t wn't rponsle f nagent a th's, youow, boom le. joinge now for mor fro ge liti, eleanor clift. and david weigel. thanks for being re. tha you >> elnor, wil beg wh u. thobam cp n bacng a alln t bntack dety cpaigmanar asng re qstio abo it day. at dyou ke ohowhe romney camp had an dld this so far? >> well, i thai that they are trying to dame predent obams brd sing tthis ki ofttack aerting is beats hi theyreot reay rpondg the chaes and their argument is there is a good bain and bad bain. mitt romney was there when it 'twas good bain. w jus tecicaly hi signure onhese dumen afrwar. i ink thawhats gog on heres a raco deneitt romn and tnk t oba mpai israwing some blood

and really seeing mitt romney for the first time make the rounds of repters lteek vingverydyive muteso sweromef thqution ihink tt ere' bodn thater and it hd for me see how theomne camign can resist the calls for him to reveal more of his tax opon. >> there a difference between mr. romneayin tt h noingo d with bai aer leing go wor forhe -- he up thealt lak winr ga andd gilspie sing ere a lvef absence? i mean, i'm curious? can either of you know the answer? does a ceo with a leave of abnce thinto dwitht? or as bei alled bthe ama caaign, tha en tugh yojust- takyleaf o.nce t yoaretillhe doitheof y he answe that? >> it is really -- it is a situatio on that spin -- has been the prlem. uld ve psibl expined at hapnet ba.

agai e gilspies exessi whatapped aain becae miomne need to reue the salt lake city olympics. they could have explained this and said it is a complicated rporate process. sheer how it worked and here are how the disio werma. eyecid not d tt. thprobm ty catedasy reondi tovery oba attk out insayin it tolly untr,e had nhing to do with the company whatsoever. there might not a lot of wiggle room. the -- i think you see tod -- the last few days peoehat woed abain sayge wan theorms b -- mehane thght,e codn'tartipate inday--day opatio. bu pticited ltle bit. itasn osiation. it is very rare somebody leaves a company to take over the job of olympics but never explained how it worked. they havbeenodaman eir denls the oped emsees tthes attas. o yowanto adanytng at? wels. thin tacthat mt romn connuedo reive $100,000 a year i you this that

from bain during this period, to most people, that's a fair amount of mone whatindf capalis is thi youave notng to wit butou a sti getng thishunkf chge? thenalo ty arking, i is leteve jokebs. he was not making day-to-day decisions at apple. apple didn't veer off in any different direction when ste bs wck. i tnk tt t dtincon theyre ting makis ts howhatainiduring ts riodf queson, offsring somhing tt th areot oud . anit ds rae th larger question of what kind of capitalismid romney profit from and what kind of capitalism uld ergizheount wi? heeedso expin wt his planare, ihinkfehoul win e esidcy. wou all leo kn. >>hat'intestinavid you d i re talng lteek by b t latest job numbers which were not all that great. this week it is about bain. do you see thiss as a sn th thebama cps havg grterucce in ctrolng e meage? hey are.

a cssicarl ve ctic is assi stregy turning the strength or biographical strength into a weakness. this is what was done to john kerry and done in some caseso go. th --eforoter kw mt mneyery we,hey re yingo me it possle f hito expin tha the we de meyn bines was admirable, ethical. they get to the off-shoring on conversation on policy terms, not that mh o a dferee fr wha bark oba dido present,ven en demrats werenongrs anomne wod do dierens inaxlici. its noaolicissu just- insad of letting mitt romney be a businessma who had to -- made money the way all amerans n ma moy, ty artryi t mak hook ke -orro pasef rk rry,ultu pitast. he trygo thaefor opleave at ia o his money. two weeks before the romney's horse is in the limb have fun with that.

trying to toxify theaye g ri. >>witcng grs n hend i ll binith you, davi th rard to e nepollut in tamtrounstatof orid masodixom. he's leang mr. rom one point. with a thip hypoetic matup o mitt rney aarco bio, at'shen the rublin tick fli andeads by one int. t thver t predent a vi predent whato yomakef sator rubio not givepling romney that much of a bump? at least in this poll in his own state. what are themplitionof at? i'mot rlly su. polik tha i --n jul bere t peoe- on t coenti, gogo be iam th past. i don't know how locked in those voters are. florida has been this tight for three yes. flida impved ltle bit more ecomicay onust justnunemoymeumbe thanhe rt othe couny. anther haseen proem

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urchpokean issd atemt ithe dertews ying slyheover is reection of the bias and speculative nature of the article itself. narrow and incomplete meaning a od deal of infoatiogive onowhurc reurceare ed. at ihe stoehin the vandecreveholdgs? sh gen ihe senr poticadito for bloberg business week. josh, good day. glad to have you here. >> good to with you. >> cover art controversy aside, article points out some of the urch key bines intests in hding o afoprof vel. ey o evethin fro the wspar weustqued, dest ws tre i stake cyo av staonhat got a spitity business and life insurance company that's very profitable. what does that chunk there tell us about the church's investment chces d how thearnney, ifythi? >> we,his is reay a scining ory. andhe morn chuh i -n adtiono beg a chch, i iseally a business empire. despite the unhappy statement

you read from the church earlier, they actually cooperated with oeporr on thisiece brout heinnd outo sa ke ty. e waallod tof hepeak to t ceo othe chur's ldincompy anis a fascate oring xwrip the church is a $40 billion enterprise that owns everything from shoppingallso ctle ncheandhemeark in haii. weavehosetatsnd o dictoran towhem u f anyo thawantto ok. itks aut tillis o money that it takes in, $8 billion intying. th chuh dates lshan1% to chary. th hav all ts moy. yet,s y ow, nobynows where financial investments lie in detail. why is it theare so secretive? do you think it may be a reflectionf thormo eolo/the theogy?

>> crch hasee secrive. longnd percuted history in the united states, as we know. i think that its cooperation with our reporter was an efft to, you ow, do aittlbit thaster ope up d sh why busesse ismpornt to thechch. reas forhatsosepsmh, wh foued moonis bieve tht was more difficult to be spiritually fulfilled if you were materially deprived. anso t idea o iustrand hundust,t iseall at the art of e relion d at'shy tseavehese brd ldin. ke a l ofbuness, ty arnot aubli company and therefore they are not on obligated to disclose any of this. >> i want to bring up something written in "thwashgtonost" ticltalkg aut how the ren'leas withe blmberartie. and eyay tha the d run emoymeserves,hrif stes, od pantes, oer lfarprogms. that's their contribution to charity, as they say. your article also says that

unlike jaismnd cistiity the morn chuh bievebein insted in lalusinses i allart of d's rk. goousins isasicly d's sine. arthey mging bines wit religion in that regard? >> yeah. i think they are. i mean, part of it -- what you get in the article par of what they are afters tompro lol bu commitie th ia o bng tt tt c proveverne'sot i li, perhs brg tm int the chur, an tha busess c reale mor tha st of raw capitalism but something that can uplift people not just materially but spiritually also. >> okay. i soalkbouthepecics mit rneynd othst ba capil. yo say geo th mmonf urch bilons dlars o chur in ock ldin. thatould include $2 million in burger king, $1 million in domino's pizza. why was thatdone? because isha- is tha caus othehurc thin requemen i mti eed rlie ist goo busiss?

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eric pele. as e gornor o ssacsett use taxyer llartooutsrceobs to dia. d no y know, his tax policies now encourage the same type of outsourcing. this is a legitimate discsion about rney'reco in e pa. al wha hantso do nowor this untr >>ime r stregy ta. joing is tonfro, fme ite use duty white house press secretarity and margie amiro. good to see you both. tony,oueard fro rah anue doese nohaveint? wioterbuy t lve o absee excu? >> ion'thinkoterwill voten tt iss thall -- toe host wh you. i think -- what we have seen as a pattern is, you know, every time you get a bad jobs report have you -- obama campaign talking abt sothinthat ppen that - se- y kn, boon csultg fi 20 ars o or 1 yeao, th's n the wayhey e vong. thecono i heang i the ong rectn,eadi int the fall obama campaign has much bigger problems explaining

what's happening today and wha mitt romney will have explaining what hpene 12 1ears ago. >>hatay wel be, to. an peoe ma nototenhi on ise. buthe submina eroon o peop'srustnd wanng t votedo y worbout that? >> not really. look, you know, again, people vote based on their -- based on their own cditisnd wt ey s a i terf th fure. w th exptheuturo lo andhey dhat bas on, you nknowhat ey s in e ecomy d wi job creation and economic data and what's happening for their own lives. it is not these kind of issues. >> a leer. and uook aitomne and --e can be- be strght th t amecan ople can'be saigh abo the tax rerns dan't b strght out sole a a company where he was the soul owner, soul ceo and president and he has adviser saying he retid reoactely. at'shat hea ts morng. it doe't me see t vots. st a aensehe's hing

sothin >>hat out is, rgie kevi madnnjoyg a wea ecomic- drawing a weak economic picture. ishe president using bain to take focus off the economy? do you think that wl be fecte bad onhe w ton analed h peoe wl fl whenhey go int tolli bohs? ihink iismpornt - fit of all,itt rney bngs upisenur at bai mehan tenure as governor of massachusetts because he was 47th in the country in job sea nation massachusetts. he brings up bain. is i n somhinghat' d up tt none er hed fore thiss mi romn's mai credtiale cis a- whye shou be esidt. th he owsowo cree jo becae heid it at bain. let's talk about it. this isn't a distraction, this n't an obscure issue. this is what mitt romney wan toalk abou heoesn wan to tal aut toght way tt's- ful discsed d trspart. he wts t talbouttn his own h own way abo a kindf cricis crique or discussion. >> tony, wisconsin governor walker told romney to get off

his heels. does t predentave himp agnst e rosithheain attas? >>ook,he -you ow, if u bac to -ot o presenti camignsyou e lo opics dcuss inhe sum their have absolutely no aring on the campaign in the fall when voters make decisions. the other thi you always he, al, iet to one of tm thisar. one the gsrom the delis, y kn, sidine quterbks w geto cl playfrom theide,verye haideaon how predentl caaignhoulbe run. the people in the romney campaign excellent peop. edillespie and others. they have an idea what theare doinand knohat e sttegy . les lethemxecu . repuicanwill- ainds of easor h tyhoulru ta autit,ive suggtion thend othe y, it is the romney campaign that will make decisions on what's best for them strategically and tactic. >> i what about ts with the obamcampaign hingreleed o an-romy adyeerda th o thaoes aerainnd e otr shs mi roey's commts authe present. fro hen t, it goi

toe al aacksall way to move? >> i think it is important to have a discussion. mitt romney wants to be president and support -- important to have a disssio abt hiecor and his charter d he wou ld and ghtow h i sayg he uld ad b keengt wiholdrosetinghe eric peoe have sepate s of les for the ry wealthy, tax havensnd -- swiss bank accounts and rather than fighting to close the loholeand inve theoney ameca. l the thgs a imptant when foc gros -- ty wt to heaorebout roey. thon't kwnoug aut him. is portt toave is scuson. don'conser tm attacks. >> here is another question about the timing here. is the president usingouse best ammunition too ely in the campgn? allememr foears ago we hohn cain gng aft the esidt and a tt tim an labing m a a celeity. at didt work >>yeah. i wouldn't say that this is -- the wrong tomb to use it. this is part of the discussion. and swingoter mak u the

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you kn, we- scott walker, governor of wisconsin, quoted in the column this morng saying is time for mitt romneyo go tffenve and to sta artilati betr anore clrly s ow mesge aut e ecomy d authe way in wche belves esidt obamfail t natnhese past fouyears. he hasn't been doing that as david said. he has been on the defensive not only on the bain b why hes t reasinhis x rerns. ing ck fther so iall ntrites the peepti 'sot aweri qutionand t bng fohcomg abtome of e sueshat the oth se is asking him to talk about. >> david, you know, republicans are blasting mr. romney for not releasing more of hax retus. threpuicanoverr to alama, stinghe rord raig folwinghe rort the on comnts tt h me abt t issu of gd beney ss i bieve thransrenc and i personally choose to release my own returns each year. there was no effort to imply mr. romney hasnythgo hi.

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table or it feeds into the impression there's just something foreign about mitt roey, c't qui g inde wt h mivesare. >> y, if y areooki at -- yoow, cing fm a ses agnst e biestide of ncerwoulbe tt o inpendts. youet aensef h thi issue is ristering with them? >> well, mean, i'm not sure that the american public is clamoring to see mitt romney's tax turns but i tnkha vid ys i ght. is i spl tt'soingo ntin toauntimecau thothesides goi to hau m wi. if h doe't dl wh it. it sms te the wl be poteially short-term pain in the release of the returns. but -- theonger he goes without leasingem, t me thbamaampan can connue sugst tt'sidin methg. anthatits to a larr rrate abt mt romy tn 's n aweri som of e estis in aore forthcoming way. that can be damage. >> i want to talk about swing states wit both of you. amy, your latest article, you write about the fight ahea and n thewing staf rgin.

we h theivefeed po guyot skeds did mt ofverydy d ere. wassoaked. how about the battle there? how is that shaping up? >> well, you know, virginia had been a republican solidly red stat iresintiaaucu ing ck unt 1964 lt te a demrat w thestat thathang in 08 ocour en pside oba won it i not blustatnow. it is very much a purple state. it is in play. both sides have the opportunity in virginia. youow,bamaasdvange wihe larndrowi minoty pulatn i t stercitindvirgia, chmo, ti war. mneyas aanta wh th stil lgely vy conservative republican rural south and west in the state. s what in play a t depeent versf th omin surbsand, y ow, lita famies tid wate theyre gngo bot ses ght ry har forhose votes. >> okay. want to get to the state of ohio with you, david. the president is campaigning in

cincinnati tomorrow. but overall, theates qunipi pol tho t present leang bine pois or so, oth pol sho tace a b oser wh do uxpeche pside say in cinnnat torrow >> i tnk y will see a lot more of the outsourcing argument thate carried into virginia the last two days. the presidtoesn rlly meion in scifillyn t campgn trl. bu heoesalk authatitt mneynvesdn bines wh ouourcjo. that will be an argument you hear repeatedly. partularly resonant in ohio which oious haseenard hitith manactungloss. is i anoerssue tha mitt romn -- ahough h did fiv inrvie witthe netrks idayhink tha he wil ve to explain mor about what his role at bain was because if you don't know what bain is now, if you are justunin in vors a goi to ow or e ne coue omohs, ink. >> iustant tate ather qutiono yoabou oo becae w heenat r

portn camigni hisome ste the th weend. he ishae saiesteay in cincinnati. >> i am going to tell what you i think. i think he isunni a camign th - sti wit me her -no frh ids. wh youave campgn wit no fresidea youse sta taics sca vors. y hav no recd t run , you paint your opponent as someone to be run from. guess who iust quot? >> barack obama. >>arack obam ur yrs ag >>ith theenat bei ohe shorlistf vpicks tentlly,ha kd ofmpac youhink h wld hen threpuican tket? i d't tnk tre ia lo ofvidence the vice presidential pick sways voters 'opinions on who on vote for. they vote for the top of the ticket. of course, senator portman is a bi ass i ohio crital, cticawing ste. repuicandon'un a whi hoe wiout nninoh. i ao tnk satorrtma h pontial to put romney at ease. they are like-minded, serious policy folks.

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issue in november. and joining me is the author o thatartie. weome. at hhaso d toinat. miael, thas f bnghe. u wre abo the taxeali th no onealksabout. under president obama's proposal people would only pay a higher tax rate on the income amount above $2,000 not e tota soor auickxamp if soone mes $0,00 youre lyayinn $5000. y ar peoeo consedy is? we,t stas because presidt obama doesn't quite phrase it the right way. and -- it would help if he would. the media wasn'talking about itheight way eith. e pceesed crea is t on peop, dlars eard ave a rtaiount yosaidt exaly rit. onlyheolla earned above $250,000 would be subject to this additional tax. and then, again, there i another point,t is oy taxaeinme. at is,ncomfter dedtion eken,omeoersh

deduionsndthereducons e taken. if a couple makes $300,000 and they take $30,00 worth of dections, theiraxabncom $270 a the wou be ping hier re onl on 0,00 the dlarsbove $10,00 i'm hap t hav t portity comon national tv and say this. >> no. i'm glad you did. you absolutely say it even better than i did. is portt pele u tha arte ofilli threold, udded u canake you deduionsdeeg dthemnd wh's remningf at, it even sllermoun pple willave the -- this new tax would go into or the -- lack of extension of bush tax cuts would affect that amount of mone e numbe o extdinghe t cu overl 5ss2% ofoter sa the wanll othe t cutsexteed, 43% wan tm exndedor tncom uer $250,000. what's your take on that? do they not understand? are people saying between can't put any more ofur cash int

th genal potther ah. i n't know thatumbeurpring me. itoesn jivithost oth lls i he se. st pollou s-eopl in the 65% range say that we agree with raising taxes on the dollars above $25000. gues i-wa to knomore abouexacy hohauestn waaske becse i see le anutli tik an outlier to me. but, you know, i guess it just proofs that -- if that's -- at all sentiment out there, it proves that obama has to go make this case more forcefully and -- more smartly than he has. >> okay. can i ask you about the other article you wrote this week about romney's tax returns. do you think he will be forced to release more tax returns? >> i think eventually he's going to have to do something because every candidate does. every candidate has. going back to house father as many people have observed. but ever since then, candidates released tax returns. barack obama released seven

years of tax returns in 2000. george w. bush released many years of his tax returns. john kerry also released many, many years. same with john mccain. you just don't run for president and get away with not releasing your returns. now, what i suspect, alex, he might do is he might pull something i have seen in my years as a journalist. other really rich candidates do. they don't pass out copies but they -- invite reporters to come sit in a room and look at it for three hours and can't make copies. you can't make heads or tails of anything. he might try to pull something like that. >> what's inning to me, this is a very intelligent man. released all his tax returns while being vetted by potential vp pick by john mccain many years prior. then have you these four years where he's clearly on the public stage. you would think -- even though people are suggesti ining he ha something to hide, you think he knows better. i keep going back to why aren't you just doing it? i mean, he has been on the

public stage and probably had aspirations to run for the presidency four years ago. you know, i mean, he knows what he is doing. >> he does know what he is doing. and it is true. you make a very inning point that the people who run mccain 2008 campaign are sitting there 20 years worth of returns. steve smith and others on that campaign, they know what's in them. it will be interesting to see if they have anything to say about this. at any rate, you are right. he does know how the game is played. and -- it just suggests the obvious thing. there's something in there that's -- unflattering he doesn't want the rest of us to see. >> okay. always good to talk to you. thanks so much. >> my pleasure. up next, dramatic rebound in the housing market. are we really home free of the housing mess? here is hoping. this is new york state. we built the first railway,

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new report suggests one of the biggest causes of the economic weakness has rebounded. "the wall street journal" declared the housing bust is over. nearly seven years after the bubble burst. they sought convincing new evidence including increase in home sales and 10% more homes were sold in may than last year. "money" magazine reporter amanda is joining us to break this down. welcomed news for if it is true. do you agree? >> many economists are indeed saying that the moment has finally come. that -- we are in the early stages of a recovery. we have turned the corner and the housing market is on the mend. but on the other hand, have you to be careful. you don't want to overstate the strength of the recovery. because, in fact the market is still very weak. even if we are in the early stages of a recovery, we are still a long ways away from having any type of normal market. we are probably not going to get

there for three, four years. good news so many economists are saying, hey, we finally are on the mend but we just want to be careful not to overstate it. >> sit safe to say we hit rock bottom? do you think we can ensure that? >> one of the nation's largest homebuilders. ceo's in the earnings release said in june before the market hit bottom. that's base you cannily what the economists are saying. and i think what's interesting this time around is -- lot of people have been saying that over the past couple of years. i think it has been more anecdotal and -- it may have been happening in one market of the country but not another. but what's happening now is -- many economists are looking at the country as a whole. and saying -- okay, there's mounting evidence that we finally have the numbers telling the stories. if you look at home sales, housing permits, start, median home price are indicating that the recovery is here. >> if the epicenter of our downward trend economy has do with the housing bubble which

burst is it safe to say that with this, you know, at least bottoming out, slowly heading uphill, there is expected room for improvement in the economy overall? >> i think it is definitely good news for the economy because there is not a lot of positive news coming out of the economy right now. housing is, in fact, one of the areas, one of the few areas that is gaining strength. definitely. if the housing market continues to chug along, the slow and steady climb, that's good news. >> what can you see as something that would be uh-oh, send it off again? >> if we went into some type of recession, that could. but i think -- biggest obstacle facing the market right now is tight credit. we hear these record low mortgage rates, 30 years at 3.6% -- >> if you can get them. >> that's the problem. banks have very strict standards. there are a lot of people had a with like to buy and are not qualifying for the really low rates. that's one of the biggest head

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and two pills for a day free of pain. ♪ [ female announcer ] and try aleve for relief from tough headaches. welcome back to with the kwkds with alex witt." well, the feds are giving the green light on a right to vote challenge in florida which means that the state can now use a homeland security database to check on whether its residents and non-residents have the right to vote based on citizenship status. all this is playing out in the midst of a close presidential relationship in the battleground state. steve is joining me now. good day to you and thanks for joining me. >> thanks. >> tell us what's happened to allow florida to move ahead with the voter purge. >> for most of the past year the governor here, rick scott,

republican, has been ardent in miss belief the states should do everything kit to prevent noncitizens from voting. there's very little evidence of that to ever occur. they are having a handful of cases we found. but the state was using outmoded and bad data to try to catch noncitizens on the voter registration roles. with this latest development, by the department of homeland security, the state now claims it has much better, much more current, comprehensive data on non-citizens in florida that get benefits like food stamps. then they are going to run that list against the voter lists and check for more non-citizens that may have voter cards. >> okay. so -- we are talking how many people affected by this decision, steve? >> yeah. they have gone -- there are about 11.2 million registered voters in florida. >> wow. >> and, of course, we are headed for a high turnout presidential election. and the number of people who might be on the homeland security list who are non-citizens is yet to be

determined. the first list if state created, again, based on bad data from the department of highway safety, was about 2700 people. so small number, but rick scott is determined to see to it that no non-citizens get to cast ballots. >> 11.2 million. i thought that you were going pull me up with that number as being those that may be affected by this because apparently across the country, there are huge numbers that may be affected by this. i mean, it is not just florida state that we are talking about here. how unprecedented is this? >> well, i'm not sure what the states are doing. but the florida -- florida is hoping to set an example for other states to do this. but there is the high likelihood of a lawsuit here. because democrats and voter advocacy groups have insisted all along this is a vetter suppression tactic by rick scott and republicans to try to tamp down the turnout in florida. the people who have been -- who

surfaced on the first list, the state created, were are overwhelmingly hispanic. and so we are going to -- have litigation with us of a federal law that says you can't systematically review voters from the voter roles less than 90 days before an election. so this situation, episode is far from over in my judgment. >> i agree with you but what was it that made the department of homeland security change its mind? it has been appealed to prior to release these roles that they have. they said no. what changed? >> right. the -- department of homeland security has not answered that question. however, obvious fab tore was the fact two weeks ago, the department of justice and other federal agency, lost in federal court, in tallahassee, the department of justice trying to get an injunction to stop these purging efforts and the judge -- judge, by the way, parenthetically, bill clinton appoint he said no, no. the state didn't continue to look for non-citizen voters.

i think when the federal government lost that important round in court, they decided to throw in the owl and let the state have that. >> what if they find there are thousands of non-citizens on the vo voter polls? what does that do in terms of going to law enforcement matter in immigration? >> absolutely. i don't know if that will happen. they find -- i think that -- you can expect the governor here and the republican leadership to say even if they find one noncitizen on this role they made hair point. if you find a lot of them, it is up to a local prosecutor to charge someone with a third degree felony. it is a crime to state on a voter registration application that you are a u.s. citizen when you are not a u.s. citizen. that's a serious crime. >> it is an interest conversation from the tampa bay times herald. thank you, steve. i appreciate. >> it okay, thanks. in today's office politics, i talked with melissa

harris-perry about her vision of bringing her classroom in front of the cameras. the hidden view of humanity in her favorite guilty pleasure tv shows. but first, i asked melissa for her reaction to mitt romney's speech to the naacp and her early prediction for the election. >> i actually initially thought it was a great speech, that then went bad at the end. weird, sort of racial, cultural way. he also didn't flip-flop which is re -- has been the thing he has been criticized for. he came and said exactly the same things and says to every audience. i am here to cut taxes. i am here to stimulate the economy. and i am here to repeal obamacare. and use the language of obamacare. right? for from my perspective -- >> the boos. >> here comes the boos. mitt romney's biggest challenge is he has been called a flip-flopper. had he gone to the naacp and said well, you know, i'm considering the parts of -- affordable care act i like,

everyone -- including naacp wouldn't have called foul because it would not be consistent with his message. i thought he was fine there. then he made the little comment in the press pool afterward. he said the thing about if you want free stuff go vote for the other guy. and that, i think, was where he went wrong. he really threaded the needle even with the boos. i think had you to respect where he stood. and then that last little dig felt like -- well, now you don't get it. mitt romney is a very disciplined guy. he is not natural. he's not sort of -- easily affable. but he -- he is disciplined. and competent. i suspect the real question of what happens in the debate from the fall, disciplined at that time. i cannot call this election. i have to say it feels like an absolute tossup to me. >> still? >> yeah. maybe it is because it is still july. >> yeah. >> i got to watch how they

perform in their respective conventions. gop convention can be much more excite thing year than the democratic convention. democratic convention is like fireworks and light and happiness. then the republican convention with sarah palin which was fascinating dash hard for me to imagine either can be as interest thing year as they were four years ago. but it will be meaningful because these candidates will have to come out of that. here's something you are really good at on your show. that's speaking your mind. even if it stirs up controversy. why do you do that? what propels you to do that? >> you -- i felt like it was a good mission statement as given when i came to the show. my conversations with phil griffin was that part of what they were looking to do was to provide an opportunity for opinion and analysis, voices. so we have some great news reporting that happens on the show. on this network. we also have some really smart

an -- analytical opinions on this show. this is sort of the -- whole thing we are going for. it is -- you know, all of those years spent in the library, all those years of, you know, serving the tenure committee is so you can eventually just really say whatever you want to say. within the bounds of -- reason. what's it about this show i love? what sit that makes me feel at the end of it that was a good way to spend my 30 minutes of my life or something? and with those kind of shows, it is always my sense that i have somehow felt a sense of humanity from the people i'm watching. where i really -- it is mr. granite counter tvs but also about people and the way we live and what we think of beautiful and what counts as space. >> do you consider yourself more of a green thumb or decorator? if you are into hgtv.

>> it is -- decorating part. yeah. i love it. >> what do you want to do this w this office? you know. >> i gave up -- this is really -- this was a management choice. the staff is very lean and mean. i could have an office but no collective space. i'm only here friday, saturday, sunday. my staff is here wednesday, thursday, friday, saturday, sunday. i gave up having an office so that we collectively can have -- >> you have the shoe. >> yeah. >> i like those. >> they are my shoes. i forgot to ask her what size they are and whether i can borrow them. anyway, for more of melissa harris-perry be sure to tune in to her show every saturday and sunday at 10:00 a.m. right here on msnbc. in next week's office politics, i'm going to be talking with that guy, andy cohen. "watch what happens live."

it is all about bain in the battle important the white house. right now and heating up more. big three is next.

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and the gulf is open for business - the beaches are beautiful, the seafood is delicious. last year, many areas even reported record tourism seasons. the progress continues... but that doesn't mean our job is done. we're still committed to seeing this through. it is time important the big three. today's topics are the blowup over bain. swing state smackdown. this weekend's must reads. let's bring in my panel, reporter from real clear politics, erin mcpike. robert trainum and columnist for the hill, karen finney. good to see all three of you. it is awesome to have you. >> hello. >> i will begin with you, erin. first to the blowup over bain here. a former partner of bain appeared on "up with chris hayes." he asked him after 9:00 when mr.

romney left to run texas salt lake city olympics. >> he is the chief executive officer during this time. >> legally on documents i suppose, yes. he's not attending any meet. >> no meetings at all. he never showed up at any meetings. >> i will tell you this, it was ten years. can i remember every single meeting? no. but i remember mitt was gone. we had a management teamworking hard to manage the company. we had to negotiate for terms of mitt's departure and everybody's departure at that time and it was difficult to get any time from mitt to get him at -- his attorneys said so do that because he is so busy working on the olympics. >> okay. when you hear all of that, does that clear anything up? or does it open the door for more questions? >> well, with gray area like that, of course there are always more questions. so perhaps he was on a conference call at some point. if he was on a conference call, did he provide some sort of advice that led to another transaction? we don't know. maybe he did go to a meeting. that man doesn't remember all of

them. basically, alex, the romney campaign and bain capital have been kind of messy in their responses and it was originally billed as he was not part of bain and -- after 1999, but now he was -- still legally head of bain until 2001. it has been messy. >> yeah. robert, senior adviser at gillespie, describing it as a leave of absence even though mr. romney's name appears on the sec filings after 9:00. what is it? did mitt romney misrepresent his role on those sec filings? >> i don't think we know. i think that's the murkiness 37 going back to erin's point we just simply don't know. i agree that the romney campaign has been a little sloppy in handling this. and look, my advice to them is just to tell the truth. because dash obviously the coverup, as you know, as we always know, is always worse than the actual crime. i'm not suggesting that governor rom new broke the law or anything like that. just completely tell the truth and if, in fact, it was an error

say that. i think that's the main reason why, alex, why we don't see governor romney's past tax returns as -- that could conflict with the sec filings or complement them. there's a lot of murkiness out there and that's why a lot of republican governors are saying look, mitt, please tell the truth. please be transparent. and let's talk about the economy which is the number one issue that americans want to talk about. >> here raes so's someone tryinp in here. >> in communication strategy, robert knows this well. it is the -- fact -- your question to erin, so there's one new piece of information from had guy who says -- i don't think he was at meetings. but then we saw additional reports from the boston globe friday that again contradict what has been said. there are documents coming out every day that say something different. over the last couple of weeks, we have gotten different pieces, almost every day. they all contradict one another. that is the problem. you they, these kinds of things, you have to get it all out. have your narrative, explain it

and then -- you can't keep -- interest can't keep shifting like this because they are not going to be able to move past this because they are raising more questions every day. >> we have a brand-new ad out. let's take a look at it. >> when the president was elected, he talked about hope and change. whatever happened to hope and change? now it seems he's coming right out of the box with these -- old fashioned negative ads. >> starting negative by going extremely tough and extremely hard, conventional. running ads that are inaccurate. >> barack obama's campaign more negative ads against this republican nominee in 2012 than ever. >> give me a reaction to the effectiveness of this ad. >> you know, i understand what they are trying to do. classic tactic to say, you know, you hear surrogates saying obama does want to talk about the economy. nothing could be farther from the truth. in every single speech president obama does and every surrogate out there is talking about the record -- record on the economy

and job creation. and the things that he wants to do in the second term. i mean, he has done that very clearly. you heard joe biden do it to the naacp clearly. lay out a second term vision. it is a classic tactic to try to say the only reason, you know, you shouldn't care about my tax returns is because -- you know, obama is just going negative. again, mitt romney, fundamental piece here, mitt romney himself said my record as a businessman at bain capital is a primary reason for to you consider me for president. now we are asking questions -- the fact he's not prepared for these questions is problematic a. and b, the fact that these -- answers to these questions don't seem to line up with one another and don't seem to line up with, you know, new pieces of information that keep coming up. that's a real problem. they can try this tactic but in the long run it is not going to work because people still at the end of the day will say how -- you were ceo but were ceo. you were in the bahamas. it doesn't make sense to people. >> let's move up to the next topic. robert, swing state smackdown

now. president obama heads inform ohio tomorrow, cincinnati. latest polls show the president with a slight lead in both states. so how does the romney campaign compete here? what's his strategy? >> first of all, i love the whole smackdown comment. i love that. at the end of the day. >> swing state smackdown. >> i understand. look, i think at the end of the day -- slightly disagree with karen. i don't think most people wake up in the morning and say let me figure out what bain capital has done today. they are still interested in the economy. they are still interested in the economy and how it troelts them. i think what governor romney needs to do, doing this, speaking to the independent voters specifically and dash in virginia but also in southwestern i on owe and saying i'm bet other the economy. i'm trying something different. southwestern ohio is the way -- where governor romney needs on speak to. but also the tide water area of virginia. that's where the real battleground place, if you will, is in the two states. >> erin, what -- what about the

new mason-dixon poll? shows mr. romney leading the president by one point. you want to throw in the hypothetical matchup and you add marco rubio as the vp pick. then it flips. just by a point. republican ticket leading over president obama and vice president biden. what do you make of these numbers? what does that tell you about a possible romney/rubio ticket? basically, do we need to be talking about this combination? should we not? >> well, look, yank it says much at all because either way that's a tie. one point a tie in both directions. despite that mitt romney said he's -- thoroughly vetting marco rubio, between don't see much evidence that marco rub wroe is very high up on the list. he is not campaigning with mitt romney really. we haven't seen what they are -- relationship is like in the chemistry they have. i would say marco rubio is still very unlikely as potential running mate for mitt romney.

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we are back with the big three. it is time for this weekend's must reads. bringing the panel back in. erin, robert and karen. i will go to you first, erin. how do you see things? >> there's a great story in "the washington post" today by amy gardner about virginia. we were just talking swing states and the swing state smackdown, virginia is ground zero for that. she has a great story about what the state will look like this fall. >> i have to say i agree with you. we had her on the show earlier and talked about that interview. good job there. how about you, robert? what's your must read. >> great story in politico. republican governors are concerned that mitt romney is not smacking back forcefully with the obama campaign and with the strategist. they are very worried. push back and push back hard. >> thank you for that. karen, we will finish up with you. what's your must read? >> "boston globe," one of the many stories coming out, again with this conflicting information and why it matters is that it is hard to make an

argument you are bet other the economy when you may have played as a businessman undermining the economy. >> can i ask you really quick, is bain going to stay with us through november? what do you think? yes or no? >> in ads by the obama campaign, absolutely. >> okay. robert? >> no. >> okay. karen? >> absolutely. they don't have an answer. >> okay. there you have it. thank you so much. appreciate you all being here. and before we go, tonight the premiere of an msnbc documentary looking at a controversial court case that gripped this nation. casey anthony trial. her former lead attorney, jose baez, is out with a new book as we approach the one-year anniversary of her release. you are going to hear about the inner workings of the defense and a whole lot more to be on the documentary "defending casey anthony." it airs tonight at 9:00. it is definitely must-see tv for you. that's a wrap-up of this sunday edition of "weekends with alex

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we link people and fortune 500 companies nationwide and around the world. anwe will continue to free you to do more and focus on what matters. this morning we'll discuss the president's efforts to define his opponent. again the hot topic is mitt romney's tenure at bain capital. is his private sector experience his greatest strength or now a political weakness? with conflicting reports about exactly when romney left the company, the campaign's traded attacks about whether he was there when the firm began to outsource jobs, and whether romney was dishonest about his tenure. >> i think the times in the past are beneath the dignity of the presidency. i think the president needs to rein in his campaign and start talking about the real issues people care about. which relate to our economy. >> a new pretty negative turn in the campaign. so can romney clear the air

about his bain record? we'll have more information about his personal finances and investment accounts and in the end is this what voters care about? with us senior adviser to the romney campaign, ed gillespie. then, the tax fight for the fall. will rates go up? and for whom? the president sets up a fight over the middle class. >> the fate of the tax cuts for the wealthiest americans will be decided by the outcome of the next election. my opponent will fight to keep them in place. i will fight -- >> a debate here this morning with two key senators, assistant democratic leader senator dick durbin of illinois and assistant republican senator jon kyl of arizona. and our political roundtable later, with insights and analysis, including the veepstakes for mr. romney. with us, republican strategist mike murphy. president of the naacp, ben jealous. anti-tax