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have, the title of dad has always been the best. ken norton, passed away yesterday at the age of 70. thanks for watching. ed schultz is next be. good evening, americans. welcome to the ed show live from new york. let's get to work. ♪ >> the reality that american poor people, not malnourishemal eat too much food. >> 49 million americans struggle to put food on the table every day. >> it will consider a bill that will cut food stamps, s.n.a.p., by $40 billion. >> i understand the frustration. >> they want to gouge deeply into the most important successful antihunger program. >> obama's policies resulted in a lot more people being on food
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stamps. >> encouraging parasites. >> this is the most effective food stamp president in american history. >> can't you see that this is viewed as a minimum as insulting to all americans but particularly to black americans? >> no. i don't see that. >> they want to take food out of the mouths of hungry men, women and children all over america. >> i understand people's frustration. i really do. ♪ don't you forget about me >> my goal on this program tonight is to reach out and hopefully touch you in your living room and appeal to your very best sensibilities and your compassion. we as americans, we're pretty much a compassionate country,
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compassionate society. something bad happens to your next door neighbor, are you there, in a conversation, in some way you feel i can't believe that happened to charlie. that kind of attitude. you know what? in congress they don't have that attitude. they're not like your next door neighbor, vice versa. this is a live picture right now on the house floor. there is a very serious debate taking place. at this hour your elected representatives are debating to cut a food stamp bill known as s.n.a.p. by a whopping $40 billion over the next ten years. for the republicans this is their best issue. they're expected to vote within the next hour. we'll bring it to you live here on "the ed show" because i want everybody who watch this is program to make sure that they consume exactly what the republicans are focused on.
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now, if this bill passes, it will cut out $4 billion a year out of the food stamp program, the most vulnerable americans. if republicans go along with these cuts, 3.8 million americans would lose their food assistance. assistance. not gravy train, just assistance. a little bit. democrats went to the firewall on the house floor today and they had no problem calling out republicans on their heartless cuts. >> it makes no economic sense either to cut $40 billion from food stamps for the poor while preserving $90 billion in crop insurance for the wealthy. >> it is just an unconscionable that they would think somehow this is the roads to prosperity, that you get to the road by prosperity by attacking the most vulnerable in our society. >> the absolute insult of state like texas that is pros pus, you
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give them the instruction to cut people off of food stamps and give them a bonus, a bonus for hurting people and taking their life away. >> mr. speaker. mr. speaker. call to order, please. >> vote down this. >> gentle lady's time expired. >> i yield back. >> let's be fair. both sides of the story here. uncut tape. meanwhile, republicans say cutting food stamps leads to self reliance. >> there is dignity in work. i am supporting this bill today because i want to see as i know all of us do, more success stories like sherry's and the reforms made by this bill will put people on the path to self sufficiency and independence. >> oh, yeah, we don't have any jobs for you, but we just know you will be on the path to self sufficiency. let me give you the numbers. in order to qualify for food stamps, do you know what the
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numbers are? do you know how low the numbers are? as an individual, we're talking 14 grand a year or less. now, if you take $14,532 and you divide it into 40-hour week, 2,080 hours a year, that comes to a whopping $6.73 an hour. the republicans think if you are a single mom making $6.73 an hour, you are making too damn much and you should see your assistance cut. meanwhile, members of the congress who are voting on these cuts, you know that they make? they make $174,000 a year, and this is the disconnect. they are out of touch with how a lot of americans live and they don't give a damn. the average net wealth of a member of the united states congress is over $900,000.
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put that kind of money in the market and see what kind of return you get. these are the people who are deciding if the poor people can eat. isn't it really unbelievable, the selfishness in america right now? wait a minute. i said at the top of the broadcast we're a compass at country, a compassionate family of american citizens that love to reach out and touch one another. members of congress are pretty well off. seldom do you hear them complaining about money. they can vote themselves a raise. they can increase their pension. they can increase their health care benefit. can you do that? not this guy. he doesn't think -- he doesn't think he makes enough. i am talking about good old phil from the state of georgia. he is jealous of the people that make more than he does and he is not happy with $172,000 a year. he recently said on capitol hill
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that aides, they may be 33 years old, but not making a lot of money, but in a few years they can just go down the street to k street and they can make over 500 grand a year. meanwhile, he is stuck here making $172,000 a year. now, is that a twisted center mindset or what? cry me a river, mr. gingry. a lot of people in america i think would love to have this guy's check every two weeks. the average individual income in this country is $40,000 a year. so if you make 20 bucks an hour and you make 40 grand a year, are you pretty normal. that's the start of the middle class right there. his individual income puts him in the 98th percentile of individual income in this country. he is a top 2%er, and he doesn't think he has it good enough. overall, we're told he is worth
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between 3 and $7 million. this guy is unbelievable and he is a microcosm of what the republican party is all about. he is your typical anti-obama care hating machine. he wants the food stamps cut. in fact, earlier this year he was the only member of the georgia delegation to vote against the farm bill because the food stamp cuts, you know what, they didn't go far enough. we'll see how this poor billionaire votes on taking food away from the poor people that is supposed to happen in our hour. this is one example of how out of touch the members of congress are with the american people. it is a symptom of a greater sickness. the first thing is we're talking about a select society that can vote themselves a raise. they can increase their pension. they can increase their health care benefits. you cannot do that unless you own the company. we have a society that can
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protect them. it used to be the people a's house. not anymore. it is the house of the 1%. you know what at the are do as they are doing in that building right now? they are voting to take away from the most vulnerable americans, and they don't think they make enough. you want to know why this country is screwed up and why there is so much negativity and why we can't get anything done? the realism isn't there anymore. we have a true disconnect between the select society making all the laws, and the people who have to live with them. the 1% is picking on the most vulnerable. they're all christians, aren't they? they love to talk about god coming into their life. i mean, if you listen to michele bachmann just a few weeks ago. she is guided by the lord. in fact, there is a bunch of christian coalition outfits that make sure that the republicans have plenty of money in their next election cycle. is it christian to do this?
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you know what this mindset, this type of activity brings us? this. what i talk about all the time. the vulture chart. these kinds of votes right now bring us to a country like this. do you think that's fair? do you think it is fair? that people who are making less than $14,000 a year should have their assistance cut? is that the sensibility i was asking about at the top of the show? is that as good as we can be as americans? this vulture chart represents not only an income gap, it represents a mindset in the united states congress by the select society that can protect their ass and their back side. and today's vote to go after people on food stamps is exactly exemplifying what this chart is all about. i am ashamed. we need to speak up.
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this is wrong. this is morally wrong. christians don't do this. the only reason i throw fate into this is because there are so many conservative lawmakers that love to play the faith card. they love to talk about morality. what is moral about this vote? get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question. do republicans have any idea how average americans live? text a for yes or b for no. go to our blog and light up the twitter world if you think i am wrong. you are really off base. come on. give it to me. tell me i am wrong on this. i am not. i am 100% right. i am with conviction spot on on this story. it should be the lead story everywhere in my opinion if we give a damn about income
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inequality in this country, if we are the compassionate country we claim to be. this is story number one. i think story number two is how twisted eric cantor is because it was eric cantor that stood up in a town hall meeting when a woman had a story about health care and he told her to go get charity. i remember that. there is a lot of charitable organizations that you can go to if you are sick. show me some charity tonight. vote no on this. you as a citizen don't forget how they vote. let's bring in the congresswoman of illinois and former michigan governor jennifer grand hall. great to have you with us tonight. >> thank you. >> please respond to eric cantor's claim this bill will lead to self reliance. he just said that. >> it is so painful, even to respond to that kind of
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demonizing of people who need some help over a hump. most people, the average is less than a year on the s.n.a.p. program, and i don't understand eric cantor. be willing to take food out of the mouths of hungry children. almost half of the s.n.a.p. recipients are children. are they supposed to go to work? are the mothers of an infant supposed to go to work and by the way there are strict work requirements already built into the program. i tell you, i did the s.n.a.p. program for a week, lived on $4.50 a day. it is not easy to do. i tell you, eric cantor, all of my colleagues who do go to church on sunday or synagogue on saturday or mosque on friday, all the religions and you brought it up are urging a no
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vote to cut the s.n.a.p. program. they're urging the members of congress to vote yes. this is a come palgs at country. >> this generates about $1.70 in economic activity, so even from an economic point of view this is a really good program. >> jennifer, you're the former governor of michigan. what will this do to people in metropolitan areas who are struggling? >> there is no question about what it would do, ed. i just want to give you a standing o fort starting this program so strong. i think that we should be on this program challenging every single republican member of the house who votes yes to cut this, to go on that food stamp challenge and to try to live on $4.50 a day. you raise the issue of morality. in the 25th chapter of matthew the lord says whatsoever you do
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unto the least of these you do unto me. i would like to see these republicans looking at their pastor or at their house of worship on friday, on sunday, and say, yes, i served the lord by cutting poor people off, and ask this new pope all approximate serving the poor. this is more than an outrage. this is a moral issue. who are we as a nation, the richest nation on the face of the earth to cut 4 to 6 million people the most vulnerable off of food, shame on us. >> congresswoman, what do you make of phil gingrey's comments? does he represent a mindset in congress? do most people in congress think they are under paid when the rest of the country is struggling in many respects? >> isn't that stunning?
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$174,000 a year, and he thinks he needs to make more money. >> that's the top 2% complaining about the income. >> he is a doctor. children who can't get the nutrition, seniors who can't eat properly, and by the way, 7% of those who are on the s.n.a.p. program are military veterans. this is not healthy for our country. >> how about we support the troops. >> not always. >> looking down the road, is this going to be the republicans shooting themselves in the foot? this is just the war on women and the attack on labor, and now picking on the poor. that's exactly what this is. this is picking on the most vulnerable in our society and let's keep in mind politically speaking the least powerful group in america, too. >> think about this. 48% of households headed by
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women, 48% of single mothers who have young children at home are now living in poverty in america. 48%. so if you don't think this is part of or they don't think this is part of a war on women and on children, they have something else coming. i can tell you the single moms are not interested in the arguments. they want to put food on the table. this is a pragmatic issue for people who want to survive. anybody that thinks that it is cutting food stamps is going to create jobs and cause people to be more self sufficient when there is only one job for every three people who are looking has got something else coming. this is the wrong way to attack growth in the economy. invest in job creation. don't cut people off when they need it most. >> we will follow this vote and bring it to you when it comes down in this hour. congresswoman, and former governor of michigan jennifer
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granholm, great to have you with us. i think there is a real parallel between the 40 some odd votes to strike down obama care and the house and what the house is doing right now and we all know how the vote is going to turn out. they'll cut $40 billion out of food stamps. that's what they want to do. just think if we didn't have a democratic senate or a democrat in the white house. up next, john boehner gets emotional again. this time envy rears its ugly head. a union alert. i will tell you about a push for a trade law that will impact every worker in america and i don't think it is a good deal. we're right back. from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a state-of-the-art monitoring center, where experts watch over all drilling activity twenty-four-seven. and we're sharing what we've learned,
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>> he says no more one-on-one negotiations with the president. >> the speaker said i am sorry, the deal is off. i can only negotiate now with the senate. >> it is hard to understand why speaker boehner would walk away. >> right now i would say we're nowhere period. ♪ >> turning to eugene robinson, columnist for the "washington post" and political analyst. both sides, gene, parked their camps, okay? they're all camped out, totally separate, different worlds, can't communicate. now we're into the pin the blame game. we have boehner taking on a commercial saying that the president will work with putin but he won't work with us. you have rubio, rubio saying that the president has to stop threatening to shut down the government. when they pin the blame game,
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what does that tell us? >> number one, you hear the republicans yelling that. this is the stupidest brinksman ship episode we have had yet. the republicans don't want to do this. a smart republicans don't want to cause a government shutdown or a government default. they're doing it anyhow and they can't stop themselves. it is just crazy. are we out of touch with reality to think that bob dole and tom daschle voices from the past could bring in reason? >> i don't know. i hope so. let's get ban ki-moon to come in and mediate, too. anything would help at this point because the republican party is just on the verge of a nervous breakdown. it just can't function. >> it is their caucus, no doubt, and the hard right and not giving boehner who he really wants to do and he is forced to take a lead in public that is against his will? >> well, it is against his will
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but ironically the kindest thing president obama could do for john boehner is to stand firm and say no and show the crazies the limits of their power. we may have to go through this ritual for a shutdown and the senate and saying you're out of your mind and the president and then maybe comes back to the house and they have learned something. >> is it different this time around with president obama because he is not funning for re-election? >> he can't move. >> it is obama care. it is his signature legislation and something he is proud of and forms a big part of his legacy and he really believes in
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deeply. he spent a lot of his personal time the last few months on the implementation of the affordable care act. >> are we headed for shutdown? >> my instinct is yes and i think it will be brief. >> you think it will be brief? >> it may be brief. >> that was my next question. i was going to ask do you think it could be different from the gingrich shutdown because these varieties are far more radical today than they were then? >> they are. so who knows exactly how long it will last, maybe that's just my wishful thinking. the bottom line -- >> isn't the makeup of the mindset different this time around in this shutdown? >> the makeup of the mindset is different. they really have no place to go this time. as soon as they pass something that goes to the senate it will get bounced back to them. once there is a shutdown, once they're clearly responsible for closing the national parks, for cutting off the social security checks, to are doing all the
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things that will happen or eventually could happen, it might not last that long. >> great to have you with us. >> great to be here. >> thanks so much. >> up next, the tip of the melting iceberg in republican lives, about climate change, and a moment of temporary sanity, yes, i said sanity. from our old buddy ted cruz. next, i am taking your questions on ask ed live just ahead. stay with us.
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there is more people that are going to be accessing what they're selling. this isn't coming from the insurance companies. okay? this is all coming from elected officials who do not want to see the shift to a progressive format of health care delivery system in the country because they're for profit. so the insurance companies as i see it are caught between a rock and a hard spot. they have the new customers coming in and they have to adjust to the exchanges and change their rates a little bit. there is going to be a trade off. believe me, they'll make their money. our next question is from brandon harris. why don't conservatives complain about corporate welfare? because they're the ones that hand it out. it is the corporation that gets them elected. that's what citizens you need is all about.
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senator cruz, just yesterday a senior house republican aide said it is disappointing to see that wendy davis has more guts than ted cruz. he used a different word than guts. they call you a phoney and a joke. how do you respond? >> i am always impressed with the courage of anonymous congressional aides. >> welcome back to "the ed show," america's favorite canadian tea party senator, ted cruz isn't making friends as of late after picking the fight against obama care, he has been accused by house republicans as walking away when it matters the most. as you just heard, republicans had harsh words for cruz. house republicans have laid out their latest plan to sink obama care. they want to tie it to a measure to defund the law to the continuing resolution that keeps our government running and
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paying the bills around the world. in other words, they're ready and willing to play another game of chicken with our economy. now ted cruz has been at the forefront of all of this and forefront of this fight against obama care since he came into the senate. you may have seen the infomercial ads cruz has been running. cruz hasn't been shy about calling out members of his own party. >> you know, i have been astonished at how many republicans in washington want a fig leaf. they want a vote to say i did the right thing but they don't want to succeed. >> ted cruz got what he wants, the house is going ahead with a plan. what is his response? >> harry reid will no doubt try to trip the defund language from the continuing resolution and right now likely has the votes to do so. at this point house republicans must stand firm, hold their ground, and continue to listen to the american people. well, after all the talk, cruz is admitting defeat before the
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fight begins. to be fair, cruz did leave the door open for a filibuster. where do you think will you find our votes for that? tomorrow, he is all hat and no cattle. folks, this is all about self preservation. he is just saying what the rest of the republican party refuses to. this plan, it ain't going to work. sure isn't going to work. the house will pass a continuing resolution that defunds obama care and it will never pass in the senate and it will never be signed by the president of the united states. this is the perfect illustration of just how fractured the republican party really is. joining me now for the rapid response panel, john nichols, washington correspondent of the nation magazine. john, you first. sort out this mess for us.
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>> it is really rooted in the fact the republican party is divided between two camps. there is one camp that actually believes what ted cruz says. they have bought into a fantasy that somehow they can so destabilize government they will get what they want. the trouble is that this is a profoundly unpopular initiative, the american people overwhelmingly believe, polling shows us, that doing this will harm the economy, harm society, do a lot of bad, and so ted cruz who is supremely ambitious wants to be the next president of the united states and knows that he can't at this point be in the forefront of this yet he's got his minimal i don't knons pushio the cliff. >> how damaging? could this be really the beginning of a big split in the
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gop? to the paint there may be another faction to go off on their own? >> the wheels are coming off the clown car. that's all we can say. i don't think we have seen anybody in congress become so unpopular so quickly as ted cruz. that's established. that's one thing republicans and democrats, not much we agree on but increasingly we agree we don't like ted cruz. that's something. in terms of anyone showing real leadership on this, i am not seeing it. they're angry at ted cruz for leading them off a cliff and no one, john boehner is making ridiculous comments about complaining that the president will try to negotiate to avert war with vladimir putin and won't negotiate with him even though boehner is the one that walked away from negotiations and used to brag about the fact he wouldn't bother talking to this president. so i don't see a movement towards something good or reasonable or sane but i think we are seeing a movement away
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from something crazy. >> how does this play in the latino community? there will be a big fight in the midterms and 2016 for the latino community. give us a pulse on exactly who the winners and the losers are here. >> well, both ted cruz and marco rubio are the losers. in florida they have this competition to see which one is more like the tea party and more in love with the tea party and saying all the things the tea party wants to hear. the problem is the voters don't want to hear any of that and latino voters specifically don't want to hear about the shutting down of the government or senior citizens, many of them right here in our community in miami and many of the voters of rubio very up isset about the fact they may not get that social security check that they depend on for their meals. >> what about the blame game? rubio is saying that the president has to quit using the shut town and quit threatening
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to do it. if this isn't a false hood, i don't know what is. this is the manufacturing of a story. >> i mean, the incredible thing, have you somebody that really went out and stirred up these sentiments along with ted cruz and along with a number of other folks, created a fantasy that this was such a big crisis coming that it had to happen. we had to do something to stop obama care, and then when you actually get to the critical moment, accusing the president of creating the crisis. is really is a situation where i do believe that a number of senators, and i think rubio is one of them, and i think people in the house like paul ryan, they talked and talked and talked about this stuff and i think they convinced their fellow republicans of it an now they realize that there is no way they're going to sell the fantasy that barack obama created this crisis. >> the president says he is holding the line. can we believe him? we have seen this dance before.
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it didn't sound good in the summer of 2011. >> right. >> how do the democrats handle this and i have been told the democratic caucus is as much behind president obama on this than any issue that they have had to deal with. >> they are. there is reporting now that republicans are counting on the president to kay. i don't expect that. i think he knows what he is up against, and i think he also knows even republicans, every single poll we have seen, even republicans think it is nuts to shut down the government to defund obama care, even voter that is don't like obama care and i think the end game is they want to stop obama care. they know when it takes effect it is going to be popular. on october 1st when people are able to use the exchanges and subsidies kick in and more than half of people that have to buy insurance will get some sort of subsidies, people will be very happy. >> it is the propulsion of the generational shift.
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studies proving temperature has gone up at alarming rates. a brigade of tin foil hatters sat behind epa administrator jean mccarthy to underscore the congressman's active attempt to shield his own brain from science. but no one put it better than congressman henry waxman. >> i think this illustrates why we need a committee where we bring in the scientists. i just thought the statements that gentleman from west virginia read to us were incredibly inaccurate and contrary to everything else everybody in the scientific community has to say. >> scientists are needed at these panels? or maybe just people who can read a report. if congressman david mckinley thinks he can keep science out of the energy policy, he can keep on pretending. la's known definitely for its traffic,
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welcome back to "the ed show." this is the story for the folk who is take a shower after work, the workers of america. this week president obama met with big business leaders at a round table about the path forward in the country's economic recovery. the president highlighted some major accomplishments. >> we created now 7.5 million new jobs. the housing market has begun to recover. exports are at record highs. we are producing more energy than we ever have before, and
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that strengthened our manufacturing base here. the deficits have been coming down at the fastest rate since world war ii. the deficit's been cut in half since i came into office. health care costs which were and continue to be a major source of concern are increasing at the slowest rate in 50 years. employer-based health care plans have gone up at about 1/3 of what they were going up when i first took office. there's a lot of bright spots in the economy. >> i'll say. there's your commercial, democrats, right there. but wait a minute. he said something that is very troubling to labor. and here it is. >> we've still got a lot of work to do. we know that we can do even more when it comes to exports. which is why i'm out there negotiating in the transpacific partnership and now transatlantic trade partnership
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that will allow us to create a high-standard, enforceable, meaningful trade agreement with essentially 2/3 of the world markets which is going to be incredibly powerful for american companies who up until this point have often been locked out. >> joining me now is larry cohen. good to have you with us tonight. what do wage earners and middle class americans need to know about this deal? the transatlantic trade agreement, the transpacific trade agreement. what is it? >> first thing we need to know is that it's secret. so you have a real problem when we talk about american corporations and we don't talk about the 130 million americans who go to work every day. and even members of congress have no idea what's been involved in two years of negotiations. the biggest fear is the state department drives most of this. so for every other nation, we start out with jobs, they start
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out with jobs and their economy. and we start out with what i would call a 20th century view of national security. many would disagree with that. but let's take this tpp, transpacific partnership. the minimum wage in vietnam is 25 cents an hour. they have no rights whatsoever beyond that. the idea that that is a good way to equalize trade, let's talk about jobs, and we're not just talking about -- it's ridiculous. i.t. jobs are being exported out of this country. tech support jobs. because we have no floor. we have no floor at all. but the biggest thing, ed, is secrecy. and fast track must be stopped. fast tracked means that for all things that never get through congress, trade deals get an up or down vote before you bat your eye. we need to know -- >> this is another nafta disaster waiting to happen? >> yeah, this is 20 years of trade deals that mean our jobs
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leave and the jobs we create all too often are at minimum wage and fast food, et cetera. and that's not the future for my daughters. and i know that's not what americans want for their future either. >> i'm told that china is going to see some jobs leave their country and go to vietnam and cambodia on this deal. and they're going to end up cutting a deal with some of the countries that are going to be involved in this transpacific trade which would even undercut the american market and the american worker even more. >> yeah. if we don't get a floor in these deals that we all participate in, citizen groups participate in, then we need to say to congress no fast track. to date, no citizen groups have been involved to any extent in this transpacific partnership. it's a race to the bottom. we need a race to the top. and that's where we stand. >> it sounds like a superhighway to outsourcing to me. can labor stop this? i mean, obviously the aflcio had
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their convention in los angeles. they made a statement on this. the president's for it. what do you make of it? >> i think to stop it we need to build the coalition we have already that includes greens, that includes all kinds of citizen and democracy groups, civil rights groups, et cetera. people who say we need economic policy, we need trade policy for american workers just as the vietnamese will push in their own interests. and we don't have much in common with them and we need to look out. >> all right. we're going to spend more time on this on "the ed show," find out what the devil in the details are as we move forward. larry cohen, thanks for joining us tonight. appreciate it. in the next few moments, the house will vote on a bill that could cut $40 billion out of food stamps. keep it on msnbc for the latest. we'll have more on this story tomorrow. that's "the ed show." i'm ed shultz. "politicsnation" starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good
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