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room. welcome home, look you're on tv. it is really cool to have you guys here and it is the best new thing in our world today. that does it for us tonight. now it's time for friday night election edition of "the last >> just 18 days. >> three days until the third and final presidential debate. >> backtracking, side stepping. >> every time he opened his mouth on foreign policy, he does make a misstep. >> so much to redistribute. >> we're not in a position to start to call who has the most definite edge here. >> maybe many days after the polls close. >> remove funding for planned parenthood. >> if you really want to make a
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reproductive rights, that's your choice. >> you don't want someone who needs to ask for binders of women. >> women are not binders. i just got shelved like a binder. >> he's forgetting what his own positions are. >> i think it's called romnesia. >> romnesia. >> if you say you'll protect a woman's right to choose. >> i will preserve and protect a woman's right to choose, he'll be delighted to sign that bill. >> man, you definitely got romnesia. want to give a tax cut to the top 1%. >> i don't know anything about giving tax cuts to rich folks. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. >> you probably got romnesia. here's the good news. obama care covers preexisting conditions!
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>> with just 18 days until the election, president obama got some important endorsements today and mitt romney got an ailment that dr. obama diagnosed as romnesia. >> he's forgetting what his own positions are. and he's betting that you will too. i mean, he's changing up so much and backtracking and sidestepping. we've got -- we've got to name this condition that he's going through. i think, i think it's called romnesia. if you say you'll protect a woman's right to choose but you stand up in a primary debate and said that you would be delighted to sign a law out lawing that right to choose in all cases, man, you definitely got romnesia. and if you come down with a case of romnesia, and you can't seem
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to remember the policies that are still on your website, or the promises that you've made over the six years you've been running for president, here's the good news. obama care covers preexisting conditions. >> after dr. obama listed the symptoms of romnesia in virginia today, dr. biden warned a florida audience about just how contagious romnesia can be. >> because it's romnesia. boy, i'll tell you what. i hope you all don't get romnesia. it's contagious. because all of a sudden, paul ryan, the budget hawk, the guy who introduced a whole budget plan that actually already passed, it already passed the house of representatives. all of a sudden he doesn't remember it.
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he doesn't remember it. ryan is saying his budget doesn't decimate medicare and medicaid and advice rate education. it's a little like mitt romney standing in an unemployment line in florida and turning to the guy and saying look, i didn't outsource your job, i offshored it. >> the vice president was welcomed to florida today by this editorial. obama has been tested by harsh circumstance and proven himself worthy for a second term for president of the united states. the tampa bay times recommends barack obama. "the denver post" editorial board writes today mitt romney's comments on the 47% were a telling insight into his views and a low point of the campaign. obama on the other hand has shown throughout his term that he is a steady leader who keeps the interests of a broad array of americans in mind. we urge colorado answer to re-elect him to a second term.
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and in utah today, through a pair of presidential debates, romney's domestic agenda remains be rest of detail and worthy of mistrust. therefore our endorsement must go to the incumbent, a competent leader who, against tough odds has guided the country through catastrophe set a course that while rocky is pointing toward a brighter day. obama has a 66.9 chance of winning and president obama will win 287 elect oral college votes and mitt romney will within 251. krystal ball, they take the convention to tampa, the local endorsement endorses obama. that very same newspaper comes
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out and says president obama should be re-elected. and then go to utah. you would presume a stronghold area for mitt romney. surely he's going to carry the state. but there, big local paper says no, president obama has earned re-election. what do newspaper endorsements mean in a 121st century campaign? >> it would be easy to dismiss them to say they don't amount a whole lot, there's so much media out there, but i actually think for a lot of undecided voters, who you might call low information voters, their local paper is still a go-to source for what's going on. it's a trusted source, it's reporters they know, it's editors that they know. so it can mean something in a swing state to those voters who are kind of on the fence. i think it can make a dense. >> ari, 18 days to go and the president is beginning to make his closing arguments. let's listen to what he was saying today in virginia, that is something of a summation of his case.
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>> in 18 days you can let them turn the clock back 50 years for immigrants and gays and women or we can stand up and say we are a country in which everybody has a place. a country where no matter where you are, no matter what you look like, no matter where you come from, black, white, hispanic, asian, native american, young, old, gay, straight, abled, disabled, we have a place for everybody. everybody has has chance to make it if you try. if you're willing to stand with me and make some phone calls with me get your friends to vote for me, we will win fairfax county again. we'll win virginia again. >> that's the man we first saw in boston during john kerry's convention and the man who ran for president last time. >> it's a strong closing argument. it's justice and jobs.
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and there are areas where they've linked those really strongly like on pay equity for women. there are areas where you have to think about it a little more and the president has been explaining and really embracing obama care as something that can be good for jobs and good for your pocketbook. and then the negative side of it is one of those editorials was called too many mitts and this idea of romnesia that you can't figure out where romney stands because he can't figure out where he stands and joe biden says it's contagious. the next question is it an ftd, a fox-transmitted disease. because if it is. >> i think it may be. >> because if it is, because fox was attacking romney back when he was for regulated assault weapons, now they're supporting his claim that he's actually against that. they were attacking him when he was pro choice, and now they're supporting him saying he's
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pro-life. but you know what, in ohio and around the country, people are just relying on fox news. they are reading their local paper, hearing this message and when your local paper says there's too many mitts and joe biden says he can't remember where he is and the president says it and you watch a debate where mitt romney is running from his positions on abortion and can't figure out what his position is on libya, i think all that adds up to a strong closing argument. >> they came up and they said you're laid off, everybody, as of right now. >> what was i going to do for my children? are they going to have a home? >> without president obama's rescue, ohio would have collapsed. >> that's exactly what i said. the headline what i said, let detroit go bankrupt. >> and for him to just say let them fail. >> how you can say something like that is just beyond me. >> krystal, that looks like something that will work in ohio. >> that's pretty devastating.
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ohio has been an outlier for the president. and this is the essence of the reason why. on the most important economic decision facing ohio, mitt romney got it dead wrong in a very obvious way that everyone can understand. so i think, underscoring that as much as possible between now and election day is critical and it's devastating. >> and ari, on the romnesia thing, doesn't it also sound like, it's not just forgetful and all of that, there's a kind of out-of-touch element to it. >> that's exactly right. it's what bill clinton said. they think you're stupid. they think they can run through six different positions and then say, no, i'm not the one. you're the one that wanted to go bankrupt and that's going to work. in this environment it doesn't work because people care about what's happening to this country. >> can i say how satisfying that democrats come up with such a great word. finally we have such a beautiful
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crystallization of exactly who mitt romney is. >> i think we'll all remember where we were this morning when we first saw it on twitter. oh, yeah. who wrote that? i mean, someone in the campaign is getting a little prize for writing that. >> absolutely. >> and so, going into next week's debate, i think one of the challenges we're going to talk about on the next segment, but foreign policy is not probably where this debate, this campaign is going to be won. they're going to have to find some ways to trick that debate into domestic issues, aren't they? >> there are a lot of ways that you can do it. things like climate change and energy certainly have internation and domestic implications. but i do think in terms of the impact of these debates, there's a little bit of drama gone because we've had them both have strong performances. it's 90 minutes of foreign policy and if you look at the
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town hall format and what questions voters wanted to ask, there was only one foreign policy question. i think both candidates to the extent they can cheat back to domestic policy will probably do so. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. coming up, the most important news in the world. malala is back on her feet. she is standing with help now and is writing again after being shot in the head by pakistan taliban. the "new york times" reporter who knows her well will join me. the woman who is trying to save the world from bat crap crazy congressman joe walsh, democratic congressional candidate and war veteran tammy joins me. and in the rewrite tonight. lingerie. the kind that mitt romney hates the most. chinese lingerie.
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you know mitt romney is going to talk tough about china in monday night's debate. that's in the rewrite tonight. and karen finney and richard wolf will join me next. and congressional candidate tammy duck worth joins me when her opponent continues to evolve his opinion on abortion to save the life of the mother. he was opposed to it yesterday and not quite so opposed to it today. i don't spend money
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so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. >> i do want to ask you this. i'm putting together a scrapbook of the 2012 campaign. and i have these great pictures from the two debates, but i don't know which debate they're from. so if you could -- i have two pictures. there's one picture, i don't know if you can get that. and then there's the other picture and i'm wondering, could you tell me which -- i don't know if i have the debates, do you know which debate was which? >> cute. >> as the final presidential debate approaches monday night, last night at the dinner here in new york, mitt romney said this.
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>> and even though we're enjoying ourselves tonight, we're both thinking ahead of our final debate on monday. i'm hoping that governor romney and i will have the chance to answer questions that is on the mind of millions of americans watching at home. is this happening again? why aren't they putting on "the voice"? president obama did tip his hand last night on one of the debate points he has ready for monday night. >> monday's debate is a little different because the topic is foreign policy. spoiler alert. we got bin laden. of course, world affairs of a challenge for every candidate. after some of you guys remember. after my foreign trip in 2008, i was attacked as a celebrity because i was so popular with our alleys overseas.
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and i have to say i'm impressed with how well governor romney has avoided that problem. joining me now richard wolf and karen finney. richard, why am i suspecting that the candidates are spending their weekend trying to figure out how to steer this back to domestic policy whenever they can? >> because you've seen this stuff before. remember the foreign policy debate in 2008 turned out to be about the world economy which turned out to be about the american economy and they'll do some of that again. trade is an obvious place you can do that. but don't under estimate the animosity between the two people and how much they want to relitigate every foreign change policy we saw in the last two, including mitt romney going back to libya and having at it all over again, only this time trying to do a clean-up job. i think they will want to engage because they really dislike each other and mitt romney has got some finishing too do.
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>> rush limbaugh believes that president obama is going to win monday night's debate. >> just get together with bob schieffer before the debate like he did candy crowley, when this comes up, you just go there. and we'll handle it. we will handle it that way. folks, i, know i'm not alleging anything. i find, i watch the debate again and romney goes on, mitt romney we have this you called it a terrorist attack the day after? and obama, proceed. so romney is we have it on record the president of the united states says, and then obama points and says to candy
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crowley get the transcript. and she just happens to have it. so a little pow wow, you never know. >> i show you the ravings of rush limbaugh here to save you the time to listen to all three hours of it every day yourself. >> oh, thank you. >> but also because he does have a huge republican audience and this does explain what is the real belief among a lot of republicans about exactly how this works. they have a crazy view of what's possible monday night. >> they absolutely do. and what they don't like is that what really happened was romney tried to roll up on the president with bad facts and the president checked him on it. they didn't like that, so now they've come up with an alternate theory of reality and i'm sure they'll come up with some alternate theory of reality for monday's debate as well. i think it will be a mistake for president obama to spend too much time relitigating libya. because there are a number of
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studies that have shown, polls semi-recently that have shown the majority of americans are tired of war. they don't want more troops in afghanistan. we don't want more troops. they're wary of sending troops to syria, wary of troops in iran. so i think it's important for the president to press romney the n. in the way you saw biden press ryan. that is a death knell for romney. the americans don't want it. i think it's another way for obama to talk about how he has tried to change the nature of american foreign policy to be about multilateralism and not about cowboy diplomacy. >> let's look at president obama in the 2008 debate finding a way to take the foreign debate back to domestic policy. >> we are at a defining moment in our history. our nation is involved in two wars. and we are going through the worst financial crisis since the great depression.
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and although we've heard a lot about wall street, those of you on main street, i think have been struggling for a while. and you recognize that this could have an impact on all sectors of the economy. >> richard, surely we will see that from both of them. >> we will. and there is a legitimate piece of the international policy debate that deals with the american economy. wall street triggered this financial collapse and it's been sustained by europe. but there are pieces of this international debate, it's not really about trade. it's the world financial architecture. i don't think they're going to go there. bringing it back though, look. mitt romney's classic debating position. we've seen it two times already is not to offer up solution and to say i don't have to do anything. i just have to critique you. you're the president. so when people ask him what would you do about this or that problem.
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simpson bowles. he says i don't need to give you an answer. it's a bit like hearing his wife saying we don't need to give you those tax returns. you have all you're going to get. >> i was going to say, don't forget there is another vulnerability for governor romney and that is when we talk about trading and the global economy, president obama has a wonderful argument too make about who was it that was betting against the american economy, who was it part of shipping jobs overseas, putting money in foreign bank accounts, trying to obfuscate their responsibility to the united states and reduce their tax burden. so there are other things that are right for the president. >> let's take another look at the 2008 foreign policy debate and how it managed to stay on the economy. >>. >> there are folks out there who have been struggling before this crisis took place and that's why
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it's so important as we saw the short term problem that we look at some of the underlying issues that have led for wages and incomes for ordinary americans to go down, the health care system that is broken, energy policies that are not working. because ten days ago john said that the fundamentals in the economies -- say it directly to him. >> the john, ten days ago you said -- >> were you afraid i couldn't hear him? >> those were the days when jim lehrer intervened in the debate. this is where you've got a sweet spot for the president. china is obviously a piece of the international puzzle here. mitt romney is going to bring it up. that's where the president brings up our old friend bain. it's personal investments, it's offshoring. when he's talking about the middle class suffering over the years, you cannot deal with that without talking about bain and
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its approach to outsourcing and shipping companies overseas. whole factories overseas. that's where the pivot is going to come. don't get me wrong. libya is just a piece of it. what is mitt romney's position on afghanistan. why did he say that leaving iraq was a disaster. i mean, there are really substantive differences that both of these candidates need to go through in this debate. >> richard wolf and karen finney, thank you both for joining me tonight. coming up, "the west wing" returns to "the last word" tonight with lingerie. i will use chinese bras to show mitt romney just how tough it is to get tough on china trade. that's in tonight's rewrite.
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tonight, malala lives. and today she's been able to stand again for the first time with some help and she is writing again. in a "the last word" exclusive,
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shot in the head on her school bus by the taliban pakistan ten days ago. doctors say malala wanted this picture released. >> it's clear that she's not out of the woods yet. having said that, she's doing very well. in fact she was standing with some help for the first time this morning. when i went in to see her. she's communicating very freely. she's writing. she's keen that i share the detail and keen that i thank people for their support and their interests. she's obviously aware the amount of support this has generated around the world. >> malala will also need major reconstructive surgery and rehab. tonight, the man accused of shooting malala and two of her
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school mates has not yet been apprehended but pakistani security forces have detained several of his relatives. the pakistani taliban still vows to kill the 15-year-old who revealed the dangers pakistan girls face in this 2009 documentary. >> in the world, the girls are going to their schools freely and there is no fear. but here when you go to our school, we are very afraid of taliban. they will kill us. he can do anything. >> joining me now for an exclusive interview is the man who created that documentary. adam b. ellick. how did you discover malala to follow her and document what she was doing? >> well, i had read a three-paragraph description in a local paper that said in two
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weeks the taliban are going to close all schools for girls. the so i called a pakistani journalist who had reported in the region and i asked him how many girls does this affect and he said 50,000 school girls will be losing their education in a few weeks so i asked him to connect me to an educational activist in swat and a few days later in a neutral city because swat was so dangerous at the time. at the time malala's father showed up and there was an 11 year old girl with him at the time and she didn't speak with him for the first maybe 30 minutes or so and finally i said who's this and what do you have to say and she spoke in her local language and only about 10 minutes later did she reveal she spoke english. she was once a shy girl and now she's quite fiery as you see. >> how old was she when you made your documentary? >> i believe when we started she was tenor 11 and now she's 15. it was january 2009.
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>> and she seems to this point made by the hospital, she actually wants that picture of her released. she seems to understand the power of worldwide media, that this will give encouragement to all of us who want to see her survive and want her cause to prevail. >> yeah. it's a great point. when i heard that, that's the malala i know and i can assure you of that. there were many times when we were filming when it was extremely dangerous. i mean malala described the days i was there were the worst days in swat. and there were many times when her father asked me to put away the camera because he was nervous. she was very quiet but she would give me the look don't worry you can bring it out again and she was always giving me these approving glances of you can film anything. there are no limits.
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always open and always keen to tell her story. >> the taliban has once again issued the threat on her life if they get another chance and they say it has nothing to do with the education part of her cause. they say it's simply because she's a traitor. that that is why they want to kill her. >> yeah. the taliban released a seven-page statement earlier this week. and they listed several reasons for why they issued this assassination attempt. i think one thing to extract from this statement is that they're on the defensive. i mean, they rarely release a statement and certainly almost never seven pages. and in urdu. normally they release statements in the tribal areas. so it shows they're clearly backed up to the edge and they're on the defensive and as you see from the video this week in pakistan, the country has come out in widespread unanimous
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support in favor of malala and that's something we didn't see when politicians, three prominent politicians were assassinated in pakistan last year. there was more of a divided reaction. >> adam, the taliban is also threatening to kill pakistani journalists who cover this story. how dangerous was it for you to be doing what you did with malala? >> well, those were really dangerous times. and the only reason that i was able to realize this film, well, several reasons. one of course is the courage of malala and her father. but i worked very closely with two incredibly courageous pakistani journalists who took tremendous risks to go into areas that had a curfew at night and where shelling was going on and i give the credit to them. because those guys, you know, they live there. that's their home and they're putting their life on the line every day telling these kinds of stories. i was just there for a year or so. >> before we go, people keep
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asking how they might be able to help malala. >> great question. there are several initiatives going on. one of the good ones, one of the ones that i think is doing something on a more society al level, is education envoy.org. he's going to pakistan next week to lobby the president of pakistan to get every girl in pakistan an education. so it's an e-mail petition in which people can sign to support that they want all girls in pakistan to go to school. keep in mind that in the area where malala is from, only half of the girls are educated officially enrolled in school. >> adam ellick of "the new york times." thanks for joining us tonight. >> thank you for caring. in illinois, the war over
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>> you'll know about it tomorrow when we start burning bras in front of the white house. >> i'll be right back. >> i wrote that episode of "the west wing" in 2004 when chinese bras were surging into the american market. that competition does not come from american lingerie manufacturers. it comes from other asian bra manufacturers. it turns out getting tough with china and preserving the american market for american manufacturers is not as easy as simpletons like donald trump and mitt romney think it is. at the debate on monday night, i guarantee uh-uh will hear mitt romney make this empty promise once again. >> on day one, i will label china a currency manipulator.
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>> and i guarantee you that mitt romney would never do that if elected president. it is traditional for candidates running for president, who are not already president, to demagog about international trade. both hillary clinton and barack obama said when they were running against each other as president that they would reopen nafta. do you remember the day president obama announced he would not reopen nafta? no, you don't. because it was a buried news story in the back of the business section in the "new york times" about 90 days into the obama presidency. in the white house there is simply a presidential position on trade and the presidential position is flawlessly consistent and it is simply that the president must first do no harm.
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which means the president must not take any action that can provoke a trade war. and presidents never do take such action. no matter what they have promised on the campaign trail. presidents publicly complain about china on trade issues then they privately negotiate with china on trade. they have some wins with china and this have some losses with china on trade. but taking punitive action with china or any other country other than cuba is almost always more costly to the united states than it is to china or that other country. in 2009, the obama administration imposed tariffs on tires imported from china and last month the administration very quietly left that tariff expire. after one study says that that tariff preserved maybe about 1200 american jobs at a cost of $1.1 billion.
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that would be $900,000 per job. now, those numbers could be overstated. even significantly overstated. but what's absolutely true is that any tariff we put on any product in this country is paid not by the country that produces the product. it is paid by american consumers when they purchase that product. tariffs are simply sales taxes on american consumers and that's why tariffs are almost always self-defeating. so if a president wants to get tough with china and slap some heavy tariffs on chinese products, the question for that president is very simple. mr. president, tell us exactly what products you want to make much more expensive for american consumers. and presidents look at that menu of choice and wisely choose none
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of the above. mitt romney likes to pretend that he's the only candidate who cares about chinese currency manipulation. american presidents have been pressuring the chinese on their currency manipulation for decades now. and no president has been more successful in dealing with chinese currency than president obama. during president obama's term, the value of chinese currency has actually increased 11%. and that's what we want it to do. we want it to increase. because chinese goods are cheap. not just because they're their layer or prices are lower, but because china has always manipulated its currency to have a lower value so that chinese goods are lower priced in the world market. that's how they do it. what we really want china to do is to allow its currency to float in the international currency market. we want the value of the chinese currency to be determined by the
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international market. but china refuses to do that because they know that would make their goods much more expensive. so american presidents, publicly and privately, push and push and the most important pushes are all done privately. they push the chinese on their currency. for most of president bush's eight years, the value of the chinese currency stayed absolutely flat. the bush administration couldn't push the chinese successfully on currency manipulation at all. in just three and a half years of the obama administration, the chinese currency has increased 11%. president obama has gotten a little help from his friends on this one. democratic senator chuck schumer pushed a bill, but really it just required the secretary of the treasury to file a bunch of
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reports, analyzing chinese currency. it never even came to a vote in the house of representatives. but it was a very good way of showing the chinese how -- which is part of the game of playing tough with china. china does actually respond to the public pressure that senator schumer brings to the game and the public and private pressure that the obama administration brings to the game. so on monday night when you hear mitt romney once again say this. >> on day one i will label china a currency manipulator. >> don't expect the moderator to fact check him on that one, but you can tell everyone in your living room that mitt romney is lying once again.
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>> i was marching in a parade sunday, two days before the democratic convention, when tammy duckworth was on a stage down in charlotte picking out a dress for her speech tuesday night. >> and yes, i do sometimes look at the clothes that i wear. but for most of my adult life i. >> that was the scene. last night the two candidates competing for the eighth congressional seats. here's what joe walsh.
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>> i'm pro-life without exception. when we talk about exceptions we talk about rape -- >> joe washington added this. >> let me briefly say there's no such exception. with modern technology and science, you can't find one instance. this is an issue that opponents of life throw out there to make us look unreasonable. there's no such exception as life of the mother. and as far as health of the mother. same thing. with advances in science and technology -- health of the mother has been, has become a tool for abortions any time under any reason.
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>> you mean to say it's never medically necessary to do an abortion to save the life of the mother. >> absolutely. >> and this afternoon, medical expert joe walsh said this. >> when i say i'm pro-life, i mean that i'm pro-life for the mother and i'm pro-life for the unborn child. while i do not support abortion, i do of course support medical procedures for women during their pregnancies that might result in the loss of an unborn child. >> joining me now an exclusive interview lieutenant colonel tammy duckworth. >> the rest of that clip actually this afternoon, he said that ectopic pregnancies were so rare that they never happened and because of that he stands by his position of pro life without exception. now, never mind that women can need abortions because they're
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undergoing chemotherapy due to cancer, preeclampsia, so many reasons. i think he's taking biology lessons from todd akin on this. >> the american college of ob/gyn s respond to this. i'm stunned by watching this. as you come down to the wire in campaigns, i would actually expect candidates to get more careful. this guy just seems capable of saying anything at any time. >> well, you know, i'm saddened but not surprised. because this is who he is. he believes in these extreme positions and he's backed by extreme people. there's a super pac that has vowed to flood me under a sea of negative ads just to get elected. they don't care that he's out of touch with the district. this is who this guy is. whether it's his comments, it's
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not acceptable. >> what was the point he was trying to make about you at the democratic convention in which he managed to get himself booed at your debate? >> well, he's a very sexist kind of a guy. he's called me dear, he has offered to hold my hand and he was trying to say that i'm more concerned about picking out the outfits that i'm going to wear rather than concentrating on the issues in the district. i've worn one color most of my adult live it's called camouflage. back off. i don't scare easily. >> how did it play in the district that he failed to pay child support for so many years. >> people hate that he did not pay child support. his congressional salary is still being garnished. the only reason he's paying child support is because he's got a job as a congressman that his ex-wife can have garnished.