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i never lost consciousness and i hollered for my little dog and he didn't answer or didn't come so i know he's in here somewhere. >> the dog. >> the dog. >> hi, puppy! >> oh! oh! oh! bless your little bitty heart! and help me. help me. i thought god just answered one prayer to let me be okay and he answered both of them. >> a remarkable story. good morning, it's wednesday, may 22nd. thank you so much for being with us. we are taking a live look at moore, oklahoma, right now. a remarkable story. but a tragedy that could have been so much worse. we have a lot to talk about today. you know, the death toll is not actually as high as it was first feared and the headlines of the "usa today" says everything this morning, which is a question how

could so many have survived? we were out there. of course, the devastation unrivaled with anything i've of seen in a tornado but the death toll so much lower. we have learned a lot about the brave actions of ordinary people out in oklahoma who, at the end of the day, the answer to this question is the brave action of so many people from oklahoma. less than half the number was announced after the twister touched down. 24 dead. we believe the number we were told by the medical authorities the numbers would double and go up to 90 or a hundred. of those 24 dead, nine were children. there are now 237 injuries that have been reported. now, jenay hornsby was 9 years old and up with of the students who died tragically in moore, elementary.

she is one of the many who sheltered in the hallways and closets and bathrooms when the terrible storm hit. as nbc's kate snow reports without the actions of so many brave teachers in that school, the death toll would have been so much worse. >> reporter: inside the walls of the plaza towers element school hundreds of students were counting down the number of of days to last week of class but in minutes it went from this to win. parents of other students tell nbc news children were in that auditorium. >> we have seen it from the air. this is it. right here behind me as i step out of the way and let joe zoom in, this is the front of plaza towers elementary school. this school is basically gone. >> reporter: in the hours after the tornado, dramatic images junk children were rescued and with darkness the search for survivors continued. some children had escaped from harm. their parents had picked them up

just before the school went on lock down on monday but the majority stayed inside as they practiced in drills many times. math teacher rhonda was helping her students with a game. damien klein is a fourth grader. >> she told us to get our math book and bag. >> why did she tell you to get a math book or bag? >> so we could put it over our head. >> reporter: a fifth grade teacher saw the funnel cloud approaches and yelled for everyone to get into bathrooms and closet. >> you have to get them in there. i said i'll stay outside. she said you're getting in there too. >> reporter: she was crouched over four children and did what teachers do. >> i love you, ms. crosswhite. please don't let me die. i said we are not dying! we are not dying today! quit saying that. i did the teacher thing we are

are probably not supposed to do and i prayed outloud. >> what did you say? >> reporter: i said, "please don't take these kids today." >> reporter: when it was quiet again she sent a kid up the bathroom wall to look out. >> he got up there and he looked down at me and he said, "there is nothing left." >> reporter: damien was in the same bathroom crouched under a sink. >> reporter: how loud was it? >> it was pretty loud. >> reporter: were you scared? >> there were a bunch of kids screaming. >> reporter: his mom spent an anxious hour wondering if her little boy was alive and wonder why the school didn't have a better shelter plan. >> i think every school in oklahoma should have an underground shelter. it shouldn't take a tornado this size and this many kids hurt, missing, and lost their lives to realize that they need underground shelters. >> that is really the question

that so many people are asking now. let's go to chris jansing who is in oklahoma. chris, so many questions about how that school had prepared for a tornado like this. some second-guessing but the one thing nobody seems to be second-guessing about is whether this school should have had a safe room or an underground shelter. why didn't it? and did the other schools across the area have these safe rooms? >> reporter: yeah, it's an important question. about a hundred of them do but it's a cost factor, joe. it's 1.4 million on average to build one of these safe houses in a school. so a small percentage of them actually do have them. you know, we see it in the houses that are behind me. this particular home that i'm standing in front of is only one of 10% of homes in moore in spite of it being in tornado alley that have them because they cost in an average home $8,000 to $10,000 and if you get into a lottery, 16,000 did recently and only 500 got help,

that is $2,000 so it's still a pretty big chunk. it's interesting to see what happens going forward. there have been legislation in places like joplin which is having its two-year anniversary of the storm that killed 160 people today, joe. but even after what happened there, only about half of the houses that are be rebuilt have these safe houses. it's money and i should also say it's culture. people often say they don't want the ferguson telling them what they have to do, how they have to spend their money and so when some of these communities have looked at the idea of legislating it, they have come up with no. right now, joe, we don't know what is going happen. >> chris, thank you so much. there is that culture as chris was saying. i talked to a gentleman yesterday who had said that he had kept telling his wife that they should build a shelter and

he said she was an oklahoma native. she said, we don't need that. it reminds me of so many people in northwest florida and also people from florida who grow up with hurricanes and you hear one hurricane warning after another and you never think it's going to hit you. and when it does, it changes attitudes. we will see what happens. there is no doubt people in oklahoma should know when they send their children to school that if these tornadoes come that there is a safe room to go to or a shelter to go to and i think that is going to happen. now, yesterday, when mika and i were out there, we get an opportunity to talk to mark ellard. he lived in his home in moore for 23 years. and that is where he weathered this tornado as it tore through the community. we actually met him as we went out in the middle of the night. he was sleeping in his tent outside of his home that was just torn to shreds and he said he want to stay there to make sure that nobody came and rummaged through his property.

but he agreed to talk to mika and, today, his home is barely standing but this is what happened. >> reporter: you took shelter inside this house. >> uh-huh. >> reporter: i don't know where that is possible. can you explain to me how you made it through? everything is crushed. >> with the grace of god saw me through. there was a closet in my bedroom and my dog and i got into it and we just laid down and everything went around us. >> reporter: did you think you were going to make it? >> i thought i was going to die there for a little while, for a few minutes, i wasn't sure. >> reporter: what do you think you're going to do now? >> oh, get me a new house. >> reporter: i think it might be

time. >> yeah. i don't know it will be here or somewhere else. got to weigh all of our options. >> reporter: this town is gone. >> i haven't been outside of my yard other than a few minutes ago when we went over there, so i don't know what is what. i haven't seen tv or listened to the radio since this happened. >> reporter: i wish you the best of luck. >> thank you. >> reporter: our prayers are with you and all of your neighbors. >> you know, we walked yesterday across moore, oklahoma, and were absolutely stunned and we kept saying and we just -- somebody on the set just said it looks like an atomic bomb went off. i actually saw a story yesterday that said the power of this storm, when it hit, dwarfed the size of the atomic bomb that hit hiroshima. you look in the background. it just ravaged these areas. again, i've been through a lot of hurricanes in my life and i've reported on quite a few

tornadoes and reported on katrina every day for a month and a half and the widespread devastation seen here, i've only seen rivaled by what happened after katrina, especially along mississippi's gulf coast in terms of just sheer force of nature coming in and completely wiping out a town. it was like a nuclear bomb went off. brian shactman is still in moore, oklahoma, this morning. we are looking at pictures this morning that -- again, me being there yesterday where you are, and looking at these pictures today, i still, being there, seeing it firsthand, am having a hard time wrapping my arms around this. the totality of the storm and the wig shock here, brian, the "usa today" headline says it, it's a question that i have and i know you and so many other people have, how could so many

people have survived in a town where so many people went through what mark ellard went through yesterday? tell us the scene. set the scene this morning. >> first of all, you jumed it uu -- summed it up extremely well. this is their lives and not a tv set for them. i want to come over here a second. i have to be careful where i walk. i just want to sum up really this whole space right here sums up everything. you have wires. an extremely safety issue here. you literally have the inside of people's homes, you have a snowman teddy bear, a christmas wreath here. and even though i have no idea who these people are, you can't help but get a little bit emotional about what you see because as you said, joe, this is not about something being blown over. it's about an obliteration of what peeped had. the thing i want to point out as

i come back out. the thing for the country to look at really when i talk about this is that there is two big takeaways? terms of themes. this week, we will put bodies in the ground. people died so people say it's good news that the death toll is less, but still children who were killed and you know how it is when children die, this is why whether it's the boston marathon or newtown and why that strikes such a chord, why such an emotional thing. in the cynicism of today, americans still care about each other, joe, and that is evident where every you where go here. the second thing is, we talked with mika and yourself are teachers. we track great teachers in this country and what do we need to get education better? i tell you a lot of amazing teachers and i don't know what they do academically but to hear them speech and beyond teaching the kids their abcs and my wife

is an educator and i come from a family of it, that enough is to make you feel better about this country from a disaster like this. >> no doubt about it, brian. no doubt about it. you're exactly right. the teachers, once again, as they did in newtown, they did it here again, as they do so many times when tragedy hits a school these teachers stepped up and did heroic things and did it without thinking twice and they threw their bodies over children to save their lives and just unbelievable. thank you so much. i greatly appreciate your reporting out there and we will get back to you. we look at these pictures, though. it's so important to remember, because we always -- we talk talk about fatalities and how much it's going to cost to rebuild this area. brian was in front of that home.

it's so important to remember when people come back to their homes, they have lost everything and not sitting there thinking about first and foremost the insurance money or how much money they are going to lose. they are thinking about the wedding pictures they are not never going to get back and they are never going to find. the videos of their child's birth, of seeing their children play t-ball the first time or go to their first dance or their high school prom and relics from their mom and dad not being with them. when you look at just one house that brian shactman is standing in front of or mika or i stooned in front of yesterday, those stories are retold thousands and thousands of time. there's no insurance agency.

there is no insurance company. no one can replace those items and why this is such a tragedy. yesterday, jesse rodriguez, our senior producer, was actually out at a press gaggle that had the governor and several congressmen and senators and senator tom coburn was there. a good friend of mine. he suggested early on any spending on disaster relief should be offset by spending cuts somewhere else in the federal government. we asked senator coburn yesterday if that was still his position and let's take a listen. >> look. 11.8 billion in fema and not a legitimate question and i was asked that question yesterday before we even knew how many people had died so it's inappropriate. the fact is a lot of waste in the federal government and rather than borrow the money from the people we ought to help and it's not a problem and we don't have to do an emergency bill for this.

we have plenty of money set aside to take care of this. >> it's going to be fascinating as you look at the pictures of oklahoma and look at the pictures of the people that tom coburn represent. it's going to be fascinating to see what happens as this bill goes forward. obviously, a lot of hurt feelings after sandy. there were, of course, a lot of congressmen, senators across the country that did not support the sandy bill, said it was -- i suspect you're going to see tom coburn at the front of the shaping of this relief bill. i think probably for the first time in some time you'll have a relief bill that is narrowly focused on actually helping the people. there won't be the side its that you see in a lot of other bills but no doubt this is a question, tom, wasn't really happy to get it yesterday. i certainly understand that. but it's a question that is going to be asked time and time again and it's certainly a question that people like peter king and members of the new york delegation and new jersey and

connecticut delegation and affected by hurricane sandy a question they will be asking. i think at the end of the day, everybody is going to support this relief bill but we will see. let's go to thomas roberts. thomas, talk about the community response, not only do we have the heroic stories of people on the ground but also some very famous natives of moore coming back home trying to help. >> joe, i want to point out that jesse's interview yesterday with the congressional delegation along with the governor hpappend in front of the spot we were yesterday morning. you saw the bathtub and the toilet there. that bathtub next to that spot is where a young family survived crouched down right there. >> oh, my gosh. >> jesse got that interview. the family is all okay and we walked away unscathed and the bathtub, you recall, survived.

these are the kind of stories that have emerged and the stories of heroism and people want to do something and give back. we have seen all along southwest ft. fro fort that has been filled and the different parking lots where they have taken in donation. i saw ladies there folding donated clothes there. down telephone road the street to our right by the medical center further down there at the home depot that also has been cordoned off and using that site for volunteers to come in and make food for first responders. we had so many people coming by yesterday offering us food, offering us water. telling us where they were and where they were making food so they could help people out. as people came back yesterday, the weather got so much nicer in the afternoon. but as we point out, the community coming together and we have so many people showing up

with support like kevin durant. he is the oklahoma city thunder basketball star who has donated a million dollars. people here who are working on the crew who are from ok city say he is just as talented as lebron james so we will see what people say about that. >> yes, they do. >> they think he is as talented as lebron. tobey keith was here last year. he is a local and his sister lives beyond the medical center. he said just beyond where the crow flies he said. he wanted to see this firsthand and bring a message of hope to the people of moore. >> they will bounce back. you come back here a year from now, the place be are rocking and it's been devastated by this before and the spirit is emotional. why i never moved to l.a. or nashville. i did my career from here for 20 years. >> he pointed out his son-in-law who lives in the area was one of

the first responders and a volunteer who showed up over at the plaza tower elementary school to help out. he stepped on nail and got shocked. and he is okay. tobey keith saying, that is my son-in-law, he is just a knuckle head. that is the type of spirit have you here. everybody -- the community has really banded together. today is going to be another beautiful day so we expect to see a lot of people out coming back into the area to collect those mementos the pieces they are rebuild here. >> thomas, thank you. you would expect tobey keith to call his son-in-law after getting shocked a knuckle head. but you see those scenes out there and you see people walking through it and, unfortunately, i did yesterday. there is a danger of that, fallen lines, gas leaks.

for the first responds who are doing it, it can be very dangerous. but we will be back to thomas, chris, and brian. we are also going to be talking to congressman tom cole who is going to join us. he grew up in the town devastated by monday's tornado. also fema administrator craig fugate will be here and steve case will be around as well and helping lead a so-called virtual march for immigration reform. coming up next, so many political stories to talk about. we have abc news cokie roberts who is going to be joining the conversation and we will be talking about the irs and much more straight ahead. ♪ it's a brand new start.

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♪ welcome back to "morning joe." with us now abc news political commentator cokie roberts.

we also have "morning joe" economic analyst steve rattner and al hunt is joining the table in washington. cokie, yesterday, of course, we were talking about the hurricane. we were out in oklahoma. i guess it was friday. mark halpern handed me a story and it was this james rosen story. i looked at it and we immediately talked about it. i said, again, it's disoriented. >> it's mind boggling. >> so we find out 30 phone records monitored by the justice department. phone records inside the white house monitored by the justice department. and this is the most troubling for me. five numbers inside the fox news washington bureau which, of course, is the opposition. it would be one thing if you're monitoring msnbc numbers because that would be kind of like, okay, i wonder what party we are going to have together like tomorrow night. but when you -- i joke, of course. but you talk about the fox news bureau and what makes it so

damming for this white house. this is a justice department for me at least seems toout of control. >> it does. this is an attack on the american press big time and the fact they have gone after the a.p. records and now as you see the opposition records, it is possess not just -- i mean, it's in the pure, in the white house. monitoring this movements in the state department. >> what is this? >> and -- and there is talk of prosecuting the reporter not just the leaker. this administration, by the way, has prosecuted twice as many sources as all administrations in american history combined and there's still more to go. and this reporter being prosecuted for what? >> for what? >> apparently for receiving stolen information like he is a fence or something. and stolen property. >> this is daniel elsberg. >> basically, being prosecuted, if he is prosecuted, for doing

his job. >> for doing assist job and, at hunt, i bring in up daniel elsberg. i don't compare the two but what he is doing and what "the new york times" had to decide, what was it? '71? >> '71. >> "the new york times" '71 had to decide do we go with this? there is always a creative tension and you always have the white house calling, let's say "the new york times" saying, please don't run with this story right now. there is always that friction. >> he did that with the a.p. >> they did. >> the a.p. didn't run with it until after they were sure that it was fine. >> right. but five numbers inside fox news' washington bureau and numbers inside the white house. 30 phone numbers and add this on top of the a.p., how disturbing can this to you? >> let's stay with your analogy in about elsberg in 1971. the council for "the new york

times" in 1971 has written a book on the pentagon papers in which he says when it comes to the press, obama is no better than richard nixon. that is something my liberal friends hate to hear but it is true. this is awful. i agree with cokie totally. >> this is constitutionalized! >> they went after this guy under the espionage act too of 1918. in these two cases they did with jim risen of the "the new york times." i will repeat what coke i didn't says because this gets liberals upset. eric holder have gone after more reporters and leakers than john mitchell, ed meese and john ashcroft. >> steve rattner, you worked at "the times" and you grew up in this culture. there is always that friction the first amendment versus

national security concerns but supreme court decided this in 1971. here we have a constitutional scholar again. did he not read what the supreme court said about the pentagon papers? this is staggering to me. >> i understand that and i'm not going to disagree with any of you but looking at it from the administration's perspective and i'm not here to carry their water or advance their ball they are on record as basically saying we want to stop these leaks. if they were sitting here they would say we are going at this from the point of view of the leaker. that is who we are really after. yes, we go in and subpoena the phone records. >> that's what the nixon administration said in 1971. >> transparent anyone else in history and this is the absolutely antithesis of that. >> they don't necessarily go after their own. >> during the campaign, steve, hold on, they made sure that information got leaked out to the press, to make the president look stronger. he had the kill targets and he made the decisions himself. >> that is the other thing.

>> they didn't go after those things. >> i'll be the bill's advocate. things are deemed to be national security and leakers and things like that. in the a.p. story, my understanding they were going after their own leakers and what they were trying to do. they interviewed 550 people. they had the u.s. attorney of district of columbia. >> 550 people? >> taxpayer dollars. >> what is different in this case than different in the pentagon papers and what is different in this case that was different during vietnam and during in this case than the cold war? this has been going on for over 200 years. why are things different for barack obama than every other executive? co and the administration went to the a.p. saying it is national security sensitive. the a.p. held the story until the administration came back and said we are going to break the story. >> the great reporting by ron fournier where he used to work for the a.p. saying the a.p. is

sitting there holding the story and the white house says hold it another day or two because we want to put it our ourselves. >> the other part of this that is so appalling. which is that the -- this administration -- you know, it's not -- more credit to them -- goes around the press all the time. they have their own broadcasting network and they use social media to get out to unfiltered presidential propaganda to people all the time. and then -- and at the same time that media companies are in terrible financial straits and having to shut down investigative journalism way too much, then you have them going after investigative journalists at the same time? >> al, i want to go back to you and ask steve the same question. is this not more damming because they are going after fox news washington bureau? is this not more damming? because they are going after

what many people would consider the opposition whether you want to put loyal in front of that or not. that is more concerning. >> i think it might be as far as perceptions are concerned but the reality is they have been bad and indiscriminately bad. they have gone after others. i think this obsession with leaks. look. some of this stuff might be serious and one or two things are serious and we don't know the details. they always put out the word was this an incredibly terrible offensive leak. >> but in the middle of this investigation call in roger els? you're a great american, okay? we disagree. >> of course. >> but, roger, let me tell you what your guys -- >> happens all the time. >> -- we got a real problem and if he continues this we have to prosecute him. we don't want to do it. instead what the a.p. is saying is they basically want to scare all of our sources by throwing this dragnet out there. it happens all the time, right? you call up the head of the network and say we got to talk.

come in. >> stories are held -- i don't know. >> all the time. >> major stories and some never run at all. i just think this is -- this is -- and people say who is at fault here? it reflects the president. he has this obsession with leaks. i don't think he ordered this -- >> it's a culture, right? >> it does raise serious questions i think along with a number of other matters about the competency of the attorney general to continue to hold office. >> the attorney general is very tough and he appeared in congress this past week and took them on. he didn't take it and to a certain degree you got to love that because there is a lot of harassing witnesses by all congress of every stripe. but this is something that has unified democrats and republicans and msnbc and fox. >> deeply disturbing when those things start happening. thank you for being the loyal opposition in this block.

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bill karins is with us in new york to take a look at where the dangerous weather is heading next. bill, those lined of storms yesterday were violent and it was one after another after another. couldn't believe it. are things going to calm down out there? they have, joe, finally. looks like today a beautiful day there. sunny about 80 degrees or so. so as far as the cleanup and whatever else they are going to be doing out there on the scene today the weather will be cooperating. now our final details in on what exactly happened and the specifics on this tornado. just how intense it was. we did find out officially as we

thought it would be considered an ef-5 which is the highest on the scale and winds around 200 to 210 miles per hour there. it started at 2:45 and ended at 3:35. you see the damage happened in 50 men's and more of it happened in moore 10 minutes and how long it took to move through the city limits its. 17 miles path length and most longer than most tornado paths out there and the maximum width 1.3 miles. think about that. if you're driving in a car 60 miles an hour that is over a minute you're driving in that car and take that long to go from one side of the tornado to the other when it was at its max size. as far as the path intensity went these storms aren't at the ef-5 tornado for long and area of red south of moore and the city limits there is when it was ef-4 intensity. the yellow is ef-2 so it fluctuates in intensity as it goes through and the worst of it peaked over the city itself.

joe, you've been asking the question and on the front page of the paper how only 24 fatalities? i think if it happened at night and people hiding in their houses probably 200 dead. the time people were at work or at school, saved a lot of lives. >> we grew up in the deep south where there were tornadoes and these things always seem to come at night. >> or very, very early in the morning. this, with all of the children in school really is the thing that is so -- just -- just so upsetting really to think of all of those kids in schools and their teachers being so brave. >> and not having a safe room in every school in oklahoma, they have got to do that. let's go right now back to oklahoma. brian shactman has somebody standing by with him that tell us how we can help. what do we do, brian?

>> people don't understand what happens when you lose your water. you don't have access to your home and your medicine. the first thing i want to ask you what exactly do you do? give us an impression of some of the stories you've had to deal with so far on the ground. >> absolutely. americare. there is devastation everywhere you turn. do a 360 and see nothing but extreme devastation and something we have done over 30 years except it never gets easy to see. it's hard to watch. >> specifically what have you done since you've been here to help the people? >> we are still within the first 48 hours of the event so we are looking to meet the immediate needs. we are looking at water and basically hygiene supplies, toothpas toothpaste, deodorant and things you need that you leave home without. we are also looking at

immediately medicines for chronically ill patients and vaccinations. >> tell us quickly what happens when someone who needs medicine can't access their home and their life depends on getting that medicine? >> it can be extreme scary. we know that residents are relying on these medications every day to maintain their health and they are calling clinics who we work with on an ongoing basis so what we are able to do is take products that we have that are prepositioned and bring them to these clinics so they can quickly treat the patients and their condition didn't exacerbate. >> it's a big deal here. >> it is. it's so important to get the help there immediately. brian, thank you so much. you can go to americare.org. these days are so vital and something, cokie, that i saw in

katrina from the first day. >> right. >> it's the first week or so when the red cross and the other agencies are still trying to get their arms around this. that is when the help is needed. >> absolutely. i do a lot of work with save the children and we are in there because of all things you just heard about americare doesn't ply to children. no diapers in there and no special formula so we do that at save the children and another thing having safe spaces for kids and we learned that in katrina because we do it around the world all the team but after katrina, the children were in situations that they should never have been in. >> i know. >> and so now save the children is in there doing that kind of work. >> it's interesting. you talk about diapers and water. as our church was going back and forth every day and we drive over two hours every day and would take water but we found diapers too. kids would be walking around two or three days later without new diapers airport and stand in line with the hundred degree heat for water.

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take a look and tell me what you think. >> we love this city and no one will work harder to make it better than anthony. >> i will fight for you every single day. thanks for watching. well, mark sanford playbook. mark didn't have a woman next to him in his. >> no. >> i don't know that he pulls it off as well as mark sanford. what do you think, al? >> well, i don't know, joe. except -- >> by the way, let me just say, i know anthony. i worked with him and i like the guy. i believe in second chances, third chances. let's hope we all get ten chances. >> he clearly starts with some votes. he has run before and been on the ballot so he -- i'd be surprised, from what little bit i know if he wins the race, but he certainly changes the dynamics. >> he also has a very weak field right now. you like chris quinn, i know. but she is not well liked among a majority of new york voters. >> well, it's -- >> she has her issues too "the

new york times" told us. >> she has her issues but what you think is a weak field or not a weak field is a crowded field. you have multiple candidates on the democratic side. >> this forces a runoff most likely. >> chris quinn was hoping to get by without a runoff. you need 40% to not have a runoff in new york. they would not like a runoff because she is probably head-to-head with bill thompson. anthony weiner may change that and make it more complicated. if you look at the early polls and if you talk to the people who think they know, i don't think most people think there is enough room in there. >> i think it's the father for late night comedians, so wonderful. key me up at night to watch it and see what they are saying because it will be so much fun. >> you saw the ad and talked about it before we came on. how do you think the ad is going to play compared to mark sanford's which worked well. >> it's very similar in i made a mistake and put it out there but these are the great things can i do and as you say, you know,

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i'm finding pictures and jewelry and those are, of course, the things that are completely irreplaceable. as long as we keep finding stuff like this i will be happy because the rest of it is just material. every one of us are safe and alive and we are so blessed so wen heart broken for those that can't the say thing, so ws nothing. we have -- we would give up ten of these houses for the family that we have that's safe. >> so many lives shattered by this storm. ahead, we are going to be talking more about recovery efforts in oklahoma. we are going to be talking to the fema representative on the recovery efforts there. also going to be talking about

the ongoing justice battle with news organizations, the irs, and immigration bill in deep trouble. more "morning joe" in a moment.

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hollered for my little dog and he didn't answer or didn't come so i know he's in here somewhere. >> the dog. >> the dog. >> hi, puppy! >> oh! oh! oh! bless your little bitty heart! and help me. help me. i thought god just answered one prayer to let me be okay and he answered both of them. you wouldn't know it look at the sheer devastation in moore, oklahoma, but the situation there could have been worse. the death toll is not as high as first feared. and we are learning more about the brave actions of ordinary people who helped save so many lives. authorities now say 24 died in monday's tornado. that is less than half the number that was announced after the twister touched down. 9 of those 24 are children and there are now 237 reported

injuries. 9-year-old jenay hornsby was one of the students who died in the plaza tower elementary school. she is one of many who sheltered in the hallways and bathrooms. as kate snow reports, the death toll could have been far worse. >> reporter: inside the walls of the plaza towers element school hundreds of students were counting down the number of days to last week of class but in minutes it went from this to win. classrooms obliterated and auditorium caved in. parents of other students tell nbc news children were in that auditorium. >> we have seen it from the air. this is it. right here behind me as i step out of the way and let joe zoom in, this is the front of plaza towers elementary school. this school is basically gone. >> reporter: in the hours after the tornado, dramatic images young children were rescued and with darkness the search for survivors continued. some children had escaped from harm.

their parents had picked them up just before the school went on lock down on monday but the majority stayed inside as they practiced in drills many times. math teacher rhonda crosswhite was helping her sixth graders with an end of school game when the principal came over the loud speaker and told them to go to the hallway. damien klein is a fourth grader. >> she told us to get our math book and bag. i will had my bag and we went in the hall. >> reporter: why did she tell you to get a math book or a bag? >> so we could put it over our head. >> reporter: a fifth grade teacher saw the funnel cloud approaches and yelled for everyone to get into bathrooms and closet. >> said you got to get them in there. i said i'll stay outside. she said you're getting in there too. >> reporter: she was crouched over four children and did what teachers do. >> i remember the little boy saying, "i love you, miss crosswhite! please don't let me die with you."

i said we are not dying! we are not dying today! quit saying that. i did the teacher thing we are probably not supposed to do and i prayed. and i prayed outloud. >> reporter: what did you say? >> i said, "please don't take these kids today." >> reporter: when it was quiet again she sent a kid up the bathroom wall to look out. >> he got up there and he looked down at me and he said, "there is nothing left." >> reporter: damien was in the same bathroom crouched under a sink. how loud was it? >> it was pretty loud. >> reporter: were you scared? >> uh-huh. there was a bunch of people screaming. we could hear them from the girls restroom. >> reporter: his mom spent an anxious hour wondering if her little boy was still alive and wonder why the school didn't have a better shelter plan. >> i think every school in oklahoma should have an underground shelter. it shouldn't take a tornado this size and this many kids hurt, missing, and lost their lives to

realize that they need underground shelters. >> chris jansing, this morning, out in oklahoma, that is the question why didn't this school or every school in oklahoma have these underground shelters? >> a lot of people asking that question, joe and mika. big answer, obviously, is cost. it's average about 1.4 million in a school. so the fact that these two schools didn't have them is very typical here. same at the places where we're standing. only about 10% of the houses here in moore have these safe shelters. they cost as little as about $4,000 in prefab but installed more than $8,000 to $10,000. in the last lottery 16,000 applied and only 500 got it and it's 2,000 to cost. that is one thing people are weighing. it isn't just the money. there is a culture here that they don't want to be told by their government that they have to do this. so when there have been proposals before, they have been

shot down. joe? >> wow. it's fascinating. >> i can't imagine that would happen now. >> again, i don't think it happens now and, chris, especially at schools. it's one thing with all of the homes there, but certainly do you sense, did you hear yesterday with the press gagles people talking about the need to at least make sure that every school had these shelters? >> reporter: yeah, i think that when you talk to parents certainly and you talk to residents, they think that there needs to be a reassessment of whether that's available at schools. obviously, that's where people are most vulnerable. having said that, as you well know, when you look at any of these issues there is also a cost benefit analysis. one estimate i saw that -- first of all, most of these happen at night so the chances of children being at school are very slim and even at that, the chance of a tornado hitting overall is only about 1% to 2%. so this is also viewed as kind of a freak accident here. when people are given the option

as they were in joplin when a lot of people rebuilt after the huge tornado killed that 160 people two years ago, 50% who are rebuilding are doing so. when people look at thorough factors the reality, the chances they are taking their chances but i will say to your point, when i ask people what do you think about when the school rebuilds, there is a majority of opinion. >> after we were there yesterday, before we left to talk to mark ellard who has lived in his home in moore, oklahoma, for 23 years. he lived there with his wife and two kids and his dog. he wrgeeathered the tornado in house and today that home is barely standing. >> reporter: you took shelter inside this house. >> uh-huh. >> reporter: i don't know where that is possible. can you explain to me how you

made it through? everything is crushed. >> with the grace of god saw me through. there was a closet in my bedroom and my dog and i got into it and we just laid down and everything went around us. >> reporter: did you think you were going to make it? >> i thought i was going to die there for a little while, for a few minutes, i wasn't sure. >> reporter: what do you think you're going to do now? >> oh, get me a new house. >> reporter: i think it might be time. >> yeah. i don't know if it will be here or somewhere else. got to weigh all of our options. >> reporter: this town is gone. >> i haven't been outside of my yard other than a few minutes ago when we went over there, so i don't know what is what. i haven't seen tv or listened to the radio since this happened.

>> reporter: i wish you the best of luck. >> thank you. >> reporter: our prayers are with you and all of your neighbors. >> mika, you look at mark's house. you wonder how he survived. what did he do? >> he stayed in the closet with his dog. his wife was not there. >> he picked the right closet! >> he did. >> it was about the only part of the home left standing. >> what we saw in a couple of houses in that neighborhood there was literally maybe one room and that room would be intact and the rest would be decimat decimated. >> look at these pictures. they are staggering. i said yesterday morning looking over it, it looked post-apocalyptic. it really was just staggering. thomas roberts talked about how family and a house three doors down from where we did the show yesterday, they got a couple of people hid inside a bathtub, crawled in the bathtub.

it's one of the only things that is left remaining. >> incredible. >> that is only thing remaining in that house. >> you see the bathtubs on top of the rubble. >> brian shactman is still in moore, oklahoma. great news this morning, brian. the death toll cut in half. it's 24. of course, so tragic. the 24 deaths, nine of those are children. but much better than we initially expected. >> reporter: that's absolutely right, joe and mika. plaza towers elementary we try to get three-dimension relate to the story. the elementary school is through there as you go through blocks and blocks of destruction. we have talked about that so much because of the seven fatalities of young children at that school. off to the left behind the blocks and blocks, briarwood elementary school not the same fatal destruction but still was

in the path of the tornado. we will back to show you what happened at briarwood elementary school. >> justin? you're okay. >> come over here. >> really hurt. >> where is she? >> miss moser has her some she is out? okay. >> the woman you just saw there, she was one of the many iconic images. that is utter chaos. you can't help, guys, it's a totally different scene than newtown but has that same sort of energy of i want to get to my children and i want to make sure that they are accounted for and

there, obviously, was extreme relief for those who did and extreme tragedy for those who didn't. >> no doubt about it. >> brian, thank you. that's incredible video. that really captured the chaos and the hysteria. joining us from oklahoma city is the administrator of the federal emergency management agency, craig fugate. craig, lay it out for us. what is fema doing now and how can it help? >> the first support was to the communities with search and rescue teams bringing in more federal teams to support that. right now it's about getting people a place to stay who have lost their homes. if they did have insurance to register with fema now so we can start providing temporary assistance and we are going in to see what needs to be done to start the recovery. >> how many people has fema dealt with and how many people do you think you will be trying

to help overall? >> we have had about a thousand people already registered with fema and based upon the area of damages, we still think we got a ways to go but we know some people don't have communications right now, cell phones still not working in places. they are not thinking about registering but thinking about what few things they can pick up. we will go neighborhood-to-neighborhood and talk to people and see what they may need. it may not be fema but it may be red cross and make sure they are getting the help they need. >> anybody on the scene back in 2005 for hurricane katrina saw the slow response, not only from fema, but from the red cross. a lot of other organizations. what has fema learned over the past five to seven years to make sure that a katrina disaster doesn't happen again or certainly the disastrous response doesn't happen to katrina again. >> you don't wait. we were getting reports from the media and social media and the

state had not requested assistance but we knew the potentially was there. we started moving and turned out it wasn't that bad you don't wait. you can't wait. you can't get time back in a disaster. >> good approach. >> craig fugate, thank you so much and good luck with your efforts. >> thank you, craig. appreciate it. you're looking at these pictures again. you look at the pictures. it is still hard to grasp what is gopg going oing on. the front page of "usa today" the question today encapsulated it. unspeakable tragedy and 26 deaths. >> the 16-minute period of time people got out. >> they had warning and that is huge and some things we have spent some federal money on is getting tornado and severe weather sort of organizations in place to give people warning.

>> cokie, people don't usually listen to warnings. >> they did here. >> they did. >> i think they did. the only thing that can explain it as you look at these pictures and the devastation, the only thing that can explain a death toll that was actually half of what we heard it was yesterday. >> thought it would double. >> we were told it was going to double from the medical examiner's office who, by the way, they need some calculators there. they double counted which, again, caused a lot of heartache for those first 24 to 48 hours. but there is, obviously, a real need out there to have a quick response. >> it was incredible. up next, the immigration bill clears a big hurdle in the senate thanks in part to a boost of support from the silicon valley. steve case explains why so many tech giants are pushing for reform. >> on the front page of the "usa today" irs official to plead the fifth in that scandal.

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♪ welcome back. >> he said i think this internet thing has a future. >> he might be on to something. >> okay. >> welcome back to "morning joe." here with us now cofounder of aol and chairman and ceo of revolution, steve case who thinks the internet may be on to something. >> we may be on to something here. >> keep my eye on it. >> i just keep an eye on it. >> thank you. also with us associate editor of "the washington post" and msnbc political analyst, eugene robinson joins the table. >> gene, great to have you back. so shareholder to hear about the loss of your mom. >> so appreciate that. thank you so much.

you guys were great in your expressions of sympathy and had her a long time and it's tough without her. >> it doesn't matter how long your parents have been sick, it's just -- it's always a shock. >> it is but thank you. appreciate it. >> really good to have you back. we were talking last hour, mika, with the immigration bill and certainly going back to the "usa today," apparently today the only newspaper i need to read. >> exactly! only one you've gotten to. >> immigration bill clears a hurdle and it did clear a hurdle. cokie was talking about this as well. i think this immigration bill is going to face some real problems in the house. you had, al, yesterday, bill crystal coming out and telling laura ingram i supported it in '06 and '08.

i think we need to do it piecemeal and think the bill is too big. the scandals, the dustups, i think at the end of the day will feed into the worst instincts or the best instincts, depending on your viewpoint, of a lot of tea party members in the house -- i guess what i meant to say their worst fears about big government. and i'm one of those guys that fear huge solutions to problems, but you think the house -- you think it's going to still pass the house? >> i don't disagree with anything you've said, but i do think that 13-5 vote was very impressive. i think there is still going to be hurdles. i think they are likely to get 70 plus votes in the senate. when the senate passes a bill like that that has popular support that is politically, i think, incredibly important for both parties, particularly for the gop, i don't think the house can stand in the way. >> you said, steve, last night, when we were talking, you think

if there could be a big vote in the senate and 70 senators supporting this that you think the house will be pressured to put it on the floor and pass it? >> i think that is correct. i also think we have to look back a year ago if you had said there would be a gang of eight come together and put bipartisan legislation around comprehensive reform, nobody said it would happen and it did and a sensible package and the judiciary committee considered 300 different amendments and passed through the committee with some changes and some of the specifics but basically was strong. i think it will pass the senate with a strong vote. i think a shot at getting 70 votes and i think it sends a strong message to the house but i think you have to look at the context of this. it's not just about fixing a problem with immigration which is how it's partly perceived. it's how do we unlock the next wave of innovation and win the global battle for talent and remain the most entrepreneurial nation and something the in the

house and senate will rally behind. i think it really is time to come together. it's complicated. it's sensitive. i think people understand that. but it's a logical bill that was put together in a bipartisan way. we need more of that kind of -- bipartisan approach. >> from a different angle which would be the virtual march. tell bus that. >> it's launching today called the march for innovation and everybody on the internet have their voices heard, who can't come directly to washington and talk directly with their folks in congress can do it digitally. a whole series of events in a variety of different cities. i'm going up to new york for some events and mayor bloomberg is doing something this morning and series of events all day and shining a spotlight on this issue and not just frame immigration as a policy issue around how do you deal with this issue but frame it around innovation and intentrepreneurs.

>> i don't think ted cruz will be there. >> you see ted cruz's position on immigration. i think it's more consistent with most republicans in the house who may even say, okay, let's figure out a pathway to legalization but no way do we do a pathway to citizenship. >> look. i think at this point you have to say that this immigration bill has gone farther, faster than a lot of people could have predicted it and i know that the white house is actually surprised and pleased that it's gone so far. nonetheless i don't think there is a way this bill gets a majority of the republican caucus in the house. >> boehner lead it on the floor without a majority of the majority? >> i think he is going to have to and i think he might well because it's so important to the republican party if you want to -- >> you're wondering what is helpful to jaohn boehner's future. this doesn't help him?

>> it doesn't and he has to pick his shots and so it doesn't come down to whether boehner is willing to -- >> if he gets help from paul ryan, which he will, and if kevin mccarthy goes along with it, i think enough to s-- >> it sends a signal and i think the house will vote and support it and it will be a difficult summer. i think still a lot of work to go done but i bet by the end of the summer this will pass the senate and the house. >> let's remember the last election was not that long ago. election after which everybody said the republicans are going to be marginalized unless they embrace issues like this and become more mainstream. i think as you get closer to it, everybody remembers that. they see this as economic boost for this country. from a fundamental economic point of view not a lot of

confusion among them that it's a powerful thing. >> a lot of people saying the logical thing for the republican party to do after the last election is to pass immigration reform. well, that's a much more debatab debatable topic from citizenship to background checks. you go into the deservive dricke districts and find it's far less popular than background checks. i wonder at the end of the day when this vote comes up how many members will say think about the economists on wall street telling me the smart thing to do. i don't know. we will see what happens. it all comes down to i think to john boehner. is he willing to risk his speakership by waiving the rule -- >> this is also about jobs.

>> yeah, but these congressmen worry about their jobs. >> they do but the best way to get the job creation into this nation moving is to support entrepreneurialship and win the battle for talent. >> we agree on that but a harder sale to the worker see the number come in and number take jobs but they create jobs. >> let's move on now to the irs. >> exactly. you got to pore through these stories. >> steve is going to apologize for the irs. >> apologize. i thought i was defending. >> defending loy -- lois lerner. >> she has invoked her fifth amendment right to avoid answering lawmaker questions. douglas did testify yesterday.

>> i'm deeply, deeply saddened by this whole set of events. i've read the ig's report and i very much regret that it happened and it happened on my watch. >> is that an apology? >> to your constituents, i don't know the details of your constituents. i don't know what happened to them. >> so it's not your responsibility? >> i -- >> the buck doesn't stop with you? >> i certainly am not personally responsible for creating a list that had inappropriate criteria on it. >> sometimes just saying i'm sorry is actually the way to go. who is responsible? >> i'd like to know who is. >> nobody is responsible for anything in washington. the president is not responsible. the justice department is not responsible. the attorney general is not responsible. the head of the irs. by the way, let's just say this guy is a bush appointee, right?

>> yeah. it never should have happened. i don't know why you don't -- acknowledging that, he acknowledges it never should have happened so say you were sorry. you were in charge. >> i don't have a problem with his answer. if he didn't create the list, who did? maybe he is opening up new questions. who is this? >> if you're the head of the irs, you're head of the it's. >> exactly. >> if you're eric holder, you're in charge of the justice department. if you're the president of the united states, you're responsible. >> there are interesting issues there with -- you know, what were they doing? they were looking at these 501(c)(4) groups. that actually or nakedly political in what they do on both sides of the ideological spectrum. i do think there is a problem with the underlying legislation. >> no doubt about it. >> but nonetheless even given that, certainly no -- going after one side and not the

other. >> steve rattner, lois lerner pleading the fifth. >> i think any attorney would tell her. with possible criminal behavior you don't say enough under oath. >> no doubt about it. i would tell my client to plead the fifth and go up there myself. >> and tell the whole story? >> tell the whole story. any lawyer worth anything, if you're talking about criminal charges, you got to say, hey, plead the fifth. this is -- they are going to be playing for their constituents and the tv cameras and don't give a damn about you. you're a punching bag now and you represent everything that went wrong in this scandal and protect yourself and that said, the headline on only newspaper i've read today doesn't look good which is, again, irs official to plead the fifth in scandal. that just doesn't help anybody in the administration. >> joe, i'll join steve. i don't think this is a scandal.

i think it's a colossal screw-up. i think what they did is wrong. i don't think there was any criminal act. >> who decided to just target -- >> oh, my lord. come on. >> i think "the new york times" piece last sunday kaurtcaptured. it was a screw-up in the cincinnati office and people weren't qualified to do what they were doing and what they did was wrong. >> one side, al. >> it wasn't just one side. >> disproportionately one side. >> no clear -- >> there is a group that tied to get tax-exempt status and they couldn't get it until they changed their name to sound like an environmental defense front and then breeze right through. no doubt. mika, you were going to read something here but no doubt they had their eyes on conservatives and targeting -- >> tell me it doesn't say scandal or really, really, really bad for the president, the white house, the democrats. the tax-exempt division which

lerner ran created a be on the lookout list for groups using the word tea party and patriot in their names. a recent report said lerner tried to correct the list when she learned about it in 2011. >> but that is lerner. a mid level bureaucrat. i'm saying it's wrong. not defending it but saying the idea -- >> who gave the order? don't we have a right to know who gave the order? >> we sure do. >> what created this list? >> i will yield to mr. rattner. >> okay, counsel. >> where the white house totally messed up is the way they have handled it since then. shifting channels. it has been terrible. >> steve rattner, bring up a great point. the white house keeps changing their story which actually makes them look guilty. carney can't keep a story straight. >> that is the issue, i think, the fact that the facts keep changing. maybe they didn't do the homework they should have done

before started talking about it. look. here are the facts. we said before the commissioner was a bush appointee until last november. everybody's career, no evidence at the moment that this was anything other than some bureaucratic mismash. >> what is that? a mismash that was focused on -- >> back up. you have a law that was being abused. never intended to. >> i agree on both sides. >> you have a citizens united decision which stimulates this enormous flood of applications. >> on both sides. >> disproportionately on the right side. more from the left side than the right side for this status. i'm not here to say it happened. some bureaucrat say we are getting the applications from the right side and find key words and find out who they are. >> is it fair to ask, gene, who

decided to come up with these lists and why doesn't 9 white house lead the charge. we need to find out now. we can figure it out in 24 hours. whose idea was this? it's in an e-mail somewhere. >> look. this is the irs which touches all our lives, right? >> yes. >> the lives of every american. somebody has to say, you know, we can't do this. you can suggest that, gee, let's look for these key words but somebody has to say no, because that is putting a political spin on what we are doing. yes, it is a scandal but it doesn't reach very high. it seems to reach -- scandal, i think, is right word because i think it was outrageous but i don't have any indication to think it goes higher than lerner. >> i think really terrible nerves in politics. >> and it's simple. somebody generated the list. who? one person who did not generate the list, tim cook.

yesterday, he came out and he aggressively did what he could do to stop apple from paying taxes and he did it a legal way. a lot of people very angry. but just as i said, if you're a lawyer, you tell somebody do everything you can do to not incriminate yourself and protect yourself. isn't that the attitude that ceos take if i don't have to pay taxes, if i have smart people telling me how to avoid paying taxes legally that's what i do for my company and my shareholders? i think that is true. also a sign we need to fix our tax code. everybody is talking about this for years. once we get through immigration, i think the issue of the irs is a scandal and noisy throughout the summer. when the history books are written on the summer of 2013 the irs will be asrisk and passing comprehensive tax reform and getting the side on entrepreneurship and

integration. hopefully, the bipartisan support is coming together on immigration and move forward around issues on the budget and deficit issues and taking a fresh look at the tax code. everybody is saying this a while. the tax code is way too complicated. everybody knows it and on main street it's true and wall street also and we need to deal with it. >> this guy did pretty well on the hill. he thought it was going to be rough. he ended up tim cook did well. >> the problem it's a global tax code. not within just our power. we are dealing with tax laws all over the world and what is going on with taxes and the gaining of corporate tax by company is no different than what goes on when a state offers a couple of hundred million dollars of incentives to you to move your business there. ireland being the poster boy cut their taxes almost zero to get jobs there and what is happens. >> john mccain yesterday asked the question why do i have to keep updating my apps?

he speaks for himself. why do i have to keep updating my apps? >> the question whether you want the new version or not. you don't have to do it. you don't have to watch "morning joe" either but most people want to. >> thank you. >> steve, thank you so much. always great to have you here. >> al hunt, thank you as well and thanks for coming last night. eugene, stay with us. sergio garcia takes his feud to tiger woods to an inappropriate level and using what many people see as racially charged slurs. that is next on "morning joe." i describe myself as a mother, a writer and a performer. i'm also a survivor of ovarian and uterine cancers. i even wrote a play about that. my symptoms were a pain in my abdomen and periods that were heavier and longer than usual for me. if you have symptoms that last two weeks or longer, be brave, go to the doctor. ovarian and uterine cancers are gynecologic cancers. symptoms are not the same for everyone.

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warning the first tornado warning went out at 2:40. new castle was in line first but by the time the tornado got up here it was more than 30 minutes later. the tornado emergency warning went out at 3:01. the residents of moore had a good solid 20 to 30 minutes but the problem with ef-5 or ef-4 damage across the area the only way to five it is to go underground. you can see the width of the tornado as it got out here. we are several miles east and north of i-35 so we are on the other side of where you were, you and joe were the other morning, yesterday morning. the entire path from here to there. still a huge tornado. wider than average. the average tornado about 50 to a hundred yards. it came across the hill from where everybody is staged pretty much over around the moore medical center and came over here. you can see nothing is standing. just some of these trees and went off towards the east/northeast and roped out or

dissipated about three or four miles downstream so this is what we are left with. a maximum path 1.3 miles and moved at 20 miles an hour and slower than the average twister which averages about 30 miles an hour. so that didn't help. but twisters can be almost stationary or race along at about 70 miles an hour. ef-5, 210-mile-an-hour sustained winds and found damage around the elementary school from brookfield elementary and it was either the building, a huge part of the building collapsed or there was some serious stretch of impacts to steel or concrete and how you get ef-5 damage in that situation or if you take a shopping mall and a huge part of a shopping mall is flattened that is the 5 damage. you got to really get up there to get ef-5 damage. if a home is taken off its foundation, mika, that probably is just ef-4. i say just but ef-4 damage and you have to go one step feather and what they found yesterday in moore, oklahoma. today is the two-year

anniversary of the joplin ef-5 in 2011. back to you. >> thank you so much, mike. joining us is jay newton small. "16 minutes" is how much time you have to save your life, a story of the oklahoma tornado and on the issue of "time." i have the perfect piece of video to set up this cover. take a look at the moments captured after everyone who escaped from briarwood, elementary school. you get a sense of the chaos and hysteria and just the moment. >> justin. >> justin, you're okay. >> over here. >> he's there! jordan is really hurt! >> where is he?

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. >> welcome back to "morning joe." here in moore, oklahoma, still photography can be so powerful when it comes to events like this. take a special edition of "time" magazine and the cover image shows it all and the title is 16 minutes. i am here with a correspondent for "time" magazine. >> that's the time that people have had this week on the ground when the first warning went out from the norman tornado watch center here not far away to the

minute the tornado touched down in oklahoma south of moore. it was 16 minutes and that puts into the chain of events that keeps going. we have the police that are alerted and scoots that have to make a tough decision. do they hold children in and send children out to extreme weather? it's this whole chain of decisions that takes place in the 16 minutes. >> you were focused on the school. parents showed up and i'm a parent. they want their kids and they have to say no. >> it was amazing. one woman rushed to the school to pick up her 6-year-old daughter who has autism and got there and the school said nobody, doors are locked. she was freaked out. this was plaza towers.

the two other children are fine and they get out and she wons back to the school and on the way she runs into a mother who is a classmate of hers who told her her daughter is dead. she can't see her daughter and the school is flattened and turns out the daughter was saved by the teacher who threw herself on top of this girl to save her life. this mother was irate. why can't i bring my daughter with me. if she was with us in the shelter, she would be fine. a lot of questions about what happens with the schools and others and a lot of soul searching. do they release or not. . >> the special edition of 16 minutes. that is the time that everyone had to react before the tornado touchdown in moore, oklahoma. back to you. >> thank you. up next, some know who knows moore, oklahoma more than

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i thought i lost one. >> i was so shocked. i didn't expect to see it totally wipe out the way it did. i don't have anything but what i have on today. my kids don't have no clothes. i am trying to see what i can save of clothes or anything. >> you wouldn't know it looking at the sheer devastation, but the situation could have been far worse. the death toll is not as high as first feared. we are learning more about the brave actions of ordinary people who helped save so many lives. authorities say 24 people died in monday's tornados, less than half the number announced after the twister touched down. nine of the 24 were children. there 237 reported injuries. 9-year-old janay hornsby was one of the children who died. the community of moore, oklahoma

is no strangerer to severe weather. it is located near the heart of tornado alley. as tom costello reports, they are raising new questions about how they can better prepare for potential disaster. >> another devastating tornado and so many people are asking why aren't there more basements where people need them most. many who managed to get underground survived. >> it ripped open the door and just ghasz and debris. we thought we were dead. >> the soil heavy with cla i and water makes everything prone to flooding and mold. most homes are build on concrete and can only with stand 90 mile per hour winds and not 200. >> we don't design homes the

same as o long the coast. >> a residential tornado safe room can be installed in the ground or the home itself. a reinforced box like a bank vault built to fema standards. they are $8,000 to $10,000 each and last year 500 homeowners were chosen out of 1600 ap canne cants. the city complained that the program was delayed because fema standards were a constantly changing target. they are looking into what caused the delay. why weren't schools better prepared? >> it raised a lot of questions with people, why don't they have storm shelters? >> 100 do have safe rooms, but they are expensive. $1.4 million per school.

>> the number of funds and you set priorities on which schools you do want to ask for. it was not a matter that they had been left out. >> the town of moore had not built shelters because, the town said, it faced a 1 to 2% chance of a tornado hitting on any spring day. >> how do you prioritize what schools get shelters and what schools don't? how do you prioritize spending in tornado alley, in a place that already has been devastated? >> there is a 2% chance that it's going to happen. it might take a while, but it's going to happen. >> i don't know. how would you prioritize it? i would say every elementary

school. that's the priority and then middle school and high schools. with high school students, you have more of an ability to get in the car and take care of yourself than 5, 6, 7, 8-year-olds. they have to cower in halls and closets? no. you prioritize by saying when you build schools, you have the shelters. if they are preexisting, you build the shelters. they have enough money. >> money was the issue. >> they will now. brip is in moore, oklahoma. you were in one of the shelters recently and especially in a school. it's hard to build a shelter that keeps the school in it. it's not cheap. >> it is not, but the

neighborhood has been destroyed and they are going to rebuild, they would have to do something to make sure if this hit at night, they would take care of it it was built in the 70s and this is an inground concrete cell that has been here for a couple of decades. i would tell you i went down into it and it's so solid. it's not inpen trabl, but it was untouched and unscathe and clean as a whistle inside. every house would have to do it, but if the homeowner makes a decision to live here and take care of that or is it something that is the community and the municipality or the state or the federal government? i can't answer the questions, but with this history, i can't imagine anyone will rebuild without it. >> no doubt about it. we are talking about how we do

it. oklahoma? they know about drilling in oklahoma and getting below the earth's surface. i can't believe there can't be a partnership between the oil companies that make billions of dollars by drilling. i can't believe there can't be a partnership. a lot of good people would like to make sure that every school especially an 4re7elementary sc where these children with go to. >> summcertainly i think that c happen. in residential construction it sounds like it's much more difficult. those are difficult problems to solve if you have moisture and mold. >> not only that, but residentially you are talking about a six to $8,000 tab with people that are struggling to put groceries on the table and keep their kids in school or get

them to college. it's far different for all the individual houses. >> a couple of things that they can do, you know from the clips that clip the roof on essentially that you can do in new construction. that wouldn't save a house from this devastation of a tornado, but the winds on the periphery, it might be the difference between taking the roof off and not. >> we learned a lot after hurricane andrew and building codes were changed after that storm. i suspect we will learn a lot after this storm and saying there was only a 2% chance that moore was going to hit again. i find it hard to believe that oklahoma and other areas in tornado alley can't figure out a way to make sure that when kids go to school when the tornados come and they always come, they

will be safe. >> not having to scramble and find a place to go and figure out where the tornado is going. look at the scene moments after everyone escaped from briarwood elementary school. take a listen to this group of people after escaping. where? where is he? [ screams ] oh, my god! it. >> she's out? okay. >> i know. >> chris jansing, there a lot of emergency funding questions in the wake of disasters like this as we look at these images too.

a lot of questions about what we do moving forward to keep our kids in school. what are you hearing in oklahoma this morning? >> now that we are past the search and rescue operations, i am hearing a lot of this buck buckling up and they have consistently voted against federal aid packages. in the case of hurricane sandy, i talked to my program and he defended it. he said that sandy bill is full and coburn has not backed off either. >> it's not even a legitimate question. i was asked that yesterday before we anyhow how many had died. it's inappropriate. the fact is that you have a lot of ways to borrow money against the people who are trying to

help. it's not going to be a problem and we will not have to do an emergency drill. we have money set aside. >> obviously they want offsets. there is going to be federal funding. having said that, part of the push back is when you look at national statistics, federal disaster declarations, oklahoma is third behind california and florida. you are happy to take the money, but you don't want it for other places. i tried to ask a couple of local and state officials, what they said, they didn't want to criticize the senators. they said look around. you can see how devastated we are. we need federal help.

you heard a friend of the show with the different issues. >> it will be interesting to see what the delegation does. i suspect a lot of people will say we are dpg to pass this relief help. we will give the people of oklahoma everything we need. we are not going to offset it. tom coburn may want to, but we are not going to offset it. there is a good likelihood that will happen and it will be interesting and put tom coburn in a very interesting position and a very position. do they vote no on a relief bill because it's not paid for? >> i think that would be difficult for them to do. >> i don't know how you vote no on that. >> i don't know how you do. maybe they will come to an agreement that when there is a

terrible disaster that destroys a town, that's something they can help out with. >> simpson bowles suggested you set up a fund and if you understand it in five-years cycles. you just budget for it. >> you have these emergency supplemental bills and when it happens, congress women and senators that use the tragedy of somebody else to get poor in their district. if there was this simpson bowles approach, you wouldn't have an unscrupulous congresswoman and senators sliding for their own district. tom coburn has a great point. there is even the 9/11 rebill. it was shameful after the worst attack on the u.s. soil in our

history. if there senators that do it after 9/11, they doll it after sandy, but this is a broken system and that's a great approach. >> simpson bowles and it's there for a good reason. >> and a pork bill. >> put the pork in one bill. >> let people decide. the national cowboys square dance museum. i like what it is. they have all got them. in florida they have to pay kids to pay golf. the national helium reserve. i agree. let's have one big old pork bill and a free-for-all. >> let's go become to new york for the latest on the whether

are and the aftermath of the tornado. >> we made out and didn't have tornados and a chance of a few more during the day today. just to let us know how long and intense it was and what time it took the hit. this was on the ground for about 50 minutes and took about 10 or 15 minutes to move through the greater moore, oklahoma area. it's officially an e f5 tornado. these are estimated to be about 210. you can see the destruction done with an e f5 tornado. well constructed houses will be reduced down. from moore, oklahoma, the map that showed the intensity, tornados don't have the same intensity. they peak and go down and come back up. the red shows the highest

intensity. the worst intensity was over the top of the most populated areas of moore, oklahoma. shauk it up to extreme bad luck. now and towards new orleans shortly. later on we have a risk of more strong storms. a few tornados in areas of kentucky or ohio. we don't expect long track devastating tornados, but we will watch that later in the ohio value. >> we are reading the top of the playbook. some people arrive back to find piles of bricks and twisted metal. questions abound about whether and how to rebuild. how much it's going to cost.

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i have been fighting for the middle class and i hope i get a second chance to work for you. new york city should be the middle class capital of the world. i have ideas on how to do it, 64 of them on my website. take a look and let me know what you think. >> we love this city and no one will work harder than anthony. >> pai will fight for you every day. thank you for watching. >> all right. that's just -- no. >> correspondent for politico, mike allen and executive editor and the head -- nbc news, political director and "the daily rundown," chuck todd. >> what did i do? >> don't egg him on. >> we are in d.c. he hates new york city. take note of that.

anthony wiener, looks like he tears a page from mark sanford's playbook. how does it play? >> when he started to play the video, everybody started laughing. that's not a great start for a campaign. his idea is i will take it head on and apologize and admit it was ugly and a mess, but he's a good politician who is in a crowded primary who thinks he would have a legitimate shot. the backdrop will be that embarrassing picture and he said there was more. he did more than shoot pictures of himself. if they can elect him and vote for newt gingrich as we know,s newt has been going through the

years for his personal -- listen. we want conservative champions. will new york city not forgive anthony wiener? >> i'm sorry, mike allen. while not something they would condone, it's easier to understand. a lot of people would not be able to relate to that. a lot of people would like them and not take pictures. >> i made mistakes. people are used to hearing that and i think -- i think it's the new age information thing.

>> that's a great point. it is generational for people under 30. they will understand this than the people in long island who decide. >> when he said there might be more pictures out there, that's the problem. when we talk to more democrats who said the speaker is the perceived favorite, there is a poll out this morning who shows 25% christine quinn and 15% wiener. he could force a run and we don't know what's going to happen in that, but what everyone said is the tabs are out to kill him. like all the press will be looking for this evidence that everyone we expect is out there and having trouble hiring because of the factor.

>> there might be embarrassing photos out there. there definitely are. we talked about new york politics and washington. tomes fair that we talk about washington politics. i don't know if you saw the top of this show, but cokie roberts and al hunt. cokey and al, not tea party patriots, absolutely shocked as am i what this justice department did. inside fox news's washington bureau. you add on top of that, people inside the white house talking about the espionage act against the reporter who did what reporters have been doing for 200 years. it's almost as if eric holder and barack obama never read the pentagon's papers case. we have been having to fight for 200 years and they are talking

about espionage? >> what's funny is candidate obama if george bush and dick cheney were doing this, what candidate obama would say. he would be unloading and a lot of democrats would be unloading on the administration. they were trying to crack down. you can't look at this and see it as anything other than an attempt to basically scare anybody from ever leaking anything ever again. they want to criminalize journalism. that's what it's coming down to. if you end up criminalizing journalism or when it comes to reporting on the federal government on national security, the only place they think they technically can do that is on the issues of national security. what it's going to do is the impact we heard, we heard them say this over the weekend. it is going to make whistle

blower and people who might leak at regular sources. i had different conversations with people over the last week who are sitting there not quite comfortable having certain conversations on the phone. it completely -- maybe that's the intent. i can't think of any other intent of why they are going about this in a broad harassing way. >> when chuck says they are trying to criminalize journalism, that's tough until you put the bullet points up there. what they did in the house gallery, by the way, also indirectly the justice department obviously tracing congress women. we used that phone as well. what they have done to fox news, far more damning than if they do this to in, s in, b-- msnbc.

this is not chilled by what this administration is doing. >> say it doesn't go to the top and it was not ordered. this is still a government that is not being tightly run. this is a piece with the irs. we are seeing that this agency that touches every american was poorly run. we see everything that does not seem to be specific examples. now that we see a couple of cases with the justice department, it's harder to say i recuse myself and the white house to say they didn't know. >> let me ask gene. i'm a republican and i oppose the president's domestic policies, an awful lot of them. since i'm running this conversation, there people at home who might say joe is overstating it. you see chuck talking about criminalizing journalism.

and cokie has been around the city for a long time and seen it from her dad's and mom's side and never seen anything like this before. >> in my column in yesterday's paper with the administration and saying exactly that to criminalize and by threatening espionage charges and calling him a coconspirator. i found it outrageous and i think -- i have got blasted boy people whose politics i agree with. the administration is simply -- >> isn't this more chilling because we are talking about foreign policy for the most part.

what did vietnam teach us? you can go back to world war ii. our government in times of war always lies to us. our fwgovernment in times of wa tries to take us. from george washington forward doesn't want information out there because they think it gives it away. >> everyone overuses the top secret stance. >> every single from abraham lincoln forward. what makes this administration different? is why do they think they should criminalize journalism? with a constitutional professor. >> given the fact that this cuts at the heart of what you do for a living. what's the other side of the story? what could it be?

>> all the republicans were demanding the leak investigation. they now have the leak investigation because they thought they were being selectively done. that's the political explaination. >> it's more damning because the white house leak when is it suits them and when it doesn't, they call it espionage. >> tomorrow the president is supposed to give a big speech where he is supposed to lay out new ground rule when is it comes to the drone war. where should the drone war be conducted out of the cia and against the pent gone and talk about gitmo and a way to shut it down. it's an opportunity for him to address the issue. he ought to use the speech where we are talking about the issues of national security and talking about where there should be oversight when it am cans to the drone war and where there should be transparency and how to deal with the rule ofula you and all

these things. part is also how to deal with the free press in trying to report on national security. he ought to use tomorrow's speech as an opportunity to address this. if he doesn't, it is a huge missed opportunity. >> a huge missed opportunity. let me talk about both sides of the story. can you name a long time reporter or a long time broadcast news reporter defending the administration who said i understand why they are 3ing this? >> nobody is defending it. it's just the press whining. at the end of the day, if sources refuse to give information because they think they will be disclosed by tactics. they will have that chilling effect.

we won't yen they went bad and the complications in afghanistan. we won't know about the details of watergate. without people airing out will publicly. >> the non-journalist, i will take a stab at this. where is the line? there is a line somewhere where an administration is entitled to protect national security. yesterday you had what i thought at least was a well-argued op ed by three former officials from the republican administration and from a democrat. going back to the operation of yemen an extend to which a cover was in jeopardy. not so much trying to get after the journalist, but the people who had security clearances and he violated them. >> we also hear from the story

the white house is upset because they were going to write the story. so cynical they leak when it's to their advantage. >> the rumblings are over the last 24 hours from the administration. it's along the lines of we get it. we get why calling a reporter or a coconspirator is not acceptable and it's not proper. >> does that make it better? >> we will see if the president addresses it. >> we will see. >> real quick. >> a birthday boy and he will be ask asked. >> happy birkt day. >> you ought to get a day off. >> if you can't quit, take a vacation. it has been a tough run for jay.

>> no, yesterday he made it absu absurd. that was over the line. >> thank you. >> that was chuck's passing shot for the birthday boy. that was over the line. happy birthday. up next, more oklahoma and a community he represents in congress, a community that is now facing a long road back from monday's tornado. keep it here on "morning joe." vo: traveling you definitely end up meeting a lot more people but a friend under water is something completely different. i met a turtle friend today so, you don't get that very often. it seemed like it was more than happy to have us in his home.

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. >> with the shot there from moore, oklahoma as the scenes of def station just are indescribable. you can only look at the pictures to get a sense of what happened here. joining us now, tom who represents moore, oklahoma and tom, this is your town. it's not just a professional representation. you lived there. you know these streets and these homes that used to be there and you know the people. tell us your reflections and where to begin with recovery. >> it's devastating obviously.

you can first thank joe for being here and thank you for giving this attention. people respond and help and we are grateful. i went to plaza towers elementary with the dpof mor and the delegation and places i have been to dozens of times and it's unrecognizable. i could lose my bearings surrounded by the wreckage in streets i have walked if are decad decades. it's heart wrenching and our city manager were here in 99 in those positions. we have tremendous help from our neighbors. we know what we are doing. we will get through it. each day is a tough day, but easier than the day before. >> i understand you lived there for over 50 years? is. >> 53 years.

>> my question to you then would be especially as a representative from the area, what do you say to someone who lost everything? the concept of rebuilding from that magnitude of devastation. >> the first thing you do is just throw your arms around them and dpreef with them and pray with them. let them know you understand the depth of their loss and you will do everything to be supportive and helpful. that's what women do around here. they are really good at helping. i caught toby keith on a broadcast and he was talking about 20 years ago the people up the street were helping these people and vice-versa. it's that kind of community. that's what americans do. we work and we help the people that need help. >> how does this community rebuild without putting a safe room in every school and

possibly require it in every home? >> i think you are going to have that state and the new buildings do. this was built in 1966 so it's an old struck skpur still strong in the area. i think we will probably look into that going forward. something we want to do, but the facility was old. it's literally almost 50 years old. didn't have the same protections you would put in today. >> thank you so much for being with us as you know. our thoughts are with us guys and our prayers are with you guys. it has to be hard and the one thing we learned from the people of oklahoma, they always come back and come back stronger. >> thank you, tom. coming up, a congressional committee takes on apple's ceo tim cook for shielding the company from billions of dollars in this u.s. taxes.

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we arrived in front of the moore medical center hours after. >> the trucks are stacked one after another. >> as daylight broke, personal stories of terror ask survival fwan to unfold. >> there was a closet in my bedroom and my dog and i got into and laid down.

>> many residents came back to find a pile of debris where homes once stood. >> we are living in her bedroom. >> this 14-year-old came to salvage what was left of her 65-year-old grand mother's house. >>. >> i saw her house and i was crying really bad when i saw her house was gone. >> are judgen for came to uncover the essentials. >> i'm trying to see what i can save of clothes or anything. >> chris's house was damaged beyond recognition. >> i heard about it on the radio and i heard the school got flattened. the first thing i hoped it department hit exactly in this area, but when i realized it did, i thought i lost one. >> have you been able to salvage anything? >> pictures and clothes and all the rest i'm not worried about. it can be replaced.

>> that was lewis on the scene for us for the last couple of days. i want to bring in sarah and shape patterson. you lived one block over. have you been back to your home since the tornado struck? >> no. the first time i'm going to see it. >> me approximate your experience about what you did during the tornado and how you were getting information as it was happening. >> i was baby-sitting and had the news on over there. was listening and heart them say there was a tornado on the dpround ground in newcastle and i texted

the lady that i baby-sat if are and said can you please come home, i have to go get my kids from school. my kids went to plaza towers. they suffered so much devastation at that school. but somehow i made it to my kids in time. i got them. we pulled in the driveway at the house and the siren was going off for the second time. and then golf balls. i got everybody in the house. i told my kids get down in the hall way and take cover like you were doing at school. we got this big plush queen sized mattress and i yanked it off the bed and it over the kids and grabbed the dogs and we got under it. i laid myself over the kids.

i had the local news on my cell phone and listening to that to see how close it was. i knew it was coming. the last thing i heard before my cell feed went dead was get out of the way or get underground. this thing is huge and if you are above ground, you are not going to make it. all that's running through my head is dear god, lay your hands over me and my kids and protect us. at the same time i was thinking oh, my god, going die. we are not going to make it. >> but you did. your dog survived. >> he jumped out of my arms before the tornado hit and we obviously haven't seen him. i can only assume the worst. >> we have to go. we appreciate you sharing with

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