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learn more about these wholesome ingredients at purinaone.com right now on the man show, talk about a working dinner, president obama is breaking bread with our seven richest friends. >> and dick cheney is back and he has a partial defense of nsa spying. too bad we've heard this before. all this week maybe she should could predicted when the high court would finally rule on marriage equality. i know there are a lot of us out here who are tired of waiting. >> right now leaders of g-8 nations are gathering for dinner in northern ireland. president obama is there kicking off the two-day summit. the g-8 traditionally focuses on the global economy. but this year surveillance
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programs and the syrian civil war are dominating the meetings. allies want answers after nsa leaker, edward snowden revealed the uk monitored world leaders in the 2009 world summit and just hours ago, president obama met with russia president vladimir putin. syria is pissed that putin wants to arm the rebels. we expect to hear from obama and put thn hour. we start with nbc's peter alexander who covers the president, what's happening at the center? >> -- [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] >> that's right. [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] >>. [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] >>. [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] >> peter, hold on one second we're, you're coming in and out we're going to come back to you for a second. david nakamora is the reporter
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for the "washington post." the president's approval rating has dropped over the last few days, the why is ovts, a slew of bad news, the nsa scandal revelation, which people do not like. talk to me a little bit about how the white house goes forward from here. what are they going to do? surely they're going to respond to this in some way with some apologies, programs a privacy commission which ary would recommend. what do you think they're going to do? [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] >> all right. hold on one second, david, we're having some technological issues right now. ari, what do you think the president going to, do certainly they can't do nothing. the country is mad, the approval
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rate something dropping, but near not going to stop what they're doing with the nsa. they have to do some sort of listening to what's going on. if there was a terrorist attack and they weren't doing some listening, utilizing the technology, the nation would say, what are you doing. you're incompetent. >> i think what david was saying in front of the white house, what we've heard is this is a program that is legal and is necessary. we've talked about whether that is right. whether we should go this far. but whatever going to happen with disclosures are going to be in the spirit i think of defending this program. so we might see declassification around general threats. so that's where they wouldn't give us all the organizational details. they would say as we've heard in some examples that they believe there are certain plots, potential plots, meetings, you know, a plot is a broad word. >> you made an interesting point before when we were talking before the show that an ar-15 is legal. but should it be legal and that's sort of where are you in some of this stuff is legal. should it be? >> one of the things that the
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whole revelation has brought up is a discussion, not only on whether this program should be legal, but also whether we should even be, should the nation be up in arms about all of this. i personally think that what the nsa is doing is vital and it's necessary. and as we saw, with president, well then-candidate obama. you look at the statements he's made in the past, he was skeptical of these things. but what we've seen is a difference between being a candidate, who has maybe 80% of the information and the president who ends up getting -- >> i don't like that comparison that people are making it and you're making it in a very nuanced way. because a candidate or a senator has a certain amount of information, you start getting the intelligence briefings every day. you start to have the responsibility of $350 million people on your shoulders, you're going to behave and act differently.
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>> i think that's what jonathan was saying but on the law of it, the patriot act and the fisa amendments acts went too for. it opened us up to too much surveillance without legislation. where are we on surveillance in this country on barack obama, he voted for 2008 fisa amendments act. he said we should expand it. he voiced support for it at the time. and as for the patriot act, there were nuanced criticisms, barack obama as a senator and as a president, has never said i want repeal the patriot act. while i've been critical of some aspects of this and i think there's room for disagreement. i think it's more of a talking point to the right to make it sound like he's had a wholesale shift on surveillance. he hasn't. >> they want to make him look bad. >> do you think they want to make him look bad no matter what the facts are? >> absolutely. any person who was president and had the responsibility and had the daily intelligence briefings would do the exact same thing this will be an issue in 2016.
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but whoever becomes president will continue this program pretty much the same way that we've been doing. >> the other thing i want to bring up is that the discussion we have to have is on the issue of over classification. there are things that is been marked stamped classified. when you see it, why was this marked classified? why couldn't the american people know this? couldn't see this? so between talking about whether the nsa program is legal and necessary, we also need to have the bigger discussion about what are they classifying? why must it be classified? and why cath the american people know half the stuff that's over classified. >> that goes to trey's point about the ar-15s, or anything that's legal, but not great in your opinion, right? policy is always a question to some degree about what should be legal. right now we have a system with private contractors and over classification that is totally legal. there's no scandal there in the sense of the fact that we have systems that are continuing to do what they've been authorized
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to do by law. then you have to have the second question, which is should this be legal or can we make improvements here, the surveillance power, the information and ability to control it in the hands of private contractors. a lot of people were surprised through some of the disclosures, surprised to see it in this important way. that wow someone who no longer works for the c.i.a. has this kind of systems operational axis and all the other people who are claimed to be secrets, but maybe aren't secrets, maybe are over-classifying which hurts our protection of secrets this is one of those onions where as you peel it, you think we should have more oversight and maybe the blackwaters and booz allens of the world shouldn't have the final say on some of these questions. >> if over-classification has been the word of the year before now, then declassification will be the word of the year going forward. they've got to start making a case of why they're doing this,
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why they need all this power. saying here's a plot that we've thwarted here. and here's a plot that we've thwarted here, they've got to to sell the program to the american people i don't know if they have the credibility to make the case, they're going to have to start selling big stories, i don't mean in a fictional way, about what happened in the past. usually the declassification would happen years in the future. we've got to start letting people know this is what happened. so they can -- >> telling the story is, it's how you tell the story. what areal elements of the story. is telling the story going to put our people on the ground, our folks who do sort of the ugly work of keeping us safe, the black opes, the black arts of intel-gathering, will it put them in danger? will it put the country on less of a strong footing if all our business is out there in the
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street for everyone to read or everyone to know? >> it's not polite or pc to say but i do believe that there are some things that the intelligence community essentially has to do that we should not know about. >> i think that's absolutely true. but i think the idea that there should be some things secret and where we are over here that we didn't know what kind of general web surveillance going on. i think we're so far apart from it. on the point about p.r.i.s.m., it's not a revelation to terrorists that there's some monitoring of the internet going on. we had a former espionage director on the cycle talking about the fact that all the terrorists know, that's why the serious operational ones, like bin laden in his compound. >> he was not operational at that point he was a retired -- >> by the c.i.a.'s definition he was operational. in the sense that he had couriers, he was communicating with. but he wasn't doing it on gmail. so the idea that any discussion
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will reveal the sources and methods, i think we're way past that the question has to be, do we want courts involved in do we want individual oversight of some of these programs, or do we just trust, not only the government or i don't care if you love this president, but do we trust booz allen and blackwater and other companies you've only heard of, that only care about profits. i'm not saying that makes them bad. i'm saying their priorities are money, not you, not me, not our security or privacy. money is their bottom line. they're really bad at other things when they have to balance other values against their profits. >> i think that's the point we're going to work on getting peter and david back for you. more ahead after a little break. i want to make things more secure. [ whirring ] [ dog barks ] i want to treat more dogs. ♪ our business needs more cases. [ male announcer ] where do you want to take your business? i need help selling art. [ male announcer ] from broadband to web hosting to mobile apps, small business solutions from at&t
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we have peter and david back now. let's talk g-8. peter you started to talk about the dinner between president and putin tonight. what happens? >> we'll try to tell you to give you a better since while you guys were having that conversation. we're keeping track on our watches and the conversation taking place between vladimir putin and president obama is now pushing 105 minutes. they've been talking for more than an hour and a half. worth noting because the din itself was supposed to start about 15 minutes ago. as well, obviously one of the primary conversations in this din which is a more informal setting for all the g-8 leaders as we were noting the g-7 plus one during tonight's dinner meetings is going to focus on the support that russia has been giving to the syrian regime. david cameron wanted to leave the g-8 event by having a promoted a better plan for
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promoting these peace talks to take place in geneva. u.s.'s european allies is worried that if the rebels continue to lose, that it won't be a very effective gathering that takes place in geneva. that's one of the important things to look forward taking place tonight. he they wake up tomorrow they'll wrap things up in a couple of quick sessions, theek take the family photo with the g-8 leaders this has always been an event the president hasn't been a big fan of these g-8s, it was in 2009 that he wanted the g-8 and the g-20 squeezed together in one. you'll remember it didn't work out so well in 2010 when both of them too place back to back in toronto, canada. >> all right. peter, thanks so much for that report and thanks for sticking around with us. we have david nakamora with us. the president's approval rating has dropped, as people getting polled on the nsa situation, following a slew of bad news for the president, several bad
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weeks, what does the administration do going forward? >> i think you see an immediate reaction. even on his trip to the g-8 he's going to storm in germany, at 1/4 of chancellor merkel who has some questions about the nsa and the spying system we have in place. the president will make a big speech, 50th anniversary at a bridge in berlin. he's going to talk a lot about the freedom and the american values, i think that's going to be the start. i think back here domestically he's going to declassify some of these programs. the president says he welcomes a public debate about these programs. a lot of people say that's disingenuous. it's about drone policy and its failure to be able to convince congress to close guantanamo bay, all of these things that you saw on edward snowden. part 6 what motivated him. >> we're going to be discussing that throughout the hour. the other thing i want to ask you is as we see the president on the world stage is what is
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the reaction that you can gauge to this further engagement in syria. the president has walked a careful line, escalating to the point of having arms on the table potentially for at least intermediary attacks on the assad regime on syria. what can you tell us about all that? >> it seems right now the white house made that approach known last week. think it's sort of an abiding more time. this is a big step and other european allies are pushing to put more pressure on the assad regime. this is a way to do that. the president has talked only about small and light arms, some of the leading rebel groups, you need anti-tank missiles and other weapon systems that are more powerful. i don't know that the president wants to go there. they're not talking about a no fly zone. it's expensive and time-consuming and they've ruled out troops on the ground. this is a president who is trying to turn away from the middle east and put america's attention elsewhere. think you're unlikely to see us
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go much further and whether the russians are willing to take some of the public pressure from the other g-8 leaders and change their stance, i think it's not gb to happen soon. the president is going to be headed to russia this fall and i think you'll see it pick up again there, unfortunately. >> the president's approval ratings are at an all-time low. no the just at home but abroad, according to the gallup poll. the united states approval rate something 36%. down 11 points since the president took office in 2008 when the president spoke in berlin at the victory column, he had more than 200,000 people chanting his name. filling the streets to hear what he had to say. and on wednesday, he'll be at the other end of the june 17th strasa, the brandenburg gate giving another speech. how much love and affection will there be for president obama this-round five years later. >> it won't be what you saw four years ago that was an
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extraordinary show of his popularity at the time and signaled that he would be ushered into the white house. he has in large ways disappointed a lot of people. a lot of those polls, are driven by young people, a bit disillusioned. we're being told that you should still see a pretty big crowd. i think there's going to be a big crowd. people are going to want to hear what he says. before he was a symbol of something in america. his words, now he has a record to be judged against and i think you're seeing some of the push-back here at home nestically among young people who appreciate the president, but are worried that his actions don't meet his promises. the same thing going to happen in europe and next week we're going to africa, some of the same themes there. in europe, economic issues and recessi recession, there's concerns that american leadership has failed to produce the promises, certainly the president came in at a tough time economically around the whole world.
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i think he'll try to address that in his speech. >> the president is going to tanzania, south africa, senegal. he'll have the majority of his time spent abroad. if you look at the painting of obamas in washington, he's abroad, the negative space of the paint something back home. dos that mean he doesn't expect much to get done on immigration or anything else and he can afford to be away? >> i wouldn't read anything into that these are trips scheduled well in advance, they start talking about even as the president wins re-election, the g-8, he doesn't have any say on that. and the africa trip is something they wanted to do. they didn't do a big africa trip the first term. there's going to be a lot happening on immigration and in some ways the president has been monitoring that. he's trying to take a not too out-front position because some republicans have indicated they're willing to work with the democrats working on immigration. the president doesn't want to affect that tentative progress. but if things break down.
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he may have to weigh in on it. certainly white house staff is going to be working on that that's important. also the budget talks, serious budget agreements that have to be hashed out. no prok so far on that. they have to raise the debt ceiling later this fall and come to a spending agreement for next fall. so there's big spending policy initiatives going on back here. these trips take you away a bit. but the president will be seshl monit monitoring. >> good point, we won't overanalyze the calendar. up next the decisions we did and didn't get out of the supreme court. we've got the go-to guys who live and breathe this stuff. look what mommy is having. mommy's having a french fry. yes she is, yes she is. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. 100% vegetable juice,
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stories leading the news cycle, iran's new president calls the country's relationship with the united states a wound that has not healed. we see that one-on-one talks are only possible if there will never be more interference with iranian affairs, that's their perspective. and week two of jury selection begins in the george zimmerman trial. prosecutors face the tough task of finding a jury pool that's not been biased by all the pretrial publicity. last week the judge decided all jurors will be sequestered. 7-eleven is accused of serving up more than big gulps, federal agents raided stores amid allegations that store owners helped smuggle workers into the u.s. from pakistan. the high court this morning has manneded down five decisions including a ruling that arizona cannot require voters to provide proof of citizenship simply to vote by mail. but the justices are holding back for now on marriage equali equality, voting rights and affirmative action. we're joined now by nbc news
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justice correspondent, pete williams and todd goldstein from our partners at scotusblog. tom has argued 25 cases before the high court. thank you for being here. pete what can we learn about the business b.i.g. decisions we have remaining. if you look at the opinions writ thn term by the justices, there does seem to be a bit of an imbalance. scalia and kennedy coming in at about five authored opinions, while justices kagan and ginsberg have many more, approaching ten. do you think we're likely to see more opinions in the majority by those justice os who have spoken less thus far? >> you've asked the wrong guy, the world's leading expert is standing right next to me. >> the chief justice who hands out most of the assignments tries to balance all of the things among his colleagues, when you see that the most conservative justices, well the conservatives are going to get
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their licks in later over the next couple of weeks. >> the ohm thing i would add to that is if you count justice kennedy as one of the conservatives, which i think is fair, he may not write an opinion in a way that you would normally think of as conservative. for example, you know it's possible when the voting rights act decision comes out. they can either strike it down altogether or trim it back some. same with affirmative action, if justice kennedy writes the decisions have having to do with same-sex marriage, he may do so in a way that would please the advocates of same-sex marriage. i wouldn't say that you can assume what the outcome will be based on who's writing the opinion. >> another good example came today, when justice thomas wrote a major criminal defendant right's opinion. the court does have these odd alignments, you can't pre ticket that a given author will go in one direction or another. >> justice kennedy is the most compelling figure on the court to me.
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dom i want to go to you with this one. what have you learned about justice kennedy arguing before him? he's the decider, in so many ways he's sort of the heart of the court right now. >> he's our center vote. and the thing to keep in mind with him about the outcoming cases he's a big believer in individualialism. he doesn't think about people as members of the groups. same-sex case, may lead him to think of doma as a form of discrimination. but in affirmative action he's been very hostile to affirmative action, he doesn't think we should lump everybody together as african-american or hispanic. it can lead him in very different collections. >> the other argument we heard of course in oral arguments i think sent partly for the consideration of that justice is that states rights will be another way to come to this. and many people think of states rights, clearly the case of african-american rights in this
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country and in the doma, specific context, let states do what they do. in a lot of states like new york that could be good for gay marriage. >> so for example, is justice kennedy were to say that the defense of marriage act is unconstitutional, because states have the right to define marriage, including same-sex cups, that might lead him to say that california has the right to say the opposite under proposition 8 or the voting rights act intrudes on the rights of the state. you can get these incredible cross currents. >> you said something i thought was interesting. that clarence thomas wrote a majority opinion now. the justice' reputation is that during arguments, he doesn't say anything, he doesn't talk. my question is how many majority opinions has justice thomas authored during his tenure on the court? >> the same as everybody else. justice thomas is well known. what people think about him, the
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most is the fact that he doesn't speem at oral argument like you said. he's kite prolific, he puts out the same number of majority opinion and a lot of interesting other opinions, he's incredibly active on the court. >> we had a graphic up that showed there's 14 decisions to be handed down and not a whole lot of decision stays left. because the court hansds down decisions on mondays and thursdays. talk to me about the likelihood or possibility of the justices adding another decision day. so basically we could get decisions not at the end of june, but the beginning of july. >> the court hands down decisions whenever it says it's going to. we no that all the mondays in june are decision days. we hear bit by bit what other days they'll add. we found out there's going to be decisions this thursday. we found out about it last week. later in the week we'll find out what other decision days there will be. i can tell you having talked to
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officials here, that they don't know yet. it's not like they've got decision does go they're not done. they've certainly in draft form the majority opinions have to be finished early in june. then the dissents have to be finished a short time after that. so they know what the outcome of these cases is going to be. unless there's some big last-minute surprises, but they're still going back and forth. oh yeah. you say that? there's a lot of oh yeahs back and forth in terms of the majority opinion and the dissents, they're not done yet. nobody knows when they will be done. does it mean we might be back here on monday, july 1st it's possible. >> i want to ask you to look even further ahead. the court welcomed a new case that will reach next term on the area of housing discrimination, racial discrimination, something that's important to lot of us because people say now a days we have a lot of racism without
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racists or the technical term is disparity impact. the obama administration has invoked it in several lawsuits against people who provide loans or housing decisions. that looks like it might be up for some really close scrutiny at the court. can you tell us anything about the road ahead on that case? >> there are two race cases, that one and also a michigan case about whether you can effectively have a provision in the constitution that bans affirmative action and those two decisions really do chart a path forward probably in the conservative direction on racial issues. the obama administration has gone after lending through the federal fair housing act. saying that lenders, when they only offer loans are offering unintentional rate discrimination. it seems odd that we're going to have a big affirmative action decision this term and another affirmative action case next
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>> will smith getting serious, with ben vereen, it makes you want to cry. father's day was yesterday and many of you spent it with your dad. there's me and my kids. for many people, that relationship is fraught because dad wasn't around or let them do. our next guest and her husband spent seven years in 23 communities in both camden, nmg nj and philadelphia, interviewing 110 unwed fathers. their mission to challenge the notion that young, poor, inner city fathers are dead billion beat dads. with us now, harvard professor kathy eden. author of "doing the best i can." kathy, i have a sense that i don't have data to back it up. let me know what you found. >> in my generation, more men are staying with their family than in the previous generation. are young men telling each other, you got to stay at home, you can't just fly the coop?
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>> absolutely. it's not perfect. it's still tough to stay involved in you're an inner city dad and you don't make a lot of money and you're not married to the mom of your child. men are overwhelmingly saying hey, it's not okay to step off your responsibilities, he want to not just have the status of father. but i want to embrace the role and fatherhood is something they value, it's something they want to do. it's something they find meaning from and it's snl to their identity. >> among the men you've spoken to. when they do leave, why do they leave? >> it's complicated. sometimes it has to do with conflict with the mother. that's the most common reason. oftentimes, she'll take on a new partner and give that man the title of dad. sometimes that will push the bio dad out. that's fairly common. sometimes he's in jail. he has a substance abuse problem. he simply too ashamed to come around. most men don't give up, this father thirst that we describe in the book is often satisfied
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with subsequent child baring and men try again in a new relationship with a new child. >> kathy, this gets to something, toor me doesn't jibe here. here's a quote from your book. one man welcomed the news of his son's conception only to deny patternty once the child was done. by the time the boy's mother had relented and let him see his son. it was too late. by then the boy seemed unwilling to bond. but we might wonder how hard amin tried, given the potent distraction of another son, antoine, the baby boy he had just with a co-worker. could it be a new baby with a new woman crowds out men's sense of obligation to the child he already has. can you truly be a good father, an attentive father if you're splitting your time going from house to house to house to house, being a dad to all of these children? >> right, that's the irony of the book, right? men find it hard to be good
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fathers to all of their kids. they engage in serial selective parenting. rather than spread their efforts out across children they'll typically invest in one child and invest fairly intensely in that child. so when you ask dads, are you a good father, they'll say yeah, i'm doing the best i can. i'm a good dad, but that obscures are the kids that have been left behind. so i'll say yes and no. >> is being a good dad to one or two of his kids, but not necessarily to all of them. >> that's right. we talked about how some young relatively young kids, teenagers as young as 15, will have these kids, they may feel proud about it and that can be wonderful. and on the other hand some research might suggest it would be better for the kid to be raised by an older parent. where does the cultural leadership fit in here? is there a way that pressure would even be effective at trying to have kids sometimes wait?
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>> i agree with that. here's the problem. when you talk to a man in the iner city, they'll say when is a good time now a days? i know when the ideal is. i may never get to the ideal. here's an opportunity. usually these pregnancies are unplanned for me to embrace something positive. my world is full of negativity, one young man in the book, his brother was killed, his mother had cocaine habit he, at 15 found out he was going to become a father. his response, thank you, jesus, was an emblem of his desire to embrace something positive. and to do something good. so it's a complex story. and -- >> the title refers to an interesting. doing the best i can, refers to an interesting adaptation, surprising but i think positive that lot of these working-class men are not saying, i have to provide because they can't. they're doing the best they can. they respond emotionally. zeroing in on the child spending
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that time when they don't have the money to spend on them. which is a surprising adaptation, so much of the fatherhood is about providing, if you don't have that, then it's a positive adaptation, isn't it? >> since the '70s, american men have gotten more and more engaged in with their kids. they spend more time on housework, they change diapers, so the softer side of fatherhood is a cultural wide phenomenon. but poor men, inner city men seem to have attached to the idea in spades, they really elevate the softer side of fatherhood. they say i'm not just a paycheck and i probably can't be a pay clek, i'm a parent. in some ways the dads want to be more like moms, but the problem is it forces the mom to take on the hard jobs. >> breaking down the stereotypes there, i like that. thank you very much, kathy. up next, we talk about the relationship between fathers and kids. let's talk about sibling
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>>. >> translator: we also spoke about problem spots regarding syria. [ speaking russian ] >> translator: and of course our opinions -- >> we are listening to comments made just moments ago, by vladimir putin, they're accompanied by president obama. speaking about a range of issues including recent escalation of
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syria, where the united states has committeded to providing some for. vladimir putin expressing disagreement on that although the general statement that both countries condemning violence. we'll keep listening here. >> translator: i hope that after the elections in iran there will be new opportunities to solve the iranian nuclear problem. and we'll be trying to do that bilaterally and in the negotiations process. the problem of north korea and we agreed to emphasize our interaction on all the directions.
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and i'm very grateful to the u.s. president for the detailed discussion and for the frank exchange of opinions on this matter. >> well i have had a very useful conversation with president putin and i began by thanking him again for the cooperation that they provided in dealing with the tragedy. of the bombing of the boston marathon. we have a shared interest in countering terrorist violence and we are continuing to strengthen our cooperation on this issue including as we welcome russia hosting the winter olympics in sochi.
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>> as president putin indicated, we have extensively discussed how we can further deepen our economic and commercial relationships. with russian ascension to the wto, the removal -- i think we're poised to increase both trade and investment between our two countries and that can create jobs and business opportunities both for russians and americans.
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>> our discussions on north korea and iran were very productive. and we both agreed that -- the north korean issue and in iran, we both accept expressed cautious optimism that with a new election there, we may be able to move forward on a dialogue that allows us to resolve the problems with iran's nuclear program.
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>> and with respect to syria, we do have differing perspectives on the problem, but we share an interest in reducing the violence, securing chemical weapons and insuring that they're neither used or are they subject to proliferation, and that we want to try to resolve the issue through political means, if possible possible. so we will instruct our team to continue to work on the potential of a geneva follow-up to the first meeting.
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>> and one of the outcomes of this meeting is that we'll be signing here the continuation of the cooperation that was first established through the luber program to counter potential threats of proliferation. and to enhance nuclear security. >> we have been listening to vladimir putin and barack obama speaking in belfast just moments ago on the agenda, they discussed continuing collaboration on nonproliferation and combating nuclear weapons around the world, as well as the ongoing tensions in syria. the president characterizing it as a useful conversation. we'll have more on that and more
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all right. that does it for the man show. now it's time for a real man, martin bashir. >> thank you, toure. good afternoon, it's monday, june 17th. and the presidents of russia and the united states have just finished their meeting, and on this they can agree, the violence in syria must end. ♪ >> president obama arrives in ireland. >> dominant issue of the summit is going to be syria. >> a line's been crossed. >> another war in the middle east. this time they're going to love
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