clintons. >> i'm s.e. cupp. >> i'm toure. it was only a matter of time before i was able to get lady gaga on to the show. >> i can top that. a big confession coming in "the cycle" for this thursday, august 16th. it's thursday, and as all you "cycle" viewers know that means my campaign, all right, as if i knew anything about baseball, with apologies to king felix in seattle, we are now in the top of the fifth inning about the halfway point in the presidential race. we say that because we now know both tickets, but like most games, most campaigns aren't won or lost in the early frames. the real drama is going to come in the later innings. so what we know so far is that the early part of this year's game has been dominated by slash and burn and act and react politics. and an ad war that's sucking up

millions and millions of dollars and funneling them into negative messages. while both sides moan and groan about the other guys, both sides appear to be content appealing only to their bases forgetting entirely about trying to convert those in the middle. an election that looks frankly a little bit like 2004 with obama playing bush and romney as the out of touch john kerry. but we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves here. the big pictures are yet to be made. we have the conventions, debates, the intensity of september, october and even early november still ahead. to that point, a curve ball from team romney today. they finally got into the specifics, i guess, of their medicare plan. >> there's no change in medicare for seniors. none. under my plan. so for these down here, all right, you asked me, which of these two do you think is better? going bankrupt or being solvent? >> we need this debate and we will win this debate. >> joining us now is dave

lebenthal, money and politics reporter for "politico." thanks so much for joining us. >> good to be with you. >> we have romney out there with the whiteboard. i have to say i think the whiteboard is a much underused tool in political stump speeches. we also had karl rove in the "wall street journal" saying democrats have long had an issue advantage on medicare, republicans cowered in fear. this time it's different. if republicans succeed, politics will never be the same." so the republicans seem to be embracing medicare as an issue. can republicans and romney and ryan run on medicare and win in november? >> they absolutely have to own this issue because if they don't own the issue then the democrats will and the democrats will paint this issue any which they way want to. of course, with paul ryan now on the ticket, it automatically elevates itself up into a level of prevalence that it probably never would have had before. so ultimately what you're seeing right now is republicans trying to just get a stranglehold on the issue of medicare, say, hey, we're not afraid to talk about

it, we're going to go it to florida, we're going to two to iowa, we're going to go to states with large populations of senior citizens and take it right to them. >> dave, i agree with you. i'm wondering if you think the strategy is to get that medicare conversation out of the way. so as opposed to this is something we think we can win on through november, do you think it's something they think they can win on now and then dismiss it and move back to jobs and the economy? >> it's something that effectively they have owned up to having to talk about now because if they don't talk about it now, you're going to expect the democrats in the next coming weeks and certainly at their national convention to just talk about this issue ad nauseam and something republicans, again, are raleally going to have to articulate into a detailed way, talking about the particulars they want to do. mitt romney, as he said, is something they fear and don't feel it's going to hurt seniors. if they don't articulate it, then they do so at their own peril. >> dave, following up on that, though, i get the idea that sort of, they understand the danger

of this. they want to try to own the issue. they're putting outs, you know, their message now, but their message is discombobulated on this. cut medicare by $700 billion. then you have, well, the paul ryan plan has the exact same cuts in them so now paul ryan is basically argue against his own plan. he's asked about his budget, he says, i'm not running on my budget, i'm running on the romney budget. when does the romney budget get balanced? he's asked, and doesn't have an answer. it's confusing. i'm asking you here, do you have a sense, is this something the republicans anticipated, that the romney campaign anticipate ed when they picked ryan or making this up as they go along? >> they anticipated. they have a lot of herd urdles overcome, particularly the differences between what mitt romney has set forth and ryan have set forth and what other republicans have set forth, too, and plan s and ideas they have

for medicare. they have to get on one page. the challenge is going to be over the next couple weeks going into their convention to really get all on the same page and talking with that unified voice. >> all right. dave, thanks so much. those were great insights. dave leventhal from politico. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. so in addition to romney's whiteboard medicare antics he's also out with a new attack line on the president here's been reitera reiterating. let's take a listen. >> his campaign and his surrogates have made wild and reckless accusations that disgrace the office of the presiden presidency. this is what an angry and desperate presidency looks like. mr. president, take your campaign of division and anger and hate back to chicago. >> woo. take it back to chicago. that anger and hate. so when i listen to that, to me, the word seemed sort of loaded, but i wanted to get you all's thoughts. toure, what did you think about that? >> that really bothered me. you notice he said anger twice.

he's trying to use racial coding and really deep stereotypes about the angry black man. this is part of the playbook against obama. the other, he's not like us. i know it's a heavy thing. i don't say it lightly. this is, you are not one of us, you are like the scary black man who we've been trained to fear. the idea of locating anger around barack obama just doesn't fit with who he is and who he has trained himself to be, going back to high school, training himself to be no drama obama. >> who are they talking to then, here? >> they're talking to people who are trained to hate him, who want to hate him. it's a base turnout election, so this is how we can rev up the base to work against him. >> let me get this straight, just have i so this straight, in addition to calling mitt romney something as a racist and the whole of the base as racist, joe biden makes a racially charged comment, which you and many others on the left called divisive. mitt romney comes out, calls that comment divisive, but

because he used the word, angry, now his is the racially charged comment. do you see how dishonest that is? >> well, you know, i didn't call anybody racist. right? because i don't want to deal with that. it's a bit too much. >> oh, certainly you were implying that mitt romney and the base will respond to this dog whistle racially charged coding. >> absolutely. >> and hate obama, the angry black man? >> the gop has been working -- >> that's so irresponsible, toure. >> the gop has been working with racial codes going back to reagan and perhaps before. going back to nixon with the war on drugs. reagan with the welfare queens. the first bush with the willie horton. i mean, this is typical lee atwater politics, karl rove politics. this is typical republican -- >> again, the whole of the party, the whole of the party uses this racial coding? >> he's not saying that. >> he just did. >> he's not saying that. he is calling out this particular instance. >> this is not a revolutionary comment. this is a constituency all white

party that rejects the black vote. >> you have two white guys in joe biden and mitt romney. joe biden made the overtly racial comment and has a history of making bigoted remarks. mitt romney was responding to the comment yet he is the one responsible for the whole republican history of racism in politics. >> that's not what toure is saying. you're twisting his words. >> he can speak for himself. >> he's using playbook republicans have been using for decades now. >> in your view. >> no, no, this is not my view. >> this is fact. okay. i get it. >> this has been laid out by many, many scholars. >> i would suggest there's something broader going on here. i'll give the republicans the benefit of the doubt here. i think what they're trying to do here is drive up the personal negatives ratings for obama and trying to attach words and associations to him that will make people dislike him frankly as much as they dislike mitt romney. i think the political problem you're running into here, he invokes -- mitt romney invokes chicago in this thing we just listened to.

from the moment barack obama became a democratic nominee in '08, republican attacks on chicago politics and how barack obama embodies chicago. we've heard about jeremiah wright in '08. there was a racial element to it, trying to make him sound like a radical. the point here is if it didn't work in '08, hasn't registered with voters in four years he's been president, it isn't going to suddenly start working now. >> they still like him. he's still a likable guy. >> you can't deny the racially coded dog whistles have worked for the republican party in the past. that's not to say all republicans are racist or mitt romney is racist but the tactic of using the coded words has worked in the past. but we've got more to get to here in "the cycle." up next, we're going to be talking about cozying up to the clintons. republicans begging for hillary? s.e.? what's up with that? we're putting that through the spin cycle as we roll on through august 16th. ll things can make a big difference. like how a little oil from here

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i think he might be wise to do that, but that's not going to happen obviously. for a whole variety of reasons. including the fact i'm not sure if i were hillary clinton i'd want to be on that team. >> that was the last republican ticket, urging president obama to kick joe biden to the curb and make hillary clinton his number two. so i have a second day job actually, a columnist for salon.com. i happen to write about this today. there's a shameless plug right

there. look, there is certainly no denying the american public has a crush on the clintons. >> i know i do. >> the latest gallup poll shows both bill and hillary are enjoying the highest popularity ratings in their political lives. both of them near 70% favorability. so, look, i think there's a problem here for republicans, and the story to me goes something like this. 16 years, if anybody remembers the 1990s or really most of the last decade, there was no bigger enemy, no bigger villain in republican story telling than the clintons. they impeached bill clinton. we can start there, go from that point. there was a moment that you could pinpoint, i believe, in the 2008 campaign when barack obama, became clear obama was going to be the democratic nominee. the clinton restoration wasn't going to happen. and the republicans completely decided we're going to revise history. now we like bill, now we like hillary, now we remember the '90s as this happy time. it served a useful political purpose for them for the last four years. it's allowed them to say we're

not knee jerk rejectionists, not against all democrats. >> hillary would have been a better president. you see this over and over again. it's popped up in their ads and romney speeches. look at polls like that, that is sort of the result. i look ahead to 2016. in 2008, hillary was a front-runner in the democratic nomination. it was kind of a miracle that she lost. the one vulnerability she had was the democrats looked and said, she's too polarizing. the polarization is gone. >> it's not a miracle she lost. she lost because she was the early front-runner and the arrogance that went along with that and they felt like a black guy, they underestimated him because they were the clintons, because he was a black guy in 2007, and it was talked about this in "the atlantic" magazine, we didn't feel the need to respond to that until it was too late. >> wasn't a big part of it that democrats looked at the clintons and looked at the wars of the '90s and impeachment and looked at that stuff and said, too polarizing, let's turn the page? hillary, if she runs in 2016,

that argument is inoperative. she and her husband are the two most popular people in this country. the republicans have laid down for them. >> see, i am as big a hillary clinton fan in particular as you're going to find, but i don't underestimate the republicans' ability, again, just as they did before, to turn on a dime and start demonizing hillary clinton again as soon as she throws her hat in the ring if hopefully she does in 2016 and the american public has a short political memory. i think that their favorability ratings could fall as quickly as they've risen. >> well, i just want to briefly confess, i am part of this republican problem. back in 2010, i did write a column in the "new york daily news" suggesting that hillary run, in fact, against obama in 2012. half of this is rhetorical conceit, right, to be able to say, i don't hate all democrats. in fact, this democrat is so bad i am now onboard with this democrat. but half of it is also that she has unwittingly and to her great

credit managed to keep her fingerprints off of some of the most toxic aspects of the obama administration unlike most people in this cabinet. so i think she is well positioned, in fact, to run. >> until she starts to run. >> i participated in the democratic version of that which is saying by today, in comparison to today's republicans, george w. bush is looking pretty good. >> right. >> i always knew s.e. had an inner democratic cheerleader. there we go. anyway, beginning today the most expansive immigration relief policy in 25 years is in effect. it's going to allow thousands of young illegal immigrants to apply for a two-year amnesty so long as they're in soochool, th military or have a job. jan brewer has issued an order barring illegal immigrants who qualify from receiving any state or local funds. critics of the amnesty program charge it's simply an election year ploy by the president to win over latino voters. >> it is no coincidence that

this sweeping policy change was announced less than five months before a presidential election. >> all right. let's stipulate, there are some election year politics involved here. let's talk about those election year politics. to me, i think the biggest political effect of what obama's done with this executive order is something we'll never be able to measure. if you can think back to a few months ago, romney was basically telegraphing his move, coming out of the primaries where he'd gone far to the right on immigration. republicans had a huge problem with latino voters. it was going to be marco rubio introducing in the senate what obama came out and did himself. wow, romney is the leader, moved away from his base and obama is standing around powerless. oba obama co-opted on that. >> it would be interesting to see if it played out the way romney wanted to. look, the republican party is an all white party in terms of its

constituency. that is what they're all about. even as s.e. -- >> i don't know how you can feel responsible making such an incredible statement. >> it's absolutely true. it's what they play to. this is the most important re-election for hispanics ever because if they turn out and vote for obama and put him back in the white house, the gop is going to have to change its immigration policy forever and embrace hispanics and whey they need electorally because you can't run on all white party in america with this gigantic bloc of hispanics in america. >> well, i'm going to virespondo what you said, steve, instead. i think you're right that this move by obama was politically brilliant. i mean, it was masterful. it really robbed mitt romney of an opportunity i know he wanted in this campaign at just the right moment. but for all of the earnestness that comes along with the rhetoric around this bill, and i actually think this bill will do some good things, it is so clearly political.

i mean, one day obama's bragging about how deporty he's been and literally a few weeks later he passes this, you know, basically an amnesty package. so, at a crucial time in the election. so, i mean, i don't know that we can ascribe any sort of sentimentality to this but it was politically very smart. >> i think everyone would argue that the president is on the side of a path to citizenship. that this is something we genuinely wanted to do, so in that way it's not a political calculation. >> why does he do it? >> i agree with you -- because there's no support for it. they tried to pass the dream act and even the dream act couldn't get through the house. you know, i agree with you, and steve, that the timing was definitely political, and to me, that's a beautiful thing. the fact that there is political incentive, that it's a politically smart move to be on the side of increased rights for immigrants. that tells me we're on the downhill side of that debate where it's becoming more

politically beneficial to be behind the latino community and immigration reform than it has been in the past. >> it's politically beneficial -- >> that's a great thing. if you're on the side of immigration reform, that's a great thing. >> okay. >> that it's the right thing to do and it's the politically good thing. >> it's politically good because of the numbers. >> right. >> okay. all right. >> and the right thing to do. it's great when those things line up. >> okay. >> i want to know if using the word deporty is a politically good thing or not. >> a new adjectivadjective. >> he was deporty. >> i think it works. let's add it to the dictionary. congressional approval hits an all-time low. a long-time staffer tells us why he's not surprised and you shouldn't be either. where washington went wrong and how we can reclaim our congress. that's next on "the cycle." time for the "your business" entrepreneurs of the week.

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you don't need me to tell you that americans don't like

congress much. over the past few years our lawmakers have rated lower than porn, bankbanks, but just when thought it couldn't get worse, it actually has. according to gallup, congressional approval has crashed to an all-time low of 10%. 10%. that's worse than even telemarketers. and according to our next guest, that's all for good reason. the longtime capitol hill staffer says he's watched the party of lincoln take a page from nicholson and become the party of lunatics. sorry, gop. and the democrats have become empty suits that should take work as extras in amc's "the walking dead." not my language, his. in the guest spot today, mike, years in congress, the last 16 of which he was seen wror -- he author of "the party's over: how the party went crazy, democrats became useless and the middle

class got shafted." >> good to be here. >> i love the title of your book. it puts thesis right out there for us. in your estimation, what are some of the -- what's the most important theme people should take from this book? >> well, our political dysfunction, and we do have a broken system, is bigger than any one party. it's the system, itself. it's been taken over by wall street. it's been taken over by corporate money. it's become a servador of those interests and no longer serves the broad public interest. both parties are captured by wall street and the corporations. the democrats are rather shame faced about it. >> at least they're embarrassed. >> apologetic. >> at least they're embarrassed about it. >> the republicans are quite proud of that. i believe there was a certain political candidate who said corporations are people. but in any case, both of them

are captured by wall street. that said, some of the particular dysfunctions of the last few years i fear are the responsibility of the party of lincoln. when you start talking about death panels, muslim infiltration of the government, birtherism and this sort of thing, that's not the sort of talk we want to hear from people governing the most important economic and military power in the world. >> so, mike, speaking of the party of lincoln, you wrote an article as former hill staffer who sort of became disenchanted with the party and left that many liberal democrats like myself read with much glee and one of the lines from that article i think is quite relevant now. it says "if you think paul ryan and his ayn rand worshipping

colleagues aren't after your social security and medicare, i am here to disabuse you of your naivete." so what i'm wondering from you, how much in your estimation is paul ryan wearing the proverbial pants in the republican party right now and really driving the policy agenda? >> i really couldn't say that because there's other factors that are certainly involved. mr. romney may have chosen congressman ryan because it revs up his base and it certainly seems to have done that. but we have to wonder, given that in 2005 president bush pushed his abortive seem for privatizing social security. that was a big item on the agenda of paul ryan. >> right. >> and although he doesn't talk about it now, and it's not in his last two budgets, that's something he would like to do, and if he had control of the presidency in both houses of

congress, i wouldn't be surprised if he didn't try to push it. >> mike, you're republican and yet i read your book and my heart was racing like i was reading a romance novel. you said that -- >> be still, my heart. >> you said that the republican party is scaring you. that they don't believe what they say. use the word, zanies, lunatics, crack pot outliars, radical backward looking, operating on the principle the worse politics get the better for them. i have to be honest, i'm man crushing on you a little bit right now. i'm not afraid to say that. and i thought all this, but i thought it was being unfair and partisan, but you put it in black and white. you've been on the hill forever. you're in that party and see the dysfunction that that party is bringing to politics in general. how did the gop in your words go crazy? >> i think it was a variety of factors. a 30-year process of pandering

to the religious right. i think it's part of the 24/7 talk radio cycle. as the public gets more polarized. and i think it was also a matter of the money that's infusing into politics. special interests can now fund slash and burn campaigns, but probably the final straw was president obama's election in 2008. and there are plenty of issues on which i disagree with president obama. i don't agree with many aspects of his health care legislation. but he was legitimately elected president of the united states. and in early 2009, what did mitch mcconnell say as this country was on the verge of serious, serious economic

problems? he wasn't concerned about unemployment as his first priority or making sure the banks were solvent. he wanted to make sure president obama was a one-term president. >> you know, mike, let me just get in for a sec. i love these defection stories. they're great, whether it's zel miller or arlen specter, the latest, art davis, who's going to speak at the rnc of all places. these are great, because understandably they give you some credibility. i used to be a republican and now i'm distancing myself and from the inside i can look out and tell you what's wrong. but you also outline in the book what's wrong with the left. can i hear some of those, please? >> sure. and just to clear things up, i didn't really defect in the sense of becoming a democrat. >> sure. >> i consider myself an independent. i believe people who follow ideological labels simply not to be thinking. but to your question -- >> right. >> -- the democrats, sometime in

the late '80s after they'd lost three presidential elections, decided to retool. so they became kind of the party of me, too, but less. they became very corporate friendly. and we saw later on in the '90s how bill clinton presided over the repeal of glass steagall. he signed the repeal of any laws relating to derivatives and regulating them. so he was in on it as well. and, of course, his treasury secretary, robert ruben, was a big friend of wall street. as is tim geithner now. >> great critique there of both parties mike lofgren. thanks so much for joining us today. >> enjoyed being here. up next, what does the next gen think of the paul ryan vp pick? one of our young guns, connor, joins us straight ahead. [ male announcer ] in a world where breakfast

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to be young again. we all know that 2008 was a record year for youth voter turnout. young people were out and proud and a whopping 66% of their vote went to president obama whose boyish good looks, fluent tech speak and inspiring promises of hope and change charmed their skinny jeans and baggy pants off. but what now? four years later and the president's got some gray on his temples. little less pep in his step. and the harsh realities of recession are setting in for voters of all ages. and there's a new kid on the block, governor romney's tapped paul ryan, the spry 42-year-old fiscal wonk to be his running mate. and while he may not make a convincing rock star for young people, there are some who think he may be able to pull younger voters to the right this year. in fact, a new zogby poll

conducted post ryan has romney cresting at 41% among 18 to 29-year-olds for the first time. so does the president still have the magic touch, or can the two least hip men in politics make a case for the youth vote? let's bring in our guest connor toohill, editor in chief of "next gen" journal. connor, we all know young people reliably vote liberal but the other is they reliably don't vote. 51% of eligible of 18 to 29-year-olds voted in 2008, up from 48% in 2004 and the low 40s in 2000 and 1996. turnout for young voters this year is expected to be much lower than it was in 2008. so how do we convince young folks to get out there and participate in this great experiment called democracy? >> well, i think that's a great point, and actually what's interesting about 2008, turnout was actually considered to be pretty decent and at that time we had a gallup poll that came

out about this time before the election and 78% of registered young voters said they were definitely planning to vote in november. this time around it's only 58%. >> right. >> so i think we're seeing a lot of disengagement. we're seeing a lot of undecided young voters as well. and i think really what we need to see in terms of trying to combat that is both candidates trying to speak directly to our generation and really lay out their vision for what they're trying to do and also why it matters to us, because we're at a time when a lot of young people don't just not trust any given candidate but really have love lost a lot of faith in the political process overall. >> connor, to that point, are there specific issues you would urge governor romney and president obama to focus on that young people like yourself are particularly engaged in? >> well, i think above all it's always going to be the economy. you know, we're at a time when over 50% of recent college graduates are either underemployed our unemployed. student loan debt is important. education and the national debt

always rank pretty highly in polling done by the great folks at the harvard institute of politics. i think above all it's going to come back to jobs over and over again. >> john zogby in the poll we talked about earlier gave an interview y the "washington examiner" connor, and he was talking about paul ryan and this idea maybe he can pull over some younger voters. he said in addition to, you know, his youthfulness and the fact that so many young voters are concerned about the economy, he said maybe it has to do with the fact that libertarianism is getting a boost from young voters. do you see that as much as a factor? >> yeah, actually i think maybe the least comlling factor to me is his age. i was on here about nine months ago and remember hearing, ron paul, how do any young people like him? he's 70-some years old. i think age is ultimately not the most important factor. what happens with our generation is you have a lot of people who no longer think public service is a very honorable profession, who don't think that politicians really believe what they say, who think they're willing to

change positions easily and not take any risks. and with someone like paul rye wrap, whatever you think of his policies, you can look at him and say, here's a guy who's trying to have a vision and exkue execute it. >> connor is totally right. ryan is young for politics, he certainly doesn't read young and his chronological age is not the thing that's going to move younger people. as connor's talked about, ron paul moves younger people. he's old enough to be their grandfather. >> i like that s.e. called paul ryan spry. >> little tongue in cheek in there. >> we talk about vice presidential candidates, there's a tendency, it's going to work with this group, going to work with that group. walter mondale put the first woman ever on the ticket, did nothing to bring extra women to the ticket in '84. john mccain put sarah palin, 2008, did nothing to bring women to the republican ticket. so we start looking at, okay, we have a guy who's 42, who maybe reads a little -- >> certainly you don't think mitt romney's calculation was

i'm putting paul ryan on the ticket to get the youth vote, right? >> the other thing that's interesting here when we talk about the youth vote, look at 2008 and president obama. i think the youth vote, his appeal to young voters in 2008, has been used against him sort of as a weapon by his opponents because there's been this implication i noticed, a lot of conservatives who make the case against obama, at least as i've heard it, have been, well, he's only there because he really appealed to the young voters who don't know any better. the college students, whatever it was. the reality is, he had huge support from young voters. take everybody under 30 out of the electorate he only loses two states he won, north carolina and indiana. >> and the votes who only vote for him because he's black. >> there's the coalition. >> okay. there we go again. connor toohill, thanks for joining us. up next, how long do you go without checking your cell phone? and which country sends the most sexy pics? i don't want to know. "time" magazine is breaking down

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>> stop calling, stop calling. i don't want to think more. i left my head and my heart on the dance floor. profound words from the post modern philosopher lady gaga speaking to how we desire to escape from our cell phones but can't. the start of the video she's literally in prison. "time" magazine's new issue is the wireless issue which they call a superextension of ourselves and notices it's hard to think of any object in history in which so many developed so close a relationship so quickly as we have with our phones. 66% of people worldwide say if they had to choose between leaving home with either their phone or their lunch, would pick their phone. >> amen. >> we are tethered in ways that leave us often not present in the room that we're in. have these devices actually made our world worse? >> well, yes. they have. i mean, in many ways cell phones have done wonderful things for my life and the world and the planet, but i really feel like there are -- i have less focus

and less concentration since getting an iphone which i've only had a couple of years. and maybe i've just convinced myself of this, but now every time i forget to do something or i'm absent minded about something, i blame the iphone because i feel like it's -- there's like this little chunk of my brain taken by the iphone that nothing else -- >> there's not awful feeling which i'm experiencing as we speak. we came down here an hour ago to sit down at the set. i always bring my phone with me. for some reason i forgot it up in the office. in the entire show, in the commercial breaks i had this impulse, i want to take it out, i want to check twitter, i want to check nigh inbox. there's going to be nothing there. i probably have not missed anything for the last hour but i have had this awful feeling of just, i am disconnected. >> what if you miss something? what if you did miss something? >> don't you feel like, people usually say, go without it and you'll get home and find out what you missed in the hour, whatever. i actually feel like since getting a smartphone and having information with me constantly

makes me less stressed because i'm not dying to get home to my computer to see what e-mails i missed in the 20 minute i was on the train. >> you're not paying attention to the world that you're in. right? how often do we walk down the street and we have to dodge people because people are walking down the street looking at their thing and not paying attention t-- >> you're dodging me. i'm the one walking down street like this. >> i remember being about 20 and saying to my mom, what did you guys do when you went out on a friday or saturday night and you didn't have atms, when she was the going out age, what did you do when you went out and your dinner was too expensive and you didn't have any more cash? she was like, you know, we used to go certain places and cash a check. our kids will be, what did you do before there were cell phones? we'll be like, i don't know. >> what did we do before -- >> it's amazing when you think about it. my first cell phone i think i got, like, in 2001 or 2002 which, to me, that doesn't sound like that long ago. i mean, think of the late '90s,

doesn't seem that distance. we were in a world where most people weren't walking around with cell phones or if they were, they could be used just to make a phone call. >> we're old enough to remember when computers are something that were always at home. right? we're not really connected to other things. they were kind of virtual typewriters, like really good typewriters. and now we carry a computer around with us, it does so much. >> it's our lifeline. >> i do my job on this phone. this phone is crucial for my daily existence. >> even if i wanted to give it up, i really couldn't. i have to say in the two weeks when we were off during the olympics and i was in canada for one of those weeks and i don't have a canadian plan, whatever. my phone didn't work there. i had to put it aside. after a day of feeling very anxious and uncomfortable about it, i did feel better. like, i felt more focused. i felt clearer minded. >> you're constantly changing your attention span. right, so you're on your phone then you're in the real world, you're on your phone. and that changing takes a lot of

brainpower. changing what you're doing. rather than when you do one thing for a long period of time and focus on something, so removing the constant changing is good good for your mind. >> research, too, shows that because of our multitasking and smart phones have brains that look like the brains of addicts. >> can we talk about sexting for a second? >> i'd rather not. >> there was something really interesting in this story because we think, we have these scandals now that break with celebrities like tiger woods or whatever where people get caught sending lewd things. our society is actually looking pretty good when you compare it to the rest of the world. it may be shocking, that nearly a quarter of all u.s. respondents, a majority of 18 to 35-year-old men, have sent sexually provocative pictures. south africa, 45% -- we're pure

compared to the rest of the world. it's actually a rarity. >> i don't know why any man in the world would think that sending a picture of himself to a woman would work? does that ever work? >> in brazil. >> it doesn't work, guys. you need to try an entirely new tactic. it works the other direction. >> we don't want a picture. >> i have nothing to say. >> what? >> next up, krystal's about to reveal a secret that doesn't have anything to do with sexting. but first, a little music from someone who's got no secrets. madonna, because it's her birthday. ♪

so, i have a confession. a secret that no one on this show even knows. i like ian rand. i really like the fountain pen, but couldn't force myself through the entire speech, so i guess i'm not a true rand. something that i happen to share with paul ryan. although he seem to take it to a whole other level. what i got from the novels was don't compromise your integrity on things that matter. fight for them. but i also had a healthy understanding these these were noveling. representations of a pure version of a philosophy, of the

real world? not so much. i'm not sure that paul ryan quite figured out that piece. t here's an example, the hero blows up a public housing development because it falls short of its standards. i took it as a metaphor for being true to one's vision. not as an encouragement to blow something up. judging by the actions of paul ryan and his leagues in threatening the country with fiscal calamity, it seems to me that paul ryan maybe taking the met too seriously. the ryan budget also seems to literally scrum from the pages of a rand novel. it's more manifesto than an actual working budget. how else can you explain the fact that by 2050, there's literally no money for anything. no food safety, no education, no s.e.c., epa or that it would cut

mitt romney's taxes to almost zero while raising taxes on the poor. even some of his fans in hometown of janesville seem to find ryan to be a bit out of touch. in a recent profile, the head of a pro business economic development group said paul has been as helpful as he can be, but as you know, he also has a philosophical disconnect with the idea of earmarks. a philosophical disconnect. that sounds about right to me. his policies even seemed worse from his own life experience. when he was 16, his father tragically died and ryan received social security survivor's benefits that he saved up to go to college. i'm glad he had that help and used it. you have to wonder given his policies, if the next 16-year-old kid in that

situation would have the same chance and for all the talk of his leadership, he manageded to pass only two bills during his 13 years in the house. one of them to name a post office. now paul ryan's been ripped from the comfort of the house floor where we have a pretty high tolerance for impact cal ideas that go nowhere, to running on a presidential ticket where people have workable ideas. ryan has actually said what's unique about what's happening today in government is that it's as if we're living in a rand novel right now. not so much. over the next 81 days, we'll find out if ryan can advocate a few practical solutions. for those of you not quite into rand, rand was a -- the fountain head in 1943.

her views have greatly -- the movement and yes, ian rand was a woman. >> actually, you might find this confession hard to believe, but i am not a fan. i've had a problem with her disdain for the role of the the fami family and religion. me, the conservative athiest, not a fan. but it's interesting. i've never really heard someone talk about paul ryan as anything other but a pragmatist, so to hear you apply these philosophies is really interesting. >> even you said his budget was more working document than a think piece. that will have to do it for today and it is all yours. >> thanks so much, guys and good afternoon. i'm in for