mu morwherthatame om theidesw. bin whitt roey's reco at in. nbc vid rn iwashgton bure chi of ther jones magazine and the author of "showdown." rick tyler has a spokesman for gingrichnd the gingrich super pac, winning our future. ntlen, n detls aut mney rolat bn po 199 coinueo dr outoday. riounewsrganatio rertedhat cordg tohe teimonhe ge tohe masshuses baot cmission in 2002, romney continued to attend board meetings for businesses acquired by bain, cludg stles. is ces aer rortsrom vid rn imoth jon and yestday e boon gbe owedhat mneyas sll t ceof bn thugh 02 cordg to.e.cfilings. why is this important? well, it was beginning in 1999 at bnnvesd healyn coaniethatere pneerof tsouing cordg to"the waingt post ere'videe thmney andi hasaken h cent. ta a lk athe lest al clear politics average of polls.

obama has a 2.5 point lead over romney now. today the romney campaign hastily arranged interviews with althe jor twor. latehis ternn,omne talk to nbs petexanr. hepresident's campaign has been, i think, outrageous in makinghe kind of charges they have. i think e ki of aacks are neatthe digty o t priden. >> wan to clafy ts en. afte fruar o '9ouever tend aingl meeng for in. busessetin even by phone regarding bain or bain-controlled entities? >>ou've asked quite a few qutionthersoet's go thugh. didn invve melf in a y wi bai pitas terpse aer fruarof 19. notartipati in sgle meetg -- >> i don't recall a single meeting or single participation in an investment decision by bain or personnel decision. rick you campgn,our guy, newgingch bught thi upn priry sean a he s

critizedgingch w. mae roey wld he be ttererveif ts wafull tigad inhe pmari and nothe neraelection. >> i think that's probably right. it was not fully litigated. it wast fuy unrsto in ct. i gi theomnecampgn a enorus aunt cret. th wonhe aumen th basally sdy aacki mitt romney they're attacking free enterprise. not true but it was a dominant narrative and won the day. but there's still the same quesons at a outhere and obouslthesquesons ve take romyffis msage ich jobndaracobams ecomy. rackbama sto iat we're stuck at 8%. there's a $15 trillion debt. and justodaye-he hsss reveing lfarrerm fm bi clion. dav cor youe be all overhis ory. plaito seoneho h bee half paying attention the significance of 1999 versus 2002.

>> in someays,t's phon distctio t inome ys iisn' th's w we' litatinand ghti oveit. ter 9 ba madsome instmes inerta comnies th werinvoed i ouourcing jobs to china, india, mexico. mitt romney is trying to basilly claim that hwasn't inlvedith ose rt o decions. en tugh sti own the compy, en thgh hstil ned fr thacompy, ev thoh heut t comny onhat th, 's ting separate himself from those particular deals. there were some bankruptcies too companies tt happened after at sge. so tt's y he tryg to makeebruy '9thisrigh ne. bui haa sty ouyestday, miael,hat d ba in 8 when romney was ahead of it investing in a chinese manufacturing company that was mang mey o u.scompies outsrcinjobso th. evenrioro th '99righ ne, ere e lo of oble atain.

the arlotsf prlemsith his n peonalinans wi off shore companies. it's turning into a big mess. that's why we won't see much in terms of tax returns. i can tell y, i'gettg stufin or thtranm, ts herend tre. theris jt a althpun tend, a althf marial keelookg atn tes of in dls a romy'rson finances and there are questions of whether he even didn't tell e full truth on many of the disclosure for he'filled ou genemenon c thi moing,resint oma sd a taattas onomnes rerd at bain were appropriate. >> i do not think it disqualifies him, but i also thinit'smpornt ithat s ma calng cd, ihis bac prise thai'm . x-itn thecony beuse ma a l of money, i think it is entirely appropriate to look at that record and see whether in fact his focus was creating

bs a he ccesullyid at a wheyou ok athe rerd, ere e qution ther >> rick, do you think that this is all opposition research oriented? it's coming from chicago, that the obama campaign has been sittg onhesehingfor ite me te? asd in difrentanne do u thk hayourandite, newtingrh coinuedownhe th hwas adedn th prary,hat u towoulhave ttenere. >> well, again, i think we lost the argument about attacking free enterprise. but these things were own ck inanua 15t wentn onof t suny shs antalk abo the s.c. fingsnd t incoisteies en. you ow, seed a t too out thinthen this may seem to be a lot to do about nothing. let's just talk pure politics here. what the president is ccesul dng oiouss he es n wan talk out s rerd. doe't he a cordo ru on. ey'rgoinwithhis ing th bn anit'sot t mea's tentn.

ey'r winning the game. the problem with the romney campaign and i hope he does, he's supposed toome o and 00 tight a addss ts. i pe hdoesn a y th he n puthisinal oncand l bend h. ulmate, thvote havto cideheth thiis aot t do aut nhingr whher mes sothin bui thk mi romy ge th behind him, he can shift back to the president's dismal record on the economy and jobs. >> michael, i can tell you -- >> ok,heeali is u'reointg t,he esidt goa terble js port rectlynd we'ot spenthe st t dsocus on that. the narrative has been driven by the bain issue. let me show david corn something. yesterday a romney campaign adviser gave this explanation to politico for what his boss's role at bn was bween999 d 20. roey w on e s.c. fings caushe w sti tecical the ner t ha't tnsfeed ownehip oth parers. he described him as technically the owner. well, one of the boston globe ports whwork on e ory stery exainethe ntractiobetwn wh the

roey cp isayinand at theye rertinby aumbeof ouets s unvere re iis. >>he gbe a oth repting is not saying that he was in the boardroom on a daily basis at in clinghe sts. t ceainlthatis rords ow tt heas ichar, he had gal sponbili. washe m witoverght sponbili forhe cpany w cayou tirerom company in 1999 but then remain as president, ceo and chairman? i think that's one of the direpaies at wre portg. th's rlly e cr of r sty anromn peoe, ty diask r rrecon. ey'rnot ttinone caus i me, th hav't bn ab tohow at a of r rertinwas accute. >> david, in elanaon he onehal or. romy tte d toolve cris? th it s unpect unrese thahe wld he to vestimse probly bad rd cice,et aive the ympi whetheyere diress therore,ou kw, se details like this became secondary.

>> well, you know, he hathe tionf sang, depaed, wachaoc anit tk uswo orhreeearso so this ou at'sot wt he sayg. 's sing at hhad thin to do -- when i was the first to report that he signed documents, he signed them. it wasn't just that his name w ther he sned cumes th enaed $7milln de to thrgh. th is nthsftere suppedlyeft e coany. heeclad atis fanci dilosu for i'lhavehe sty upn abt anour so and put the link on my twitter feed. but he signed a financial disclosure statement saying that in nway notn anway s he iolvein bn opatio ter brua '99 t trere tsexamps agaiand ainfimigni rerds. w, tt's ing volv. i'not yinge's nnin things day-to-day as the boston globe guy said. but he was involved. but the thing, again, ise's nogointo bableo puthis hindim. my sry yterd abo his chine de, instinin a

chine coany at's befiti frou.s.ourcg, there are going to be lots of these other deals that will be investigated. i got to tell you, mike a lot of this is not coming from chicag i gothattory fromomeby at w intestein lking at s.c. fingsbout mt roey a i delop it self so, u know, the obama campaign certainly wants to gin this up. you can keep a hundred reporters busy from now until election day justoingver tt rney's finciarecos anbaineals and thinricks rit, nt ngri wasightack en. ere'a trendo liality for e reblic par her that was never fully explored back when they had a chance. >> rick tyler, i want to ask you abouthe rmance othe bain atcks. allome t shoou wha pl beala ys ty ar he td potico"baiwill nevego ay, ner. we m everun s agnst in ter e eltion whitewater didn't define clinton. he was running on other issues.

barack obama didn't run for esidt ashe jemiawrig caidatand orge. bu dn'tun ohis rvicin t natial grd. t roey ia ontricpony the ly clingard hasor e priden is s ti in sine." has his chief asset, that meaning governor romney, now turned into a liability? >>lear, thliabity the la 48 urs. i sagr witmy fend,avid co, beuse thinromn can t th behd hi my he ist 6: tonht h ll p it hind his surrogates and his campaign, he can answer questions satisfactory to the american pele. i ink ce tt's ne, en obamhas wayo goo reead . thisarrave tt oba was fitor tm. mo vots manot re aut th. they want to know that whoever their next president is does ha a rl pl forrospity, reallan retn jo and alof ts otr stf isort a sesho the esidt habeen ccesul in eati a b

qution mk aut romy o thisssue all he has to do is have the question mark at the margins in a few swing states. what romney's job is to do, and what it's goingo berom now the camign caus back oma h notng t run on exct mi romy's cord he c't r hiswn rord. he s toontie to distct. thchalnge r thmitt romney campaign -- how to respond to them. >> thank you, rick tyler. thank you david corn. condoleeza rice for vice president? there's a lot of buzz that romn is nsiding ce, t ishe rney mpai jus lookg tohangthe bjec awayrom in? at'shead thiss "hdbal" the ace r potics

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pitic repter for t naonalevie atteion ay fm ba whe th iss apprs thave gathered traction in the last couple of weeks? >> it's certainly turned out to be. we're talking about this story that the romy campaign drew lotsf suiciofromolks he in shinon a sktici. th is way divt atntiofromhat eryo has be talng aut ts we, bain revelations, mitt romney's tax returns. so it certainly worked out that way too. i think another point to be made is here was a week where mitt roey wt bere t natnal assoatioof coredeopl and s bod anin se wa 's n necsari cocideal tt da lat, he comes out with a story or his campaign comes out with a story where it seems to be that they e vetting very high-profile afcan-eric andn so wa senng t sigl th the publan pty ian ilusi one. whicis aessa we ed t sendo inpendt vors. >> robert, conservative blogger, eric ericsson was quick to dampen the speculation when he

wrote, i don't know who ttinthe ack ck tight inhe ror ml bucondeeza rices praboron. shwork foreorgbushor eighyear cod coervaves ok pt the social positions that she has, most notably on the choic issue, because they'd be thrilled to have a legitimate o cosharg th tict? >>eyonthos dru refences i think he's right. every single romney source i've spoken with today has thrown cold water on this rumor. they say romy isunning his veepearclike conltin projt. he metulou timawley, ul rn thre parf tt fil li. coi iseingloat by ose o we to e ut retat, pele w fou herpeecto betastic and they're buzzing to reporters. inside of that boston high command, i don't think condi is a short lister. t's y shwas outde pickike u sa. thinsoci conrvates wod ha somconcns ty mamake sti at e

convtionn taa, ty cod cause a stir on the floor. but i think the frustration toward the president is so strong that even though romney prised he wod pick a pro life candidate for vp. if hpicksomee mily p choi as ce dcrib hersf, ihinkhe aer towas thpresent uld stl gi conrvate soal -- socialists out to the polls in november. >> nia-malika. dr. rice found a supporter on fox. sah pan sa sheikeshe ea. >> ihinkhat ndolza re wod be wonrfulice pridenand rtaiy hamore perice tn ousittg president does today. i would certainly prefer presidential and vice esidtialandite w had thatespe forll iocen priouspurpefulumanife d shed tt reect a ing pro fe cdida. we need to rember, though, that it's not the vice president that would legislate abortion

dhatoulde coress role and 'll ep tt inind. >> n-mala, ts wod be intereteas towinthe ng ba, dot yothin th wou be ke aalinick inhe 22 cye. if anything, i've been anticipating that mitt romney will do something very conservative, not politically conservative, but very conservative itermof the seleion. >>hat'righ a sa choe. thincertnly ostcize thevanlicabasewhicis so iorta in rms eney. i talked to some top evangelicals today and they were talking out this idea that it could be condoleeza rice, beuse her sncen li. d is nven to shey wodn'thow a t polls, but ere wouldn't be energy. there wouldn't be the fire in the belly of the evangelicals. it would send a signal to them and remi them of their reseations abo romney arnd e ise ofbortn. i thk it ver verunlily and thinevanlica in me ys he be in uch th t mneyampan exessi the

disappointment with this idea. again -- >> michael, real quick -- thi mhte anndicion of whayou' talng aut. hangn a cond i wa youo sethis goveor me huabeeoday id iwoulbe aig mtake for mneyo pi conleez rice watcthis >> i think romney would have a real problem because of her weakness on the issues, such as sancti of fe. mneyas pmisethate wi have proife ce pside. thatas aromi thahe me duri theampan beuse waexprsly ked. ythi lesthan that, i think you're going to see a lot of conservatives -- >> reaffirm their doubts about -- >> it would be a disaster. >> h, ro thicreas a t ofuzz. do an entu seltionf a m paentyr roportn th lookorinby cparison? >> sure. of course it's boring compared to condoleeza rice. i think romney is comfortable with boring. heunni a sadycaaign

not citae atll. thinthe itiarespse t condoleezza's pro-choice views is not entirely accurate about how the conservative be wod reond. youead r meir. rst allshe'a noe da gradte, nt ta caolic highchoo she'fami orited oughhe do notave fami of r ow sherew in stro hoehol strg pants, taug herell. she s a eat ory tel i spoke to a republica operative today. they like condi's story. th don't think she'll be pick butike r sty. shcoulcrafa naativthat uld pealo soal nsertive i thk yore rht, mneys loing somne mwestn, evgelil, seoneomfoable withhe be. u ha pawnty. e on thi agast ptman is h busexpeence. they bring the same person a to the ticket. >> i think you're right. nia-likaendeon, b coa, thks. ne, sepatedt bih. poticis whlookike sney aracrs. th's nt onhe sesho youant folw men twitter, you need to figure out how to spell smerconish. you're wching "hardball," the place for politics.

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king vicry l and ing unselyhing and politicizing. it might be that the media is not giving him enough credit for telling the story that hhas told. i dot disagree that hasn't ne aood oughob b not oughredifor llina sty. wh theresint ces o and sa w psed thi bl a herereot oheood things it's going to do, it doesn't make the news the way the president is a communist and he's going to give us death pane --ndy theay'm weargunnyat. at tds tleadhe ns. ste mcmon, did goo job llinstors in008 d ems havlosthe mo on bstaive tter let's go through a couple of them. health care. where was the mistake in communication relative to alth care? >> i thinkhe rublins g out d fred ieffeivel and ickl explningo thameran oplell t benits althare form ankl one of the other things is they should have explained how health care reform is partly

about health care reform but al pary geing ericon a tterrackinanallynd ecomicly bauseealtcare costere aggi dowur onomand our ecomy c't b stng a successful in the future if that were to continue. so one of the things i think they didn't do enough of i connecting the dots. they're starting to coect e do now theyid aot otellg pele wh thedid. theyidn'do qte amuch tellg pele w thedid anwhy wasmpornt a why itatted toverye. thinthat a lesson that -- >> ron reagan, would y put the auto bailout on this list of substantive matters where the president could be taking credit and lling bett? >>es, soluly. nee to lk aut i woulwe rher t ha a gor rysl herin t unid stes? wod weathethosjobs just didn't exist anymore? yes, he needs to blow his horn about this. but he also needs to not just talk about his story and where he wants to ta the country and e go this th he nage to d he ao nes toell e opsiti's sry.

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i frolisteners on the radio, people who idolized joe paterno for decades having a ry difficult time now unrstaing is lest ws. >> aoluty, mhael e dilosus retingo ternwerehe ns inhi freeh report. paterno knew is the headline there. henew abo 98. heollod thenvesgati in1998 heas kt appsed it. d th wheit ces t2001 heas me involved than he had acknowledged. so the significance of 18 i cas ahole newight onhe evts tt muear iniated 200hen h goeoee pateo an tel h abo wt he h see in the shower. it'she second huge red flag and in both cases penn state officials,ncluding paterno, vereit uand thinthat

at'so diurbi herand prlemac fopateo's gacy >>here als micel isikf, aietyi'm re, to the future of the football program. >> absolutely. d th reay ishe nt sh at cld dp he. u goack d lo at e leer tt thncaaent pe sta bacin nembewhen the first -- when sandusky was rested, and it's very strong and pntednd aed vy tou estisbout wt kin o instutiol ctrolhat pn ate d orhe figes in e ftbalrogr a ao whherenn state officials involved adhered to all ncaa bylaws includi thoequiring etcs a hosty. and ere'one itedn tt tterboutoralaluend th ndo uphooral vals en youreeachg you peop. now, you know, there's been a lot of back and forth about

whether the ncaa would be strang osidets le he beuse e tnsgrsions di't speficay inlvehe athlic pgramr pele paiciping thethlec ogra buthen you loo at the bader context of those questions that the ncaa posed to penn statenovember, it's very clear the direction theye adin w, pntate athe tim sd ndime tnsweecau weere waing f t rults ofur ierna vestatio the iernainveigatn- >>hat'er. it'n a -- that's right, and penn state confirmed to me today they're now going to prepare a formal respse. in facthe ncaa saiesteay th wana fmalspon. ey n expt on andhey' alsooingoe hirg ecia couelo ts ise. ere'no doubt about how huge this is for penn state. 3 million a year in revenue, the football program. ye, sureo ead. >> andy i wanto sw yo wha

biz ote the dai bee toy. que, t boahoul he anunceyestday at t upcong season of football at penn state would have been cancelled. it would have been a sincere and ededessa to t worhat th cture wouo lonr b caug , a the couave t thr foball players go elsewhere without the normal period of having to sit out for a year. does that make sense t you? >> no,ecau pen ste i n the oy pcehis cou hav ppen. foballs auge multilli doll busess theop lel colge athlics. is a mstro busiss. penn state's last reporting period, the 10-21 acamic yearitay 2 milln. atoesnount oth miionshatould havome in that a he bunessso ey'rnot going to do that. they're not going to voluntarily dismantle the program, but

remember, this couldave happened at a place lik abam thicoulhave haened a a pla lik aurn, anherehereootbl ing. anfootll i kin i lot o aces thislso uld veappedn cooratamica. this would have happened anywhere where you have millions of dollars floating around because people get into power and they want to kee tir potion i hav aays aedeopl t te me i j tern t cuey, gar hultraha spanr, h gon tohe pole in 2001, would penn state have played football in 2001? yes, they would have. they weren't doing it to proct the otba ogra th werdoin it trote eir n jobecau wle nn ste wld he pyed foballn 20,here a ver goodhanc som o tse gs woulhaveeen of a job aftethatscanl. i'm not so sure, though. ifio paterno would have gone in 2001, he wouldn't have been out of a j. miael, myakes dieren i co dowon t sam sidf th fens dy.

ternhas paed sduskis in t slammer, curley and schultz are being prosecuted, arguably, spanier wile prosuted thos who are culble his areettiheir jt do i n't nt teeheercht intate clegeho h a t om a makes money because he has a tap room and befit off otbao suer. >>hat'the iue pntate pporrs a goi to rae, t onhether sef the coyou' goi to t pple who y if t nc doesn't react in a situation like this, after citing its bylaws about ethi and iegri and mor vaes, wen i is gng t a in enrcin tho laws he youave theost sio ofcialsn crge of penn state program by their own internal reporindis

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the team to truly represent america, we let them wear clothing like the rest of us, made all or the gbal onom for y whsagr, tyould to thepads tohe fire th senor rei wano put th cloing in. "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >> good evening, amicans, welcomto "thed sw" fm w yo. esidt oba ow himn aowe palls. >> in february of 1999, i left bain capital. i had no role whatsoever in the managementf bai catal. i had no re inhe manemen of bn capal aer 1999. the romy camig i i fu tottle pande. >> i don't recall a single meeting or a single investmen in a decision at bain. >> a defiant mitt romy

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