means to be an american. his claim of birth right citizenship is a street corner con. that's what they call it. we've heard it all. the ugly rant from high and low that never seems to end. and so my fellow americans on the right, get this. before you play umpire consider your own performance in this contest. can you say you're proud of the words your crowd has been using. can you say this is good for the country to bark over and over that the other guy who doesn't share your politics is also deserving of having everything fair game from his birth to his church attendance to his basic american loyalty. do you really feel proud? that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. welcome to "politicsnation." i'm al sharpton. tonight's lead, 83 days until voters hit the polls. and the president is laying it all on the line. in a passionate speech today, he

made it kris kal clear who's fighting for america's seniors. and he lashed out at congressman ryan's radical proposal to gut medicare. but folks, someone else suddenly seems unsure of the ryan plan too. someone who wouldn't think. >> doesn't your budget also kind of play very major savings on medicare for the same amount? >> only president obama raids $716 billion from medicare. >> you make savings. how much? >> the point -- i joined the romney ticket. >> the romney ticket. huh? someone suddenly isn't so proud of his bold plan that turns medicare into voucher programs? raising eligibility age to 67 and forces seniors to pay $6400 more for health care. mr. ryan only wants to talk

about the romney ticket? he's flipping and flopping on his own legislation? well, that makes him the perfect running mate for governor romney. on the day ryan unveiled his budget, mr. romney couldn't stop gushing. >> i applaud it. it's an excellent piece of work and very much needed. >> very much needed. excellent piece of work. let's hear him applaud it some more. >> this is a guy who's willing to stand for something. congressman ryan and i are in the same position with regards to making sure we save medicare. this is the proposal which congressman paul ryan has adopted. it's a proposal i believe is absolutely right on. >> is right on. they're in the same position until when they're not. >> some people are saying you are making it a referendum on paul ryan's budget plan. >> well, i have my budget plan,

as you know, that i've put out. and that's the budget plan that we're going to run on. >> your budget plan? what happened to right on ryan? what happened to having the same position as ryan? maybe mr. romney has clarified since then. >> there may be. we'll take a look at the differences. >> okay. i got it straight. mr. romney's going to look at the differences. well, surely he's looked at them since monday. >> there are some differences, but they're very similar. >> you heard the governor, their budgets are different, but very similar. that explains everything, folks. this is why governor romney and paul ryan are making up absurd claims that the president is taking money away from seniors. let's be clear. they're wrong. president obama has been

fighting for medicare and our seniors since day one. and he made that point today. >> i think they know their plan's not very popular. you can tell that because they're being pretty dishonest about my plan. here's what you need to know. i have strength in medicare. i have made reforms that have saved millions of seniors with medicare hundreds of dollars on their prescription drugs. i proposed reforms that will save medicare money by getting rid of wasteful spending in the system. reforms that will not touch your medicare benefits, not by a dime. their plan ends medicare as we know it. my plan reduces the costs of medicare by cracking down on fraud and waste and subsidies to insurance companies. their plan makes seniors pay more so they can give another tax cuts to millionaires and

billionaires. that's the difference between our plans on medicare. that's an example of the choice in this election and that is why i'm running for a second term as president of the united states of america. >> that's the president's plan. pretty straightforward, huh? guess that's easy when you're proud of your policy. joining me now is ana marie cox, washington correspondent for the guardian. and jared bernstein, an msnbc contributor and former chief economist for vice president joe biden. first, thanks to both of you for coming on the show tonight. >> thank you for inviting me. >> thank you. >> jared, let me start with you. did romney not read the ryan plan before he signed him on as his running mate? >> not only did he read it, but he very much endorsed it as you just saw. the first thing these guys need to do is take a day off campaigning, get in a room together, and figure out what the heck they're talking about. it's not that they're contradicting each other on a minor detail.

this is over $700 billion. that's real money. what the president said is accurate on the policy which matters the most. the affordable care act, the kind of efficiency savings that generates in medicare that he plows into helping to improve coverage to pay for prescription drugs, to provide wellness visits free of charge for seniors, that extends the life of the program by eight years. now, if the republicans ryan and romney want to take that away, then it's bye-bye to those eight years and it weakens the medicare trust fund. but they're so all over the map with this that it's hard to figure out where they're coming from today. >> now, ana marie, congressman ryan in a radio interview not too long ago -- really just a short time ago -- he said the president was vulnerable on medicare. take a listen. >> i am eager to have this debate. we're going to have this debate. and we're going to win this

debate. and the reason you're hearing these kinds of things is because the president knows he is so vulnerable on this issue. it's the president who took 716 -- the number is $716 billion from the medicare program to spend on obama care. that's cuts to current seniors that will lead to less services for current seniors. >> now, anna a marie, he says t president is vulnerable, not him. what do you say to that? >> maybe what we're seeing here is a little bit of the audacity of hope for the republican ticket. it's certainly an audacious thing to do to accuse this president, a democrat, of weakening medicare which has been a strong plank for the democrats for so long. also i have to say we're having this medicare debate and i think they're happy to have that. ryan's budget cut $800 billion from medicaid which would take

effect right away and affect 600 million seniors right away. that's just as important in this idea that we're having this debate that will somehow have an impact down the line. i think distracts people from the real choice that they're looking at that will have an effect. just in a few years from now. >> absolutely. jared, you're the economist. explain to me. the president's $716 billion that was taken out was not taken out from the insured or from the benefits, it was cut on fraud and cut on other waste. it was not taken from the benefits. what the ryan plan does takes actually from the benefits and from the people that would be serviced. so we're talking apples and oranges. though they're trying to say that the $716 billion was taken from the actual benefits or the seniors to pay for obama care which is blatantly untrue, am i

right? >> you are right. the last point is -- what we just heard ryan say is blatantly untrue and the president made this point. that's that the cuts, the $716 billion of savings in medicare, cuts in the ryan budget, are used in very different ways. they do not hurt beneficiaries at all. in fact, medicare services improve under the affordable care act in ways i just mentioned. prescription drugs, closing this thing called the doughnut hole insuring more people under medicare and medicaid and other factors i've mentioned so far. under the ryan plan. so it's really a matter of who you're targeting here. the delivery system or the beneficiaries. under the ryan plan by turning medicare into a voucher whose value rises slower than the cost of purchasing medicare coverage, now you're shifting the risk on

to medicare beneficiars. now, the median income of medicare beneficiaries is $25,000. if you think those folks can easily reach into their pockets and make up the difference between what that voucher is going to pay for and what they need for medicare, i think you're wrong. >> so if we're taking the money from the beneficiaries, if we're impacting the beneficiaries under ryan's plan, yes i see the audacity in him saying that the president's plan which really deals with waste and fraud, something i thought republicans always want to eliminate, is clearly not hurting the beneficiaries. then when you look at the fact that mr. ryan's plan clearly guts medicare. it turns it into a voucher program, raises the eligibility age to 67 and makes seniors pay $6400 more. one can understand how they

don't want to discuss this or have to start making bold distortions to even get a fair or to get a hearing here where people would look at them like what they're saying was not totally irrational. >> sometimes it is easier to get people to believe the big lie rather than a series of small lies. and this is certainly a big, big lie. as we've been discussing. the numbers don't lie about this. the numbers don't lie, just paul ryan does. and it's also true that the president is right about where these savings in medicare go. they go to tax cuts for the rich. it's not only taking money from people who need it, it's giving money to people who don't need it which is the essence of the republican tax plan in general. but this is a very specific example of it. >> and some seniors can't even afford it. my time is up. thank you ana marie cox and jared bernstein. >> thank you. ahead, paul ryan on the

ticket is sending shock waves through the republican party. everyone is forced to run with him. and you won't believe what speaker boehner is saying to reassure his team. plus, more secrets from the republican ticket. they won't explain how their policies add up. so i guess we shouldn't be sprie surprised to hear this today. >> the more we release, the more we get attacked. the more we get questioned and pushed. we have done what's legally required and there's going to be no more tax releases. and mr. romney says president obama is running a campaign of division and hate. he has it all wrong. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc.

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we're back on "politicsnation" with paul ryan's selection sending shock waves through the rest of the republican party. republicans are terrified that if the ryan's plan medicare cuts become the issue of this campaign, insiders are actually telling politico that every house candidate now is racing to get ahead of this issue. and republicans are very concerned. ryan as vp could cost house and senate seats.

nbc news kelly o'donnell reporting speaker boehner tried to reassure the republican caucus on medicare last night telling the congress quote, paul ryan gives us the ability to go on the offensive in the battle over medicare. republicans go on the offensive in the battle over medicare? good luck with that plan, mr. boehner. joining me now is dana milbank and erin mcpike. thanks for joining me tonight, both of you. >> thank you. >> tonight, let me ask you, d a dana, seriously no jokes aside. boehner trying to rally the troops by saying he wants to go on the offensive. is this even believable? >> many americans do find the republican position to be

offensive, so it's not surprising from what point of view. you know, the truth is republican house members and senators running for re-election were going to be charged with the ryan plan anyway. particularly in the house. they didn't just vote for this thing once, they did it over and over in this obsessi obsessive-compulsive tick. now it is the republican ticket. for the vast majority it's not going to matter. but where the battle is with the seats in play, this makes their challenge that much more difficult to hold on to control of the house. >> dana's right. when you look at the vote on republicans on the ryan plan, 228 voted yes. only ten voted no. and three didn't vote at all. so you have at least 228

republicans that are not only -- they voted for it. >> that shows they believe in it. they're not terrified of this. they might be jittery about it. so of course speaker boehner is going to talk to his caucus and tell them what they should be saying about it. the other thing to point out is this. mitt romney has been distancing himself from the ryan plan. one of the first things on his website says a frequently asked question about medicare is how is this different from the ryan plan. and he explains that paul ryan instead introduced something with senator ron wyden that's a bipartisan plan. and he says that's what mirrors his own plan. there is some distancing from this, but it is what republicans on the hill believe in. and they do want to push something along these lines too. >> but how do they campaign in districts where you have seniors that are now looking at the

plan, $6400 in additional money, raising the age of eligibility, and dealing with the fact that in many ways, this plan will gut out medicare as we know it? how do you campaign on that in a district like in many of these areas that have a large senior population. >> the biggest thing that we see coming from the romney campaign right now is they are saying his plan would not change medicare for anyone who is a senior citizen now. it would only change it for people under 55 because medicare is not solvent after a certain year as it is anyway. and it will change. it will not be the same as we know it today. and that is the case that they're making. i wrote about this yesterday and heard from a number of senior citizens in florida who said we're not stupid. we know it won't change for those of us who are already over 65 and are in the plan now. so that's the point they're

making. whether it's true or not, we have to wait and see what the plans are going to be like when they go under this investigation from some nonpartisan analysts. >> but, dana, we're told that is going to change in ten years. and i had people in ohio tell me what does that mean? do i not got to be around in ten years? >> of course it's going to change for people currently on the program. for those 55 and younger. they're also going to repeal obama care which puts a whole lot more into the medicare program. that will be gone. ryan also decimates the medicaid program which benefits anybody in a nursing home and all these other things. and on the other hand, romney says i'm embracing the ryan plan but i want to spend another $5 trillion on defense over the next ten years. where's that going to come out of? presumably some have to come out

of entitlements like social security and medicare. it doesn't add up if you're going to exempt any over 55? >> then you have tolah hill saying it jeopardizes the house. there are a lot of races that are close to the line we're not going to win now. it could put the senate out of reach. in the house it puts a bunch of races in play that would have otherwise been safe. it remains to be scene how much damage this causes, but my first blush is this is not good. erin, some of the republicans at least are saying they are concerned. you say maybe not terrified, let's say they are concerned. maybe very concerned. >> there's no question that there is a lot of concern throughout a big chunk of the republican party. a i've talked to a number of

strategists who said the same thing. one caveat to this is they want to see how the romney/ryan ticket and that campaign over the next couple weeks talks about this. so far they've been a little bit slow to respond just saying look, the president took $700 billion out of medicare. but they haven't gone -- they haven't done a lot to talk about their own plan yet. so we'll see how they do that over the next two weeks and make it crystal clear over the next few weeks. >> well, if we are going to see how they do based on what they've done in the last several days that they've been together, i won't be looking for a lot of fiery oratory. >> no. it's a delicate exercise. the main strategy now is to say well, we were going to be with this anyway. better to have paul ryan out for

this because he is an articulate spokesman. for someone that's going to end medicare. that's a fact. he'll replace it with something else. >> and he's articulate about it. i underhim perfectly. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. coming up, this dynamic duo swears voters will love their policy. they just won't tell anyone what those policies are. congressman barney frank is on that ahead. plus major news out of ohio and pennsylvania on the coordinated effort to suppress the vote. that's next. it doesn't get any better than endless shrimp at red lobster.

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we're back with a major announcement on voting in the battleground state of ohio. moments ago republican secretary of state john husted announced all ohio counties will have uniform hours for voting. he had been underfire for help b democratic leaning counties restrict hours while republican counties were expanding their hours. his new decision sets restrictive hours across the board. meaning some counties that had expanded hours will now be

limited. but this means all ohioans are on a level playing field. another decision could have been better, but at least it's fair. the pressure is working. and that brings me to pennsylvania. pennsylvania, that's where the pressure needs to be ramped up. in a shocking decision today, commonwealth court judge robert simpson, a republican, refused to block the new strict voter i.d. law that passed this year. according to his ruling, quote, the photo i.d. requirement is a reasonable, non-discriminatory, non-severe burden. and it imposes only a limited burden on voters. limited burden? reasonable? non-discriminatory? this is a slap in the face of democracy. and a clear upholding of voter

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picked this up. >> i haven't laid out all the details of how we're going to deal with each one of the deductions and exemptions. i think it's interesting for the groups who try to score it. because it can't be scored. those details will have to be figured out with congress. we have a wide array of options. >> that's the plan? today romney doubled down telling fortune manager sooen his tax plan will be worked out. eventually. some day. after he's in office. look, the romney/ryan tax plan is at the heart of this selection. the policy center found the plan would actually raise taxes on the middle class by $2,000 while giving a tax break of $87,000 to millionaires. ryan and romney say that's not true. and yet they refuse to explain why it's not true. they're trying to play a magic

trick. let's not get fooled. joining me now is congressman barney frank, democrat from massachusetts. he's also the top democrat on the house financial services committee. mr. chairman, first thanks for joining me this evening. now, congressman -- i'm not -- let me get your mic straight. as we're getting the mic straight of congressman frank who certainly lives up to his name of being frank can help explain to me one of the things i was looking at in my notes is that mr. ryan more than anything else what is bothering me today is ryan refuses even in an interview that is friendly to

lay out what hiss policies are. congressman frank, you've worked with him. you know him. why is he ducking on policy questions? >> because he is a combination of a very extreme right wing ideologue and a politician. what he wants to do is unpopular with the american people. some of it has some popularity. what you get from them is if you're wealthy we're going b to cut your taxes substantially. we're going to reduce the capital gains rate. and he says we'll make it up somewhere else. they won't tell you how as you've noted, because the somewhere else will come from some people. so they'll tell you what they're going to cut. they're going to tell you what they have to increase. and it's clear as the people you've quoted or talked about. that's going to come from people who are less wealthy. what you have is a very

conservative man, i believe an economic extremist, who understands politics and understands that what he would like to do isn't popular. they will talk about some things that will make some people happy. let me throw in one other thing, when we figure out what he's going to do to clean water, police on the streets, to housing for the elderly. any other program to improve the quality of life here. this is a man who wants to reduce taxes on the whole and reduce the deficit and increase military spending. the ryan budget brags in his writing that he plans to give an increase to the military in real terms. that is above inflation. so we're out of iraq. we want to get out of afghanistan. and two weeks ago, and this is relevant, i teamed up with a tea party guy from south carolina to begin to bring down the military budget. it's too high, the soviet union has collapsed. and we asked for a fairly small

cut, a billion dollars out of the 500-something billion. and we won. and 89 republicans voted with us including this guy in the tea party. paul ryan voted no. paul ryan voted against any -- >> you had a tea party guy with you on this, voting with you for this small cut, and paul ryan voted even though you were partnering with a tea party guy on this? >> he voted no. i'm afraid i gave the tea party guy a bad name. we had an amendment that said the president could not cut nuclear weapons. ryan voted for that. this is a man who wants to increase military spending which is already too high even as we pull back from the wars. by the way, he voted for both wars. he has always voted for increased military spending. it's a three legged stool but all the pressure is on one leg. he wants to reduce taxes on the

whole. he wants to increase military spending and cut the deficit. that means everything we do to improve the quality of life at home, build highways, build public transportation, clean up the water, have the fbi out there helping us, it all has to get slashed deeply. >> well, you know, the right wing calls ryan a deficit hawk. but look at his record. he voted for the bush tax cuts adding $1.7 trillion to the deficit. voting to extend the bush-era tax cuts adding another $620 billion. authorized military force in iraq. $853 billion. medicare part d another $180 billion. all together, more than $5 trillion added to the deficit. this is a hawk, congressman? >> no, but i will note the t.a.r.p. did not cost us $224 billion. it cost us in the tens of billions to save the auto

industry and he now says he was not in favor of that. especially when you look at the overall impact, no. what it is is this. these are right wingers who have this philosophy going back to ayn rand. that individualism is the answer and that everybody should be on his or her own. so feeding poor children, cleaning up the atmosphere, putting out fires in cities, those are things they would deny funding. now, they are really using the deficit frankly as an excuse to perpetuate an ideological agenda. you don't cut taxes for people making huge amounts of money. we talk about raising taxes for 36% to 39% on people making over $1 million. that means every $100,000 you

make over a million, you'd pay a couple hundred dollars extra. that's nothing. these wealthy people, if we raise the taxes at that amount wouldn't know it unless the accountant told them. they're for diminishing everything we've tried to do since franklin roosevelt to come together and say we're a rich country. and we have to live together in this common space. we want to worry about people who can't make it on their own. and we'll take some of our resources and work together. and there again is the ideological. what he's then saying is how do we get people to reduce medicare and social security which are popular programs? we don't say we're going to it to reduce them for philosophical reasons. we say we get rid of the deficit. but that's inconsistent for what they do to raise the deficit. >> we've got to have you back more. thanks as always.

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welcome back. now that governor romney's got his running mate, the money race to november is on. and we know the gop has big money. romney's always had the billionaire boys club on his side. from casino mogul sheldon adelson to the koch brothers to bain capital. the president's got a secret weapon of his own. hollywood. this year it includes tyler perry. who hosted an event for the president in his atlanta home. george clooney who hosted a $15 million star studded obama fund raiser. and movie mogul harvey wienstein who joined vogue magazine's editor in a fund raiser this month.

meantime, the hollywood reporter says concern over the radical agenda will move more supporters to get active. joining me now is actress sanaa lathan. she this week joins the cast of the political drama "boss" which stars kelsey grammer as the ruthless, corrupt mayor of chicago. 2008, she lathan, served as one of president obama's celebrity surrogates. thank you for being here. >> i'm excited to be here. >> i'm a big fan of yours. >> i'm a big fan of yours. >> thank you so much for saying that. helps me with my daughters. i want to talk to you about "boss" in a moment. i want to talk about you in politics. you were a big supporter of the president in 2008. are you still a supporter? >> absolutely yes.

i went to vegas, i went to ohio. i talked to students in colleges. i went to barbershops and churches. i got people registered. i was surprised how many people supported the president and actually weren't registered. they were like yeah, i'm going to vote. i was like you got to register first. it was great to educate people. this year i've been so busy. i'm about to start production on a play. i wasn't able to travel. i'm doing my work in l.a. >> in 2008 there was a lot of enthusiasm. are you feeling that now or has it changed? >> i mean, i think, you know, it's human nature. it's no longer a new thing. i mean, people are a little bit -- they're suffering because of the economy. and he's human. i think he's done so much for america, for health care, for women. there's a long list. if people do their list, they'll realize how much obama has done for this country. i think it's going to take time to get us back into good

economic shape. and i think people have to be patient. >> now, when you see ads, americans for prosperity has an ad out. i want to show you this and hear what you think when you hear this. >> in 2008 i voted for president obama with no reluctance. >> he presented himself as something different. >> i hoped the new president would bring new jobs. >> i think he's a great person. i don't feel he is the right leader for our country though. >> i still believe in hope and change. i just don't think obama is the way to go for that. >> the president has not earned re-election. >> now, you've kept your support -- >> that music was very melodramatic. those ads are a trip. what do i say to that? in this day and age it's cut throat, obviously, how people are campaigning. they'll do whatever they can. i just -- i think it's just

unrealistic to think we're going to become brand spanking new and shiny again in four years. it takes time. so i think people just have to really be real about that. >> let's talk about "the boss." kelsey grammer is not your lovable, kind of warm guy. we remember he's ruthless in part because he's secretly coping with a fatal illness, i believe. >> yes. he plays mayor cain, chicago mayor. it's a fictional mayor of chicago. and the mayor is dealing with a debilitating illness. >> and you are new in this season. you're going to go to work for him. >> yes. >> take a look. i'm going to show a clip. >> if we lose the majority, cain votes in a tie breaker and wins. that can't happen. >> you stay where you are imagining change. or decamp and make it happen.

>> how do i know this isn't you taking home a trophy on top of winning the vote? >> only one way to find out. offer expires as soon as i walk out the door. >> you play mona. does mona have any idea what she's getting into? >> she's kind of the moral center of this season. everybody is kind of corrupt in this world of "boss." and i think she has hope. and she goes to work for the mayor because she's an advocate for her community. she's very smart and politically savvy. she thinks the mayor is going to help with the community. you'll is a to tune in to see if it happens. >> we'll be watching. i'm a big fan. thank you for being here. >> thank you. my pleasure. coming up, a comment vice

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finally tonight i want to talk about a comment vice president biden made that's getting a lot of attention. initially i didn't want to bring it up, but the right wing won't let it go. take a listen. >> romney wants to let the -- he said in the first hundred days he's going to let the big banks once again make their own rules. unchain wall street. they're going to put y'all back in chains. >> now the saying misspoke is a good argument. but here's what the romney team has been saying instead for the last two days. >> this is what an angry and

desperate presidency looks like. mr. president, take your campaign of division and anger and hate back to chicago. the comments of the vice president as i heard them i thought were one more example of a divisive effort to keep from talking about the real issues. >> hate? division? anger? what? as i said, the vice president could have used different or better language, but it was a mistake. but where is the hate in that comment? he wasn't talking about blacks, he was talking about wall street, regulation, middle class. the middle class was never in chains. but while we're on it, let's talk about the hate in this campaign. mr. romney's surrogates have been out there saying things like this for months. >> this one line called place of birth. i'd like to see what it said. perhaps it's going to say hawaii. perhaps it's going to say kenya.

>> if they want to punch us, we're going to punch back with brass knuckles. if any person in this entire debate has blood on their hands in regard to medicare, it's barack obama. >> i wish this president would learn how to be an american. >> what do we hear from the romney team on these statements? silence. but we also didn't hear anything from the president. because he doesn't complain. he knows politics is a tough game. >> this is after all politics. there's no whining in politics. >> so mr. romney, when the vice president talks about unchaining wall street and then makes another statement you make that hate. you really don't want to talk about hate in this campaign when we've heard the president referred to as a food stavrp president. when you left the naacp and told me that night and said they have no know they're not going to