but he was throwing it back in the bird's face. this was not romney's first tackn ou lar feaered frie. >>'mot gngo mak big bi gowa but tre'soing be aerting o pbs if'm esidt. thas right, big bird. you are going to have to look for some private sector for support because president romney is taking y off the do. everne h t enheirke. but i heo ask,r. mney haveou er auallatch "same reet ? i ow y prer wer spos wi you granids, but b theyan tl you how to get to "sesame street." you know who you wlind on the bloc bch o har rkin mile-css citins. d yoll fd rdon a vernnt wker andria,ho workat t brar and aen who runs hooper's store. the small business which is like ""sesame strt's"own squa. li o "seme seet"s th cturof t livthinmidd ameran css ttoth mit

mneynd pside oma a ployg f the cpaig meages if that sesame temperature graphic is that our candidates are always talking to. >> so what i'v said , nos not t tim to rse tes on the ddleass. e ecomys sll agil were sll dging oselv t of this hole. so let's provide certainty to 98% ofmerins. %fmerins mak $2,000 ye or le. let'say to tt% yr tax ll not go up. >> so that was the president yesterday in battleground state virginia appealing to the middle class with his tax pn to exte theush era t cs for at mdlemogrhic. whit'sertaly a winng meage in cpaig asoni'mtill qstiong a bit out ether or not it's the right thing for robust democracy. see, the congressial budget

office announced this week the avere tarate is at a30ear low. dompad tohe rt of e instriizedorldthenite stat is onghe lest tes inheeveled rld. is e pridens tax cut tensn smt policy or just about politics? does it just become about winning that sesame mographic? e foc is onl o briin do theaxra, tn t mile css iust revue ba, buthe mide csss so ch me th at. thk of hoop'sore. mucmorehast a revenue source for the irs of "sesame street." it's the place where big bird gets his seed and puppets have theifirsumme job and eryo shasommuty news if t sese cla i a t se, w car aut the mide clasat a? joing ms mionight and esidt of the children's defense fund, bob herbert, shelby knox, a feminist organizeand wren is ahamhistian,uthoof "oind pplensid t blkppercls." ank u fobeinhere

>> gd te here >>bo why dsitt romney hate big sfwhird. >> well, who knows what the gop is goi to do for the big bird that they have done for the ddle class. ey a goi to g ridf . big bir had mor mey and bigirdas althr, i wod be protted. t tt'sot the ca. >> wl,pecicall if big bird were privatetized, we know what hapns when ildren's programming has advertisers, right? we know what kindfhings wil bedversedo ildr. onof t this i le aut s ithe ft tty dauter who 10idn' a ar 3-ar-o seecereal commercials, toy commercials, didn't get revved up what the nextig gift w bausehen u wat pbst waa se spe. is ts abo takg aw t fe sce f zmi. >>hichs soimit tod a children are a big commercial market. they spend billions trying to get themddicted to certain brands. i remember going tohe sre

th mchilen a wking downhe alef th grory ste ani woeredhy m 2-ye-oldas wtinghis. they should realize to keep their hands off big bird and "sesame street" period. >> they were lobbying you. >> i want thes swe eeri, i' le, i notoingo are wi my yearld autth. >> iis n jusa chdren prram. ey wld bableoet adrtisg fosesa strt." e reason you have public broadcting is for all the program that is can't get adverting. so there are arts pgram or educal ogra. the arhilophic isss you y wt toxplo tt you wod neret corrate suppt for. an pbss not out tre f that sort of thing. >> it feels like the point bob is making here is precisely ts largerattl gng on he betwn decrat and reblicseedi t me claitherare me ss o thinthats areubli gos, th are n up r sponsorship

or privatization. >> one of the things of pbs is when you look a "sesame street" you seedy verse filieand chdrenaugh to vueheir edatio en y pratete chilen's prrammg, y areot oy lk aut aertinguthe ograing s toit the advertisers. so you're looking at shows like nickelodeon or disney whereou see ungomen incriblyhin causthe beay iustr was th touyheir procts lar. you e ks who wtll othe last ectrocsnste o beg eitedo go t scol. you' making future consumers not just through the advertisers but if pbs were to have advertisements you would have companies invested inhe progmminto me se our futu conmers aoing wha th wan >>t's ieresng point isothat my wdidn' wan a tice m eo whe he s t g al, but she does not want to look like elmo. elmo is notaspiration. lawrence, i wanted to ask you out atspirionaspec causit fee to me smuch

youwo,artilarl ound t bla mide cls anuppe ass,s abohe tionf th mdle csss asratial. wanto listen really quickly to our vice president who was making a very -- i'm sorry, not listen to, i'll tel you what the vice president was saying here. whene waiscuing the mile css h actlly fine asspiriona singiddl clas filiespiroome owrshi a carcolle, education for their children, health and retirement security and occasiol family vacations. that's actually the u.s dertme ofommee and ve pridenbideayin thiis wh the mdlelass . th sto i jt tol was tha esamstre" isur piraonaliddlclas it'sheind of community we wish we lived in. is that what's dying in our current economic circumstances? >> that's at is dying, liss i thk abt the tee afrin-amicanhildn wh lookt sws on pbsnd s thselv ashelb poied out,heyee tmsels reflected in the programs and say, that's me.

that's who i am. my kids were so excite when michelle obama appeared on "same reet herehe w telng tm h t ow gdoodshat y canat d ty fthatoulde m onday. anwe d't see thatn mmeral tevisnhat' med yngeoplecau their goal is not to show t diversity of children that are out there. their goal is to figure out cross promotional programs a way t lnchhis pticur siing ar o ts tv swo ey wilbe ae to o rade arodhe coury t ll wt ty a selling. >> it is not a multi-linguistic demographic for years, since the '70s. cong ,e'll tk mor on e milelass and specical it h bee a baful ek f mt romn. th1% i goio try t exain it all way away. that's next. [ dog ] i am not a sheep... i'm a sheep dog! don't want to just eat plants. [ do2 ] at di lo lik rabb? ah, ybe,ut ion't wanto ealikene.

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> tholits otheiddl clasis aut more than policy. really it needs to be personal. candidates search for their own storylines that connect them with the average johich for tt rney cane a bit of a strule. judent re, tis peonaloots we simyot wn ithealtf th eart whene hself bame an en pperan largely through this work at bain capital and that work has dogged the governor all week. it began with a major story out of"t bosn gle" qutiong whh yritt mneyever his ts wh inpita th queions kepming not en t cond for vp floar cod st the tide. so last night governor rney granted a series of interviews to address this issue. >> in feuary of99 lt bain cital a lt a manamentuthoty a respsibity f thefirm i hongoi actity or

involvement in the affairs of bain capital. >> so, see, no matter what the explanation the estiremas lroey's dograicar t ddle class voters? shelby knox and lawrence otis graham, lawyernd historian, i don't think jusecau youe rieansou cant coect, t i ve t say the fte n't owlear wn hs rkin whehe's nrkin whetr orot hs gog to rease e tas, is this the bar? will middle class voters look at mitt romney and say, okay, yes, this guy understands mpain? >> that' notappeng alrey. i an, ihink you s it reflted the pos. theyee ts gu as kin of a diant gure 's t epime of e 1%. actually, 1/10 of 1% maybe, but i think the biggest -- and i think that's actually romney's ggesprobm, bausehe reblics wod ha an

enininhisconoc viroent dinaly, but opleememr the bhears andhey rember whahapped the ecomy. they don't blame obamaor the state of the economy. they recognize what he inherit and it'sery ey to assiate romnith thaa. espiallf hs floing ndi ce a his vp. >> he does nothing to disassociate himselfrom that and that's a fundamental stake. >>et mtalkboutheaxes pieca lilebi th b conrsatn is tt priden omaantso tend thbushax ts. i' bee wderi if thiis so of lanage tempto predent obama and george bush together, but i wanted to correct just like one piece of misinformation. the way that so much media has beeneporng tss th ide at psidebama iilli to rai tes overy usehd th mes or 50,0, whhs notuite ght. just want to say this right. the first $250,000 of everyone's

inco is safe, ifou ll. d it onl t mgina oporon or, sf you me 00,0, its on ohat $50,0 ov. the a way i whi $250,000, when people say that, for what part of the world does that feel like middle class? living in louisiana, that feels like rich folks. >> i think there is a par of e wod whe parf thi untr doefeel lik mdle clas but it's vy sma partf thcouny. s frcisc newyork. we are in it. >> in fact, "sesame street" is in it. new york city. >>ost amecans do not thina falyakin $25000 yr a midd ass, tyelie yove ge bondhe mdle ass en y g ther >> amelia, als wn y lo aterta commitie cities that historically were successful in memphis. my parents are both from memphis, nnessee, where there was a thriving middle class ther my gndfaer h a sucssfu ucki comny a reauras. yolookt tseommuties

now,he bck counits, paicully ithos citi, arcomptelydemate my we irom troit. same situation there. mitt romney is from another detroit. he's from the gross points, from the exclusi prite scols. he tal abo intifng wh thmidd cla, b he was man oseathean a mor toanufturi comny a s faer w als carly a presidential candidate who was more forthcoming and more able, better able to connect wh the middle class thanis ownn. andorero cil rits. yese oosedheacp rely aa pr i a nartive th wasomplel false and also was a way in which to throw black folks you should the bus to valvize his own audience, that's whahe's de tgo ter e mdle cla by rowi bla fol undhe s. thiis a nanelos cla th thi was arop to gethe os bauseetti booed by black folks is good for shoring up a base.

>> you get the tea partis - was hisiste soler mome, tohrowhisroup der eus toayook how stro andough . wil sak ainst bla fol whwantree uff, tt'sot what tfric-amecan community is looking for. >> right. even the notion that free stuff is never free. in fact, we pay for it with these taxes. the ia tt wareotur govementthers th gornme givg ustf, w are taxpers. >> waretaayer but ilso ink is tt romy w opsed e il of gmhich wod ha destroyed a whole lot of the middle class in michigan, but more importantly i think he's endorse it is paul ryan budget, which is thost vastinglirreonsie buet a just budg. th are prosinnotnlyo ntin theush xuts for llioires abillnair. ov 125 each, but to give them another $265,000 in tax cuts, the top 1% ds n neeore x cu. d i st tnkhiss th mostypocte cl eort t ta abohe bge defit

whilyou ndway tllio mo. >> let's look at the picture of this. as much as president obama wants to extend the bush taxcuts,he fact is tre's difrenc beeen at t p's pla i an wha psideobams pn . its so carn tsraph at i budgets are moral documents, if our tax policy is an ethical document, these are the ethics th is o top this desees areak in thi cntry day. xt, we' tk b abo esidt obams scialhe rea to eiddl ass. what is his middle class story? where does it come from? y shld o waltsell at o favite lor ? and ery otep suld ll us wmadehe rht disio evy ro des. whewe c fl ouwaythugh e nest, softest, and most colorful options... ...across every possible price range...

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iestyears jt thtory yesteryear. bob herbert, shelby knox and lawrence otis graham. shelby, that kind of sterar ory,hat es tha meanor ung oplen youneraon? you useo cou o piraonalvote tking out e 25000,yenerion esn'evenhink tha we e goin to make 250,000 a year. fewer people are -- fewer young people are homeowners, ware rentg an ming bkn wh ourent th idef th mideclas i' sado say,he noteall one hav whenresintbama is tking abt mhelloba, whae've goto rembeere is that 42% of american women don't have enough income to meet basic household expenses thatoes u t 66 whe youe lkinabou aicanmerin wome dd the pay gapn ere,% forwome 66 cen othe llaror african-american women. so he can tell this story. and it's o that needs to be

told. but he needso b speaking th rlityf aricayoun oplespeclly arica younwome weeall --e are devtate out ere d w kw t chnges >> isntertinghe sort of aspirationals a pekts in this idea when you look at the hard facts, it feels like this story of t govnmenblue clar rkerthe syt homm, thkids tt g toprinton, thatoes notist. >> tt do not exi buter storis a rl ory. mitt rneys trying to appropriate it to tell his own story, but i went to princeton and harvard with miclle robson at that ti. dhe and cra we dno rth gulapeop who you knew we gogo wor hd in der me the filyack in chago oud them e thg abt it is tt we e soany ofhose successful families now not being able to repeat that with their own ildr. iny bo, "our kinfople i g a lotf hea fm th jacknd jil bcklite crow bu whasappeng i the's

a srtomen itime ae've hadhislack success as entrepreneurs and investment bankers and lawyers, but we are the first ones to getcut. on we get cecaueon't vehe dee rervo o twor and conctio and o y conctio theay grge bushhaeorg ud ttell e sty wh he gduat fm yait a c-average he could still become president. that can't happen. >> only in certain bodies. that's right. >> absotely thers ctain aunt ite il pvile tha goe ong with andhat'ot te for l whe mili, bu for wellonneedamils lihe bush. the genatio ofeo i the senate or high level government officials. that's how a c-average white guy can get to harvard busines school and then gon to bece present atoesnappe in e bck a brocounit >>t'sy forit sriesf th obam. th paifftude lns mentbefo heookhe oath of office for the u.s. senate. that to me is sort of what middle class feels like. you are still burdened wh studentoans beces senar.

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the perty lineet's be clr whallsn ttego. anndivual wit an annual income just below $15,000 or a family of four living on as little a$3000 ar. berehefforble caract pand theociasafe net to cch tse peop,hey mplyere t quite poor enough to qualify for health care and still are not in the seve states whose governors seem contempt to let them continue to slip throughhe acks as wiscu ming an appl to t mide clas iti haveoonde w f tho stltruging toet in tha clasthei ooverrs w denyhem st ltle bit of help, still we me at the tae, shel kno lawnce is ahamit fls lehe porty ne iaette denitif thor, a deniti of amil ofour isti on $30,000 as wealthy enough to buy health insurance is just wrong. >> absolutely.

and millions, tens of mlion peoe ha bn hped befo. an thefforble althare t is aajor stefoard. it's aonisngo me at any goveor wldhinkbout turng do 100% federal funding and then 90% federal funding to help its people get one of the most basic hum righ tha tre . tes h a lar nberf insud pele, miissii, louiana,ll ttherav drugheireet in fcing medicaid for the poor and children's health insurance for the program, there are millions of people w can get lp. tensf llio, andhe ia at gerno areayin we e t gog to hp oureopl ay o o me cosy ergey room sp sufring ath d pventle illnses is just astonishing. i do hope that the voters in those states will really look and say, is this right leadership forus >> o ectlyhatesti, t issuofters boy, iant to a ybout this

boy jdal i mygornor th#fbj, forget bobby jindal, but the whole point why we can't forg himecau the demoaticarty in the sta o losiandid t pup a rl ndide agnst m. li you can ve f seone se uess the's rea ternive. how do we get the politics, can the national democratic party say we're targeting texas and losianwhertheyreurni down bic rigs? the demrati pty suld doi tha but ihebsen ofoingat,eopl wre ncerd ne to to vots themlvesnd g the to start pressuring politicians actually in both parties. we have nearly 50illion american who is a oiciay pooryhe feral stastic and ideles. anotr 50illi wallhe nearpo,ust a nchr t abe thoffial pertyline. that's almost 100 million people, which is about a third of the entire u.s. population, poor or nea poor

atindf mdlelass soety hatfou heo ma peoe ling porty? >>t's not aiddl css sociy, is ttrowi difference. the claim was just me about it being a basic right and what's good for the people, but people who have health care go to wk d ty en wes and ty p eir lls on time it i als gd enomi delopmt. but messa, tight gornoror sen gerno dot ca abo th. that's a strategic move for them. the same move when january brewer, the governor of arizona, waved heringer in the facf oupresent. is w allboutendi a meage er sports to galizeer ba. thesare polical mos. it inot athey a ying we don tnk t heah ca program is good for our citizens because they know it is, but it is thumbing their nose at the supreme cour thumbing their nose at the president andakin su toalvaze theesidt. >>t's olital move ey a n ming alaim that notod,of there ing py potics let

play it. these are the folks. if you're watching from one of these states, the gornor, fb and e st, the gerno i ying don carhat y ne heah re i n't re tt it wilbe fr to otateitiay. we aust n gngo do th. >> and aside fro texas, originally, one in four texans is uninsud. ck per haslrea pvene do not caraboutheitizs ofistate wn he ge u miionsn fedalolla f familanng proams d canc sees bausee ntedo me a political point about planned parenthood. in this case we have to be really, real clear as to who they don't care abou and that wom andll folf lor. causthos are t peoe thatre goio be ht mos by t rusalnd ric per is ying i car morbout my presidential ambitions because that went so well the first time than i do about the millions of texans hped by this. >> rick perry is goodxamp beuse itiay, yaw

thsort of rk pry o gornor ming nse the hpb ccin iniallynd he bac pedaled from it, turned around and did a jump-shot to pro tend the hpbacne was a bad ide beuse meho it bece gornmeenoachnt you w t piticimpa ople heah i that >>xact. thtexalegiaturmuch le the s. cgres snts much time trying to eliminate poverty as they do trying to make sure women don't get abtion the the wod beo porty i xas. ey p 80% morthan oths i her stes bause tyre coring the uninsured. this expansion would alleviate a burden for folks who are already buying their ownealth inranc >>et m rnfor at the taxyersf th texre ing pay this the onominaxs gngo se bausehey are turng wn bilonsnd billions of federal dollars they need and

spend billions on uncompensated care for those with low birtateabie tt wl ct forte. 's t taxyersnd t citins otexa and the onom and ware ae t g the sine comnityo jn inryin to gexas t enforce the children's health program because there was money. they were turning down billions of dollars. >> the middle class h heard evenf ty are n cered b the medaidpansn,hey are gogo payor the folnd theetti mical caruch o la. >>hen i cts even more. that's why it is so obvious mitt romney's medical program he had in massachusetts was the same thing thas gngn here >> s! buhe c'tdmit tohat caushe h tolay the fa righ soe's ming tse policall expedient moves even though they are against the middle class and the very people to benefit from news programs. the argument othe divial maate, teaso repuicanlikeitt rneyut itnto plac w the sse

itas autndivual sponbili? beuse herwe itallsn taayer thatsed be the line. now the line is what did president obama do? we are for the opposite. >> exactly. logic goes out the windownd theolitalxpedncy dermin the da. >>t fls morthanust policalexpeent. mhinkg y havthe fir african-american woman admitted to the bar in mississippi, i think. the story of mississippi is tha ory assisistce, whicnerta par witut polical decey,ut ielt i wasore authathan jt winng theext elecon. it was also about the sense of youpeople do not g to be part of t american story. >> thais right. i think what we have going on here itheesurnce othe olbad uff. werseei cris go up weee racl profiling and violence going up. i think some of us think that

the black community and the blk chd anhisount are fang o othe wst cris in tms ofackwds mobity, ckwas acons in the reconstruction area. if you look at massive incarceration at the pipeline, ok at the job market and t noenfoemenof vy bas righ, lk atoter suressn, ts isangeus me whacis her w nd to deal with. >> in fact, we are going to look at the issues and unemployment as we go on latern the ow, bufirse argoin t tk abt thessuefility seal saul e s it s haned t way the controversy is tackled. i'm going to talk to congresswoman spiers next. one at'sorki to trac sinees a cree jo.

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tesnvolng sua sconct baleootamp struors wardemal cr. ta a lk at ttaggering statistic. according to "the washington post," approximately 25% of the instructors in the 331st training sadro snd chaed andernvesgati f xualmiukts one aine haseen crged th ping oexuay asulti tenwoman. democratic congresswoman jackie spier is urging the house armed serves cmitt tool heargs on tsates bck eye r t mitarandas t birtisuppo of 7 lleaes in ngre. representative jackie spier is joining me from san francisco. thank you for being herehis morning. >> i'm happy to be with you, melia. conessm ier,ow doe e chnf comnd me thi prlem sexlssau wors thehainfommareat envonme whe the's an inherent conflict of interest.

the numbe of cases of sexual assault where the victim has to portoerctuapist i hi or t sexlssau i the sultf arienf th commander. so it creates a con flikts of interest that as a resultewer pele auallrepo the xual aaultr pe. th's wt lacknd, ty ha intifd 1victs, on oneas repted e crim so plai to me, you have a legislative effort to challenge this, to move it outsi of the chain ofcommand. what would tha eort do? >>o it wou kp it the miliry b mov itutsihe chnf coand. soictiould rorto a spial vtims un,hich would be staffed by experts and investigations and prosecution. and then they would make the decision whether or not toov foard th t case rit noyou ve a uni commder somneight abo

at ut cmand who has n lelxperncendvalues thse. d ty a judge and jury. they make the decision whether or not an investigation and prosecion moves forward and they decide who isoingo be th invtigar anhos gog toeheprosutor it's rl staed dk agast e viim. ngrewoma i flsike onef thchleng, lkily you have bipartisan support on this, but it does feel to me like one of the challenges we as a public typically don't want kn badhing aut our lita. wenderand eresses tt soiersre uer, parculay inhe conxt o lonar a multledeoymes. hodoeush past tsulture of silence in oer to poubly size this enough to protect women in the mitary i tnk unt very rentl therhasn bee rognion th thi iue io widprea in themitary 19,0 cesf sual asslt d peear by dods own statisticsnd only 13% report.

and if you look athe statticsevenithhe fort undeay, and ielie at sectaryanet wan to the riging, bven so e acal nber of courmartls a convictions has dropped over last year. so we are not doing the right ing. mewhil the vicms a ctimed aeconimeer and don'ant hav memrs of t lita, bot men and won, w enste mor liky toe victims of violence from someone within their own unit than from the enemy. >> now you've bee verylear thatou bieve thi is a syemicrobl, not jushe sue ortfne o bad behaor. e oth stf ndamtal systic tng we are seeing is the increase in military suicides, so much so there's more u.s. militaryembe w st tir les their own hand suice, tnctuay i afanisn itse.

doou see anyorretion betwn th kd o systemic problems that allow and encourage and hide this kind of sexual aault and theindf syemic proems at mht b asciat wit thi aalli suide te? >> y kn,he scide re is jarring. one every 80 seconds among veterans and one a day among tivemitary l othe expes say the's t engh mey bng snt o ment heah seicesithi the lita,hat' abo4% and muc likexual assault, that's the focus of being on the victim. somehow they created the environment. somew tyress provativy. on t ce o suide a meal hlth ises, it' sow the spse's flt if the's arriage situation, it's someone within the family causing the problem. so we've got to stop inting

theinge and srt deang th t ccer tt ests wiin t stemnd fixit >>hanku, conesswan ckiespeirer. we greatly appreciate your hard work on this issue. >> thank you. up next, i have an incrible story of aothe w foave e mdere o herwn so bo are goi tooine ne. dot goway. ♪ [ acousc guitar: upbeat ]

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murderas senncedo several years in prison. after the initial incredibly tense meeting, mary and oshe m regurly aary eveuall foave os. en hwas releed aer7 yes in pron, sheelcod m ho, teray. oshe liv nexoor to mary. as they continue to force their bond, they are an example that forgiveness is indeed possible. moine fro minapoly ryohnsnd oshe isel. ank u fobeinhe. >>hankou f hing . >>hankou f havg . >>ry, you talk about thi as a faith journey. tell me your reason. >> well, i am ahrisan woma d myord tls mnrder to be forgehat you mt forge. anit iith. th is at hotte me to the place where i'm at today, to be able to sit next to oshea and

for us tgo all orheorld sharg oustor >> youknow iaveo s whe firsheartheory, iad manixed emotns, t hea, wonderedf you feel a sense of responsibility now in how you live your life because e le thaou tk i tha of my hnsos n. doou he rponsilit to live goo lif i hisplac >> i wouldn't necessarily say in his place because i can never fill his shoes, but at the same time i do hav a resnsibity toysel to meure i ce ouherend s theight exame beuse mmitng m ime, ietherong emple d se l ofeopl llowg behind those steps. so i have to show that regardless of the past, what i've done, that i can come out here to redeem myself and we can be suessf. d, youknow i hor of my ju to ow hth, hey, i

caus thiain boreut that nothat inttion are now. i nt t sho y that i can be a success story and her son didn't die in vain. >> mary,s there sething for you ermsf bngbleo wa thi fai phnd wal th spa toforgeneshat u fl cled ty your understanding of god and god's love? something about the fact they were young when this happed. your son, ,osa oy a enag. is tre sethi aut tm st bngeenars thaade mor posble fou t rgiv >> wl,'ve bee aed tt bere,nd at the time, you know, the age did not even come up at all. that osa was oy6 and my son wnly0. ieallan't say tt tha had anything to do with it. i reallyan't say that. >> let me a you thisoshe i

hear you s somhing aut waing be sucsssty. lk t mit aut yr tim ing incaerat. wod yosay the things happening to you or for you in your period of incarcerati helpedouo alace wre you can sucssfu ors ibout th lov andautourn o maryohns tha bris y t thatlace >> ihinkt's comnati of both. excuse me, being inside, you woul't get a chance to do a lot ofersonalreecti, ge toind thoou a a a rsonigurut hoit in therld. ok a the stak tha y ma and how you can go about doing things differently. even when i was inside the prison, i was just doiumb stufan i gotohe pnt whe ieedeto dometng th myse. educion s alys bn portt so iregt self

e prram is inside a prison and i start taking those. the more i started putting inside of myself the better i stted feeling abou mysfnd the re iante to the ght ing. becae it bece norlo me lening agring,ith rying along and the forgiveness part, it liberated me more to the fact that i didn't have to feel as guilty about trying to ce me, be suessf and bome mewh -- tt iidn' hav toccomish methg. in t bacf m hd tk iltyecau i took a life and don't deserve this. >> mary johnson, osheaisel, m appciate of e convsati ware goio ve tay o ronciationd forgiveness. ms. joson, you are an absolute image of, in fact, what a christian woman is. i areciatehat you have de he. >>hankou.

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re liky toe waived to the adult justice system. from the ages of 10 to 17, black kids are more than five timess likely ashite kids t b arreed f aiole cme. remeer, eserehildn w are tking abt, n pdone crimals d ma ohere viimshemsvesf enomi d soalacto thare out of their control. factors that could be fixed if the adults in the room for paying more attention. at the table areary n wght adeln, pside othe ildr's denseund, b rber siorello a demo thexecuve director of of college and community fellowship, and glenn martin at the fortune society. thank you for being here. gln, i want to srtith u. ll me wthe schl t pris piline is >> re. esntiay wee putut chdren unftunaly o a pipene fm ecatiight in therimil justice system. mostly young men of color, young black and latino men, but

increasingly young black a lati wom. inead pendg te in edatinour yoh, we e crinaling havi tha jus 10 t5 yrs w n iminizednd the response to it is no longer a trip to the principal's office. it a trip to the local police precinct on youre i the crinal sticsyst,t is extmely rdo exaate fro th. >> i tnkolks somimesiss thatartilar int,hat the crim tha peoere curntly being incourse rated for were not crimes of very short time ago. because i think it is real ey when we sta talng aut priss anjuvele cour rati. we say,ell, y are imin, yo bro t la we he tememrheaws move around. we decide what's legal and illegal. it was illegal to be black sitting at public lch counts at o pnt in ts couny, righ so wtre the aernaves

incourse incarceration. reverend nixon? >> we need to dealithhildn asust at, our chdren. ere e famies iolve whe lkinabou chilen. genatio appache nee to be ppeng. weeed t bddreing t prlemsndamils csing chdrenoct out in ways now criminal, because you have police in schools and you have children who are going t act out because it is a nuralart ofhe gwing up press. it ealat or te as i ge addrsed d iis undresd beuse filieare not ing addssedn ou counities. resources are scarce in the community. parents are stressed having to work two to three jobs to survive in ts economy. d theforeaisihildn come mend mor difcult as te gs on ahere aret suppts i oeroddre these minor infractions before things become out of control. >> this seems so important to me, somebody says, it's the famies a somow icome beatouridsnd yel aour

ki, bu ts noon that ok, en whave fdnd curi, ki comto sool hury. en pple e losg hsing th end u doubling and tripling up in households to create stressors. i was shoed t schoo as vlenc a actg uccur at tnd othe nthecau od stas hav rut a ds a ngry no o h donore on e broad structures our kidsre facing. how do we keep kids out of the school to prison pipene? >> i would go back toheradl toriso piline thinthe zo tolance scho displin poliesave go to b chand. thnumb ofhildn expled from school are being -- are committing nviolent offenses. uanc whasens ds iake to p ahild out of sool beuse ey a notominto scol? 80 of our cldreot lrnin in sool e n gting wha th need and are not respecd.

sure, they are going to act out. if they don't have health care, attention deficit disorders, we haveo meurehey ve wt ey nd in ord to arn,ut are cminazing 5, 6, yearlds. n't ll mthat adus in a hoolettianno fure out why 6 or 7-year-old is having a temper tantrum and how to solve it in a school and not call in three pole toandcf em. havgot sto this ande've g t hav cmon sens >> wento floda o aas anwrotebout ihere a 6-ye-oldirl o wain kindergarten was arrested, put in handcuffs and put in the back of the police car f having a tantrum kindgart. befe mo cldeto scol. the hdcuf wer too lge to f arod h wris. theyad to p the uroun herbiceps. this is really sick behavior. >> for me, a bigger problem is the fact that when that wentut acro therwav, wn peoe

sathctur, tre w not the tragack inheivil righ moventhen aw peop getng hosed down. >> that's the question. >> i'm glad you brought up the civil rights movement. what y said was important, that we have not been locking people u a ts re forer. weee tnd otheivil rits e and the hug sken incarcerations. but to go a bit further, we are also attaching invisible punishment to those convictions. so we are setting kids up for ilurthroh coater coequees. youave nvicon, y n't to hoolhere ifou he acoicti, you n't te re. youave convtionyou n't t aicenhe. in my way a stem this inherent hypocrisy where we tell people, once you come out, do the right thing and get your life back together. wait a mite,ou c't go to scho. >>his theory, if you ha alonyyouan'tive in blicousiret a feral stent an. ere'tons o jobnany stes tt you simply can't be a barber in some states.

you can't get a job, can't get an education a you have nowhere li. of crse opleo bac int thsyst. >> a tsociehere ware trng cldreasults aginbeinahild6 yes olgettg cvict o a cme in adult court in a state where because you were convicted you can never vote i your entire life. the community is singeon't nt yo youre nart o us d th soety. >> l melarihat the jori of ildr putut of scho areut o o sool r noiole ofnses millions -- we've got 7.1 million folk who have been in prison or under the control of the juvenile orrimil jtice syst. ma ofhe a tre f noiole offees. havraci disriti and inme dparies a who get chged and who goes to prison and what their ter are, so this is the unjust system. >> that's what we have to deal th. we e going to tk me abt th and scifill o is queion of a stemhat

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in battleground states like florida and virginia one in five african-americans simply can't vote. i t ce ootin polics i prinso gan inand and the imptant stinion whoenefs wn e twmi at t tabre myrigh edelman, bob rbereverd, wh doet mn wh the noti of beidiserancsed of the ime? >> we have thousands of people coming through the door involved in the criminal justice system. i happen to live in a state where youetour votg rhts backt cerin pot. wh iot offarol aried egisro vo, th loc ard lectns td m ias tligie te, en thou t law in new york state said different. that was my introduction to this issu wh you thi ofowo kee peop outf pron, youan findoette rece fo

geing opleo refend tn to me tmeel le the a notart of e sialbric a grt wa to tts t take away the right to vote. when i talk to individuals about the right to vote, some say my vote doesnount yway. vors a dinfrahisehere th t votgpress, but wh i sthem i y, ift is not important, why would they take it away? in my opinion, i'm not sure wh we take away their ve to rig all. kno peoeown a nch and ke ayllheghts unfounaty, wdon'have cereny t hp tmecogze theyre oe ain pt of society. >> michelle alexander calls it the new jicrownot becausof thbrowand bla bodi, but peop whore jtimpl dinfrahise >>ome oplehinkhis a jor yolital poweent,ut ts h bee abt por a the right to vote you take away the vote but also the economic disempowerment.

many who gonto pso cant gea j, caot fdhoing, thiss a moray to undmine eie bncy of communities of color and a poor community of color. it is the new gym jim crow, but we heoreakt up >> wneere tking aut the 8' b bdn the fir ur,e wer tking abo this notion of privatizing, there are people who are gettingconoc befitsrom inrcering r mmuny. thas a gssue but we ouldot le sit othe ct tt th replica par benefitsirectly from this because they are disenfranchising people who would vote overwhelmingly decrat. >>ne ifivelackoter i viiniandorid th's t elecon. >> tre y go

>> o iive bckvote, w knowhe vt majity of the votes would go to president obama if they were able to be cast. >> i work on legislative iues with opening up opportunies r the iolvein t crimal jtice syem. i'llever fgetetti dow wi a setor. we wenhe disict ine prisons, he took a look at the buding and said, this is great but news are not my people. i have ner had tha response ev, be wa cryallear wi me. thesare tyfolk meang ese e no replica tes, od ck. >>'m goio loshe ivatatio i becse it is a big issue. oplefolor andmmignts e of e cor polati. th jussent a letr t 48 statgoveors offingo run eriso sysms for 2 yea if they could be guaranteed a 90% occupancy rate. our states are spending --

weon't wan ppleoiss at. theareuaraeed a % ocpanc re- ande've got toee wt is ing he. is ipart of a bigger privatization movement, not just bi bird, buteoplant ivate sial curi. th is aut a b eer rol of gornme, buthe stas nd wak, o. beuse eostf incarcerating more and more people. they are spending 2.5 tes re, at'she dbest invementolic can tnk of >> a i wt toiveou the lastord is. if tt i aad way to spe oumoy, wtrehe alternives to incarceration for young peop? w can speur w o o bause it deolical

issu butheree dopendur moy maers. eed to be investing in opportunities for people to have employment thaleads to sustainable and living wages. we need makeure that wn oplerereleed fmriso becae weo haeoplin ison we ve t wonr whatoing to hpeoth. th the areotaws i pce th barhem fro jobs, bar them from school, bar them from housing, because that's a recipe for disaster. we have toddresstraties thatddre not onlhedult inrcered b thehildn o the incaerated as well. >> two things, access to education. i was lucky enough to get a college education while i was on the inside. cond thin hope meontookhe te t sto an sayo me,ou co beer. u cado diereny. yocane eduted. you n chgerfe. an tha- tsewo tngs combed, think, a part othe recipe to help us reduce the criminal justice system and go back to where we should be. >> let's talk autoday prons,ou cld net the

colle deee bausen 1994 fedel gornme madt ilgal reopl in prin to reive pelgrano go t school. >> i think this is -- right where you are is where we will leave it today but not forever beuse thinwhatou he ne, parculay i lik h u brght bac t the mont wh sheands. hnso hid hadn oppounitto lrn wle incarcerated and an extraordinary person who came in with hope and rgivess. mae if wemagid ourlves ayinthatole asociy, tualhinkg o theoung pele as valble eugh t inve inheir edution ao prove hoor . we wl undoubtey see you all back. thank you, vivian nixon and glenn martin. more with mary a bobortl cing up, t urgteman r a grong niona csisf dend a youre js

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ando methg. myrodurnd i weoing through this, she was just sending me graph after graph and i was sending her-mail after e-mail sayingan you believe these numbers. we are lking at tumbef ildrnmeri in povey. ju sor of rning thrgh at se of ts loolike havkidsivinin perty in 2010 nearly 40% of african-american children. more than a third of hispanic children. and more tn o i tenhite chdren thene weooki at the nuer oinsud cldre also binghis o byra, oninixispacchdren onin ne aicanmen chdrennd o in ten white children have no insurance. we were looking also at educional achievemt,here ds a inermsf the abity to auall cplet highchoowith fou yes. u're lking anly % o afrin-amicanhildn in 66% of hispanic children actually completing. then the one blowing our mind as we talked about this prison thing, the percent of children olorho me up, who are i

th colge popatioersu e pron polati, rit? solackenake up 5% o colle stentsut% of prisersn tame thi he th hispanic adult men at 12% and 16 okay. the feo g,o enorus, thatyirstense i ju, wh inheorld aree goi too abtat? >>e aroing to rseur voes a we eoingo create the nonviolent movement that says, stop. we are not goingo go backwards. the whole emise of the first cil rigsovemtaso ve o cldre aette life an wwanthem toaven ucatn. thfacthat 80% o bla a lati sdent cant re or compe in fourth, eighth or twelve grade level. it is a social and economic death. what are you going tdo i t glalcono whe youanno readr compe. ere readis aisasr leing theact tt bck boy s ane inhree chae i he w b i2001, going to

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andi in e scolhoe do. >>ell,e ha mels and thi is aonfence ow tlose thgapetwe we kno wt works and what we can do. how to train people and how to fight poverty, but it needs to berganedn tingute ve t comogetr take sponbili. >> lovthatou a doi it in oh. it iaarrave abo swi stat andhe ft tha elecons ve csequces. ill co to come, last month's overall unemployment rate was up changed but for afrin-amicanit wt up iturnsuthere ver spificeasowhy. 'll plaithatext. this is new york state. we built the firstailw, thfirstradrout this i theest,rk state. the eate empes. th, so sai rout we lt ouedget,rk state. we tod, the's new new rk ste the eate empes. e th's wkingo atact bunesses .

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we leas for ju, the nuer jumped almost a percentage point to 14.4%. compare that with 8.2% nationally, which hd sady fr mo ju. eew bla emplment mber makthei w to o times white unemployment, remaining at 7.4%. unchanged was the lato rate which didn't budge from 11%, but those numbers arenly rtf the ory ly aountg fo thos actely ekinwork not why eyren' fding it to uerstd th, wehoul consider this. 21.2% of african-americans were employed by the public sector between 2008 and 2010. before and after the receson, afrin-amicanwere30 me like thaothe wkersoe emoyedn th pubc ctor an sce 2008636,00 public sector jobs have disappeared from the economy. it's a number that could soon be ineased by 145,0.

that howany govnmen rkermittomne sd he uld t wn he vowto quot send tmome whee became president. you wonder why he got booed at the naac conventi. stlith me iary writ elma thisame from government, jobs, teachers, postal workers, firefighters, when we look at what happened, it isovernment jobs being cut. no woer. thas ue, melia. th bla mide cls w blt onhe pubc secr js unli e whe mdle cls,hich was iltnobsorkior rpore amicahere the coul grant theould be a couple generations working for the company or workingor ibm. don't have deepez vr with thelackommuty at'seen parf th rpore counit so at i t a par ourtoryrur narrive. d th oth iss i a a tim wh blacks could get jobs in

the public sector working for the post office and working as fireghters or policeffics, weidn' nessaly hav t be colle eduted orave a gruatechooeducion. noit's a neceity. lonr lury becse whe the ite lkset c frothe corpate jobs, we have long before been cut from the positions. >> it is the thing making me most nuts about the unemployment nuers because we seehe ivat secr owlyaybe mely, gring. buthe plicecto- iust feellikeur resnse i c taxes. th public sector has fewer resources to hire people. >> we are throwing these african-american public secr emoyeeout wor a te when the's afu-blo deprsionnhelack commity. en tt .4%oble rat derstes e figure. that's the official rate, as you pointeout, those are t one sechinfor rk. bu io ioheommuties

an rectly w u in t rosburareanston y'll nd wleeighrhoo whe o h a legitimate job. go to detroit or east st. louis or camden or newark, it's hard finding a jobut there. it's gatmerin tgedy d pele aot ping enoh atteiono it. >> a we ve suctul oble in e econy. hav rognidobs becoming available in the private sector are low-wage jobs, not enough to lift youut of poverty. en we eissi thi enorus oortuty trespd to teeds of our chirennd ofhe worngfamies. aginf we created the jobs for the pre-consistenter garden schools so we could do public investment and save our children and savehe future wkfor of is untr >>e ke heang frothe reblics th this a gat govementgiveay prram,ut it iconoctimus creing jobsght? bret down more, black women most hurt by the recession

when it began a more likely to be in the public sector jobs for ery ten js womain in th prite ctor ey, won, loseourubliecto jo. ev wit thi recory, lot of t job we serce jo, construction jobs. in those areas check broken down by race, men are gaining jobs in those areas and womretill losi job i tho area hav to lootho iseing lpedy wch pgramand ry scifiabou makg se th we e hping tho rtai populations. >> yeah. >> the other greater loss that african-americans ve had to add to whathelb was poiing t ishat the pubc secr jobs prode gatensis a grea micalnefi soll tario pgramhat me aloith the grea secu jobs, when those become decimated those children of those families lose out as well and they bame aote/quot buen o our hostal syems, emerncy oms dhing lik at.

ultitelye al leecau weave payaxes tay f the progms. it artl the sryere of what's happening with thear on teachers where now we decided that teachers, unionized teacher who ear a dent p wh heth ce, riremt aread rki. soow i y're- y as t ricaameran wanteacr, maybcuttg yo jo b also the public schools suffer. so if you are sort of middle class-ish hanging on to t ttom rus,ouan't sen yourid to aecen pubc hoolnd i comundsn multle ys. >> idoes coound many otheolks w we e talkg abt ar colge educated or have even higher degrees. they lostheir jobs and they are out there in this terrible jomark and they staakin jobs thaeoplwith lser greeofducaon onc h. that pheshe wle tng downrd. w if y have young people who, for example, only have a highchoo diploma, they cannot

find these js becauseore a re o the js areeing ld b ppleith clege gree 's a triblsituion, scadthate'veot gng rit no >>nd simage t dropouts. imagine the chd in school who has never seen anybody work, ok? andon'theyee tt inheir turewhat the ienti totaynchoo in tyook at wt's gng o >> ty argointo endp in the me pce wre ty stted. if u lo at en ploynt res, the teen employment rate is 29% across the country, or 24% for whis and 15% for black teen sof youegin the wre ty n't ndobssoung peoe d th youeed a hher educion the fst eeriees showing up on time and having a ball going to work. you didn't earn much but you sort of learned something about what it meant to be an ploy. >>ght. hped delopheork hic,ou g ltleit o spenng chan. you ew wt iwas leo get

b, mbe g a little boost in salary and you feel proud. it just srts y off. >> tre anstition pridinthatn ou nehborodsightw,ha pride u poet mey a t ilit to sw up and atsti poible it' just not in the legitimate market, right? because you can learn all that selling drugs. >> and they are doing it. >>hat'right. so wn weome back i jus ing sayllhe tngs elbyust said fus a lite bionlack wom wremong thelowe gups t recover from the unemployment rate. shelby is jumping ship. [ birds chirping ]

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since then women have been much slower than men to bounce back. women have gained back % of jobsos durg teceson comped t n's 39ain cordg tohe natnal won's wceer. he terstionf womes slow recerndlack americans increasing unemployment numbers are black women who lostore jobs during the recovery than during the receion. en bck m gaid bacobs dung tecovy bckomen coinueto le th. d wi bck wenthe hd of morit o bck famies wi ildr,heyren' the only ones losing. still with me, mary ae rian wrht edeln, i'melliyo this is bad for african-american women. should the blackresident somehomade thisot te? sohow d fid it >> isot back obams

ult. are ithiserrie enomi doturnthe worst since the depression. and the vast majority of erics unrsta he s no the cauf tt. i sh tt back oma h do morabou bs, i geral. t he not civ rigs leader. what i think is thatis et ze havnot id csenoug atteion theoore memrs ofur sietythe opleith e let por inhat rt o thing. i think african-americans probably should he raised their voices louder than they had. and i would he lid toave en a sti wou lik to e a gre dea mor aivisto pu bacagait sof tse ings >> i goi toushack a lile b on th. so i feel like we just talked about the idea that was public sector jobs that were being

shed. this is a prident, first of all, youay he was not a civil rits lead. i'm ilineo tnk the fordle car act cou behe most rutabivil rights legislation since -- >> but not promoted asomething that's specifically to help rican-amerans. hel aot o afrin-amican-- undbted, but itasan enorus sprortiote ct. but is iaf th pubc sectavin been sharing the jobs, i live in a state where governor bobby jindalurned back stimulus money. where republican govnorssa, yoknowwhat ankswe a notoingo ta theoverent bs. en i plas lik wionsi ey leral staed ling f gornme wkers mtly under republican governors. >> we blamed that on the republicans, right? >> we do, but who ithe the en wsayhe are doiis. >>hemen! the whi m and se wte men. t lesruly loo a whore kinghese decionsnd who

e beg elecd. weave black women in the senate. very few black women in congress. should barack obamaave de re? ye but wase aood mo wave mag m tlimite sesm? wh? pridenbama i not, in fact, magical? he does not, in fact, have a wand? what's this you are saying, shelbyox? >>eing ihe rms credly iorta for bla womes voes t be sting ere sayi, acally ware re impaed idiffent ways e poly ho b tailored in different ways every sine time it's enacted. >> that's so true. this is a lot of why i think hilly clton en runng f esidt tt waso mh a messe iner campgn,he invoemenof men. when youook aorpote amica, it nheomenho ge the higher level industry positions. it is who is sitting in the boardroom. is it one woman out of 12 men to

ke t decionsut o hing? is king sur tre a men ine for ldersp potionto bngn pple ter em, not bebatehem d y, iin later for the rest of you. the same thing is true in government. when you pointed out the lkf black women in the sena, the alend msageith nody in e om wther iis a fale prucer on ehow to say, you n't yat. we he toake sure we have women' voice or message here. at same thing is true in corporations. >> rortehe ngreman sa, lo, if demrats reke e use, youant to somen in leadship y havto ge demoatackeadehip and majority in the house because there are so many more wen in the democratic party that you'll end up with wom in positions ofower incdinghe kdf sitis toakeome o the jo pgram comthroh. we ed me wen in t role nee me peoe o col in the room. weeed meeopl whoom om bkgrods ttan relate

to people in need. we need more people,e are not scared of saying the word poor. e priden cnot do lesseuild a whootf iserom e tsid litians n alws reond d cnot lea one. i n't ow h the m get through the day. he inherited two wars and a huge bad economy. he inherited a huge budget deficit from the bh tts. androm all o tse t 1% th havaidethe easu. ane inhited- people are crazy. many people are just out of their minds when we have alack president in the white house and they want to bring him down. >> tre w a sen sehow at h blanessloneould be sufcienoolvehe deep engrained decades of -- >> it is important to have this movement. you have to start connecting some of the dots. think of all the this we ha beenalki autereday. weave en tkingbout t

crle triso piline wha th are dngoids in hool taki awaducaonal oprtunies, diminishing middle class. lost job opportunities. voter suppression. there are so many things on such a bro frohat aeall haerin t liv o bla famies i thiuntr the nds t be b pushback, and that cannot come from one president in either party, black or white. >> the president did a stimulus progm th whe 30 to% wentow t or, h didt s or b sai mdle clas theoney was out the,t wa or. expded eir comeax creds an expded e chd tax credit. he expanded food stamps and gave us more money in education and early childhood. all thesere plic ctor so healki- >>e's lived so mh o his omisnd dsn'teliv chp mos li mitroey, mae i' pic condi rice. that's a cheap attempt to say,

women, i'm lteninging to you, african-americans, i'm listening toou. en tug aicanmerins n't ok tcoi ric a meonto rrese tir ews. >> m foritne ithe pigfdseleme,he mon for native american farmers held up and president obama has gott the money out. more in just a moment, but first it is time for a preview of eekes wilextt." > tnk y fth. present oma i on e smp in vgini tay wh a scdulepeec at 1:00 p.m we'lbrinthat tyouve. >> casey anthony's attorney says his brand new tell-all book will shock readers. i'm talking to him with some estis. >>and e st-s,he latt "bman"instlmen isack th chrtianbale bs it woh seng? > aominp i oice politics, i'm talking with you, melissa harris-perry. i don't have to tell you wt i discussed, but i think it is pretty good. have t say, i w lisning to maannd i wke, is

therchon henhe sai aotf stu ttousaid >> irewp reang her work. i was inspired. >> thank you, alex. so it is bastille day and w have gro of pplerepad totorm our ccumsncesf inalit comi ,'m goi t tal abt tiffence twee she in ame d gut anthe uragitakeso mit metis yo need a little help. our foot soldier is next.

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month. writer and poet bossy ikbe was diagnosed with bipolar disorder veral yrs and is t foun orojeat's a globnonpfit tha pmote ment heah arenend ucatn amgeoplf african descent worldwide. on july 2nd, there was a no shame day during which people livi wit and loving tho wienta illsses worwide coultellheir stors. onaptudnideo by fenist bgger andenta heal worr w gs by the name feminia jones. >> w hear people say, she' -pol,he schophric. u're dinin a pson by eir ychiric sabity a thatasicly stiatiz th. en sebodhas ncer doou say that person is cancerous? >> i love of that the project focus so inttly on sha becae she is coosiv

now,uilt is lgelyersol emion,'m glt aboot do my howork. but ame i collective and social and global. if i feel shame it's not just guilt for skipping my homework, it'sike feetupi and rthls. th is tentr argent my rent bo. ychogistcommlyefer t shame as a belief in the magnant self, the idea that your entire person is infected by something inhentl bad a pontiaycoagio. shamis t frfther ople knong authat maliantelfnd tho outse the rm areore vulrablto the paralyzing effects of shame. so the solution to wanti to hide in shame is finng a w to aow yrselto beeennd hearand this somhing tha bossrsel expssed beaufull pticayn a puic svice annncemt fo the project.

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hello, everyone. it's high noon in the east, 9:00 a.m. in the west. welcome to "wkend with alex witness." re a t fivrends ofhis hour kryenne arreed. w sech f tmeli earht's plan m whs bieber for hearing loss. casey anthony's tell-all book and plus happy bastille day. > two fnt pe pitic a esidt oba onhetumpn rgin today, he'll speak to veeters in glen allen in an hour. meanwhile, mitt romney med itz getng a l of tentn, t fmer gerno vingive iervis sang he ende h manemenwithain pita i99, after the obama

campaign rather picked up on a boston globe reporthat mr. romney's names were listed on rulaty filgsn a compy oicerhrou 200 duri hisnterew govnor romnespoed to a question that romney may be guilty of a felony by misrepresenting to the in tthec. the present' camign i thk haeen orages in mang tarlg theve. ihink theindf aacksre neatthe dnityf the president. ihink the president needs to rein in his campaign and talk about the real issues that people care about, wch relate to our economy. anwhe,resint oba is wehingn, speing towj-tv virniahort bore the inrvie hit tir wave >> ultimately i think mr. romney will have to answer the questions because if he aspires to be president, onef th thin y