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e magemt ofain capal aftefebrryf19. i lt i febaryf 99. rinquhed on magemt authority and re in bain capital after february of 1999. >> the truth is that i left any role at ba citaln fruar of 9. >> wl ait thaart o m s bmed tt iidn' gne ofheseitt rney inrvie whverydy ee goone. but on the other hand, i realize all he would have said to me is, i left bain capital in 1999. and iould havid,rdon an h wouave sa, ieft ba capal i. wou saan chae t suect? wou sa lt i 19. here is why it matters. the question of bain capital, when mitt romney was there and when he lef it'sritil toitt rney' viblabily asolital candate ate lt bai capiln1999 ase say and sa a says
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his electability depends in pt on that being true, which is why he says it all t time. >> i left that business i1999 toelput the st le cit olpicsab oack. >> wh wked a one compy, in, r 2ye, and lef that toffnd hpave the olympic games. >> i left massachusetts to go run the olympics and left my organization. i was out thereull ti. >>eft bn in 1999 i s ohereulltime i was he n time eomne cpaign suldtart prinnghat on srtsnd coee cs and bumper stickers and dog ouft's because that's central to his campaign. last year, that assertion appeared in pin engsh on t formead to fil to run f esidt. hifinaial discsureform it'slain glis he retired from bain capital on february 11, 1999, to head the salt lake organizer committee. since february 11th, 1999, . roeyasot had a tive re iny ban cital
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enti in any wa you naveoe a lawr to know what in any way means. the reason mr. romney keeps insisting he left bain capit a feweek to19 ihe esn'ant ansr fot thgs bn catal did after that. he doesn't want to answer for layoffs and bankruptcy at dynamic details, the layoffs and closing of the tteel mil whe the feraloverent h com in d b outhe nsio fdsr the way modus media and smtc corpses sent jobs overseaess. he doesn't want tonswer f anof tse this th ha happed a baicapil aer aid heog gon sai h lt th ggoncompy. now he has a problem which is two fold. the first fold, reporters have
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been finding and publhing lot of iiden whe hehows up inain capal dumen as bein ver mh pt of t coany aft19. ey have been publishing bain capital documents like this one from after 1999. this one from the year 2000, showing mitt romney as theole sheholr, se dictor chfxecuve oicernd esidt ofainpita here onerom e flowi yearfrom 01,amthing. bain capital telling federal authorities that mitt romney owns bain and is the boss. theostoglobyestday ilt tharepoin finng finaial discsure fms f mr. mney tha lis h a t 0% se oerf baiapit in 02. as these stories have started breaking as this reporting over the last couple weeks has started snowballing, the reonseromr. roey is tha the dumen tha swis na onhem fmain cital afte19, tse docents don' maer.
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thes are jt lal mum mbo. 's jt auirk ohe law. even though i mitt romney have signed these documents saying that i mitt romney a pnceay engedn t busessf servg as theoletockolde of tfi, thasustegal stf. th's jt techcali. ion't mea. it's not really true. if you were a rich investment manager like me, you would understand, really, you would undetand in you het. day,r. roey abored o hisefen by saygll ohe form his nms bei oll of e forell aft99,ll ofhese forms, what they meant was that he was the owner, but he was not as the owner paying attention to these things that he owned. he wot ping aenti t anhingt ba. heas n speing ythi. he w n gng t etin, noakin desion he was not dog anhingt bain heasusttill owning it. if that's true, it means mr. romney wants us to believe, look at this, look. look.
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heants u to bieve tt he g gopaid lot foing absotelynothg. heade $10000 i001 and agn i002or the job of doing absolutely nothing at bain capital. nothing at all. at $1,000alar i nhe retu froaninstme. at'sot sebod ping him ba a ln. th's mt roeyakin 00,0 for job tte insists he did not do. are there any more of those jobs available out thehereou gepaid$1,000 to thin sweou'r dng absutel nothg? arthesobs ailab ifour me isotitt roey? , ybe,all me well now mitt romne has a further problem beyond that. back when he ran for governor of massachusetts in 20, mr. mneyave srnestiny aboubein aegalesidt of maachutts d thefore beineligle to run f
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gornor i lid in maschusts ahe time, still do, and i remember people having consternation that this guy who lichbed in utah was ing to be govnorf masshuses. heestied hived i masshuses. heaidven thoh h had bn bu runng t olyics in utahhe tvele to masshuses althe time for th personal reason and for business reasons. business reasons? he specifically mentioned havin com bac f brd mtings 2002 incling aareny bod meingsor a comny tha bn had sta in. he swore then he was coming back to massachusetts in 2002 to go to board meetings. he says w he was doing nothg, nhingnothg atll retedo bnfter 99. soitt romy sa he s no therat bain als saye washere it all depends on who's asking and why. this year, when republicans were trying to pick a republican nominee to run against pside obam mr.roey's oppentsn
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erimariedo nl him on is. ey ted t s hehoul leashis tax retus, he shou cle up all thiuff. di't rlly go anywhere in the primaries. the first person who realized mitt romney wastruggling with this, that he was trying to create a lite cogtive ssonce aund is,ryin toake opleelie two oppote tngs athe me me, wand toevad respsibity f wha hapned his firm while still getting credit for being at his firm, the first perso who realized that the first pern who wrallewithhat w h opnentn th msachetts goveor'sace. whe yut opleealt rebefits c the psion benets a csehe plan i has become known that your company made $102 million in profits from the se of tha coany,romdismltalng at mpan myuestn to you is,ouldt u hav me $8 mlion stea of 02illi and heedpeopl i their health care benefits for longer
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or extended their pension benefits. >> i was off at the olympics -- >> a youoing tnswe the esti? >> i wthe olyicshen at curr. >>he ft i y we sti siing cumes aceo o t coanyhile y were away. in the summer of 2001 when you were leaving the olympics you made a statement in the paper that in theummeof 21, y reinalelinishi 100% contl ofour posio in bainsoappantlyyou hadt linqshedhat forend. >>oini us now is shannon o'bri o'brien, mitt romney's democratic opponent in the 2002 ce f gornor e's forrembefhe ste hsend ste nate real nicto hav youhe. >> hi,ache niceo me yound nicto et a neighbor from northampton. i lived in east hampton. >> very good. looking back at the debate foote, athe fst psono prs mi rneynha caaignbouthat rlly
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haenedtainapit and wh h w rponsle f bai capt's tion are you surprised to see it coming up again now? is this the same bas issue you were confronting him when years ag t's tameasic iue and hecritizede dply r vingone methg le this ravin deied tuestn his truthful, and it's taken ten years to figur out that actually maybe he wasn't telling the truth. >> obvisly,he omaampan habeoingfterr. rney forhe appentonflts in the rerd. wond, havou bnn coact th t oba mpai. artheynterested in what you know? are they following any of your lead from what you raised with him a decade ago? >> i certainly thing that aot of the recdhat w creed in 02, t oma peoe a loing . ian, ian'tee tsrom re, t i gssou he had eideopefne o our earlr dates fro 2002, so i really think that after ten years, it's really making sure
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that you hold someone accotablfor etatents ey ke. u ow, gerno --orme goveoromney h demstrad a patrn oasicly n bng coleteransrent autis financial dealings. on the one hand he says the reason shehead be the president of the united states is because he's job creor andhe reon w shodeliee's a jocrear is bause of h faastitrac recdtba. bu the wn pssed abo the baruptes a theost jobs, then he doesn't want to have anything to do with that. so i think that we were able to uncover quite a bit of that in 20, an i thi it' jt okinat tincoisteies, not oy in 200 bounow in s las racnd ihisra. just making sure that he's being truthful and making sure he's being consistent in the message he's pressing for making the se ttheeopl of the unid ates >> iave en minaing ihe riouocumts f f
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daystryio fige outhat is impoant,hat mhteall be legal mumbo jummo the way his campaign is pointing ou and it sticks outor me he was paid 00,0 botin001 and002 bybainotecau of an vestnt b as alar for beg an execive,nd if hes multeous claing h did nothing, he did absolutely nothing, and that he was paid $100,000or being an ecutive, it sms te likne of the ingsannostan thisas tfallapt,fnly thapoin tha tail autim gting id $10000 f eac o tse yes, i that newo you? did you know that at the time? >> that was part of his statement of finanal interest when he was in the campaign, and i think that's one of the reons ate prsed m on thisssue in 2002 and tual pbabl bieve thativenheime tt h w kingunhe ompic before he came back to massachusetts to run, probably the day to day operations of the business of the size and
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gnite ofainerobay sn'ting, buthat hapns inhese pritenvesent mpans is itial i sencwhenou me an invement you g sea ohe ard,nd the's reason you get seats on the board. because you're basally watching overseeing the management of the other companies, watching the decisis th'r kingakin surehey' folwing gd coorat govnns a prottinghe invtmen you ma. hav satn a numrf different corporate boards including some financial institutions and i understand that even if you're no involved in the day to day operatns, it tha boa wkhat ao bemes portt. he pbablwaetti pd for sof tha boanvolment was connuin to maiain whilhe was sll runnghe olympics. that's my reading from all of the stories i have seen in the paper. >> having himay s bland ite day er andver d ov aga on l o t netwk inteiewsic w doi nothg, thin nothg, and enettiaid f mething.
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>> as someone who sat on a board, it's sort of interesting because board members be good board members, and we get td thisy manemen aheme, thers arigh lin beten wh manemen doe ahat a bod do. at a brd does,ery imrtan fraly n onl to the govnance to a company, the direction they're taking, the major decisions that a company is taking, so even thougou manote invvednhe day to d magemt obain orhe mpans yo disssedefor i me ,utou'r ctain inlvednheirecon and theajor disio tha are taki place. so i think that it's somewhat disingenuous for him t s h s nonvold if h was acknledgg heid brdork as aesulf h iolvent belf o ba's invement shaon'bri who ran against mitt romney. thank you for your insight and helping us figure this out tonight. this rabbit hole is y deeper and we're going to keeping. but you held us fureut
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me o. ne qckrogrming no. one mit mney fmer partrst bains going to be chris hayes' guest tomorrow. that's going to be really good. u shld wch at. ou'r notoingo bep thearl dvr it. ok. >>ots illead cludg a pcor wthy spy mie endg to ts sh tonight. please stay with us. of green cot is now in our new starbucks refreshers™ -- a breakthrough in natural energy. made with real fruit, tarbucks refreshers™are elicus l calie dnks u cafeelgooabo. ♪ rethk hoyou -eneize ♪ get a boost of natural energy with a new starbucks refreshers™, three re-energizing way trone us, ly astarcks. three re-energizing way
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> were breingews tight t o misssipp we he be following this story closely. as younow, the state's only abortion clinic, only one abortionlini in msisspi anit's bee teatedith clure a new law i miissii. a w lathat scifilly taets wegulions oy a orti prider new rul desnedoe impossible for clinics to comply with, it seems. seems pretty clear it's designed to shut them down. the oponts o t lawaid th's wt th weryinto witthe law. ts casehe l reqred alorti clicsoave admitting privileges. something that mississippi's republican governor knew they did not have when he sned that ll io lain ail. >> tnk isistoc th todayou e t firtep in a veme, ibelie, too at wampaned on, to say we're going to try to end abortionn mississippi. >> they admitted ty wanted to shut down all access toorti
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in ssisppi. the al o msisspi lma lawmers pasng t new rget rulatns wo shu do the ate' onlinic e clic ae he bee portg here, sued in federal court to block the law, toeep themselves open. tonight, a federal judge has issued a ring thaartily antshe inic ques thjudg d n blo t law itse. heuled tonht tha the n law lle alled t te effe in misssipp but he's blocking the state from enforcing the law's penalties as long as t clinic is trying t comply wh the newlaw. bott line as y unse. it seehathe steme is stil tryg tohut dow the la clic i thestatut they will not be allowed to take action against the clinic to insure that, alt least now. here's is how theclinic'swner is rctin t theuling toght. we'rett hay. thiss -- thi w o mor ncer wheer o noteould be cminay o civly prosuted as y kno we hav don
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everything we can to comply with this law. we've put in all of our applicati applications. we're caing the hoital week. bueverhings ou ofur nds w, ainto the hds of ehoal. we' b aeo opere thou fea ofithe being criminally or civilly prosecuted which is a major, mor relief. i think that the judge was clear th we can com bac any ti if weed to m hing tte'reoing to ffecve able tet t priveges i would certainly like to extend an invitation to governor bryant and all of the officials who have been rea conrned abo th, mbe tyan hpsut d me seallso the hoitalto s ifheycoul otherwise, you know, we plan on seeing it through. >> so as of tonight, a bit of a reprieve. e law that's digneo e aboron iissiippi h bee
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thisollod b nsnd b halingf baews overere. lf theew deiln in e sws ba accntsue, ens surrogates call for tax returns as some say no. the members o rom calm have beenack on tir heell weeklo. here i howeamomom haled st theast 24our new cle. is rht he, can mak i lo anyetter than that. this right here appears to be the only picture that exists of mitt romney's highprile fu-rair in wyong lt nighwithormeviceresint di eney at'st, a pture ole's cks ken om a disncerom bend a le,aybe a ee. that's the only photo. the romney team was so nervous that their candidate would be photographed alongside dk eneymr. 13pprol rang at ty bnedv camas ame veri tent. the a.imes rorts poo of
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reporters was allowed in, but media photos of romney and chen together were not permitted. notnly we theyannerom photraphg roey a chey totherthey wer't en alwed ewitsshe t me staing togeer quot wn m roeyrriv at the recension, he greeted mr. cheney with a hand shake and his wife with a kiss, but reporters wererompyscord ou b the campgn. latein teving, quot oncet m chen'sriva resince, repter thin eahot mr.romn'sremarks, heard mr. romney invoke mr. bush but was not able t make out t context a wasgain escted awayy a ceaiaffe the romyampanent t grealeng to low ere be a meeting but also squelching evidence the h had anythg
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too wh eh othe d in t seews cle, in at se new cycl sebod in romy ld had t gens ea ofloangs mr. romney's vice presidential nominee, the highest profile person from the bu/cheystrion o w n gege w bhrick chen. so thereettiew mmunatio in er a mneynd. ems ke a goodea. with or without these, i'm sure excellent new communications folks coming in to try to tune up the shop at rom m, is gointo beard forhem t r fr the rl cnectns betwn mrroey's camign andhe ltepubcan esidcy. mean even if mitt romney has so far managed to avoid being seen next to george w. bux, there are now a bh of statemen on eecor o h andick cney makg overal gooy eye a eh othe mneyayin dicchen is a
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man of wisdom and judgment, somebody he would model his own vice presidential pick after. dick cheney sayingast night, when ihinkf theind o divial iant in tval ficethatans mit rney. tt rney en rurni the favo saygf dicchen la nig, que, thas qui a man. ite leader. 17 of mitt romney's 24 foreign policy advisers are people who served in the bushhene adnisttion whenoe ben aused t roey cpaig of beiaden th bh/chey ys, the rebutted that charge with two bush/cheney guys. onatte ofolicy inermsf athey' iavor of theye onhe se paven mple iuesikehe rs. chen saiitas a gat mistake, in his words, it was tragic to end the war in iraq and ke ick eneyhe ao do notant endo th afghistawar.
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undetandome of whahey mighthinis the appl of floang conleez ric as mi romn's ve priden paicully sce it's not about bain capital and that makes it a comparatively good topiof conversation today. dhey n reize tha puing conleez ris into todas newakehemhink out lf t cnectns beeen e bhnd romney administrations. do we not remember why it is she's that famous? maybit wnntenonal thg. mae th rney cpaig is gettg cler to aowin the phos,rit? toay plicl tha aitt roey predenc mig b a third term of bush/cheney and what about it? joing us,elis hars perr greato he yo he. ank yo thks. >> whis yrream tiet. tt mneyond nric or mitt romney liz cheney? >> it's romney/rice?
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>> why? >> well, romyices f t y. on i le thedeaf cdi riceoe bid dete. it a date abo fks who have foreign policy about the two big issues that have dominated our foreign poly scen afgnist andiraq and iould lik to hr condeezzricealk aboow e wodefen that paicully ia polical circstan becse s hast had d that i uld ve tha bate. the other piece of it is i just -- i am ready for an america with an aicanmerin wonolital scitistho us t be pvost of a unersi as aice esidtialandite. mak mehapp s w secretary of state, national security adviser. i was an attendee of the university when sh was the ovosther if ias an aitioor someing, don thi iould have recmendhe
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thdea o liz cne aitt romn hasongeeny forit matchup because i want to call the question, i want to call the question on whether or not t currt rublin pars an inrite orhe bushhene lecy owhetr sethi has chand. ifometng h chand, wt ha cngedecauhere thi cunao use a favorite term of condoleezza rice between what they are allowed -- what we know happened in the bushheney e anhat rublins expin out at theodieren the's thigap. par ofhiss ieresng likee cantandext t lynn or dick cheney, we're not going to say george w. bush's name in ear shot o a repter is thi allee ofhat e rublin partis. weave tald abo inhe primyeasobout t kdf ral, sohernrighwing base a how is a relatively moderate rich guy going to sort of pull along thoseopulous
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rightingers, but the real chleng i tnk isotust shing ose up, tt'sartf it buthe oth rl chaenge is h do w mane t ft th theastepubcan presentas not ronald reagan. it was george w. bush. thers a real record of republican disions and those are all disiorom t licyo th ductn of a soci safy net torei poli thaooksrecily le e rerd tha mt romy was toun on >>ree getting close to a point where romney starts positiveting to defending bush/cheney w al of t vise, thdick chey thg, thfloa of the cdoleza ce tng, ich an't says om theomnemign, a they getting close to saying the bush sla bush/chaina years are good years? >> don tnk 13pprol r di cney -- thas whe heas whe h ft fice >> w sawhe bumr ic,
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last time we checked in on senator scott brown of massachusetts, he s trying to recover from what turned out to be a wle serieof eggere me abo the tefigh
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lel meengs he wakins the junior senator from massachusetts. >> i have been dcussg sues mtingnssuen secr mtings wh kinnd quns arime miste a buness learsndility leads, taing,otin working on issues every single day. >> secret meetings with kings and queens. that was the sangelaimcott own de ia rio inteiew la moh. a rangclaithatsou ght ve gueedas not rict sakin cura. hi spokman attempting to clarify the comments to the washington post by saying senator brown was saking genelly out prite meeng has had whoreind domeic lders prive meengsot sect meetings? but kings and queens? no, nexclaarifatio he
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misske. didtome iaydrming ke abann. iturnsut h fanstic secreetisithings and queens is something he talks about a lot, which the massachusetts democratic party had made tape of and which they preedi togleellleas to t inteebsomple wh soun tck fmab. >> meetings with kings and queens. world leaders and business aders, kgsnd quee. fro the kin a eens >> i y thohthathe humiatioof seeg yr humilitatingself would be enough to deteryou from further embarrassing exaggeration on the campaign trail,ou'r n stt own. don't rget thi i alshe guwhoaide s the phos ofead ama n lan. >> he tn thepiure, he'
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defitelyead,nd ifhere an conspiracyheories out there, you should put them to rest, okay? >> no, scott brown, no. you d n see a picturef adin den. u sa the samoax picre on th inteet eryonsaw, onl u tughtt was al, aou to evebodyt waseal so u wld seem important, a big important senator that gets shown big important things regular people don't geto see. his aff had toclify tha as ll. w he got new on >> can nam aitan o mocricnsor bills that never would have passed if it wasn't for me. the president had called me and the vice president calls mend secretary clinton calls aing r myotell the time >>yhone wil jusot sp ringg. llaris clingnd calng d callg. th evitle clarification coming by way of the boston globe today, quoting the globe in reality, senator blown's staff saide has spony oneith hilry cnton jt
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twe inis wle sate reer most rectly er yr agon juth, 2011. the other in december 2010. >> senator clinton calls asking for myote all the time. by all the ti, he mea twe ev. theast tim morhan yea ag and en heays t vic presentallshienat brows stf now clarifying what he actually means is he had a phone call, one with the vice present, and that was a year ana half ago. esul prumab, sct brn dinot arifthesremas hielf becae h wn a ver portt seet meeng wh kingand qensooki at bin laden pictures he found on the internethat he swears are real.
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veyo he's ur rl le spy stor if youre wchinn a podcast, now is a good time to hit pause and get popcorn or near beer or whateve area come ba. beuse is inu. ady? heret go. gegy maoff, dectedrom lgar fro e fla 1969. went from the soviet you know, left went to england. he went work for the bbcnd counis ovlord bac hom we toork yingo fire t hoto aassite h. ile waing f a b i loon, orgy maoff felt a little jab in the leg, a scrape or something. he s a man picking up an brel likthis the n rertedpolozed r bumng ioimnd hopd in c and tkhe umblla wi him. ile iss wtt lked liken the outse, ts is whatt lked ke on the inside. it had a trigger, release catch, gas cylier, barl aoiso
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peet. wasiny conaledun to fireut otheip of t umbrla. fewaysfterhis man jbed mith an umbrella, georgy markoff died. the pellet contained a deadly poison called rin th is rivefrom casrbean to ts d weon'tno w lled geoymaoff, w derethe llin w cared it out. terhe siet union fell ark bulgarian general and former intelligence chief wasenteed to a yeand a hal i jl fo destying dumenn coecti witthe sassatio a trd guy w supposedly ran the assassination plot died in a mistear 0 us unexplained car accint. e gudianewsper in brainepordhenhe buariagovement claps a ack of thopecimbreas wa foun thenterr
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mistry becae th kin o thing is the stuff of spy novels it can be hard to get your hd arod thfactt rely hpensn re lifsomemes. thi ourarged kling abad bdronaircft i a zahing but whoubt how about murder byurdeus gser e begu alexder, aspy, hdefeed t britnan rkeds a journalist and consulted with the british equivalent of the fbi and cia. in the fall of2006, he mith men oeelied tbe forr ssiapiesike msel theyet aa fcy hot i loon a htea. latethat daye became very il shortly speaking, his hair fell out, his organs failed, he was hospaliz and ultatel turn blue thin a few wee he sde.
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at kildimasaoan y 0, aare radacti mateal. me sll amount was dropped in his tea at the meeting with the former spies. alexander -- had to beuriein a cfin ned th ad. hisody wasuiteadiotive therits tced e poan yuused t kil himo a nuclear power plant in russia. when they tried to extradite a suspect from russia the russians declined. the mtery of w kledim waneve soed. his ath ometesalle e fit deh bucle terrism. eier a steenyits actions or someone using radioactive materials to kill someone. he was the first they used to sayut tre a allatio the mahaveeenothe inate 04,asse arat camell. nody kw wh was wng wh him. fle to fraeoredic atntio a few weeks later he died.
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doctors said the death was caused by a massivetroke and a blood condition that couldn't be exaine the sden lnesnoiagnis anthe pitic skes ofim ing,t is nurpring s deat is subct o wd nspicyeori, erythg om hying of aids to deliberately infected with hiv to cause aids to another poisoned pl. at the hrt omost consraci is the allatio that iaelas resnsib for killg hi >> nepw of yasr arat idn satday h uncle may have died an unnatural ral death. many pestinians believe arafat was poisoned. israel dys tt aim. >> isrl's dialsidottop theoisong rums an copiraeori. ho he dd is aourcfumor dntrie ainvestigation. a couple of years ago, a couple of israeli journalists got ahold of the medicalport andheocto lked for evencef t mt cmon ison butidn'findhe
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iden. the we two iestitionby ealesnianthat turdp noing ter o cse of deh. novidee of a conspiracy or poisoning. nothing fishy except rumor and suspicion for ght yea unt now. e ne chaell jaera condted longdetaed instigion toasse araf's dthased inart on his wid ging herate husband's medical files and belongings including some of the clothes he wore at the end of his life and a toothbrush of his. al jeeraenthose ims to la i swierla to este for all sorf thg. firs docrsooke foreavy talsnd cmon poisons. they didn't find any. you have to know what poison you are looking for. after looking f comnoiso ey didedo lkor methg rare aerta rioacve ement whh tyund. theyepordlyoundn arat's cthes and on his toothbrush pa loan yum 210, the
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same that killed the russian exspinondo tearsfter afatdied re'shyhis afatas kill byucle trori thry i see asobbl the enchospil where arafat was treated never tested him for u kwn yu we ao kno ttt grad quicy. itas lif o frmont. y wldheyebleo fi itn hiclots inigh concentrations eight years after he died and if there was plenty of ts material onis belonggs, why didn't it make his wow sk asell. e wainosseionfhe ems teed. s unkely ty we heln a leasafe maybit wlant o h longgs aer he died. maybe. what's the next step what would you do from here? you dig him up. seousl theyre gng tdig m u yass arat's do hassked
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th to eume hisody pro whether he was assassinated. lasteek the n palestinian president agreed to t plato g upassearaf. whenhat ppenis bon wi be ten art aaken awayndesteor palonium-210. what could possibly go wrong? i hope you have a good weekend. i plan to. whdon'we sta it offy spdingome me tethein ison >ue tmatu subct mter, view disetiois aised. >> msnbc takes you behind the lls ameca'sost notoous isoninto wor cha andange no theceneyou ve ner seen "lockup: raw." three unforgettable inmates. each one about to cross the reshold to freedom. >> lk back, you come back. thisime m nolookg back.
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