good morning. i'm chris jansing. fasten your seat belts. republicans may be divided over whether to shut down the government, but this morning that looks like exactly what many of them are planning to do. a vote is expected next hour to tie funding the government to defunding obama care. right now house republicans wrapped a caucus meeting talking strategy. with these fiscal fights ahead. here's what peter king said as he walked in. >> today's vote is definitely a signal that we have to take more realistic and practical approaches, that we can't be going off on these false missions that people want us to go on. the issues are too important, they're too serious. they require real conservative solutions, not cheap headline

hunting schemes. >> and the debate is already raging on the house floor. listen to what we heard just moments ago. >> government shutdown is a political game in which everyone loses. if this legislation is not enacted and we embark on a government shutdown, the consequences are severe. >> unfortunately, this new package will attach not one, but two politically motivated, ill-conceived doomed provisions. instead, the republicans want to play games of brinkmanship on the budget and the debt limit. >> now, without a vote in congress, on october 1st, the government shuts down. that means no paychecks for military members, no veterans services, national parks and monuments will close and both passport applications and student loans won't be processed. it's all part of the conservative tea party influence in washington.

cut spending, shrink government. >> i think at the end of the day, they'll blink. and the bottom line is when the public is so overwhelming low against an action and when you just look at the body language of speaker boehner and eric cantor, they know it's wrong. all the republican leadership knows that doing this is a disaster for them. they're not strong enough to resist the tea party. >> yesterday the house just barely passed a bill to cut food stamps by $39 billion. "the new york times" calls it an act of supreme indifference. no democrats voted for it, but it passed by just seven votes. i want to bring in our company, the national journal's chris frakes and lynn sweet. >> good morning. >> good morning, chris. >> sean duffy, the congressman, was on "morning joe" today. here's what he said about all of this. >> a lot of us do not want to shut down the government but we think we can engage in a fight

here where we have a solution that's negotiated with both sides can win. we think we have an opportunity maybe not to defund it but we may get the president to agree to a delay in obama care. i think the president might, you know, go oh, my god, these guys twisted my arm so hard, all right, i'll agree to a delay for a year. >> chris, is that what these guys really believe, you twist president obama's arm a little bit and he's going to give up on his signature policy agreement? >> that's what they're all saying, chris. certainly republicans will be quick to tell you that they don't intend to shut down the government and they don't intend to default on america's debts, which really leaves the question of what kind of leverage do they have? and the only answer to that question i've heard is that the president also needs to keep the government running, he also doesn't want to default on america's debt, so they're going to go down the lane together and hope that they can get some concessions as they travel forward. i think it's going to be very, very tough. the president and the senate democrats have no intention of allowing any kind of delay or

defunding of obama care. so the question remains what do house conservatives really think they can win? the answer so far is not a lot. >> well, we see the passion on capitol hill because we're watching the live picture of this debate. lynn, paul krugman wrote in "the new york times" today in recent months the gop has seem to have transitioned from being the stupid party to being the crazy party. but in all seriousness, what's changed? has anything changed here? >> well, what's changed is that speaker boehner has not been willing -- nothing has changed, chris, that is my answer, because speaker boehner has been boxed in by the 30 or so members of the tea party caucus. but what he did isn't all bad for the white house. let me just quickly explain why. because he has challenged the senate republicans and ted cruz to put up or shut up. this is a new development. the house is going to pass today this legislation that will

never, ever go anywhere. it's doomed, as everyone is saying, because the senate won't buy it. but then ted cruz will have to show if he can lead, if he can get the votes in the senate to pass it, he won't be able to, rand paul won't be able to, they don't have a plan b. that could just possibly then free up john boehner to finally just negotiate and compromise. >> in large part, there is this battle here, chris, between senate republicans and house republicans. let me play for you john mccain. >> it will in my opinion, as it did before, harm the american people's view of the republican party. it's pretty obvious that he has great difficulties within his own conference. >> it's going to hurt the republican party, but john boehner is doing it anyway, chris. why? >> well, remember that this idea to tie obama care delay and defunding to the fiscal showdown started off in the senate. it started off with guys like rand paul and ted cruz. and the house republicans took

up that banner and they were able to force their leadership into tying these things together because they thought they had a willing partner in senate republicans who would filibuster and do everything to delay it and really try to make democrats look bad here. but even ted cruz this week had said he doesn't think they have the votes in order to do that, which has just sent the house republicans appoplectic because they thought they had a partner here. so that was the strategy and it looks like even before the game begins, it's starting to disintegrate for conservative republicans. >> the president is going to talk about the economy this afternoon and again he's going to push back on the plan. gene robinson said the president needs to be the disciplinarian of a dysfunctional family but when i was talking to chris van hollen, he said, look, this is about john boehner, this is not about the president. so i guess my question for you, lynn, is there anything the president can do?

>> well, he can keep pressing, i think, on the selling of obama care. we're just 11 days away from one of the major elements coming, this open enrollment. and i think that if republicans continue to talk about ending a program that is to start just days away, i don't see how they can have an advantage. so if obama talks about the practical reality that obama care is coming, it's just a few days away and the republicans don't want to compromise, that's a message that may work, especially as he goes out in the country and explains what's happening. you know, i think that's their strongest argument, that compromise is -- when compromise isn't an option, we don't look unreasonable, the republicans do. >> i want to bring in congressman michael grimm, republican from new york. good to see you, congressman. good morning. >> good morning. nice to see you. >> how are you going to vote on funding the government but difund obama care. >> i'm support the resolution. first, you mentioned ted cruz.

ted cruz and others like him have been writing checks with their mouth that their votes can't cash, and, you know, i think now they have to put up or shut up. so for me personally, i think that's one message that i want to send back to the senate, that they can't continue this political rhetoric if they don't plan on backing it up. that's one thing. the other thing i think what's getting lost in this conversation, if i would have said to you a while ago that we're going to delay the mandate on businesses in obama care, everyone would have had the same exact conversation you're having now. that's crazy, the president will never do it. yet the president comes out and delays it unilaterally and everyone is fine with that. so what i think this is also part of is bringing back the american people to the awareness that we've already delayed major parts of obama care. we've already missed most of the deadlines. so it is not unreasonable to believe that maybe, under the right circumstances, and there are other leverage points that weren't mentioned, but maybe i think there's a lot of democrat senators that don't want to take this vote, they're in tough races.

and the more we find out about obama care, there's more and more people that aren't liking it as their premium has gone up and so on. so the idea of a delay isn't completely irrational and i think the president delaying it is proof of that. >> let me make a series of points. one is that the president did not do this unilaterally, let's start with that. but also the fact that this is a program that passed both houses and has been affirmed by the supreme court. when in history have we seen a situation like this where you're willing to shut down the government for something -- >> i'm not willing to shut down the government so i want to be clear about that. >> but that's going to be the effect, isn't it, congressman? >> no, i don't think so. we've been down this road many times. the reality is we're in negotiation. so are we going to put our best foot forward and have no leverage? of course not. so everyone knows there is a little bit of negotiating going on, positioning and posturing. >> where does the posturing end and where does the serious stuff begin? >> well, first of all, it's all

serious. but you do have to have leverage. at the end of the day, this is politics. to say it's not, look, from day one, you have democrats making robo calls and calling how i'm a tea party guy that wants to shut down the government when i've never wanted to shut down the government and my record proves otherwise. they're playing just as much politics on both sides. at the end of the day what do i think will happen? i think there will be a very serious question that could involve sequestration, obama care, the debt ceiling and it could all come together to work out where everyone gets a little bit of what they want. which, by the way, is how a negotiation is supposed to work. not everyone gets everything and not everyone walks away with nothing. >> are you worried about the political fallout? john mccain says this is going to damage republicans. >> well, i think when you have senator cruz and others constantly going out and running ads that we can defund obama care, i think that hurts the republican party. i think this is an opportunity to maybe start putting an end to

that and maybe a unification of the republican party. so admittedly, we have our own growing pains and we have some things we need to work out among the far arch conservative right wing of our party and i think this is part of that process, as painful as it is, but it is necessary. >> and let me ask you quickly, because while washington is talking about shutting down the government, there are some new diplomatic fronts opening up on syria and iran. you're a former marine, former fbi special agent. two weeks ago the country was preparing to go to war it seemed like to strike syria and show iran we were serious about red lines. today we have a deal in place to get rid of syria's chemical weapons and iran's new leaders are sending signals they're willing to curb their nuclear program. does it matter how we got here if this really happens? how are you feeling about this now? >> no. as long as it happens. look, whenever you can avert war, that's a good thing. as a combat veteran, i can tell you no good ever comes out of war. there are always unintended consequences and the loss of american lives at some point. so if we can avoid war, i am all

for that. i just know that we do have to be very diligent and make sure that we're not being brought down a road of delay, delay, delay and nothing meaningful happens. we do have to make sure that there is an international coalition formed to keep the pressure on syria and make sure that we do disarm them. that is the key to the first step. if that happens, then i would love to see iran step back from their nuclear program. that's something we've been fighting for for a long time. if that can happen out of this, it would be a home run for the united states. but averting war is always good for any nation. >> i also want to point out that you are one of a handful of republicans who voted against stopping funding -- cutting food stamps. so i just want to make that point very clear. >> thank you. >> congressman, thank you very much. it's always good to see you. >> always good to see you. let's talk a little more about syria, because -- and iran, obviously, the two being so closely tied. i want to read part of the iranian president's op-ed called

why iran seeks constructive engagement. quote, gone is the age of blood fueds. world leaders are expected to lead and turning threats into opportunities and later win-win outcomes are not just favorable but also achievable. a zero-sum cold war mentality leads to everyone's loss. yet, lynn, he sat down with ann curry. today he writes this opinion piece in "the new york times." they are reporting that he is open to dealing on their nukes in order to end sanctions. is this a real 180-degree turn? >> it's a little too soon to tell. and this is coming days before the leader goes to new york for the annual meeting of the united nations general assembly, where it remains to be seen at what level he can engage with the united states. certainly there's no meeting with president obama on now. this is also a charm offensive. i think you have to like -- again, you have to put on the table what you're going to do about nuclear power. you know, ann curry's interview was terrific.

she went through everything with him. if you believe him, then this is a good development. if he can be trusted, this is good. i guess we just don't know yet if he can be trusted. >> david sanger puts it this way in "the new york times." president obama finds himself at the opening stages of two unexpected diplomatic initiatives with america's biggest adversaries in the middle east, each fraught with opportunity and danger. chris, it looks good now, but could this turn bad quickly? >> well, certainly that's always a risk in the middle east. but i think what the new iranian president's point is really showing here is that the sanctions are working. they are tough, they are crippling iran and there is a bit of an outreach here from the new regime to see if there's a way maybe to loosen them. and i think the other thing folks should look at is our engagement with syria through the russians and that negotiation really showed iran that we are willing to talk when it comes to violence in the

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it is a wolf in wolf's clothing. the underlying bill, to shut down government, the cr, is reason enough to object to it. because that bill will cost at least a million jobs in the course of the next year. >> so that was just really moments ago, nancy pelosi. she's still on the house floor. and with the economy hanging in the balance, lawmakers are quickly running out of time to reach that high-stakes deal to avert a government shutdown. it's a road we've been down before, as you'll see in this "today" show flashback. >> the u.s. government is officially broke this morning, and preparing to shut down. a late-night meeting at the white house failed to resolve the budget impasse that has left the country without extensions of either the debt ceiling or spending authority. >> will we be able to cut and

paste that script on october 1st joining me now, democratic congressman gregory meeks of new york. good to see you, congressman. good morning. >> good morning. >> so the clock is ticking. we're ten days from a possible government shutdown. what are the chances, as you see it right now, that that happens? >> look, the speaker has to step up. clearly the speaker is allowing 30 to 60 individuals to hold this whole process hostage. he needs to step to the plate and put a reasonable bill on the floor that we worked on. that's something that he knows, he absolutely knows will not pass. so that's the kind of political gamesmanship that we're playing right now, where the republican party and those in the tea party particularly are holding up the creation of jobs and moving this economy forward for american people. and it's almost ridiculous in my opinion because we're going to vote on a bill today that they know will be going nowhere laden with poison pills and all kinds

of bad, bad news for the american people. so it's up to the speaker and the republicans here in the house. even the senate, republicans in the senate are saying to the republicans in the house, look, change your tune because it's not good for america. >> well, we had one of your republican new york counterparts on just a short time ago, michael grimm, and he said, look, i don't want a government shutdown but we should be talking about some compromise here, about a delay. let me play for you what he had to say. >> the american people to the awareness that we've already delayed major parts of obama care. we've already missed most of the deadlines. so it is not unreasonable to believe that maybe under the right circumstances, and there are other leverage points that weren't mentioned, that maybe i think there's a lot of democrat senators that don't want to take this vote. they're in tough races. the more we find out about obama care, there's more and more people that aren't liking it as their premium has gone up and so on. so the idea of a delay i don't think is completely irrational. >> is there room for negotiation and possibly a delay?

>> look, there's not going to be any negotiation on the debt ceiling. the president has been clear on that. we've never done that before. i feel sorrow -- >> but what about delaying obama care. >> obama care is the law of the land. it was voted on, it was passed. then the supreme court ruled on it. when have we ever tried to delay the law of the land? and it goes back to what speaker boehner said some time ago which just does not make sense. as opposed to trying to pass a bill that we know we can pass, he says it's not about how many bills we pass, it's about how many bills we stop, which is not the way we move america forward. and michael grimm, you know, i can see the frustration on him in his voice or hear the frustration in his voice because he knows that there are individuals in his party that are not rational and they are holding up the process and that this pending shutdown that we look like we're headed toward is devastating to the american people. he knows that and some other republicans know that. so we can't allow the 60 or so

tea partiers to take this government down. >> one of the things that you hear from republicans is that look at the polls. our recent poll found 44% said obama care is a bad idea. just 31% say it's a good idea. so how do you counter their argument? >> look, you look at my state of new york, for example. already it showed that the affordable care act is bringing down premiums by 50%. you can go state by state and see how we're going to get a grasp on the affordable care act. when you look in it and see that children -- people -- parents can keep their children on their insurance rate, on their insurance plan until they're 26. when you look and see that in fact you can have a situation where individuals who may have had some kind of illness beforehand, that they now are still covered, there is no cap that you have on seniors with reference to prescription drugs, these are all things that the american people want. these are the things that is in

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it has been an unusually fiery morning on the floor of the house. they are debating whether to pass a continuing resolution that would fund the government until december 15th but in the process would defund obama care. this is the first in a series of fights that we're seeing in washington, d.c. a very split congress. i want to bring in democratic strategist and former clinton '08 adviser kiki mcclain. former huck be campaign manager chip saltsman. kiki, let me get your reaction. i haven't seen in a while so many arms flailing. you don't even have to hear what they're saying to know there's a lot of passion on that floor

this morning. >> well, we've gotten to the point of this being ludicrous. it's immoral the way this takedown is happening in the house right now. we have an economy to run. and you have a small band of conservative tea party warriors who are holding our federal government hostage at the threat of a shutdown over a piece of legislation they lost on years ago and they're just not willing to give it up. frankly, for their own self interest, they choose this over doing what's right for the country, so emotions are running high at this point. >> and we've talked about the things that will happen. >> yeah. >> i mean it's a slippery slope of the impact of this. and we're not just talking about federal workers who aren't going to be able to work, chip. what's going on here? >> well, i know kiki and i have both been through a government shutdown before. the republicans that i've talked to in the house don't want this to happen. but they also believe that defunding obama care is something good for the country,

good for the economy and sdw that will help as we've seen companies like home depot and walgreens plan to dismiss their employees from health care so they can get on their own exchanges for obama care. so this issue that's not important not only to the conservative cause but the american country as well. >> but my question is this. right now they're not two separate issues because republicans in the house have put them together. so republicans have made a decision that it is more important to shut the federal government down over a different piece of policy than to be responsible leaders. and republicans are not going to get out of this by walking around saying, well, most republicans don't want to shut the government down either, because right now they have lost control of their party and that's exactly what we're on the way to have happening. >> i disagree with you because if they pass this, it keeps the government open, doesn't it? it keeps the government open -- >> let me tell you something. >> no, no, no, no. it keeps the government open. >> i can hold somebody hostage

with a bomb and ask you for a million dollars and you'll give me the million dollars, won't you? that's not responsible leadership. >> it is leadership. it's making choices. governing is making choices. >> wasn't the choice already made by congress, chip? wasn't the choice made they voted and they passed obama care. >> they did. >> the choice was made. >> and in fact there are many signs of the great things obama care is doing. i think we all know that a big piece of reform like that, there are elements that even the president several years ago reached out to republicans and said i'm willing to work on. but with this republican congress it's all or nothing. and here's the deal. we have democrats who get stuck in the corner too in an all or nothing. that doesn't get us anywhere. it is irresponsible and immoral leadership to do it this way. to threaten most of america. you have millions of federal workers who don't know if they're going to lose income. you have work that's going on that becomes more costly because of the interruption. it is irresponsible leadership by the republicans in the house. >> we've got to go, but we are

waiting for this vote which could take place in the next 20 minutes, 25 minutes or so. thanks, kiki, chip, good to see you both. talk about surprises, pope francis just keeps delivering bombshells. the latest in a blunt interview with the jesuit magazine "america." the pope called for big changes in church priorities saying, quote, we cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods. this is not possible. he added, we have to find a new balance. otherwise even the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards. new york cardinal timothy dolan is president of the u.s. conference of catholic bishops. >> he's asking for a fresh strategy. i think what he's saying is sometimes if we come across as negative, as complaining too much, we lose the folks. we've got to be positive. we've got to be fresh, we've got to be affirming. if we emphasize the essentials, all those other principles will flow from it, the practical

application. i think he's on to something. he's a good teacher. >> joining me now, kate childs graham. good to see you again, how are you? >> good, how are you? >> well, the pope said the catholic church had become obsessed by small-minded rules. he said the church must be the home of all, not a small chapel that can only hold a small group of selected people. what did you think when you heard this? >> you know, i experienced the interview through the holy trinity of "the new york times," facebook and twitter. what was kind of remarkable, even more remarkable, more inspiring as the pope's words, as progressive as they were, was the people on facebook and twitter, catholics, noncatholics, people who have felt marginalized by the church, who have left the church saying, yes, this is what we've been saying for years and what's finally being reflected by our leaders and that excitement is so inspiring. and i think it means that catholics are hopeful for a transformation in our church. >> two of the big things he

talked about was a change in roles and an appreciation for gay catholics and women catholics. it was like lightning fast, the pro lgbt catholic coalition equally blessed released a statement and i want to read part of it for you. it said the pope's statements are like rain on a parched land for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender catholics and their supporters. look, the question is will there be an embrace of what the pope is saying? and i guess that's what we have yet to see, right? >> right. i mean i think there -- pope francis is hugely popular among american catholics. and i think that we are embra embracing him because he does reflect those values that we hold dear and he reflects, you know, that thirst that we have for a church that's really home for all. now, the question is now we've got the ceo, the pope talking the talk. we've got the worker bees who

have been saying this for years. the question lies in middle management, the bishops. what are they going to do with this information. that's really been the question since pope francis was elected. are they going to stay down this my optic path with an op session, pope francis' words, on abortion and gay and lesbian rights, or are they going to find this new balance with pope francis and progressive catholics like us. it will be interesting to see and i hope they work with us to find the new balance. >> it's always great to have you on the program. i'll be curious to hear if groups like yours feel like they're having more influence and are more included in the conversation, so let's talk again soon. >> absolutely. thanks, chris. >> thank you. iphone frenzy is sweeping across the country and around the world with the iphone 5s and 5c going on sale this morning. who are these people? cnbc's courtney reagan is here with what's moving your money. she is live outside the apple flagship store just down the street from us on fifth avenue.

so, courtney, first time apple has ever released two new iphones on the same day. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. and actually for this time the iphone 5s could not be preordered so we saw some pretty impressive lines. folks camping out. the folks in the beginning of this line had actually been here for two weeks, very excited to get their new iphone 5ss. there was a limit, two per customer of the most of the folks in line were going to go ahead and buy those two. now, yesterday afternoon there were about 30 people here in line. this morning at about 5:00 a.m., three hours before those doors opened, we guessed there were about 450 people in line and the line only grew, wrapping around the blocks. actually a couple of blocks long. right now we're two and a half hours into the sale and there's still quite a line outside here. but a number of companies that are not affiliated with apple actually made camping out worth it for a number of the folks, sponsoring them, paying for their meals, paying for their iphone as long as they

advertised, knowing they are going to capture the attention of passers by and media alike. listen to what some of them had to say. >> they offered a deal to us, we advertise their company, they'll pay us, you know, $800 each to get whatever phone we want. >> reporter: so it's really interesting to see what the people were offered here, the different companies. a lot of them, though, just in line for the experience of it all. they all know they didn't have to wait in line two weeks but they do it anyway. >> courtney braving the crowds on fifth avenue in new york city. great to see you. thank you. >> reporter: thanks. when we come back, like father, like son. massachusetts congressional candidate charles sciortino jr. will join us with his dad to talk about the ad that jansing & co. team is calling maybe the best ad ever. thank you. thank you. i got this. oh, no, i'll get it! let me get it. uh-uh-uh. i don't want you to pay for this. it's not happening, honey. let her get it. she got her safe driving bonus check from allstate last week. and it's her treat. what about a tip?

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ad but the two don't exactly see eye to eye politically. >> i'll never forget that conversation with my dad. >> that's me. >> where i had to come out and tell him. >> wait for this. >> that i was a massachusetts liberal. >> and he's proud of it! >> dad's in the tea party. >> damn right. >> there are some things you don't stop fighting for. >>. [ sighs ] >> also the right to choose. equal pay for women and equal rights for, well, everybody. >> he's been like this for 35 years. >> that's why i approve this message, and i still love you, dad. >> me too, son. >> let me bring in the stars of that ad. state representative carl sciortino jr. and his father, carl sciortino sr. so happy to have you here. i have to start with you, representative. this ad has gone national. it's gotten coverage from "the new york times," "washington post," npr. the "denver post" headline, was "this campaign ad is actually adorable." this is any candidate's dream.

why do you think it's done so well? why do you think everybody is talking about it? >> well, it's -- chris, first of all, thank you for having us on. it is pretty remarkable. when we started this campaign. i've been running as a strong progressive in the field. now we have 270,000 hits. we have lots of people going to our website to sign up and give money and volunteer. it's really taken off in a great way. i think a lot of it, frankly, is because on the video you can see that i fight for progressive values, i'm a proud massachusetts liberal and i come from a father who is very different from myself and politically we've fought a lot. you know, honestly i think it's refreshing in the current political debate where people fight so much, even the debate happening right now on the congress floor trying to defund food stamps, for example. i think there's really a lot of room to come together and say we want to take care of our families, whether you're a liberal or conservative. this is about making sure we have a strong country and that's what i'm fighting for. >> dad, you can see that you still love your son no matter

what, but what's it like at the family dinner table? >> to be honest with you, we have our differences but it's not as bad as people can imagine. we have our differences, but we do respect each other. we have our moments, but it's not -- >> where do those moments come? is there one particular topic where you couldn't disagree with him more? >> i believe right now it's where our country is headed. i'm looking at it at a different point of view than my son. i'm a republican and a conservative one. >> oh, yes. >> so we have our differences there. >> and in fact, representative, you come from a family of republicans. you told "the daily beast" that coming out to your dad as gay was nothing compared to telling him that you were a liberal. really? >> that is true. that is true. i came out to him when i was 17 as gay. that went pretty smoothly. he was very, very supportive, very loving. it was a few years later he realized that i was also a definite liberal, progressive

leaning child so that was a more contentious conversation to have about a lot of things. but we still get along and i think that's the important part in a lot of the discussions we have. >> carl sr., your son also told "the daily beast" he's lucky you don't live in his district because he's not sure you'd vote for him. would you? >> yes, i would. >> oh, you would. okay. >> he's my son. >> well, he wouldn't vote in the primary because he only goes to the republican primary. >> and i wonder, if i may call you mr. sciortino sr., what the reaction has been. you're kind of like a celebrity now. >> it's quite overwhelming. i've been getting all kinds of phone calls. but i'm enjoying it, it's fun. as long as i can help my son out the best i can, that's why i'm here. no matter what he did in life, i would be there for him anyway. >> chris, when i told him i was running for this race earlier in the year, first he berated me for my political views, yelled at me for supporting obama, but he did say i understand why you want to fight. i get where your generation has been and there was a brief

moment of agreement that we both care about having a strong country even if we disagree about how we get there. >> definitely. >> well, it is nice to see the ad. i have to tell you, like you say, in this political climate. state representative carl sciortino and dad, carl sciortino, thanks to both of you. thank you for being on the program. >> thanks so much. today's tweet of the day comes from luke russert who writes no disrespect but predawn waiting in line for an iphone? once in a lifetime concert, sure. playoff tics, sure. an iphone? gah. (announcer) answer the call of the grill with new friskies grillers, full of meaty tenders and crunchy bites. about layaway backed by f ad match. layaway with ad match is awesome. wow, so if i see it somewhere else, i can bring that... ad in and they will change the price for me. that is a sweet deal right there. walmart's layaway is free with no opening fee. and it's backed by ad match. get started today. walmart.

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developing now, it's less than two weeks before the government will run out of money. live pictures here on the house floor. they're going through a vote that will happen right before we get the vote on the continuing resolution. just a few minutes, the house will vote on a stopgap bill, that cr, that would defund obama care while funding the government until ten days before christmas. right now they're in the middle

of that vote i was just describing. it will end very shortly. we expect in the next seven or eight minutes that we will be able to see those voting numbers start to reflect what congressmen feel on the cr that will defund obama care. i'm richard lui in for thomas roberts on this friday. heated debate on the house floor. here's minority leader nancy pelosi and majority leader eric cantor just a short time ago. >> this place is a mess. let's get our house in order. we are legislators. we have come here to do a job for the american people. either you don't know what you are doing or this is one of the most intentional acts of brutality that you have cooked up with stiff competition for that honor. >> let's defund this law now and protect the american people from the economic calamity that we know obama care will create. americans back home are fighting for their