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pioneers of outsourcing. my experience has been in saving the american auto industry. and as long as i'm president, that's what i'm going to be doing. waking up every single day thinking about how we can create more jobs for your families and more security for your communities. >> as the president fights for your communities, his opponent is battling more troubling headlines. today a scathing associated press report raises new questions about romney's offshore assets. including one transferred into his wife's name the day before he took office as governor. it came after a "vanity fair" look into his offshore accounts. romney has claimed time and again that these accounts never saved him a penny. >> i have not saved one dollar by having an investment somewhere outside this country.
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>> now, that might be true, but the objects of hiding money in bermuda or the cayman islands doesn't look çgood. and the president is making this election a very clear choice. >> my brief was that i had to participate and fight on behalf of the middle class who had given me so much so that the next generation wuld be able to have those same opportunities. that's what got me in my first campaign. and it's that same idea that i believe in in my last campaign. it's the reason i'm here today. it's the reason i r for president. it's the reason i'm running again for president. because i want to keep on fighting for families all across america so they have the same opportunities that i did. >> joining me now is congressman ith ellison democrat from minnesota, and msnbc political
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analyst richard wolfe. he's the author of "revival: the struggle for survival inside the obama white house." let me start with you, congressman. the obama campaign is drawing a clear contrast between them and mitt romney. how's this going to play out? >> it's going to play out to the benefit of the american worker who is going to know that the president's on their side. and that governor romney has been on the side of big capital, offshoring, and all the rest for a long time now, mitt romney's got a lot of trouble because he's saying i haven't saved any money by offshoring. well, has he made any jobs in america by offshoring decidedly no.ç so he's going to be in a defensive posture and be in trouble. >> now, richard, the obama campaign and those supporting the president have been very aggressive. i mean, there's a new ad out that raises the question to
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every american what they think about romney's offshore holdings. they're going right at it. look at this new ad. >> i don't know if he's doing that because he's trying to shelter his money from taxes or whether he just doesn't believe in the american economy, but either way it's not a very good sign. >> where there's smoke, there's fire, right? >> that's pretty aggressive. >> it is. and look. if this had happened in a vacuum you'd say maybe it's too aggressive. but this is the environment we've been living in for years. when president obama tried to start up his administration, there were people like tom daschle and tim geithner who had tax irregularities. with tom daschle, he was ruined
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by it. conservatives said if you want to run for an office like treasury, you better make sure your tax affairs are in order and above and beyondreproach. running for president is much bigger job. you're actually going to be the guy who appoints a treasury secretary. he should be able to answer these questions at the very least.
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>> who would know better than them? he's really signaling to them that he is their guy. what they're saying back to them is well, then, stop acting like so much of what you truly are and then look like a guy who works with the class. try to give him advice which he's very handedly not taking. but it's only the start. look. when the swiss bank accounts and offshore accounts start coming in, the multiple homes, money in the -- i mean, it's just going to keep on coming. and he is absolutely a poster
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childç for the 1%. by the time november rolls around, he is going to be looking like just what he is. which is a daddy warbucks out of touch rich man. >> now, richard, when you look at the fact that a lot of these attacks are coming and i might well say that let us not forget that it was mr. romney who just slayed his opponents with a tax during the primaries. talking about the obama campaign being aggressive, they're nowhere near as aggressive as he was on mr. gingrich and santorum and others during the primary just a month or two ago. we're talking weeks ago. but it seems as though his record on bain that has been put out there is working. swing states like the one that the president was in today are responding to these commercials.
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according the latest nbc wall street journal poll, 33% said the more they learn about bain, the more negative opinion they have. only 18% said the more they hear about bain the more positive they see romney's business background. that's a problem. because romney raised his business background as his evidence that he knew how to deal with the economic condition. if you have these people saying the more i hear about bain the more negative my view, 33 to 18, that's a devastating çfigure. >> it is. the problem here for him is he's the blank page. people don't know him. negative attacks have more impact on the candidate you do not know than the candidate you do know. there are people out there with negative opinions on the president. negative ad? who cares. people dislike him for whatever they want to choose.
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so the new guy is the one who's most vulnerable. remember this is a candidate as you point out had made his name, emerged by negative attacks in his own right. so there's a whole aura of negativity around him these ads are playing into. he's vulnerable to it. it shows in the polls. >> now, congressman, the president and his campaign advisers repeatedly keep bringing up how mitt romney had said let detroit go bankrupt. and when you look at the fact that not only did the president bail out the auto industry, the auto industry is now according to the detroit news, the auto sales are on track to be the best since 2007. i think collectively for gm and chrysler, like, 22% up. they'renot only survive,
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they're thriving where they can create new jobs and opportunities. when you deal with auto parts and other things in the state of ohio, that is outside of detroit. that's significant in these battle ground states. >> you know what? it's a big çdeal. i proudly represent minneapolis but my parents were born and raised in detroit. they'll say barack obama is somebody who helped them. and they resent mr. romney. and they really resent what they try to say he should get credit for the turnaround in the auto industry. he's going to have trouble in michigan big time. i can tell you you've got a lot of other companies that are auto suppliers throughout the midwest, and every family knows that. we're dealing with an area hit hard by foreclosure, hit hard by unemployment. the president is seen as somebody doing somebody about it. >> when you look at the maps, you see ohio is at 7.3%.
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pennsylvania down to 7.4%. maybe that's why the president is headed to these states. he's leading romney in pennsylvania by six points and by nine points in ohio. you've got republican governors saying we're on our way back. you have a president saying yeah, because of me. and romney's saying shh to all the republican governors. >> don't believe it, right? it's getting bad and the other guy is to blame. the big number to worry about is the ohio number if you're the romney campaign. big voter registration. and try and tell people that in spite of what you're seeing, the auto industry coming back and evyone gettingç hired here, things are really going badly here. that's a tough sell nap gets to the hard of his premise of being
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president. >> congressman keith ellison and richard wolfe, thanks for your time, thisvening. >> thanks. coming up, mitt romney flip-flops on the health care law. now he's claiming it is a tax after all. and he's really, really trying to convince republicans that he believes it. >> when the supreme court has the final word and their final word is that obama care is a tax, so it's a tax. it is a tax and it's constitutional. they concluded it was a tax. that's what it is. it is now clear that his mandate is a tax. they had to find it was a tax and they did. and therefore obama care is a tax. >> gee. what are you trying to say, mitt? also, stunning news about how republican governors are putting politics above people hurting millions of uninsured citizens right in their own back
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today conservatives are accusing mitt romney's campaign of being quote, politically dumb. and that's one of the nicer things they're saying about it. seems like some on the right are getting nervous about the presumptivive nominee. we'll talk about that and his flip-flop. next. ♪ how are things on the west coast? ♪
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welcome back to "politicsnation." the right wing is working itself into a frenzy over mitt romney's health care flip-flop and his bumbling campaign. yesterday romney finally got on the same page as the rest of the republican party. claiming the health care mandate is, in fact, a tax. >> the supreme court has the final word, right? they said it's a tax, didn't they? so it's a tax, of course. >> that's 180 degree turn from what his spokesman told msnbc just on monday. >> so he agrees with the president -- but he agrees with
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the president that it is not, and he believes you shouldn't call the tax penalty a tax, you should call it a penalty or a fee or a fine? >> that's correct. >> the back track isn't silencing romney's right wing critics. in fact, it seems to beç inflaming em. "the wall street journal" have called it an unforced error. and says the campaign looks confused in addition to being politically dumb. that's in quotes. also quote, the campaign's insular staff and strategy that are slowly squandering an historic opportunity. end of quote. at the same time more and more conservatives are criticizing how romney are running his campaign. calling on him to get specific on something. on anything. the journal said quote, the romney campaign thinks they can
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play it safe and coast to the white house. but what americans want to hear from the challenger is some understanding of why the president's policies aren't working and how mr. romney's policies will do better. he is losing ground. and bill chrissal if they are quote, dopes. joining me now bob franken. thank you both for joining me. erin, let's start with romney's flip-flop on the tax issue. will this hurt him? >> oh, of course. it already has started to hurt him. there's no question. and with all of these republicans saying this was an unforced error, they need to figure out what to do. that's true. and the one thing i would take issue with is this is not necessarily a staff problem. this is a candidate problem. because the staff is always ayp% reflection of the candidate himself. >> now, you spend a lot of time
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covering romney, a lot of time on the road with the campaign. when you have his spokesman on the air monday not just saying the campaign feels it's a penalty, not a tax. but he says governor romney feels and he said several times the governor -- he was speaking for the governor as if he and the governor talked about this. then you have two days later governor romney saying the exact opposite. are you saying that romney's out of control or unfocused or the campaign just can't seem to connect with the candidate? what's going on here behind closed doors in the romney camp? >> i wouldn't say that mitt romney is unfocused at all. i would say that this is an example of mitt romney being led by the republican party. the entire republican party jumped on the idea that yes, it is a tax. but mitt romney and his campaign were saying something opposite.
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of course furnstrom spoke with romney after the decision came out. they agreed on one strategy at that time. then they changed it. the romney campaign has followed a set strategy from the beginning. they have not proved to be particularly nimble. i think that is the key here. they've had one strategy to not say much for the entirety of this campaign. >> if there was their strategy, they are succeeding. let me go to you, bob. here's how romney tried to talk his way out of this tax versus penalty question in anç intervw with cbs news. i want you to watch this and help me. >> okay. >> does that mean the mandate in the state of massachusetts under your health care law is also a tax and you raised taxes as governor. >> the chief justice made clear that at the state level, they can put in place mandates. they don't need them to be
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called taxes to be constitutional. massachusetts mandate was a mandate. it was a penalty. it was described that way by the legislature and me. >> the supreme court says that's different that the federal government said the powers are different? does that make sense of you? >> just take a read of the opinion. >> whap is he talking about? i mean, first of all that is not what the opinion says. second of all, i don't think he's answering the question. i don't understand how your spokesman monday says the governor, you personally, have said you think it's a penalty. you come back with this convoluted answer two or three days later. i was on "morning joe" this morning and said i would like to call the governor and have him come on to talk about this. because i just don't understand what it is he's saying nor do i understand how you go from this position monday and thursday you
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had the complete opposite day. >> see, what bothers me most of all is i think i understand what he's saying. i'm a little worried aut that. but it's the same way that he's trying to wriggle out of the fact that obama care was fathered by romney care in massachusetts. and what he's saying is the difference it was the state's right to come up with that plan opposed to a federal plan like obama's. most think that's poppycock. do you remember the old army slogan be all you can be? mitt romney's slogan seems to be be all what everyone else wants you to be. he's trying to water ski on the head of a pin. >> well, i think that might be good, but erin, the fact of the matter is aside from him trying to have it both ways, the opinion doesn't talk about the cotitutionality of these states. i mean, some of the stuff he was
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saying that the opinion does, it really doesn't. this fact is i think it was roberts that took the position it was constitutional, the affordable health care account, because of tax. the others were clear in saying it was constitutional because of the commerce clause. so it wasn't even -- he's, like, the supreme court says -- the supreme court did not say that. that was roberts' opinion why he sided with the other four. >> and remember, in mitt romney's response in that interview, he said that he personally agreed with the dissent. so he's having it both ways in that response. that's why it's hard to figure out. >> he's saying i agree with the dissenters who say it's not constitutional asç a tax or commer. but the supreme court has spoken. i mean, it's really offensive to the intelligence of the public, bob. you don't agree with it, but i'm going along with it.
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i mean, it's crazy. >> oh, erin to say he's trying to have it both ways? you should be ashamed of yourself. that has been mitt romney. he's been trying to have it both ways. during the primary, he was to the right of khan. >> how about the right wing voters? how bad is this "wall street journal" editorial pe, how bad does this hurt him when they're blasting him like this on the pages? >> they're sort of asking the impossible. they're asking him to come up with alternatives to the obama programs. and the fact is the alternatives he seems to represent would be poison if he actually did talk about them. and of course they're also talking to him and demanding that he fire his staff.
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and so you have to wonder what he would do if he did that. the chances are given his history, he might just outsource the campaign. >> erin, you covered the whole primary season with romney. are they surprised they won? it seems like they don't know what to do now that they're the winners. >> they expected to win for most of this thing. the thingç i would point out that's interesting about this is that in august of 2008, all throughout capitol hill republicans were very upset at the campaign john mccain was running, but we weren't seeing it come out of the press the way it is now. it's been a stunning change. republicans are more upset with mitt romney than they were with john mccain. >> we'll leave it there. erin mcpike and bob franken, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. still ahead, president obama has tough words for republicans still trying to roll back his health care law. and telling millions of uninsured they're on their own.
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it was again. what's going on here? i'm told there's an unidentified flying object behind me?ç i think they're seeing things in the control room. but hey, you never know. but take a look at this headline today from mother jones. ufo sightings are more common than voter fraud. so something that we may barely ever think happens is way more common than voter fraud. in ten years there were 13 credible cases of in-person voter fraud. 13. and there were 37,000 ufo sightings. so people were 3,615 times more likely to report a ufo than be a victim of in-person voter fraud. they're looking for a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
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when the association tried to prove voter fraud, they came up with 311 cases. 311 since 1997. that puts the fraud rate at 0.0005%. but they won't stop. 19 states passed voter suppression laws last year. and in pennsylvania, we're seeing just how harmful they are. just today we learned that pennsylvania state officials says more than 758,000 voters may not have photo i.d. they need those photo i.d.s to vote under the new law. recently a pennsylvania republican leader let the cat out of the bag. >> voter i.d. which is going to allow goverfos romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> this is about helping republicans get elected. not preventing fraud. that's why my organization has started a voter engagement tour
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republican governor rick scott whose state ties for second to last in the country. yet he put the cost over people. >> any expansion of medicaid which is already growing at 3.5 times or general revenue is going to be tough. every time we expand medicaid, we find it more difficult to fund education. >> how do you reply to those saying you've got the numbers wrong. >> the truth is it's a lot of money. whatever the number is, it's a lot of money. >> it's a lot of money. but your numbers are wrong.ç now six other republicans are saying they're also going to opt out of the expansion. eight more are leaning towards saying no. today the president had some choice words directed at those who are trying to repeal his signature law. >> i believe that in america, nobody should go bankrupt because they get sick.
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i'll work with anybody who wants to work with me to continue to improve our health care system and our health care laws, but the law i pass is here to stay. >> joining me now is melissa harris-perry. host of the "melissa harris-perry" sh harris-perry" show. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> strong words from the president today on the law. what kind of message is that sending to the governors? >> well, i hope he's just being really clear. part of what's happened here is first you have the attempt to block this law ever being passed. started with republicans in the u.s. house of representatives. then you have the attorneys general bringing suit against the law in order to bring it to the supreme court. the supreme court has now ruled the law constitutional. now you basically have these
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reblican governors saying okay, yes, the law has been passed. yes, the law has been deemed constitutional, but we're not going to enact this portion of the law because this is the portion of the law we have the right to opt out of. which they areç accurate on. but to opt out of it is to basically say those poor people who live in my state -- and i mean people who are actually poor. who do not have enough money to afford individual health insurance will go without. because we're not going to take the overwhelming matching funds from the federal government in order to provide health coverage and health care for our own citizens. >> and when you talk about the overwhelming money from the government, for three years they covered 100%. then i think it goes to 90%. so i mean, this is just outrageous. but let me ask you something, nicole. you work as the head of the free
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clinics. >> right. >> what does this mean to actual people? you know, nobody discusses politics better than melissa. but i mean human beings that go into the free clinics that you head up nationally. given us an example of not having access to medicaid. what this will do to people. >> the patients that come to free clinics get a bad wrap. most people think they're living on the dole. 83% come from a working household. >> when you say 83% come from a working household you mean people in there are going to work. they're not laying around watching television living off the government. >> exactly. they're working every single day. sometimes they're working two jobs. these mothers are making a hard choice. they're making a choice between getting health care for their child or putting food on the table. that isn't a choice that anyone should have to make. in this country, health care
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should be a right and not a privilege. we see patients every single day that are already telling us that 2014 is too far. it's too far away. i can't wait that long. i need help now. and more importantly, when we talk about what is affordable, we have patients who are telling me i can't afford a $4 medication. so if they don't get access to health care, they're not going to get any health care. and that's a big problem. >> and these are people that are working, melissa. when you look at the unemployed. florida, 21% of the people needing insurance is unemployed. south carolina 19% under governor nicki hailey who's also talking about turning it down. governor bobby jindal, louisian 17%. and when you look at the fact that -- let's just take florida, how it is working there. 224,000 young adults are now
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covered under their parents' plan in florida already. medicare patients saved $247.5 million on prescription drugs. 5,918 residents with preexisting conditions are now able to get insurance just right there in florida. so, i mean, ifç this is such a political kind of move built on they want to defeat the president and not agree with the president that they're mindful that it's working and the thousands upon tens of thousands in their own state? >> you're talking about governors who have done everything they can to living wages. as nicole pointed out, sometimes you have people working multiple
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jobs. because these are the same governors who resisted forcing corporations to have reasonable benefits for workers who work 30 hours or 35 hours, just enough but not enough to get benefits, you have all of these folks living? states with higher percentages of poverty, higher percentages of unemployment than at the national level who are also now resisting the most basic kind of 450u78izing health care. and it's going to be the most vulnerable. it's children. it's women who are raising children without the benefit of a spouse or partner. it's people who are dropping into poverty suddenly as a result of home foreclosure or other kinds of unstable living circumstances. as the president said, no matter what happens we just don't live as americans in a country where we think it is okay simply because you're having a hard
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time that you will also be ill. and no be able to access this extraordinary health care that we have available in this countr >> and, you know, politico's reporting today that there are more legal challenges coming to the law. quote, they're going after pieces of the law like the contraception mandate and the new medicare panel that republicans are calling rationing board. the fact is, though, nicole, if these governors opt out, people that come to your free clinic will have nowhere to go. >> that's right. they will continue to utilize free clinics which have been filling gaps for years. where these people don't have anywhere else to go. i'll tell you what's going to happen. if this doesn't get expanded, more people are going to the emergency for their health care. and that's something we don't all want. >> and guess who pays for that? >> us. >> milism melissa, nicole, than for your time. don't miss melissa harris-perry
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it's been a week since the supreme court ruling on health care ignited an uproar on the right. and today mitt romney became the latest republican to criticize the key vote saving the law from conservative chief justice john roberts. >> he reached a conclusion, i think it was not accurate and not an appropriate conclusion. it gives the impression it was not based upon constitutional foundation, but instead political consideration about the relationship between the branches of government. >> now, romney was speaking to jan crawford. the same reporter who dropped the bombshell story that roberts switched his vote. a story based on sources inside the court. that report sparked the biggest mystery of the summer. who's the leaker?
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joining me now is mike papantonio, cohost of "ring of fire radio." thanks for being here, mike. >> how are you? >> i'm fine. let me t to the chase. who do you think leaked the story? >> i think it's scalia. i put scalia at the top of the leak possibility. there's a good reason for that. in 200 years, the supreme court has this history of showing a betterç decorum than we saw fr scalia. when have we ever seen a supreme court judge in a black robe act more like a politician than he does a judge? we saw this -- we saw scalia the day after this decision come out and basically accuse our president of being incompetent. he accused our president of not being able to understand the law. even though obama was a constitutional law professor at harvard. so i think this is a new
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precedent. we've never seen a judge move politically like this. >> and he did it in his writings. but this is all speculation. we don't know. this is just your guess. let me ask you whether scalia or some others are tweeting other members of the court, why would someone be talking at all in your opinion? >> well, i mean, it's political gain. you have -- and the reason i come back to scalia, scalia almost shows a reckless abandon for decorum. judges don't talk about the idea of what happened behind those closed doors. they do that for a good reason. they do that because they know a man like scalia ask going to be put in the position of having now to look at other parts of this law. he's going to have to interpret. he's going to have to sit on a panel and make decisions when there are disputes about this very law. so there's been this idea we don't do that. scalia has always been willing
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to abandon that kind of decorum. has a long history of that. >> now, some are saying itç cod be a clerk. whatever it is, how does this change things inside that court moving forward? >> i think it chans things in a big way. i think what it does is it hurts the credibility problem that they already have. going into this, rev, you have an american public where more than 60% didn't feel like they could trust what this court was doing. they didn't have faith in this court. they thought that this is a political court. and you can't have the american public believing like that. they have to have confidence in this court. and i think what this conduct is doing, whether it's scalia, whether it's thomas, whoever. this cduct now raises further question. is this really a body of judges or is it a body of politicos that are more set on having their political and ideology out there, their message out there rather than giving us a fair
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interpretation of what the law should be. >> now, you know, the national review of senior editor of national review a very conservative journal as early as june 2nd wrote quote, my understanding is that there's a 5-4 vote to strike down the mandate. since then interestingly there's been some second thoughts. not on the part of justice kennedy but on the part of chief justice roberts who seems to be going a little bit wobbly. so these leaks were early. this was june 2 nnd national review. >> they were. and let me point something out. this suggestion this could be a low level clerk or somebody who worked around the court and might have leaked it that way k very improbable. nothing happens especially at this level, this caliber of information without the people at the top knowing exactly what was going on. for me, for example, it would be very improbable that scalia might not have -- if he's the person, might not have been
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involved at the top of the leak. may have been a clerk that at the end of the day that clerk might have releas the information. >> well, mike papantonio, thanks for your time tonight. we're going to be watching this one and finding out who is the leaker. thank you, mike. >> thank you, rev. ahead, america's big birthday celebration is over, but before all the firewor, something happened at the white house that defines our great country. that's next. to a little girl who saw flames reach her home
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i'm not a democrat first. i'm an american first. >> that was president obama earlier today talking about what it means to be an american. it was also on the president's mind yesterday. when he celebrated the fourth of july with some of the country's newest citizens. he presided over a citizenship
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ceremony for 25 acte duty service members. praising the group for their service and dedication to the nation. >> put on the uniform of a country that was not yet fully your own. and in a time of war. some of you deployed into harm's way. you displayed the values that we celebrate every fourth of july. duty, responsibility, patriotism. >> and at a time when this country is so deeplyç divided, the president chose to higight our common bonds. >> the story of immigrants in america isn't a story of them, it's a story of us. it's who we are. we are a country that is bound together not simply by ethnicity or blood lines, but by fidelity
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to a set of ideas. >> the president's right. we're a nation of immigrants. founded on the ideas etched in the stone of the statue of liberty. give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. well, that's what america's about. and every birthday we should celebrate a growing tour making that freedom to all citizens and setting the example of being free all over the world. as you celebrate your children's birthdays every year, you should also celebrate their maturity. those who love america want to help them mature. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts now. will mitt romney's flip flop? let's play "hardball."
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good evening. i'm michael smerconish. leading off tonight, the individual mandate is a tax. that's the word according to mitt romney who reversed course and contradicted his own campaign.ç romney's shift puts him in line with his party which hasn't exactly been happy with his flat footed response. and if it is a tax, does that mean romney raises his taxes in his plan in massachusetts? according to romney, not exactly. we'll get to his verbal gymnastics at the top of the program. meanwhile, president obama is on a bu tour through ohio and pennsylvania. can he make inroads among those working class voters? and speaking of those voters, how will they respond to the new reports of romney's extensive offshore bank accounts? does romney have an image problem? and a florida life guard loses his job for trying to help save a

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