometimes if you're with somebody for a long time, you grow a lit blind to their faults. they're probably some of the people who see mitt's human side. they have a hard time understanding why everyone else doesn't see it and have a hard time making him seem more human to the rest of us. >> john, murdoch tweeted a follow up to that and says i'm quoting, romney people upset at me, exclamation mark. of course i want him to win,

save us from socialism, et cetera, but should listen to good advice and get stuck here. what is et cetera? >> must be those talking point that is the right wing loves to use so much when describing president obama, his administration, his policies. death panel, blah blah. if ha means tagging on to the whole socialism, the president is a socialist band wagon, so be it i think from his perspective. >> what has this president done that would offend repert murdoch? >> he's a democrat. do i need to go beyond that is this. >> et cetera. >> et cetera. >> thank you so much.

ana marie cox and a very happy birthday to mr. capehart to his of course 25 today. congratulations. >> i'll take that. thank you. next, another giant bank too big to learn. stay with us. >> did i stay on topic? are you stupid? on topic. on topic. next question. good. thank you. thank you. thank you all very much and i'm sorry for the idiot over there. take care. >> idiots. man: there's a cattle guard, take a right. do you have any idea where you're going ? wherever the wind takes me. this is so off course. nature can surprise you sometimes...

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pay fines of $200 million, 160 million to the u.s. department of -- david cameron made a special statement to the house of commons this afternoon saying this latest series of fraudulent action demanded greater regulation. >> we must ensure that britain takes responsibility for sorting out its own banking sector. on the unfolding scandal here in the u.k., we need to take action right across the board, introducing the toughest rules on pay and bonuses of any major center in the world. ensuring tougher civil and criminal penalties for those who break the law. >> but that is apparently not shared by mitt romney, who says banks don't need more

regulation, they need less. >> i want to repeal dodd frank. >> they're making it harder for banks to make loans and to put people back to work. >> jared bernstein is an msnbc contributor and former chief economic adviser to joe biden. how many times dhuz kind of fraudulent active have to happen before we're convinced these banks need proper regulation? >> that is a large number. that is unknown. after the great depression, the folks who were responsible for crashing the economy kind of flung away at ast for a while and it was an era of the kind of kept the system safe for decades. now what you are hearing is people after a few years of a similar kind of dynamic, let us be in charge again. that's the best way to go. we're the job creators, all of

that nonsense and every time you hear about a new scandal like this, whether it's jamie dimon or in this case, the libor rate at barclays, sure enough, someone was playing with the numbers again. >> mitt romney says that in addition to reforming the president's health care, hll also repeal dodd frank. does that make any sense given what we're learning about barclays or is this the evidence that mitt romney is basically a friend of fraudulent bankers? >> it makes absolutely no sense. one of the things that struck me during the republican primary is something that they all agreed on was repealing dodd frank. now, for many of us, it was an improvement. the idea ta you can allow the financial sector to police itself was something that adam smith said wasn't going to happen back in the 1770s. by the way, you just reminded me

of something i wanted to ask you about because you're a former lond londoner. i understand the office that regulates this is called the serious fraud office. >> the serious fraud office, they will only investigate a scandal that involves money amount in excess of around 60 million pounds sterling. so that's how serious this is. >> this interest rate, the rate at which banks lend to each other throughout the day is an interest rate that is invoked in the setting of hundreds of trillions of dollars and all kinds of financial transactions. this is a big deal. >> this scandal as you know involved a stand by bank to tweet interest rates on bonds meaning towns and cities all across america may have potentially lost millions of dollars owed to them.

>> the way this kind of broke down most simply is you have folks in a bank like barclays who trade on these bond rates. then you have a firewall allegedly and on the other side are technicians that set the rate. the traders were asking the technicians to set the the rate more favorably. >> remarkable scene there in london played out here as well. thank you so much. >> my pleasure, martin. zblncht coming up, the the president prepares to hit the road. stay with us. i was teaching a martial arts class and having a heart attack. my brother doesn't look like a heart attack patient. i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. i'm a fighter and now i don't have that fear. that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you.

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the president may be out of town at the moment, but there's plenty going on behind the scenes at the white house to make this a busy day, not least of which are preparations for friday's release of the june jobs report. the unemployment numbers come out at the same time the

president's bus tour through the swing states. let's get the latest from kristen welker. good afternoon and the president is starting his first bus tour of the 2012 campaign i believe on thursday. the next day, the labor department releases unemployment report for june. is there a strategy going on here with putting the president out in the road when this eme e emerg emerges. >> reporter: they say there's no specific strategy. right now, everything is being carefully choreographed and it's not unusual for the president to be on the road when the jobs report comes out. it allows him to get out of the bubble of d.c. it allows him to actually take his message to real people and in instance, he's going to be in pennsylvania and ohio. two key battleground states and he's going to be talking about the strengths of the american worker. the fact that he was able to in his words, revive or help revive the auto industry. certainly seems to resognate

with voters there in the rust belt. we spent so much time talking about the impact of last week, those two huge decisions that came down from the supreme court. but if you u talk to democratic strategist, they say it is the four remaining jobs reports that will have the biggest impact on this president and his chances for re-election. last month, the unemployment rate picked up and if you talk to analysts, they say he really can't afford many more jobs reports that inch up like that. >> indeed. the president and his family will return home i believe tomorrow and then get ready for the fourth of july. what are they planning this year? there's always something of a festival at the white house on the fourth. >> reporter: absolutely and this year will be no different. military personnel and their families will be here at the white house. of course, staff members will be invited to participate in events

here at the white house along with their family members, so it's going to be a barbecue, concert and of course, fireworks and it always draws a very big crowd. hundreds of people. it's a really big celebration, really a special evening here. >> the first family celebrating the birth of the nation on wednesday, also the birth of malia. she's turning 14. any word o birthday celebrations for her? >> reporter: well, the white house is as you know, very guarded about the girls and releasing information about them so we couldn't get any details. in past year, she has invited friend to camp david and the first family is at camp david right now, so it's possible that they're celebrating as we speak. by the the way, in 1996, chelsea clinton celebrated a birthday at camp david. it's interesting to think about the fact that the president has

to be a dad as well as be a president. despite everything going on last week, the president certainly has to mark his daughter's birthday. john f. kennedy, his daughter turned 5 just after the cuban missile crisis, so it's a juggle act. >> i think he es it with some skill. thank you so much. we'll be right back. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf's pizza palace gets the most wards of any small business credit card! pizza!!!!! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! put it on my spark card! [ high-pitched ] nice doin' business with you! [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve the most rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet?

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>> our top political priority of the next two years should be to deny president obama a second term. >> but on thursday, the supreme court decided the uphold the law, a law which means that people will no longer be allowed to free load off the system. a law that will ensure coverage for more than 30 million americans who don't have health insurance. these were the key issues presented by the solicitor general when he argued the case before the supreme court this year. he explained that unlike broccoli or any another consumer purchase, all of us would eventually require health care and also explains that we already have ewan vuniversal ca this country, it's just that some of us pay for it and many don't. that's why it made sense, but not accordinging to mitch mcconnell, who was solemn and bitter on fox news this weekend. >> i just want to ask what specific thing are you going to

do to provide universal coverage to the 30 million people who are uninsured? >> that is not the issue. we're not going to be -- >> is an issue? >> that is not the issue and mitch mcconnell is absolutely right because for him, the only issue that counts is his relentless and determined ambitious to undermine the president. even if it means ignoring the needs of 30 million americans. compassionless conservative delivered by one mitch mcconnell. thanks so much for watching. "hardball" picks things up right now. when is a tax not a tax? let's play "hardball." good evening.

i'm michael smerconish. what we have here is a failure to communicate. from the moment the supreme court upheld the individual mandate kauing it a tax, republicans saying aha, see, president obama raised taxes. but today, r mitt romney's chief spokesman told chuck todd no the mandate is not a tax after all. why would he say that? if it is, it means romney raised taxes with his plan in massachusetts. this is why santorum said romney would be the worst to carry the antireform message into the fall. also, we're hearing that chief justice roberts planned to strike down the mandate, but switched his vote. plus, count on seeing the obama campaign keep up their attacks on bain capital. both campaigns admitted the attacks on mitt romney's business experience, they're working and