good morning. i'm chris jansing. president obama this morning is under roux nuenewed attack f republicans even though he is facing a decision about enormous crisis in syria and hitting the road again right now to talk about the economy. let's start with the threats. republicans have spent the summer threatening a government shutdown when they go back to washington. 80 of the most conservative house republicans have sent a letter to speaker boehner urging him to defund obama care. which, in the process, could bring the wheels of government to a screeching halt. >> and then, finally, now what we have got is republicans talking about the idea that they would shut down the government, bad for the economy, bad for not just people who work for the government, but all of the contractors who -- and the

defense folks and everybody who is impacted by the services that they receive from the federal government, we should shut that down because republicans after having taken 40 votes to try to get rid of obama care see this as their last gasp. >> now a few republicans are even going a step further. past shutting the government down and defunding obama care. they are talking about impeachment. here is senator tom coburn at a town hall meeting this week. >> those are serious things but we are at a serious time and i don't have the legal background to know if that rises in high crimes and misdemeanors but i think they are getting perilously close. barack obama is a friend of mine and became my friend in the senate, but that does not mean i agree in any way with what he is

doing or how he is doing it. i, quite frankly, think he is in a difficult position he has put himself in and if it continues, i think we are going to have another constitutional crisis in our country in terms of the presidency. >> i want to bring in "the washington post" jackie kucinich and host of post tv in play. matt cooper is editor of the national journal daily. good morning. >> good morning. >> thanks. >> let's start with tom coburn saying the president is close to impeachment. this is taking things to another level. >> chris, you know, as you heard in the clip, tom coburn is a friend of president obama so they go back a long way in the senate. and, you know, he has been kind of conciliatory on a lot of budget issues and been on bipartisan groups to come up with a budget deal and taking flak from his right for being open to the idea of raising taxes under some circumstances. and so maybe it's not entirely surprising that he would, you

know, venture into this impeachment area. but if you see the whole thing, he didn't really -- you know, he kind of walked it back a little. so i'm not sure this is really going anywhere but i think you're right. the fact they are even mentioning it is even amazing. >> he is not alone, jackie. the third time this week another congressman said he talked to lawyers and blake farrenholtz say they have the votes in the house. impeach for what? i haven't heard them say this is the case we are making but isn't this something reserved for the most serious offenses? >> you've heard this ever since the president came into office with the whole birth certificate thing. no one has really given a reason and no one has given a certain charge. until there is some kind of legal basis that they can present, i don't know that this is more than just talk that fires up a certain part of the republican base. >> i want to talk about the other battle. it also fires up the base. that is shutting down the

government over defending obama care. senator mike lee says this is a false narrative but, matt, some of the most conservative house members are asking for no spending bills to go forward with obama care funding in them. if it has a component of obama care, it doesn't go forward, right? >> we are back to this again, chris. we have been in this drama since the republicans took over the house in 2011 and i think we are going to keep going through it in one form or another until the end of president obama's second term. you know, they have decided that or at least a number of republicans have decided that using, shutting down the government is an effective tool, it fires up their base, it seems as a sign of principle, rather than madness. they are going to keep doing it and we will probably come up with some compromise at the last minute that spares us all, but it is pretty wild. >> the president does say he has been talking to republicans privately and privately a lot of them agree with him that a shutdown isn't an option.

>> and, by the way, sometimes they say to me privately i agree with you. but i'm worried about a primary from, you know, somebody in the tea party back in my district, or i'm worried about what rush limbaugh going to say about me on the radio. i can't force these folks to do what is right for the american people. >> i guess the question is, jackie, are enough of them worried enough about, say, a primary challenge from the tea party, that this could be a real problem? >> i think as a member-by-member question, but there is also a new polling that came out this week from david winston. he is a pollster the house republicans use a lot. saying this government shut down is unpopular with republicans and it won't be good for house republicans if this happens that, you know, their own people don't really like this idea. it's unpopular. so i think once you hear that

ground swell, i don't think it's going to happen either but we might be to the brink because that is what has happened over and over again. >> i want to bring in congresswoman carolyn maloney from new york. politico has a piece that says house democrats are secretly hoping for a shutdown because they think it helps them and andrew myers says there are no if's, and's or but's about it, it would be a boom to us. is the government going to shut down? >> i certainly hope not. there was a economic indicators fell the last time the government shut down and we are recovering under president obama and we have added 2 million new jobs and that is double what was added under the prior administration over eight years. the economy has improved. why in the world would we want to stop it? when they call it obama care, this is really the affordable care act that was passed by the united states congress, the

house and the senate signed into law and supported by the majority of people. 5 million more people voted for president obama. there's a way to change the law. the constitution tells us how to do it. you do it with votes, you don't do it by holding people hostage or the whole government hostage in that way can hurt our over overall economic and hurt american families. >> it seems to be the whole part of the atmosphere. we have been hearing a lot especially as republicans have gone home to their home districts. >> it's irresponsible. >> let me ask you did senator coburn's comments. what do you make of these calls? >> i think they are inflammatory, irresponsible, and outrageous. who needs republicans with friends like this? he says he's a friend. how much after friend is he? it's ridiculous, in my opinion. we have clear guidelines in the constitution. the president was overwhelmingly

re-elected. laws have been passed with mantle of votes in both houses. if they want to change something, can you go to the american people and try to get the votes to make it happen. >> we were talking before we went on the air about what the president is trying to do which is change the way we look at college education. you say you're hearing a lot about that from your constituents. how does something like that get done with the atmosphere where you have friends of president talking about impeachment? >> well, i applaud the president on this important initiative and i applaud him for trying. he will need congressional support to pass the changes he wants. he has called on the secretary of education to come out on a rating system how colleges are performing so students and their parents can make informed decisions and rating them on whether or not they educate people and keep college affordable. we know the average rate in new york, my home state, is 26,000

in college debt. we now know -- i find this really remarkable -- the amount of student debt is higher than credit card debt and mortgage debt in our country. but i have people working for me that have over a hundred thousand dollars in college debt. and many people cannot even find jobs. so holding colleges and universities accountable that they are, in fact, educating the students and helping them find jobs which is important for our overall economy and, obviously, for the students themselves. i think it's an innovative approach and rewarding people who do a good job as opposed to to spreading money out willy-nilly. we spent $150 billion a year in student aid that goes directly to the universities tied to the student. this will change it and tie it to performance, to outcome. and if you look at the numbers over the last 30 years, the

income of average families has gone up 15%. yet the cost of a college education has gone up 250%. >> the president was trying to get this message out yesterday, he was heckled by two women who held up a sign that said "free bradley manning." we heard from manning's lawyers yesterday that he wants to live out his liven as a woman and undergo hoe money therapy while in prison and be called chelsea. >> clearly private manning has problems and challenges. i believe the 35-year sentence is extremely heavy. he will be available for parole after a certain number of years in federal prison. but given the 16 trillion dollar debt the taxpayers and my constituents are setting, this is not a priority i'm hearing about from my constituents.

they are concerned about education. they are concerned about college debt and they are concerned about homeland security and they -- and healthy and the availability of affordable health care. and they support -- >> congresswoman maloney, good to have you here in the studio. that for coming here. >> good to see. thank you for having me. jackie and matt, we saw a sea change on gay marriage but we are now looking at something that is very different here. jackie, the army has said it doesn't provide hormones for a sexual transformation, but courts around the country have ruled that hormone therapy for inmates can be a legitimate arbitrarily refusing them can be a ban on cruel and unusual punishment. i guess the question will there be pressure on the pentagon to look at this seriously and what happens make some changes? yeah, we haven't seen how military prisons will react to this yet. some prisons do deny the treatment to inmates in their

systems. but this issue of fair treatment of transgender has been something thrust into the spotlight this year and over the past couple of years. not only how they are dealt with in prison but in work places and in schools. this isn't just another issue that brings a spotlight on something that a lot of agencies on lots of different levels are trying to work out. >> manning has already written to president obama asking for a pardon. the white house said, as it says whenever it is asked about these things, that it will consider it. they do consider all pardons. there are a lot of people on both sides of this issue and whether or not, as we just heard from congresswoman maloney, 35 years is too much. maybe not a pardon and maybe a reduction in sentence? >> well, it's plausible, chris, but this president has been very restrained about giving out pardons or commutations in general, let alone in a hot

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this could be san diego mayor bob filner's last day in office. he is expected to resign today after 16 women accused him of sexual harassment.

the resignation part of deal that the mayor struck with the city that sent him to therapy for a couple of weeks. he has apologized for his behavior. joining me from san diego with the latest is nbc news joe fryer. joe, good morning. the mayor filner lawyers said there will be a public announcement today following that session. what will happen? >> reporter: we have to see what happens. we know it's a closed door session with the city council this afternoon. all signs indicate that filner's resignation is part of that deal. the big question is really what is the mayor getting in return some some speculate it could be have financial help with legal fees or settlements in the future. that may not sit well with everybody on the city council and may not sit well with everyone in the public so that could be a sticking point when the city council votes on this this afternoon and filner's resignation would be tied to approval of that deal so we will have to wait and see what

happens. the public will get a chance to speak out about this before the city council goes into the private session this afternoon. >> as i've been following this story in the san diego newspaper, one of the big concerns that i've been reading about is business leaders who say, look, we need somebody leading this city. so what happens next? is there a special election? >> reporter: yeah, there is a special election. they have 90 days to have the special election so the ball will probably get rolling as soon as tomorrow if the resignation does, in fact, happen today. a lot of the people who have been playing a role in the mediation this week, some of them are considered possible candidates in running for mayor so they all have a stake in this as well. >> super lawyer, if we will call her that, gloria allred, how does she play in this. >> reporter: she was a part of the mediation on monday. she held a news conference yesterday and said she does not know the details of the deal but she spoke out and she is concerned that any deal for

mayor filner's resignation would come with money from the taxpayer to help with legal costs. she spoke out against that. she does not think san diego taxpayers should foot the bill for any of mayor filner's legal bills so we will see what happens. >> joe fryer, thank you. it almost seems as though the entire country is buzzing about antoinette tuft who talked down a gunman outside an atlanta school. from "the washington post," quote, thanks to her, this time, there will be no funerals with tiny caskets, no candle light vigils and no families broken by grief. her remarkable actions prompting a call from president obama last night. >> i appreciate you too but i learned from the best. the best president in the world. no. that's me. you can't get any better than when have you a great leader in front of you.

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exactly five years after he was nominated assess president obama's reasoning mate, joe biden steps into the 2016 spotlight in his hometown this afternoon. biden allies tell "the wall street journal" he can win the

2016 nomination even if hillary clinton decides to get in the race. on the republican side, chris christie is grabbing a lot of 2016 headlines and, this morning, that is the top story on politico. so with no incumbent, so much happening. joining us is chris covinas and joe watkins, former aide to president bush 41. good morning, guys. >> good morning, chris. >> the rnc puts out a press release this morning, chris, about the president and his bus tour but here is the headline. biden is laying the groundwork for obama's third term. is that the strategy? if so, is this that they are worried about him as well as hillary clinton. >> i doubt very much that is the strategy. groundwork three years ahead doesn't usually lead to very good groundwork. i mean, just not the way politics work. that being said, i think it's kind of, you know, funny or

desperate, i guess choose which one you want that the rnc would focus on that. the reality is the republicans as everyone knows and we have said it again and again is a party dined of in disarray. with when it comes to, i think, secretary clinton they see a formidable candidate and vice president biden has a great ability to connect. those are formidable candidates for whoever the republican nominee may end up being. >> we have talked a lot about hillary but here is what joe biden supporters say he is a long time fighter for the middle class and help brokered grand bargain to avoid the fiscal cliff and would he be a formidable candidate? >> no doubt. joe biden would be a formidable candidate. >> the polls this early, what are they? >> of course. early on, it's still early. lots and lots of time for those poll numbers to change. in the meantime, he ought to be advising the president not do the bus tour so much because the

president is a powerful speaker and persuasive speaker but rather to try to get some things done. biden's best help that the president accomplishes something in the second term and do like lyndon johnson did. he didn't do a bus tour complaining the republicans weren't helping in '64. instead went out and found republicans to help him. >> where is the president going to find republicans help him when they are calling for an impeachment? >> some would work to fix obama care and get college students a better deal with regards to tuition and to provide a clearer path. >> hey, joe, can you -- if there are republicans that are willing to work with the president, can you release those names? i think the american people would love to hear them. >> it's really for the president to do. lyndon johnson didn't sit back in his oval office saying come to me. he found the republicans to help he him get the civil rights bill

pushed in '64 and voting rights act passed in '65. >> we are in 2013. the president has invited them to the white house and to dinner. >> he has to do more than that. he has got to do some serious work. >> you cannot negotiate, joe, you can't negotiate with another side that is not willing to give. not only that, you can't negotiate -- >> ronald reagan and bill clinton did. >> you can't negotiate with another side where literally friends of you are calling in terms of senator coburn calling for your potential impeachment. i agree with you, the president reaching out is a great thing and working with republicans is a good thing but let's be honest about who -- >> great presidents are thick-skinned. you've been called names and i have been called names. people are saying things about each of us but leadership is reaching on the other side to get something concrete done for

people who unemployed and want immigration passed. >> let's talk about the republican side. chris, i find it interesting you don't hear a lot of democrats attacking chris christie and you could make the argument that he may be the most formidable candidate although i'm not how sure and easy it is for him to get through the primaries. is chris christie a target waiting for an arrow? >> you hit it right on the head. at the end of the day, that race is more or less over in new jersey. he will probably win re-election but he is clearing gearing up for a presidential run. his threat isn't from democrats but from republicans like senator cruz and others who think he is too moderate and who are going to attack him at will in that primary. from the democrats' perspective just sit back because christie is going to find out just like romney and others did, if you come across as trying to be a moderate you're going to be pushed radically to the right and that is going to hurt you

each if you end up getting through the nomination process. >> that is the question for the republicans. isn't it, joe? can someone who is more moderate like chris christie get through the primary process? >> chris christie has a great team. mike and a bunch of others working with him. what i like about chris christie is the fact that he is honest. he is willing to say what is right when it's right. and i think americans really respect that. he has taken what looks like chances politically to do the right thing and it's paid off in a big way and i think pay off for him in a big way if he chooses to run for the presidency. to be candid and be himself and not pander to anybody but pander only to the truth. if he does that, i think it's never easy for anybody to ascend as the party's nominee but if he remains true to himself he has a great shot to win that nomination. >> good to see you guys. thanks. >> thanks. >> thanks. checking the news feed. senior white house administration official says the

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over again. the frustration. i think the white house has to feel. carolyn maloney was here earlier and saying my constituents with talking to me about the crush debt of college loans but already we are seeing support for it split along party lines. how do you get this done? >> first of all, this is one of the striking things that i learned in the white house which is that the conversation in washington is often completely different than the conversation people are having around their kitchen tables. out in the country, issues like this, how do we afford college for our kids is front and center. >> aren't the republicans hearing that in their districts too, david? >> i think they are, but understand that because of the nature of our redistricting system, many rpeds come from districts where the only challenge they will ever face is from the right. and so the most strident voices in that party are the ones that are being heard. i think the only thing the president can do is bring the american people into the conversation as he is doing and try and apply that pressure and

it's going to be important in this budget debate that is coming up, because there are real priorities at stake that will map the future of our economy and the future of the country. >> how do you do that? we were just talking to our strategist joe watkins was making the point. he said, listen, the president needs to be more like lyndon johnson and get out there and reach out. my question was can you reach out to people who are talking about impeaching you but somebody that to take the lead. how does he lead? i. i'll say two things about what joe said. first of all, if you think back to 1964, president johnson not only had mantle in both houses, but he had a bunch of moderate republicans to work with led by everitt dirkson who was from illinois pop not that big block of moderates any more. most have been defeated. we have a more polarized congress. it's hard to find partners. i remember when ewe were in the white house and sitting and talking to republicans about health care the president would say we agree on 99% of this, can we move forward?

the republican senator said not unless you can find ten others because i can't step out there on my own. there is a rain of terror in the republican party that militates against cooperation and something we have to defeat. now, in terms of the fall, i think the republican party also recognizes they are trade treading low right now. the republican party at an all-time low because the american people are tired of obstructionism. regardless of what they are hearing in the district the party as a whole is taking a hit. so the leaders of party have to take control of it and cry to overcome those strident voices in their partiship it's very tough. >> we have seen the picture of john boehner. he is going to help avoid a government shutdown? >> that is going to be the test. so far what the speaker has done is basically tried to modify those voices and navigate around them but in a polite way so as to keep his speakership. the question is would he be

willing to risk his speakership? on most of these questions, if you put them on the floor of the house, there would be a majority for common sense way forward. the reason we don't get that is because he won't put anything on the floor unless a majority of republicans agree to it and as you know, there's a group of republicans in the house who won't agree to anything. >> part of the reason the president is out there, he does believe, correct me if i'm wrong, that if you get people fired up about something and talking to their members of congress, that does help to get things done. if the polls start to move, it helps to get things done. having said that, there has been looven attenti a lot of attention about hillary clinton and joe biden already three years in advance. is that hurting his ability to get his message out there? in a sense he is fighting against members of his own party and the attention they are getting as well as the republicans? >> only in the sense it takes up time on shows like yours. i don't think people are sitting around their kitchen table

speculating about the 2016 election. >> you don't think they are talking about hillary? >> they may be about hillary but i don't think the elections just yet. their concerns are their own lives, the flatness of their paychecks. the prospects for their kids. they want to see action help them help their children. i think he is speaking to the american people, whether the congress is hearing the american people is another matter. >> were you surprised to hear tom coburn, who calls himself a friend of the president. >> yes. >> in the time they were in the senate were you surprised to hear him talking about impeachment? >> can you imagine when he talks about people he doesn't like? this is his friend. i think it is absurd. earlier he is speak constitutional authority of a trained obstetrician which is what he is. there is no constitutional premise for that. that is pandering to the base and it was disappointing. in many instances, coburn has been a little bit more rational,

if not on policy, then on tone. this, i think, was an aberration but a sdishing one. >> without getting ahead too much to 2016 rand paul says he disagrees with the rnc and their fight over the debates and moderator on the debates on hillary clinton's documentary. you've been involved in this and know how important the debates are. how important are they? if you were in the same position would you be doing the same thing? >> not surprising to me that paul disagreed because the whole idea here, i think on the part of the leadership is to cut down the number of debates. it was the debates in 2012 that propelled newt gingrich forward and santorum forward and gave the party to the right. they want as few debates as they can have but that means cutting out rand paul and ted cruz and others who might benefit from those debates. this is a move by the party establishment to shove the right off the stage and i think paul

sensed that and that is why he said what he said. >> david axelrod, great to have you on the program. >> nice to be here. >> today's tweet of the day comes from first lady michelle obama who took part in throwback thursday. kind of a fun #where people post past photos of themselves. the first lady tweeted out hur college graduation photo and says let's make sure every kid in america has a great shot at education. #, make college affordable, #, throwbackthursday. humans. even when we cross our "ts" and dot our "i's", we still run into problems. that's why liberty mutual insurance offers accident forgiveness with our auto policies.

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expect it to be a remarkable site on the washington mall tomorrow. 100,000 people are expected to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the march on washington. earlier today on the daily rundown, congressional delegate eleanor holmes in order toon told my colleague chuck todd what it was like to stand in that crowd in 1963.

>> 1963 was the high pie of the civil rights movement in many ways. having worked on the staff of the march, being young and foolish, i expected a whole lot of people to come but nobody knew how many would come. what was really challenging was the unprecedented nature of the march. there had never been a mass march much less in the united states. if people ask me what do you remember most, frankly it was not necessarily the speeches. each speech seemed to be more brilliant than the next. what i remember, tlg as a native washingtonian is standing at the monument and looking out from the monument and not being able to see the last person. there were so many people there. that was our hope. that was our dream. >> wow. amazing. be sure to tune into msnbc tomorrow. we will have full coverage of the anniversary march. i was hearing them talking this

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