timaly rponsle f the condt ofour opatio. >>ell, jning m now forore frt pa liti, msn contributor and political editor for the grio.com perry bacon jr. and molly ba. hello toou two. thks foini me. >> tnk y. >>'m gng tplayore. lly, lisn that mr.roey said durghat inrv >> didn't involve myself in any way with bain capital's enterprise after february of 99. >> not pticipatingn sgle meing thern peon - >> d't recl aingl meing or sine parcipaon in a iestmt disio by ba or psonn decion. i left the firm. i was full-time running the olympics in 2002 and in t years leading up to it. >> molly, one ofourates arties i tle omnes clr asud bn exanatn." m gueingou d'thinke nageto crify too mh wh ese inrvie. >> don thi so. i mean, you look at th answers he was giving.

i mean, he scheduled fe network interviews pretty much siltanusly clelyis mpai felhere was wo t the queionso res and ve hak a bigstatent, a g spsh. instd iteeme lik h jus muddd th wers even more. yo had him say, well, i was controlling investor in this entity and a lot of this st of busiss verage thaas n ve cle. an youknowould say tha thtrutdoes appr te sowhat comicat. th may bherobl t roey ihang, tt it's difficult to boil down in a simple way a complex situation. but, you know,f the idea bend thi nworkpade o inrvie was tffer a cle und te, d't thi h d th. >>ow aut y, perro y thin mr.omnes mea btz will help put this issue to rest or will it fan the flames even more? >> i think it will fan the flames even more, both on the x retnsssuewherhe w

unuivol oy o tse t yearam iivin ou why n relee me of the records? and the bain stuff, you see the answer we just showed, i don't recall is often a phrase tha inspires rorters t look into, wellyouon't reca, wt do tha exalyan d yo do sethi you jus don' rember youidn' d it whicmeetgs d atte? tnke on oped upore estions with his very legalistic kind of answers. >> how about this, molly? you're you wereith president obama yeerdainrgin. ofes scduleto sak therin an hrrso. ringn iervi on fday h ys hhinkoverr romy ll he tonswethes estis abt ba. does all the bickering over bain just feed partisans on both sides? >> no. i actually think it's only feeding theemocts athis poin yodon'hear aot of repuican youow, ring to mney defse a sang,h, t ofhisck, youow,his gre uff,e're pro o wh h did i buness. >> but why not? >> i think they're nervous. i thinkhat they sense is that

the obama campaign has don a ry gd joof chaing the bjecre repuican incdingitt mneywanto be talng aut th ecomy. you hrd rney keeryinto rn t pag inhose inteiewsesteay, d he coul't d it because there is a feeding frenzy right now on this bain issue. romney complains a lot about the fact tt obama doe't want to talkbouthe ecomy,ut h hasn beeveryucceful i evenng t demrats and obamfromhangg th sject to this likthis and oer thgs ttomne m consider a distraction but people want to know about. >> i'm going to change tinges i alittle bit. the latt quiipiapolln rgin swsresint oma winng byints do yeeithe camign hang a edg i the state of virginia? >> it's t big swing state, virginia, ohio, florida, they're the swing states they're spending lotf moy, ptty ch tdn tholls oba lea i virnia mor thanther stas t b clr.

thkey ing virniand why ama has advange i unemoyment there is 5.6%, unemployment nationally is 8.2%. so romney's argent out e ecomy t irovi i har to se in virnia causf ose numbs. erefe, oma h rlly stng aanta in virnia. >>moll yust pted litelly out an hour ago another article for "the atlantic," your title "why obama may be safin viinia >> is extly at pry w sayi. i uld ly a to at pt of e reon thecocnd ploynt picre is gooin virgin virginia, not only do they have jobs but with the government, the federal government in northern virginia and a huge proportion of theork rce mita lita. bo of ose e pele sentlly ttinaychks fromhe uted ates gornme. en ty he rneyalki aboucuttg spding cutting the cope of government, that's not necessarily an argument people in virg sirnlg are receptive to. ere' als vyarge

nori popatio herin virnvirg it is a staherehe degrapcs arendgn oba's vor. it getng yoger, les whit whe as lot of the states in the rust belt like ohio are getting older and whiter. i think the trend lines are mong tard the obam >>peakg o t yches, eresint i urggongrs toy to pas theax extsion r faliesakiness an $2,000 where do you think this battle is headed? how much do you think this will independent vote? all-important >>his i a gdssueor the pridenfor o ason e, hs ehasing the ft thator 98 o erics, wch aigmber mos peop, of ursehe'soingo kp t taates i place. and then if you look at the polling, most americansctually agree with the idea of raising taxes on upper income lks. theyight dagren wh velonstutespperncom bu esstial theresint i callg foax ineasen 2% amican pos sh mt arica agr

th t propal. this is a good issue for him to keep pressing on so as we talk about bain and this issue as well, these ar good issues for the pridenbecae thllow him pai mitromn as candate the alth >>o yoee it thaay as we, mly in. ah, soluly. wou a to th, 's sor of a populist argument. nothing is going to happen in congress in a likelihood. the president is framing thiss alln cgrestoo now, acno othisne pce of t expitionfhe bh ta ts. thiss a pitical argument for obama where he thinks he can get an advantage butongress is likely to sit on its handsnd it uil aer t eleion rack actn aartsf the bushax cs. man thks,gu. >> here wt wre asking all of you today. how much does mitt romney's bain controversy of matter to you? here are some of your respoes beginng wit ts --

in ds not matt. anspency a tru tter resint'sharacter matters. i'm concerned about a candidate that avoids questions. will he be kandity with the amican puic? tt'sain cordnly tter becae heays s buness perice wlelp himreat bs. matrs lot, because it goes to the core of who is mitt romney. ithows his character and also shows he has no proble with jobs going ovseas. epalki to me owitt dcebo. i' be adinmoreater. > newepor sho fmer penntate coa j paterno negotiated one lucrative contract with the school at the very height of the sandusky instigion. e u. tim repts he beg his tks in juary 11, t ve sammont heestied bere arand jur no monsater the $5 llio dl w falized as police closed in on sandusky.

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she'not bzennougo g t tohe ml orhe oppi --oohoppgt publ's o anyingike tha you know, she basically is in a new prison, and that is pson ofclusn. yea es save frnds? do she reauto yo doou ser almt li a frie toer now? wel y ow, kee in coactith r abo as ch i do wh any other previous client. there's no -- my job ended after the acqutal, an y ow, ofcour, liany oer peop, ar ccern forhe andheoes heeoplho care about her. >> one of those being her mother, which, while not surprising because it's her mother, there was certainly a recoiliaon tre bauseor ahilehey re o t ts. talkbout tirelatnshi w. >>ouow, i- a lf peop wonred y stoed- y i actually let everyone know

that i stopped representing her. and it was for this purpose. you know, i can't go on sakin for cey a h lif a geing lls ytime thers a sitingr sothinike th. i' whdrarom th. my j was that of a lawyer and that's pretty much what i do and what i talk about with the book, r ce,hat haened >> howbouthis the legaons abu by her faer. lk aut tt. th i man whoepordly attempted suicide. what was all that about? how much do you belie of those cusaons? youkn,n theituaons it's troling caus numr on youav typ of cme at i tostderrorte ime all crimes, and these deep, dark secrets get buried for years. we had mental heal pressials o evaated her and ld uthathe shod assisign ofomeo who w

a vtim sual abe. an she dn't ceorwand tell me this right away. it took a long time for me to gain her trust, and there were ceain sigterta pnts inhe ce ere, whe s finayid tel me wha she had en roug it didn't come as a great shock to me. >> so is this how you explain th way you describe her at points, which is justivinn heownalit ishis t kin o thi y ink d to th? we, y knowat's intestinabou cas anony, out easey antnyase, at aotfeopl don kw , foexample, the lies. the lies were there for many, many yrs befe caye tual er die yo know theannyad bn i exisnce o year is i gir who got uvery moing,ot dressed, and pretended to go to a job that didn't exist. >> right. >> and got her daughter dress

and pretended to drop her offt a nnyhat didt ist. r tw yrs. 're talki abo t wes. wee taing ouwo wle ars,aintningthis a circ ofmagiry fends tha so did notexist. so there was a significant amount of issues that we had to crawl through and try and get the tru from >> wtbout tha 1 calhat wee al hea wh sey' moth scrmingnto the pne out wting the pole to come because itmells like there's a dead body in the trunk of the car? and then thatort goes away ta aut thaandow youad to u tha to sti dend you ient >> wl,ou kw, wn w hrd the 911 call, we heard it just like eveone else and evaluated it, and the first thing tt you he wheyouiste to tt , th doenot loogo, escial forur ient butnceou lisn a ltle

cler, the's poi actually when george walks into the home and cindy tells him that caylee had been missing for a mont and hisirstnd natal reacon iuess w dd lenc and a of e testimony that occurred that night from law enforcement testified that the only twoalm peopl in the house were george and sey, a ndy sasicly hystical >> swhato yakrom th? >>ell,oukn, it's suecti ing. hover, i it were my granddaughter and she were missing for a month, i think i would have reacted more along the les o cdy as opped t th of orge >> shere is theruthere, jo? doou tnk y knoit? >> i have a firm belief -- i believe caylee drowned in the swimming pool. i think this was aery comn

trajhai pp tragy th hapned an comm gro of ople >> swhy uld ey to cove iup? in book i give various scenarios. >> oh, we're buying the book. don't worr >> tkboutiffent poibilies whyasey didn ste up. ialk aut dfere snari to y gege m notave eppeup. he s forr pole fice >>hat'corrt, he was. you know, that i think played a role in thi se. ihink the a cerin pectionshat u wld he fr somne bwhisex-l enfoementhat disss i thbook and weill nernow all o thenswe in this case. that's what people have to know right off the bat. so there are certa facts that are dispablend ihink once we loo a the ftshat wereeverade puic, man o

th didt me the news and many of them didn't even make the case or get into the discovery, so there'some signican fac in thi case-wh's intesti is, thbooks 0-sothin pes ng. 's ser ick. i d't cat anydy on the information. so i had to get everything out there for people so they can have one place and try and terme or me tir o concsionas twhat hpene or dn't happ. >>an askou, you kno whetr cas gso see caee'sraveite aays owerr go thet l? >> caylee was yes cighated >> ihere a mori? >>here was a moriaheldy gege and cindy that was highly publici publicized, 1,000 people showed up. i think a year orwoindy teifiethathe sll

liev cayeasive en aftethatseice. th ce halotsf twis a tus, se tha y jus won belie, a i think that's why it makes such an interesting story for many people. >> author of "presumed guilty," jose ba, suchpleare. anks smuchor sringart it. >> tnks r hingme ightow wlloo the present o jutart spking a srthilego i glen allen, virginia, that of course a big swing state. let's take a listen to the president. >> doesn't mean at some pnt u'reotoing t eeriee toh mes, b it dsean thathe tjectyfople lis inhis couny, ifou rk hd, y c me it and at's what mades special. that's what made us the greatest nationn earth. that's what mad usnconoc supeower now,hen r i 2008, a lot

of people - we came together not just democrats but repuican inpendts, causwe'rnotemocts o reblics fit, we' amican fit. ane ce togher becse we fe le tha ide hadeen slping ayor too long, for almost a decade people had been working harder but getting less. andhen torst fincial isisn o lifimeshi worseconicrisin our litime milons of pple st tirobs o hes o savings and that made the dream that much harder to rea for. buwhat've leaed ove tse st1/2ears is, enhoug the cris p uhrou som ry tgh times, the american people are tougher. f fos mahaveot knoedown

sp, buthey t ba up. e csisidn' cnge oe ar itid not change our fundamental character as a people. it hasn't changed our sense of purpose from 2008 r miion ght w,yes, is put peoeack wk and, ye totrenhen theousi mark. orut o purses ao to rebud ouecony so that it lasts. so thatork pay f,n onomin wch eryby, whher u ar staing sine or puning clk, u can have confidence that if you work hard you can get ahead. that's our goal that's ourentr rpos thathat thi mpai's out. that whai'veeen worngn for the las 32 ars. that why'm running for a second term as president of the united states of america.

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holding us back from meeting our challenges is not a lack of big ideas, it's not technical soluons. you name it, whatever it is, educion,usin the defit, avehe solions i fnt of u at's holngs bacse've goa stalemate in washington that has more to d witust tw cdidas for pside or o poticaparts,it's two fundentay dieren visns abt ho we movhisount rwar thislectn is abo bakin that stalemate. the outcome of this election will determine not justhat happens next year or the year afr th but wt hpens for th nt 2yes. see,y opnent and h aies coress the bieve in a top-down economics. they believe that if we spend trillions ofolla o t cut

most for the alth eve if weave ayor iy gting educionr gutng j traing pgram or gutng instmes in basic research or turning medicare into a voucher system orncreasing middle clastas, thafe dohat mehoall ofou areoingo nefi thattheiid. ey aoelie that if we roll back regulations on banks and insurance companies and credit cardompaes, regutionthatre meao otecpeop and oonom thatomeh evebodys gog toe mo cure at'sheirasicargunt. they'll spend a lot of time talking, but if you cut through all thstf,hathey' real sayg is, x cut f th alth rol bac relatis. thatssenally tirpl.

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woh trng. but dhis. anit didtwo. we c't aordoo baco top-down economics. we need somebody who believes in a middle-up economics, a bott-up ecomics sebod whwillightor y and workgeopl a acrs viiniandll acrs amica. at'shy iunnior a second term as president of the united states. yo kn,henhe amecan ao instryas aut to uer and oonen wasying let's let detroit go bankrupt, i made a bet on american workers, on american ingeity, a w go magemt an wkerso sit wn a wk tngsou d rit n gm i numr o ain. d th u.s. auto industry is

back on top. well, let me tell you something, what can happen inhe aut instrynroitthatan ppenn mafacting l acrohis cotry. rhmon and i ralgh a ittsrgh a in cleveland. which is why i've said, let's stop giving tax breaks to companies that are shipping jobs erse. let'giveax bakso mpans threnvesng ght re ithe itedtate of arica andnvesng i amican wkers soe cake american products stamped with those three proud words "made in america." that how w bldn enomy atastsnd that w i'm ruing for a sond ter as priden you ow, . romnas a ffert ia. yokn he invested in companies that have been called pioneers oouourcg. i d't wt a pneer i

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at home. let's put fol bacto wk rebudingur rdsnd our idgeand r raioadsnd ouchoo autti brdban lin i theural mmunies all across america. that's how we build an economy that lasts. at'sal, b the wayowe takeare ourtera. now ey'r cing ho,hey shoun't ve t fig f a job after they fought for us and they should get the benefits that they've earned. so we'll be fighting anyind tbac on vetans serves. we'vgot te ce o fks whtookare o us. i'm running to make sure our kids get the best education in e wod. u kn, ianto hel our hoolhirend rardhe bes teacrs, pecily mh a

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points in 2008. right now the latest quinn ip yak points hashe pside u sixointor. it'still veryery ose race i wt t tk qcklyith rmerenn nnoverrd rendl wi meormer a foerrnc chairman and msnbc analyst michael steele. i'm glad you're here with me. we'll talk further after a break, but e i wt tosk y abt th subance ofhat yore hringere. the esidt ssheay t gr tscono is bldinit t frohe mdl n frothe p do. dihe me th poi earl >> i think he did make it clearly. i think he has to campaiombine th me deiled suestis, instinin o frasuctu, instinin rearc and veloent. ose e ththin tt thk arica unrsta, rticarly frasuctu. ey c shose jo. the jobs are created relatively quickly. but, yes, i think he's made the point to people that ickldownconocs ner work. it hast woed ithe lt0

ars. won worhisme. i'mcuous,chaef you e thverynd ofhe pridens spch aeing a g atitt romney, when he said, look, i told you i would be the kind of man who would always tell you ere i ood. ishatn aackn mit romy fl-flo steotyp and peepti amo many >> we, it's nouc an atta, bu 's jt aubtl mind tha you know'm a straight shooter, you know where i stand, you know what i've said to you before and i'm telling you where we're going to go next, andth's n somhing th youe sn fr my pone whoan'tvenhows athe'sarnenis iome taxe you ow, yeah it's t sulety of what obama says at the end there that furthers the narrative that we've seen play out over the last ten days, which fortatel the romy caaignas bn traing bend a triesteay liany toet i front of but still has yet to do that. >> we'll have more of your

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>> we are back with strategy talk. ining me,orme penylvaa gornord reell,orme c chrmanmsnb anasticha stle. weome ck t botfyo vern, weeard frothe pridenpeakgn the campaign trail in virginia saying mitt romney only has a plan to get elected, not one to fix the onom do y thi theresintas effeivel elain his pla toix the econy? >>well i wld bxplaing it i lite mo deil. thi he d inheobs bl backn ocber,uton't think in the themes that he's been striking he's quite detailed enough. he shoul go back aalk to peop abo theobs bil becae the w goo stu i e js bill asicha kno,tuff tt repuicanhaveuppoedn thst aost unorml some support for every aspect of the jobs bill. and those things work. there's no question they work. and the president should spell them out a littl bit me

cleay. hislan to rucehe fici at e sa timwe'r raing renueut spenng, bu iest thehinghat will create jobs in the short run. >> speaking of jobs michael, in virginia the major swistat unploynt oy 5%wellelow th nion' erag how rrieisheromn's campgn aut tselately rongcono inhisnd other battleground states? >> i 30's a genuine concern there. as you reca,he camign enurag gerno mcdonll noto touthe scess of virgia too muc bause if give a chance for obama -- >> you have to feel sorry for him, though. he's the governor of virginia saying, wait a minute, i've done a good job. >> that's tey thg,ex. the rlitys lotf this is do at eandsf t verns of thestat nhe deraoverent. the govnor' policies are the

predon't nant ones. the work force in virginia is a lot fferent than aotf her ingtate wh mh mo r d, resrchnd delopmt, thnoly fis, and fens ntraors. thers a lthat pusng at enomyn aay thaakes the narrative much more favorable, which is why i think you see the numbers where they are right now inirginia for obama th foromfe. i thk romy h aigge gume thahe canake a theoverrlrea toued o this in tms othependg by this administratio administration, yes, the president likes to tout, we saved a trillion dollars but you spent 5 trlion. we' now tllio in the ho. the arnumbs y can tal abouin tms h thecono habeenhapeby ts adnisttionince 200and at rney wan to do going forward. >> listen, guiys, the live bit with the president has put thi sh fter tn ahrisas he i'veot tget gog.

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wad ltle t, picd u a bit, he said those hairdos are gone. obviously supporters of the president, glen allen, virginia th iric ntor learf hoe replica isis terrory,ust ouide of richnd. e pridencontue toamme ho hishemef thi is choi notreferendum, ahoice of economic policies you've heard the president give in his stump speech time and time again. his sondrip tirgia i asany days uerscing thi aeyartf theampans eltora stregy. taing out t gog bacto e picie of thest, top-down economics as he put it. casting it as a choice between two economic theories. the president also hitting mitt mneyn that sourng/osourng, is ntin ragbetwn th mpais wh chaes flyg ba andorth les lien ta ltle bit of wh the predentad tsay st mentsgo. >> but we did this. and it didn't work. we can'tfforgo bk to

p-do onoms. weeed somody welies in a ddleut enomi boom-up economics, somebody who will fight for you and working people all across virginia and allcros amica. at'shy i runng for conderm predentf the unit stas. >>eporr: a, asou can see,oampifpiri fro the predentr th crow that is his first stop in virginia today, all together there will be five. he heads to centerville, virginia, not f acrs t rivein nthervirgia. theresinturving t ra witabou900therho std wiem thk yoveryuch, mi. good to see you. joing me now for more frofrnlt page politics cha p let andavidnamura glad t heyo >>ood afrnoo >>davi t proapresent

ys ihe ws virginia you'll win four more years in the white house. he won that state in 2008. what is the sense fromhe wte hous abo theesidt' chces rgin? >>hink t present' caaign fls gd abo rgin. it not aoincencehatwo mont ago wnhe pside offially lncheis reecti camign pked virnl virg and ohio on the same day to sort of make his first speeches. he's back again the last t da. he'll spend a t ofim ther ihink y'll e t pol righnowhowim with a bitf a ad or mt romn. it a the mormpornt pausihinkneighring noh calinahe pside's ing hava lite tough er i'm. it will be nip and tuck and the numbers don't lookgood there. thinthat put memphas on virgia, the dograics viiniare gwing aitore falg t therez d y he opulormeoverr tim kain who wlengaged in a tight vote for the senate there. it will bring out the votes. that's an important battlround state that the pside wilo ck to.

>> h ccialsheinn virgia? >> thiirgia ismpornt fo t esidt. i dot thk it's tshe must-win category liking ohio or pennsylvania. but it's definitely important. i think there are 13 electoral votes there. the lestealolitsvera sh bark oba wit ree-int gever tt romn. itery coetite. romn has tak camign tri toirgia but not as froektly as barack obama. perhapsecause that's also because the white house is just a few short miles from virginia. but it hhligs wh a impoant ate i fhe priden >>et'switc ges, dad. i wt t tal aboittomne isightg bk abt hitime at bn catal. he's wt mitt romney told nbc's peter alexander. >> the president's campaign has been ihinkutraous mang t kinof crgeshey have i thk th kds of attks are neatthe gnitf t priden. i ink e predenteedso in iis cpaigand art lkinabouthe al iues pele ce about, which relate

to our economy. >> david, are you hearing any new reaction from the ite house based on what they heard in the five intview mt roey ge yeerda >> i don thihe whi hse llackownrom thi threas is i thi the thi ey'r getng tracon. pos swn switate mt roey i being hurt by some of these accusations whether they like it or not. just this morning the president released anoer tgh aer vertementhatoes fshong a banaccots i the ymanland and tha as ver damang, shs mt rney sinng meri the autil"uper imposed with clips from newspapers talking about these accounts that are hidden offshore i thin likyou id nmatt wh mitromn sayin tse tervws iwon' reay chan the oba cpaigs mi thiss an aaf wknes for ttmney >> a i mentioned these five back-to-back interviews. how unprecedented is something like this for mitt romney? doou tnk thissueill movendepdent votsome vemb? >> thi'serynusu for

tt rney d s man telesionnterews. theast he'sctuayaken lot cricior not bng as open with the press as some of his predecessors on the ticket. i think what mitt rox ne's campaignante t dwas to shuthe dr on a lf the accutionon in, get r the t iue b talng to althesnewsrganatio and leing allut i topen and m pttyure id t opposite. i think we still have questions. a lot of reporters still want to ask various things about this. anthe obama campgn,s dad poted out,s stl onhe tackboutit. i dot kn ihe cpaig was ve ccesul. i wt to a u, sha,he vern who was on defense about releasing more tax returns. here's what he said about that. >> i understand that the posion rearceopl a the amaampan wtore infoatiotheyan t andig thugh. u kn at? ve p outs mu ase're gointo putut, ce ie add th ar, and that's the information that gives people more information than is

required by law. >> he released, shira, a t of formionso thmcca campgn i 8 wh thewere vettg his a posbleeep caidat why t reasehe lt fo yes ofax retus? i mn, you kw what it leads people to believe? >> it leads people to believe the worst, al elf. it leads people to believe he is dingometng,heth or t hes. mitt romy i ght, the oma mpai wou lik himo rease s taretus becse it i me oositneseah foer fhemo dthugh. t when heited the requirement by law, the truth is the law doesn't require candidates to release that much about the psona fincial siatio. we aoll cl ghrou rson fincial dcloses r evyembeof cgresnd theyon'tell ttmuch in my ws he i actllot releing at much infmation by just releasing what is required by law. >> david, why not just release more of his tax returns and put this issue t rest? itotikeverydy doe't aladyee h as wethy,

ccesul binesanhich one uld pecto berefllgted t tex rerns. >> i mes pple wonder what the obama campaign is hitting him on, what els is in the. would it raise more questions if he relsed th? athe se ti, repters stilcontueoo tir vestatin we s sto aft stor "e boon gbe" d twthiseek talkg abt miromn's time baind sort o how secretive some of his dealings might have or have not been. the romney campaign no matter hohardhey y can putt torest >> wt abo ontime rk ntorppeang a a romy caaignente is tt a sn that senator santorum is fully behind mr. romney? >> i'moture aut tt. it beea swurtsp. uslly t nberworunn-up in rublinolits tes t gle mselndeexn line ntor dinity has that title. he was number two runner-up in the primary. it's a very unusual case because it's been this ostanng

nsiobetwn hiand . roey. i wodn'tall a fullhroted eorsent or anhingike th. 3thk ere'stilten beeen e tw >>o yo think it at least gets ntorum's supporters to throw their support behind mitt romney? >> ihink at's impoant, considatg t suprt ohe reblic sids wh mit romn hasone frlyll. uee tha wit camign nanc donionsndow gettg pele t theollss going to be an important part of it. any of this kind of consolidation and unity on the republican side is very heful. dav and shirhank s ch. than. >>righnowerry kendy i awting crt de f alledlyrivi wle impaired by drs. she connued ono t nex it,ulle ovehere s was portly fnd ptut bind e eel. r atrney telsheas

akenut n injud. kennedy spokesperson says there were no drugs in her system, but sources familiar with the case tell nbc ns tt bodnd ine tes we sen t a poli lab and iould tak daysor tesuloszom ck thow my typ o pro of drs iner stem w turig tee mey headlines, record profits despite one whale of a loss. could it be turning around? and 60-day test drive. thornd retlnaly is here wh th latt tail niceo seeyou. >> d t s ytoo. >> t's tal aut jpmoan's bott li, wchameut jus ne iheend. >> righ they reported record earnings for their second quarter despite the billions of dollars of trading losses, as you had mentned,he wle o aloss it w de by thirogue deritiveradeut of ndon own theondowhe. and dpite all o tho trading loss losses, the company was reporting better than expected earnings. they said despite they might have some blankg feeinerms

of ming mon, theanki es mausehemoss gng to t nex quarr,hathey ll auall-hey' ming moreoney witbankoansup 30% this quarter. >> but the word is this london whale, what a name, the word is they've cut him loose. wh doe knoabou hi >> wel hisame -- jus wanto ma sur iett rit -- bnoikse wradi upwards of $100 billion out of london. these arthe types of tras h s do sed tt an bause of t eggioulosst csed morg, the cut h loo as ll aa coue other executiv executives. >> let's get to home sales. there's positive signs for the first time in seven years. do you see theousiarke as finay beg set toounc backg? >>ight wellthe se-sllerinde thfirstimee're sing a potiveoveuprd. youad meione you know,

almost seven months now. and this is the first time we've seen any sort of pitive movent since tsousi bubb bur. no inay houng -urches of hes had ge u10%ersu st m soat's definitely a good indication. as well as housing ichblttories, that's really the ke youave toookt houng inntors. th areecomg ls on the maet. tre wbackheree art 02 levs? no housg anystsre looking to see us back at those levels. shoers can take new chevy models on a 60-day tes dre? >> tt's ght. m gngo be takg tt chy outo thempto. wan to e whahis ill abt. acallychy, durg th summer, a lot of other automobile manufacturers have these protions to get rid of thr inntors. chy, ts iimilohat

lud hyuni diduri theeceson whe th alled pple to ke o the cars jus tet oplen th doors. chevy is sing, come in, test-drive a chevy, see if you like it. we can almost guarantee you wi. ifou don, 60ays ter u caretu th. wh irtt no gng toive back- th wil giv bac t pricof the c and some ohe taxe buthey' not goio gi bac somof tees and refinancing fe fees and that sort of thing. >> understandable. very good to see you. thanks. nexis aeyssue in thbatt f t whi hou at cld grely iluen the ouome theresintia elecon a it' nothe onom or heah ca. stayith . u'reatching "weekends with alex swit t vivitt." over idiffet

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pf. a threjudgpaneis cidi texas vot i. w. tes haued the jtice depamentor bloingts new law that, like similar measures in indiana and georgia, would require government-issuedhoto i.d.s at the polls. opnentofhe l sayhey diropoionaly aect ack d hpani vots a vlate theandmk 15otingight act. omar van honey has been covering the voter i.d. laws, thanks for join being us. >> tnks f hing. >>ake lk aourates arcle,t loo at e impts ofheoter.d.awsn the pridenal elecon. how big of assues ts for esidt oba's campaign >> they're taking it very seriously. on the campaign already subtly and overtly they're going and telling pplenheseeall

in-bed gups at y taed out, ricaamerans, hispics t aloungoter dispportnate ated th, theed tn out, african-americans at even a better rate than they had in 2008, and ere'sonceshat ese vot i.dlawsn so swg stesould he a rl effe. >>e' tkingbout hany balegrndtate whe ts mighbe eecti? >> 's really a handful right now, but there's places like pennsylvania, for example, wch yo canvenuestn i 's a battgrou sta, mtolls sh iteani to obam ltle titer is tim arnd, b you lkt th nber in nnsyania therwas recent study that the pennsylvania government did and youave basally 180,0 ju inhilalphilone decrat stnghoajory ricaameran cy thon't ve t two mt cmon ste

i.d.s. >> wow. so if you talk about nationally, how many people do you think we're talking about here? and do you think'snougto swinthe ecti? doexpec the ectio to be thattigh well tlectn i goi toe ver tigo the is reon tbecoerne natiallyou'r talng abo 20 million people, according to a brennan center sty, of the number of people that don't have ate d.s. 20illi peop? aut % -- aordi tha thbrenn ceer, s. anat's natnwid lot thetate aotn play texas -- the case in texas i think is extraordinarily interesting. texas isn't going to be a play in election, but texas is a stateat's grong hispic. thopulion i boomg. th is steat's bee tritiolly publan, t in matt of les tn a y generation, democrats really think texas could be a state they could play in. >> aside from the justice depamentits, wt hathe

ama minirati, reecti campgn, at a the dngo coat tse laws are eyetti outherend gisting fol aetti l thleared up? >> absolutely. they've gone out and registered folks. th've been -the first lady even and from t fst rlyn s bn rindioth ricaameranvors,oung tersall vers rllyut partular wheshe' tking to tse grou,y, get your snuff order, because you've got to get it done now. this could be a problem if these ting laws end up bng - holdg up and bein pl comeovemr. soet idoneow. kesurewithoung vots at lleg, yo havour driv's license with the correct address. make sure everything is up to date. >> ocourse there areany tha arelamonghis ieing don inntiolly try away the te. youee evidce, douee ooff th? we,itintestin back i pennsylvania again, the house republican leader of the

state assembly ther younow, he sd wh he salki to reblic sta coittee was ongs frids b h mentned at, u kn, he tick off lis of rsonshy thstatshouo to romney. among the things he ticked off was the voter i.d. law there. >> okay, well thank you very much fm "a toy" aume thanyou. >> tnks r hang . >> sll ahea offeolits withelisarriperr oner cle e te partier andheritage. i'm not kidding. it'sery inrestg. wel ta abo iextn "weendsith ex wt." onee in tsouing job supports tax breaks overseas. tax ts f comnieshatbrinjobsome. tsouing rsusnsouing. itatte.

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banks have agreed to p tails abt $6illio ttle a lawst. as pt of thedealerchts are ing be allowed to charge customers a fee to use a credit card. we'll talk more about that. the effects of thursday's masse sar fre cld inteere thlectnics powe gdsre mt vulnable e sar srm ao m genete a dplay of northern lights this weekend. and in the year's final running of the bulls a bit earlier today, foureople were injured but no one was red. er t couef t eig ampes the in spai the bus go the bterf8 opleho ndedo g the hoitalwhicnclus fr opleho wered. dhose aou fast five headlines. new reaction today defending new york city police a its controversial stop and fsk pocy wch cld set ttage for eest otheuntr just yestday,ew york may miael oombg sa saito

rtaigrou of oplequot evything the police does is wrong. the mayor argues stop a frisk saves lives but nubz don't rely showhat. opnentsay i fair taets minoties joinge is ranlph mclaughlin. thank you for joining me, professor. as wealked about the mayor defending the stop and frisk program, as you said in the "ne yorkimesartiehisweek dgesead ewspars,hey t th detls o afhis kindf picy. so d y tnkhe cousre like to op i >> t cous ha so far stopped it on two occasions. two young african-americans were arrested, stopped, frisked. they actlly found guns on ese two indidua and the pelle crts tew o tir convtionand rerse. thers a fedal jge rht w in mhatt who has ceifie alass action lault essenti lawsuit saying it appears she's thinking the policy violates the cotituon.

>>the's bee plicoutc, opsitidiscsion posion rche do yhinkhat wlnfluce thayor a pd? i don tnk anye wl inflnce e mayor or or kelly except a federal court order that orders them to op ts bacall uncotituonal- it'startg to lk le a cist poli. >>asoingo a you abo that uncotituonalecau of th? artherraci ovtone here you can point to and really say that's what it is definitively? >> there have been 685,000 sto in one yr one, 2011 thisear ery mon 200. 87% t iividlstopp e aicanmerin an latinos. they've stopped more black men, young men, in new york city than ere are black young men in new yo ty. okay no tre a my peoe w y neyorkityesidts a e mar wlayhis ishat th're claringr, wchs toeephisity saft a

costs. >> here's what the facts really show us. of the 685,000 stops, 1%f ose ops rested i a g ing ken ohe stre. so y hav a gater likihoo of gting gunake fenff the reetyando stops not these kind of stops. here's what's going on. they are literally stopping and friskingeoplin the strts ofew yk athe rat of 200 aay. wesedo he picy cled mmuny lici. nowe'rolicg th commity. that whagog on >> how do you see this being different or similar than that which goes on at the airport. you look back at 9/11, aow licy cngednd at asto is pnt w havbeenept feecauf wteoplay arenvase picie t ma. >>ll, e airrtecuryr court security where you have to pass through a metal detector, that's a limited situation. what we're having in new york is, you esstial are iminizedy beg bcknd

walkg onhe seets o new yo. th're oppi y whoutny spicn yove cmitt a cre or are auto coit cre. act,n tir forms they check off, we stopped him because he's in a high crime neighborod. essentially if you live in what they consir a high cri ighbhoodyou' liky to t sppedndrisk in e stre. >>nd dyouindhat ofhose statticsou'r ptingut therthe majityfeopl gettg stoed arisk it es hpen in areas with a higher level of cre? >> it's happening in african-ameran communies -- ere y be highe lev of ime. wh'sritil y wangood pocingn themmunies. >> h doe tha ce out? we ed bterducaon f poli offers out at ty shld blookg fo he's wt you need. you need community policing. you need the police to engaged with the community, not as an occuing rce, arrestind frkingopleut you nee em tongagin t comnity becae thcommity ows o thrimilsar anthe whootio ofust raomly stopping people on mas

is not resulting in any better policing. >> how do you see this pying t? >> i tnk fedal coun new rk cy wiule tha is picy it taolic -- is uncotituonalnd ty will strike it down. >> do you think as some who look to new york will look to new york and how new york goes may e rest o theount go >> ihinkhe rt ofhe untris wtingnd sing see at auall hchesn th cou cas d i ink ce t fedal urt riket's dow whi i lievit ll, we' s the stop of stop and frisk as we know it. >> pace law school prossor thanyou muc >>the amampan ha leasd a new attk a taetinmitt re an outsrcerhile rsing estis t overseas accounts. ♪ purple mountains majesty above the fruited plains♪ ♪ ameca ameca g sd h

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litt bit glas -- i in e te ptynalifnia, ght? ally and y're auall aitti that >> and ian rembe whe -- when president obama gave as a candidate the race speech in 2008 in philadelphia and he talked about what happe when u'ren ratiohipsithf inticy wheopl who are ffert th yo you andmher,our bes iend ere --thers a t alits ofhe structures of race, but a lot of that falls away when it's like, you know, your uncle fred who sent you one ofouravore of gtshen you re 7 yrsldor yr bihday part hps to pandur ia o who is lik and w can w fdome poinof commonality with. >> it seems like your mother has influenced you in so many ways. >> my mother- my mndad re n tethen my chilood, altughhey we ve muc par of raing me. myom w bical sgle rentho, youow,orke i nonpfit orgazatis, w was

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bein anouourc. here is e pridentoda i viinia les lien. mr.omnehas diffent ea. nvesd in comnies that have been called pioneers of tsouing. on'tant pionr i outsrcin i wa somsourng. wantoring cpani ba. >> so, keith, let's say in november the economy is still flat. is this going to reayecom an iue? ou tnk the oba cp is tryi to eateome sor of diractn fr t onom it dinity workg, pecily i you lk athe swgtate wheroey's peeption is starting to wken because of these ads. you know, you have today president obama out there in virginia campaigng in the rain whe mittomne is ais 11cre tatenew hpshi relang. uknow the cpaigfor e ama amhey areot letng up. ey p o new a justoda

which was relentless, using mitt romney's own word singing "america the beautiful" against him? i don't thinkhis is a ssagtheyl ge un causi thk th're seeg thameran pple eeactg tohis d th wl coinue to ph o. >>o yo thi,na, the indenden versill i sona with the ceovemr if the economy doesn't tick up substantially by then? >> this is potentially dangerous to mitt romney because this is th sil seanetwe the primies d thonveions whenhing reayet gngn rnes is i tort of te wn sothin lik ts iftbts eme kind of comes up. i think this is what's happening, that the obama side is trying toswifoatomne th bn an oth this. thecony wirobay b all-cisi innomber b ama unexcted gning thedvange at this early stage. so i do think that this is toing to be something that's enduring that we are gng to see rig thugh vemb. >>xcep da,ouldt cal

it swtboang. woul s it'sissbting becae thswis bkccous are vingn pact >> rlly good, keith. can i ask you quickly, susan, before we move on, with regard to what keith brought up, the ct youaveresint oma woing rd, he'sut tre i thrainndere' thi cturof mt rneyangi t in aelately prilege enronmt the. y tnk tt mitomne ght w is hunkering down and trying to figure out his next move? doou think it's just he's frying to figure out how to g ouof th? >> i thi wha y menoned eaier,hey d a sies of ve tevisnnterews stery tout i out the. th'reoing to l i sele. itakesenseor tay toe y o. t a t news settle, let anyone ask any more questions they'll possibly ask. there's no doubt mitt romneyas haa ve aggssive cpaig scduleoingack t primies. onehink hs jt layg ck a ting ey at al so i tnk the'sothirong th h tak bei aay, tting the news settle.

>> dana, our next topic we'll go to now, whose taxes wilgo , whh pend here morf the predentn virgia toda wha ieaidoongrs , les meurehat eryby whsakin $250,000 a year or less, that your taxes don't erybo o isakin $25000 o lesa year you taxon't gup. bu letsk fol lee w caaffo itt the t 2% to do a little bit more. >> so dana, if congress doe't act, the tesil eire f eryo onanua 1st do y seeuch om f coromi on is iss? >> ion'tee cgres actg this or any other issue. i don't know anybody on capitol hill who thinks anything will t onhe tax issu thinthiss a abo polics athe mentnd w has e adntag aft t

ecti ihat lam duc ssiowher thell havto haer osothin i ink e sma mon says everybody is briefly going to get their current tax rates extended. >> keith, everyone ss t t cutsill rt t tecomy, sohy neephe tax cs for eryo? >>e tnedthe oer way i th cntondmintratn wh thhigh tax re and we created 23 million jobs. the reality is everybody's taxes are going to go down under present oba's pposa i dot thk he expined thisery ll. evenilliaireand llioireset a taxutn the 50,0 ofheir inco. 's the income above $250,000 that don't get the tax cut, so he needs to make that more clear. so if you me 50,0, u'renly ttinaaxn 250,0. susa whawereousang? iteems theonsient oblewithhis admistrion the comnicaon issues. they couldn't explain health care, they can't explain what they're proposing here, which

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