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not listing what romney said, th psideade a fuamenl miscculaon o ethehe cou bri two parts tother thatould he be an obvus miste th he cou hav lied a well thers plenty to go out there as well. >> do you agree, richard, i'm wondering if that's the case, if this is aommucatis prlem,hat ppen he? is g i gre counicor, en his o he unbievae. >>th'srit, b w hav t remberhaturin a campaign, it's a very tight shot, they had millions and millions of dolla toour o the mesge tt th cou corol. t t gernmt ve ffert th th,ot oy dihe he to d it wit ngre, he d t d with the vp and so he had very many competing voices. the irony is hhathis a present ry mhlect peop tnkinthate wa sor of aheiro rond rean in
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his ilitto cmunite. richd wrht covered them, in campaign rallies where tens of thousands ofeoplouldhow ande inired i thi n thereryin to reify isithis camign anhaveometngoref a vion o hend talking about the future. but, again, it's very different than it was in 2008. >> the president right now i ing beavior rgin, fo se caaign ops,ut i tlou wheoe scarrouggotn his show this morning, he s so inspired about what the president had to say. >> i phis u to orge. bu whoassked aft fr yearif h h mad a miakeset and he sai i c't thinof y. >> i give him credit, it makes me like him more. but you don't want to show,
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espeallyn th campgn,s anform o weaessr lf-dbt. wt doou thin ricrd, 's rhtthe. >> the question about the communication about the american story is telling his story, what kind of aresint wase gng be was h t inserakin des, oras he t outderr t form and thi thegot e bance wrg. couave tked more about the kinds of reforms that he wants to do in his second term, that he didn'to in h fst term he sd iwas a ssio may half missn. mayb y don wto sh wenessutou'v got to sho honey an one of e strengths he had in 2008 was he smed to be answer the question. if you want tay tre i a probm inhe ssag lk a thighlhts inhis ll who
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would do the best job of provg thonombamaas 48 is tho adsheyave en hammingitt mney i i thosswin states. they have been showing that mitt romney is a better manager than president ama. buhoseain aave en hittg hi ha. e healle the predent liarthisas gten be realud fht. but this is a problem for mitt romney, the other problem is at sef th chion i tnk esidt oba h sar i thateoplrealke hi thihat se of the cushion that you're seeing in some of those ads which is a real problem for mitt romney. >> and if the polls show that the romney cpaig nee a ost,aybe thean get i
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enheyame vphe drudge report said that condoleezza rice is at the top of the vp short list. >> gd moing. lete go bk aittlbi re'shatondiad tay to david gregory back in march. >> it's not for me. i love policy, i love public serve, i'm awfly hpy dng wh i'moing >> e's bn a pubc seant, the cl camwoulshe say no? is there credibility in this report. >> when she gave a speh to some ofromn'sop dors coup ofeeks ago i ah. was a ver pitic spch, it w a speh fild wh re at rhetorics, filled with
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attacks on president obama, and it was very well received by the dono andttenesere. anit cated aotfuzz t publans d coervaves. to reahis adli,he romney campaign nay not be seriously looking at condi right now as a running mate, but they want to see how conseatives acto her ne bei ntiod, a if itets posive bz amo t dors an cservivesut tre. >>to independents, this is the problem with the conservatives, she's pro choice, she's for affiative tion ttould be the pem whhe publan baseonseativ dot li her. anher ing es he wt t reli theush yea ahe war decisions. when you balance out the pros and the cons, is it easy to see one omhe othe hat w kno fm the rney caaign i thereer rk
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ersethey d't le t tak litilambl and neeessl tiing f th bas wn theye united behind the campaign would be a very risky move. in addition to tt as you mentioned, chs, is that she was one of the ldingorei pocyigurn th bh adnisttionhen omeso th war i aq, afgnist and so on. thatoulde a polical netivend iwoul rse a lot questions that haven't come up so far in the campaign, so there's a lot going for her she would add a lf exteme, the wode rpring bhat havg a ricaameran wan o t ticks wode a plus. but i think romney is looking at moreautis pis,obportn and t wlen. thosre me local oice at ts pot. the republican voters got very excited at the thought of
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condoleezza rice. i don't s romney dng t happdanc forpoman. or ds ittter >> t bui u t it d th postnnouemenexamination, but -- that one problem, it's always hd toout aarah pali it' hd tout io thnatial sgef youe ver ne a kin oonte bere. sheas n beeutn t international stage, she was for years. >> what you have here is someone who does not agree on forgn licy whany othe forgn pocymars aund tt rney. es hanto have tt kd cla set upswe,ustn foreign policy? there are so many questions here that make her, yes, appealing, but not a gret. >>nd j sgest thi rninthathis s leado drud becse tyante to t usalkibout ts a
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not out in. th's ght, st o a diversion from bain and all of the attacks. but i d think, even the mention ofondoezzaiceoespeak tohe fachathether peopn the srt lt don ve toreiolic o credtial thahe h lik themr may you don't like them, because they're too tied with bush. i think a lot of people on this li wlde a tim pawnty aob jind. mittomnef he goes with the governor, he could be -- entirelyo president obama and vice president biden. >> meanwhi youo he the mney camign th's been the nce abo bainde're gointo tal mor authis lar. al whe i com toax retus aill clion w the -- let me play that from savannah guthrie's interview. >> it's not for mei lo
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pocy, loveubli rvic m aully hap dng wt'm ing. oious tha cdoleza ce,o w hav the bl clton und? d't he it. basically bill clinton said get it out there. there is this narrative out therthathe docra lov th thiis a ric gnd crete gu andhey ao s ghtlthatis d releed2 yearofaxes a so fraly ve mos predential candidates. what's the calculation of lettg this narrative go on. >> if theomneyampan lik touote blclton,shey haven thast few week clinn sd mayhe bus tax nger,omneas citing t clinton as an example, previously in terms of taxes, you live with bill clinton, yove g tmayb strgle wi bl cnton to e g itoh, as aorme priden heows, youe g toe apen ok. theroblith having the
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story continue like this, it's just a constantloop theyeed getll ts o w anaybe mov thrgh the olymcs aayhis a o sty. buwhilhey' hingstuf itooksad. do t arica people care if he releases his income tax returns? >> i think what you' seeing haen, e decratare obvislyoiniith - ty ci oer predentl ndides w havleas tax returns including mitt romney's father george who released like 12 years. it it's -tome poin i tnk tt rney said he will release 2011. their sense is they don't want to release them, they have gone throh th i94, a in otheampans he h n.
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htoodteadstlynd not ven in you ha calls from people like haley barur saying he should release. >> great to have botf you re,hankouo mu. antoda the pridene shed y jus getngn to r foe e, he' embkn a two-day campaign -- stop i rgin. virgia i als a b milary stat publans ve bn agessily hitng t presentver denseuts eve thgh tyasse wit bipaisan support and were never expected to take effect. d. it's my dream vehicle. on a dato d basis, am not usg ga y rod tr is proxatel mis toork. he on me, stopt thgrocy ste, whaver se at needo do- sti don havto u gas i'neveat the gas station unless i want some coffee.
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behi the scesook at t plan hched by karl rove and other conservatives to spend close to a blion dolrs t inve thehiteouse ve youeard of nk ryand sthen w? th are two of the top politicos to watch. ining me now to talk more about the top 50ashiton corrpondt fr polico, johnllen heefinely ood t, n queson. >> l's tk abt thpeop onour st. keplays, iheres a seco oba adnisttion who e yourop tw >> well, i think we're looking right here at san ce,usan
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righis t u.n ambaador, meon w's beeerylose t present ama orei policy. she will be something that will be looked at for secretary of state or some other national security type pitio in e ama wte use. e otr onwe'r lking avidaxelrod, duvall patrick's campaign rightefore he ran. barack obama's campaign in 2008. and youxpecimo b --e was toet bk itheriva seor, t wllee wha happs wh the predentomes ocki on his do. >> key pyersn thromn whe house. beth mers probay t one th'slose t mt roey, tsidof oious hisife d sonshe'een wit him f a t years, she cld b
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expected to come to the white house in a powerful position. just simply give the governor the kind of advice that h was, theind rimmed do, ncis ias t mak disio r. >>ou ao hav the2012 political activists, and i love the story about mtrose, i hed tt has staucks coee s tim ay. 'suyhat works out of the headquarters office, he's very concerned about the details of the campaign, he's not travelina lo wh mi roey, 's u a cong,7 yes d, he bee i publan cclesespi tha age r so timnow. -- the sky'imitor hiut e te is t litorm.
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virgia dsn't all youo run r aeconte, sou uld pectoee bob mcdonald moving on trying to find a place the obama admintration. >> top t celritis y lo ahea >> jan lyn homeut on e sce. fro "glee"? >> a great comedian, she's come out this year in terms of the lbgt communy, she's been a grt aocat for oba, fol o ce aut iues imptant r ga rigs as eress heideahathe bn t bes pridenon g rhts so far. the other celebrity, kid rock shares a home state with mitt romney from chigan. 's bnp andominircl fo aong time madenppeance the 2008
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that will be here for you now -- and down the road. i have a lifetime of experience. so i know w important that is. to politics now, mitt romney brought in a group of ringers to watch his speech the other day. atnded wh a staing ovion. t heas bed tee tes. >>he cpaig actlly gav me a list of african-american vips that the brought into the naacp meeting.
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thes areeoplho we brght to actlly prode thheerg forohere wil be seuppo along those lines. >> "the washington post" reports a motorcycle cop who escorted whithous offialsho w assied aer haid he uld oot the first lady. harryeid one of the growing forces in congss. i aoupt tha i tnk the ympiommiee suld b asmed of thselv, i thi ey suld be emkbar rarrassed and take - ihey havo wea someing at- >> i you rdnly o thing
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the glove areoff,he pridenal mpai's ausin thpresentf lngbout en mitromn gavup ctrol baicapil. president obama defended making this a campaign issue. >> i think it's entirely appropriate to look at that recordnd seeheth ifact s fusas catin js a suessfly dhat and whenou lk a theecor the arquesons ere. msnbc's richard lui in this bain battle. there's really a question about
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the timene. thiis wte kn, i 20, rney saiis,que, wh i lef m eloyen feuaryf99 to accept the olpic assignment. i left on the basis of a leave of absence, end quote. and then in mitmney pubc finciadiscsure saythis .omneetir fro bai pitaon fruar11, 1999 to head the salt lake organizing committee. then today rortsrom t ostoglob" moer jes a 2:00.m.sked how romy cld haveeen a baiapit aer '9 in ne s filings submitted after february 1999. the globe says bain capital describes romney aole ockhder,hairn of e boar chixecuveffic an priden ainanalsclore fm
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shs romywned100% of pain capital in 02. anhebama cpaig ask i 19 o2002 >> mitromnithe thrgh hiswn words or his signature was misrepresenting his position at bain t theec, he s srepsentg baio th ameran pple. ife wayingo thameran ople that aeal mpai antrusissu >> matt rhos -hat so er the top ttt cling to qstiothe iegrif thr enrecaaign present ama ght to apogize. they say it shows romney after 9 di nctivy mane bai
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nds. >> l me ing rney caaignpecidvis keryy healey who serdthe ama mpai. t's ry car fm ery atemt by govnor rnend alsoyain capital that governor romney did not have an active role in bain capital in 99. e whe purse o thi scuson iimpl t distct fromresintbamaaile reco record. >> did he send jobs overseasnd agn, tomne cam pn turn hisull aenti to e olpicsn 19.
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isn't the very defitioof -- predentbamaustoes n wa talkbout thecono an jobs ahe arica pele derve a muc mor host camignhan there gettinright now. all of the ads that are being put out by the oba caaign you n hall tac chkingn "waingt pos" sayi allf tse attksn gornor romney during his bain years are just a distraction. we need to get back to the issues that people care abou whh a joband e onom and vern romy ha cated jobsn thprive seor. >> t "huffington post" reports that mitt romney's own record in 2002 shows that he was still tive invved wit bain he mselsaide sat ohe boa
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he bai umella he main o toard o herompaes liksts. tiedo in. how do you make the distinction that he had nothing t do with bain. he was not anctiv maner ofain athatme. buhis n't aiscuion tt thameran pple allyare abou theyare out e economy. and every moment we talk about these bain figures, we are straing om t sstanve debas th themerin pple derve hav tt rney massachusetts actually brought the unemployment rate downo 7.7% ov 3 monsf umploent ov ,8.2% he d't wan toave tha conversation, so he's out there
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throwing out a those dishonest aims, we need toetackn tracandalk abo the tics at rllyatte t the amicanpeop. jobsndheecomy. >> y are sely hringrom maepubcansho a wored about thi narrative that's out there, i checked in just the last 24 hours, the number of people who have been quote on threpuicande, anasts cludg riie whore concned out is nrative, according to of painting mitt romney as this rich guy who stashes money overseas. leme pyorou wha maye sortf th bger par o this thathe bn accatio pla intorom is mning the are cerinypes of wealthy ople that dedicate their lives, their financial mindset to playing around the system. and that somethi vers nnotut uwith. >> dou he pblemith e sty li here
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>> tnk wt vers hes being lied to and manulated. ery momt wealkbout it is we are playing into his narrative. don't look at the economy that i've eate thermigh be methg wrg wi my pone. wh i wng i pside oba's lderspf thi cotry. d hiabilyoet bac on track. that's something that governor romney will do. he has a provehe amecan ople derve t hea tha stor >> fmerssacsett lieunantoverr my aley coming up in our next hour, ben
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labo wilringnheir se of t corovey. t me bng in aepubcan sttegi andemoctic stragist the romy campaign is saying this is really just a paper work problem, the is that going to put thisttac tre? is tre a pblemicarrave re aut mitmney >> is n so ch the narrive,uts is a per rkrobl and it wasn't presented and it wasn't accepted by the romney camp right away. >> i think that's theermhere yohear a l of rublins at'soingn he, wheer it'sheaxes orhe ofhore coun. >> exactly so why they aren't prepared is more of the issue, because frankl there's not a lot there. you haveompeng ns tlet sayi ere' sethiere, or sethiot ere. but t ef th y, pele wlot carhat pie of peraysf hs
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gog toe he accntab. i guess the question is how does romney respond to this and how quickly? one thehingtheyav de ishey ve p out this ad. >> the romney campaign -- t baapittory i the icerg d ty're srtinto si. th've t toeall -- tre a a lfact ecki oanizions thaare suggesting that in fact there isn't a lot there. the kbaum camign-ays t obamcampgn iblowg sme
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he. >> eept whe you loo aust thstor le thaame o stery, andheonflting explanations? i wod sa theandites cong up --hey' goi t coinueo ppetue tse stors. it theameroblheyave withheir tas. theyut owo yrs bhey refuse to put more. there may not be anything more, but they perpetuate their stories. how there handlg is, o shaning this bauseou dot ju ele a reseo the presencyyou ectomeo om y trus somne wou lievin a these issues are really starting to crack romney's narrative. >> the problem is they're not lkinbout the econy, theye nalki authe -- >> l me ay tt ad, we n ha itloed,et's tak lo. >> wn a pside doe't tl th truth, how can we trust him
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to lead? the obama outsourcing attacks, misleading, unfair and untrue. the wano edenc ttitt mney spped joberse. >> gue myuestn ,ere you ve a predent who i ver weliked. he kills mitt romney on the polls in the likability issue. and you're calling him a ar. so the poi you thi we oulde taing abohe econy, t the eenthat mneyas a songine onhe ecomy- >> ihinkhey nee t gfter thes attacks and say, hey, listen, when you were candidate obama, you had a historyf hang aeally nativ aack rson it wike-1 ainstohn mccai th labily facr ds matt, th w i needs to back to, he may be a nice enough guy, but he's not a confident enough guy. >> gre t s bot o u.
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cvingarbaden food the's gd chance that you skipped breakfast. a study shows that people who skip breakfast oho fast f mo tha18 urs, aore like to cve cb lan fos. a new report in the huffing post says pennsylvania's new ter idaw teate to dinfrahise 10% oew vots the inoveer. dhat the 7. emplmentate. nbc's kelly o'donnell has more on what residents are sang. >> reporter: aentown, pennlvan, th hrt othe highalle heolue coll demratsnd publans. theamil diner, you can
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meet obama backers with buyers mors he meromshat ha't bn ae toke. >> ts wan ved f oba ur yeao, b now e's lost faith. >> it has to do with the economy, it has to do with the wars. it has to do with no jobs. >>er hbanderryhareher ustrion. i tnkt's jus te for chge. >> rorte thiim botlan to veor mitt romney. which is why the obama campaign isn't taking anything for granted. pennlvan is ong thetate th have naw tt reire ter s. it goo t bbackn pisbur, pesylvia. >> reporter: and open more an 30 field offices across the state. we jus wano see who yore gng t votor thi ye.
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>>eporr: a intded to ergi oba supporters. >> we'll do it. thank you. over the last 3 1/2 years, has the president' policies madet eaer o me i hderor you to wt to he pele? >>thers aumbe o divials pcesike legh vle w sti le the priden who vieim favorable, but there's a pal ta palple dappotmen way woman ihe publan cir olehi coty. i tnk rney has toohat he started to do which is to continually invent a positive view of america. >>eporr: wn vots te a ose oktheesidt's compshmes,hey' dide derves ather te. i tnk it' gng to become clear to a lot of voters, and it's sort of this villation of
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whto ve fn th end wil diipat >> i wan t bri in bl roseerg w's pross f s polical ienc we literally just got an e-mail fromhe romney mpaign sing at torrorickantoms ing sho u to on a caaignfficforitt roey. do y thi thaitt mney can npennlvan? >> i think that obama is up by 7% right now. and when we hear this news about santorum coming ou that viouy go newfor mney caushe h n bee ablo t storu totandbehi him. theame int, y he to regnizthat storu in pesylvania has a much lower appeal than he may have nationally. he got trounce wn h ran fo >> - >>tould cnge e equion bys mhs10%.
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ho big a dea is this >>t endp i pennsylvania they have passed a rather restrictive voter id law is tha u heo prode a vernnt-iued enticati. iss gngo impt repuicanwho e tra divisional voters. independents that normally turn out are not going to be as effective. but it' goio affe, paicully yngeopl a afcan-erics anthe eldey whareot gng to ve thi intifatio avaible. it nothat ty d't he e id, but it's not going to be as current as it is for this law. >> mitt romney was -bvioly in stasike pesylvia, he needto aeal t inpendts. anour adveas bn th h ouldake a pe ouof t mccaipali playok. what do you mean? >> when we saw mitt romney make these types of statements, he was really appealing to the ght,hextreight bause
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had to t andaptu the minaon. l ong, thgh,e haso recoize at t v presentters tnes i the ddlereoingo behe ones that decide this election. if he goes too far to the right, he's likeltoohe se thg thccaiand palidnd iena t rht - noturn off other voter who is could potentially vote for him. >> one of the fascinating states we're following, pennsylvania, bi rosberghankyou. > toy's tet otheay cos fr our o marmurr, itesf you tnk tha cond ricsoing to mit romney's vp pick, we have some ocean front property in nebraska to sell you. just $14.99. start with soup, salad and chedr bay biscts th chse e of entes us dsert fr pfectcoures, st $.99. me io relobsr ansea od dferely.
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it oy ro 'n ll,ut afr 60 years they're still -- front man mick jagger says he is surprised they have last so long. >> is ait esumptuous to think that we would last this ng. >> micjagg tur 60 yrs old. > mcdald's the oy restranthat can slrenc fries at the olympics. unless it's the class fish and chip somwelce visors i the ndy ty. it t tefear whe yingpide sw up ithe city one hel i warning guests about the spiders reminding them to keep their windows shut.
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that's going to wrap up this urfansi andompa. crg mein, forhoma robes. >> i diuste by the spiders, just the sight of them. next hour, the bainlame game, skizaonslyin betwn theampansverhen mi romy lebain is t w oords gting out ofntro we'r gng tosk obama campaign press secretary. and couldn't it b cond new eculion er wther tt rney ll p con on s tiet. and disappointment that the red, white and blue olympic team's uniform is not made in amera. alhat d aholeot me, raig ahe on nbc.
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od fray, eryo. i' cralvin e war of words on mitt romney's time at baincapital. is someone not telling the truth? thhe oba and rney cam ar comg ouhardver e ba mes stery'sbost glo" artie claimed that romney was head of bain longer than he admitted. all these questions over romney and seam aain aair ga. >> thit's eirel apprriatto lk athat cordnd seeheth ifact his cus s crtingobs. ande successfully did that when you lookt the record, there are questions there. >> again, there's this new romneydut tod bhing oba f wtany say a are tticshateatus a iprom candatebama eaki athe008 nvenon. >> if you don't have a record to
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run on, you paint your opponent as someone people should run from. joing meowrom chago, ben labo, natnal es seetar for the obama campgn. are these scare tactics? m >>- t sto inhe "boon obe"esteayuggeed tt head bn mieadi t publ sce hwas running for office in massachusetts that he left bain in 1999 is t say that we're engaged incare taccs dhe fact i ttitt mney wa theo,hairn othe bod, esidt,e ner, dole shahold whiof bain capital. >> you mentioned the "boston globe" article from stery, ereas sce bn forne magane h prey muc sd th the mea
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