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lord, deliver us from governing by crisis. >> right now on "andrea mitchell reports" from the sublime to ridiculous. >> why is majority leader harry reid voting the way you're proposing to vote. why is every democrat going to vote the way you ploep to vote. >> you voted in favor of the thing you're filibustering and senator harry reid joins you on that, too. so it seems to me they are very similar. >> keeping a close eye on breaking news this hour. the senate voted for cloture. you're looking live at the senate floor where soon they will vote on the continuing resolution which passed the house and defund obama care. united nations a breakthrough agreement between u.s. and russia on the first security council resolution to ban syria's chemical weapons. they will vote on it at 8:00 tonight. >> in the span of a few weeks the curtain that hid the chemical weapons program has been lifted and the world is on
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verge of requiring these terrible weapons be destroyed. >> last night a tearful fairwell at yankee stadium as an amazing era in baseball came to an end. good day, i'm andrea mitchell in new york. following the action on the senate floor right now. lawmakers with a series of votes to kick a vote to avoid a shutdown back to john boehner but what the speaker does with it is a mystery. joining us from the fix and nbc's david gregory, moderator of "meet the press." chris, we just had the votes for cloture, they will move to the
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next series of votes, then it goes back to the house. >> right. >> as we've seen, not good news to project from the house side. >> well, you know, andrea, this is in many ways formulaic. we have known since the house passed their version of the continuing resolution with defunding obama care provision it would go to the senate and the senate would do what's in the midst procedurally and will do in the next couple of hours send it back that takes out defund obama care then back where we thought it would be in john boehner's court. >> off the floor we have senator whose bill it is. we'll get you to comment in just a moment. senator, i know finally you've got the cloture vote. what do you project will happen with the continuing resolution. >> i'm calling you from the senate floor. it's very dramatic and very tense here. we have a series of four votes that we have to go through to
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send what we call a clean cr back to the house. our goal is to avoid a shutdown of the government, lay groundwork for short-term funding of all of government for november 15th to get to a long-term solution. if any one of these four votes fail the senate has to go back to the drawing board. it's a formula, a formula for disaster, because the whole strategy of the other party has been to try to delay obama care and is willing to hold up funding for sink government services by doing it. we're in kind of shoot-out okay corpor coral here. >> you're for all appropriated spending by federal government.
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americans don't seem to be taking this seriously until now. we saw what happened last night. republican senator corker from tennessee stood up against ted cruz from texas because of the delay of this vote on cloture until today. what was the purpose of that, delaying it? they could have voted last night. >> the reason ted cruz showed up and asked for a delay is so that he could have a vote for today with the tea backers in his tea party were going to watch. this is what i repeatedly said the greatest deliberative body has become the greatest esest g in the world. those come from a small minority in the republican party. what you saw with senator corker and others, including people like myself, we're pragmatists.
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we know we have to negotiate. we know we have to compromise. we know we have to focus on not only keeping the government open but we have to reduce public debt. we understand that. but we also have to deal with other important issues, unemployment, increasing educational achievement, investing in research and development for new ideas for new products for american jobs. this is the kind of thing we're going to be working on. instead we have to put up with tactics focusing object defunding obama care. president obama won the election, obama care is the law of the land, we've got to get on with government. >> senator, your amendment would put the obama care or affordable care act, funding back in the bill before it goes to the house. correct? >> my amendment is very straightforward to keep the government open. strip out the veto debate limit or defund obama care.
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if the congress sent president obama legislation that would defund obama care he'd veto it. all we're doing is playing ping-pong politics. all right. strip out obama care, government functioning through november 15th to work out the longer-term solutions of that actual fiscal policy. how do we reduce debt but at the same time produce growth. >> ted cruz will be on david gregory. what would you say to ted cruz, if you could? >> he had an exclusive interview. he spoke for 21 hours. he's had a lot of air time. we're focusing on him. what we should be focusing on is the delay tactics they are using jeopardizing the funding of the united states of america's essential services. also trying to hold president
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obama hostage over the debt ceiling. i think it's time that we start focusing on the people who are the pragmatic people providing solutions rather than the naysayers and those -- >> senator, thanks very much. call us back any time from the senate floor. >> it's pretty dramatic here. >> thank you. lets bring back chris cillizza and david gregory with the drama going on. david, you've got the center of the action coming up on sunday. as we see this, what is the likelihood the house is going to come up with some kind of compromise that can get through the senate in time for monday night. >> what they may do is send something back on funding the government to include something else on obama care and at the same time try to do a temporary measure to keep the government open. we know the house leadership, republican leadership doesn't want to shut the government down. there may be two dozen tea party conservative members who aren't
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really willing, as i understand it, to give up the fight on funding the government. what the speaker wanted to do was move on to the debt ceiling fight, delay obama care and add things to that ceiling bill. those folks don't want to do that just yet. they will know at the end of the day if they have been able to get them off this and move to the debt ceiling fight. the reality, what senator mikulski says, people will lead them out of this. that's not the case. even if he hasn't done a filibuster he has delayed the process and gummed up the process enough there is now a delay. he has put the house in a much more difficult position in terms of what it's going to do. so ultimately the question becomes whether they take their stand on ab care here with regard to the government shutdown or try to shift it to
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try to get some sort of negotiation on the debt ceiling. of course the irony in both cases, they don't seem to have the votes to legislatively affect what they want to affect. >> david and chris, there were 19 republicans, according to kelly o'donnell's count, 19 republicans voted against cloture. hatch and another had family issues so they were not present. going forward the house is going to have sessions now on saturday. chris cillizza, what do you expect to happen this weekend at john boehner's house? >> john boehner has a choice to make, andrea. david laid it out pretty clearly. there are 40, 45 republicans in the house who voted against john boehner on major measures, half the time, all of the time. these are people he is not going to convince. we saw this with the farm bill. we saw this when they last week tried to roll out their plan for continuing resolution in health care and it didn't work of the question is, is he willing to
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say we're going to lose these 30, 40 people and we're going to sub them in -- can they sub them in with 30 or 40 democrats to help them pass something or does he say, no, we're not doing this. we're sending it back. we're going to put another obama care provision in, send it back to the senate, which i assume harry reid would strip back out, then back to a government shutdown. really a choice of what direction he wants to make and what direction his political future holds. if you pass this bill with lots of democrats, what is already very hot seat for john boehner is just going to get hotter. >> if he does it here, andrea, this is the point, what people say. if he does it on the government shutdown, he really weakens his hand going into the debt ceiling. the white house is already saying we're not going to negotiate at all. you're going to own this debt ceiling business if you want to do something that there isn't support for. then if he's shown he'll use democrats on the funding of the
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government, why wouldn't he do it on something where the stakes are much, much higher. >> david gregory and chris cillizza. again, david, of course, we'll be sitting down with ted cruz exclusively this sunday to discuss his 21-hour talkathon and the role he's been playing and what's happening. all that on "meet the press." thanks to both of you. we're of course going to be watching all the senate. that's a live picture of the senate this hour. stay with us as the senate continues to vote on a series of votes on senate spending which will bounce back to the republican controlled house. more on the showdown in the senate coming up. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. this is for you.
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completed by hundreds of scientists hit humanity about our role in global warming. informal affairs correspondent anne thompson joins me now. anne, 95% certain it's us. >> like pogo, the problem is us. >> exactly. it's extremely likely the world has warmed -- it's unequivocal it's warmed since 1950. we are primarily responsible for it. they say the consequences we're seeing we're going to continue to live with. sea level rise, which we're already dealing w it's going to increase anywhere from 10 to 32 inches by the end of the century. we're going to see more heat waves. they are going to be longer. we'll still see cold weather but fewer of those really cold days. >> does it have any relationship
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to the severity of the storms we've been seeing some not just sandy but other storms do seem to be much more powerful. >> they are a little more squishy, if you will, on that. clearly when you have global warming and more moisture -- more heat goes into the air, more moisture goes into the air, when it does rain, the rain can be much stronger than in the past. when they are very certain about is the heat. >> what is long-term future about manhattan island? >> we could be in trouble. so could new orleans. so could miami. we could see drastic inroads in all of those low-lying places if we see that extreme sea level rise of nearly 3 feet. but you don't need that much. just look at what happened during sandy. we had 12 inches of sea level rise in the new york area not all due to global warming. when sandy came to shore,
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because there was that much more water, the impact is far greater than it would have been and that's what we're looking at. >> we're talking about also the barrier islands, changing topography, north carolina, south carolina, georgia. >> cape cod, nantucket. i was in nantucket this summer. you should see the erosion on baxter road. it's absolutely breathtaking. >> this is a u.n. report, an internationally achieved consensus. are there still deniers out there? >> there are skeptics. even those who used to call themselves deniers admit -- most of them now admit the world is warming. the the science is there. that's hard to deny. the bigger question is what to do about it. that's where the argument comes. what this report lays out very clearly is we have to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions. that means we have to either burn less coal and oil and gasoline or do something to capture the carbon created when
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those fossil fuels are burned. that's where the split is. we know what the consequences are. the question is do we have the political will to do something about it. as you know in washington, that's a very hot topic. you've got issues of the key tonight pipeline in play. all of these questions pit the environmentalists against others who look at jobs and say keystone does create jobs but not really permanent jobs. it's all of the industrial sector. >> but if you don't have a job, no matter how many jobs, one job is all you're looking for. what's interesting about the president's decision on keystone, he essentially drew a line that said, look, if it increases carbon pollution, that's a nonstarter for me. the question is can the oil sands industry, can canada do enough, put enough regulations in place to bring down those carbon emissions to make it palatable to the united states. just the process of getting the
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oil out of the sand puts more carbon dioxide bought area. >> anne thompson, thanks very much. any time. good to see you. learning a lot more about the story taken in this mall attack. the man reaching out to save the little girl is kenyan. the little girl is 4 years old, portia walton from north carolina. katherine walton's three children caught in the cross fire in the mall. the man is being called a hero. he said he did what any human being would have done. he wanted to know what happened at the westgate mall was not representative of all muslims. a broadcaster said 4-year-old portia walton was a brave little girl, running as she was told to do by her mother. >> could you please ask the kid to run towards us. i have to admit this little girl is a very brave girl. he used to be really rough around the edges,
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the daily struggle of tens of millions of overworking harried, overcommitted mother with will ferrell in his appearance with his own kids at sunday night's emmy awards. >> unfortunately helen mirren and maggie smith dropped out at the last second and they called me literally 45 minutes ago. i couldn't find child care, okay? . we had a soccer game, a neighbor's birthday party, a nut allergy, i didn't have time to do my hair. great to be here. >> some argue the ambition of so many women in america today to do all and be all is doing women more harm than good. debra spar, president of barnard college joined the debate with "wonder women, sex, power, the quest for perfection." deborah is with me now. a conundrum. i can't tell you how many women asked me, how do you do it all.
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i wasn't blessed with children so i don't have the challenges but we all have challenges. >> you're juggling after all. >> what conclusions do you draw being the president of a women's college and having really explored all of the cross currents that we all experience? >> i think one of the central conclusions of the book is that a phrase "having it all" is just a really bad phrase and a really bad idea. if we set out the expectation that we should be doing it all, by definition we're all going to be failing all the time. so we need to move the bar here so that women can follow their dreams and pursue their passions but not think they have to be doing everything at once. >> one thing i noted that hillary clinton this week announced she is 20 years after -- 20 years after beijing looking forward, is going to look at what have we accomplished since she declared in 1995, human rights are women
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rights. we see it with women in education, multiplier effect of women in developing countries, help for women that us aid tries to engender and a lot of ngos. here at home a lot of women and working class women really feel they don't have enough support. >> i think that's true. sadly over the past 20 years in the united states we haven't seen that much progress. if you look at the numbers, there was a surge of women in the workplace in the late 1960s, '70s and into the '80s. what we haven't seen is we haven't seen those women ascending to the highest levels of power in any number. across the country, women max out 15 to 20% of the very top positions. these are rich country problems. these are nothing like the problems women and girls face in other parts of the world. in this country sadly we seem to
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have stalled a little bit. >> you grew up in the '70s and '80s, the women's images, cultural images were wonder women, charlie's angels. i love linda carter, who happens to be a friend, the actress who plays wonder woman. we see women were mocked, were exploited and were treated in sort of objectified ways. >> it's easy to look at pictures and laugh at them because they seem silly. if you're a kid growing up at the time these images came out, this is the reality that you sort of suck in through the eat ether, i grew up thinking, even though i was a smart kid, adult life would be being gorgeous, smart, having a career, fighting evil, having a husband and life on the sad. of course that's a fantasy. >> i know cheryl sundberg gave
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one of her first speeches at barnard. you have emily and the push pull. do we do this serially, take time off, more flex time at work. >> i think there's no single answer here. i sort of come down right smack in the messy middle. i think clearly women have to fight hard and fight harder and realize that life is harder than i might have expected and we need more government support and change in the workplace. but i think at the end of the day i'm a realist. what i'm really trying to argue in the book that at least as a first step we just have to acknowledge that nobody is going to have it all. no man has it, no woman has it. if we redefine expectations girls are growing up with and women are struggling and feeling guilty about. then we can start to be more pragmatic about things we can do at the home front and workplace
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and societally, to make life saner for all of us. >> it does help when we have more women in the workplace, especially in executive positions. >> that's right. >> thank you very much, the president of barnard college and the author of "wonder women." i love the cover. it's really great. lots of luck with the book. >> thanks so much. speaking of women on the move after national attention texas state senator wendy davis is expected to announce she is running for governor. she held a 13-hour filibuster. that was a real filibuster against new statewide abortion restrictions. democratic sources tell dallas affiliate, she is in the race. she could announce as soon as next week. this comes on the same day planned parenthood and a dozen other women's health providers filed a federal lawsuit today against the state of texas. they want to block key provisions of the state's new abortion law. that law bans abortions after 20 weeks and only allows abortions in surgical centers, which is severely restricting to most women. my insurance rates are probably gonna double.
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>> this is something that we have long sought. and the fact that we now have a framework that will be voted on perhaps as soon as today, perhaps over the weekend or monday that would be legally binding, that would be verifiable and enforceable where there would be consequences for syria's failure to meet what has been set forth in this resolution i think is a potentially huge victory for the international community. >> that was president obama speaking just a short time ago from the oval office. we can report there is a u.n. security council vote scheduled for tonight, 8:00 tonight on the resolution over syria's chemical weapons stockpile. how do we reach the point where it is easier to get something through the united nations than congress.
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that's the question for richard wolffe. president obama trying to counter-act the republican attempt to rebrand the affordable care act. >> that's what's going to happen with the affordable care act. once it's working really well, i guarantee you they will not call it obama care. >> so how did the white house lose control of the message on health care and a lot of other things that's part of the fresh reporting in richard wolffe's new book, "the message, reselling of president obama." joining me is richard wolffe and msnbc analyst and executive editor of msnbc.com. this is a big deal. there's a lot of juicy such in here. >> thank you. >> the back story behind the re-election campaign and all the infighting. who knew -- >> who knew. >> it was not all sweetness and light. >> look, some people say, oh, this is what you kind of expect. not from this team. >> that was the loyal, no drama
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obama. >> exactly. i wasn't expecting it, a very different story moving into it. you look back at the arc, the things they had to overcome through the election. the terrible economy, coming out of the debt ceiling crisis. reshaping how people viewed mitt romney and the republican party outspending them. on top of that the infighting. then you start to see just what a challenge and what an actual drama it was. to me that was a real eye-opener. >> the president, speaking of today, then we'll work backwards, how did he get to the point where now we have a tinge resolution fight, a debt ceiling fight all wrapped up in the affordable care act, very little support for that, very little support for congress but the tea party, those 19 republicans who voted against cloture are bedevilling him on the hill and in the house. >> we have to be careful when we say no support. health care opinions have been fixed for a long time in spite
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of all this messaging from the white house and the other side. you have people who think it's not enough, a lot of people who don't understand it. some people who think it's some sort of socialist plot. what's interesting seeing the president yesterday, in a campaign-style setting, he can finally talk about obama care in ways people understand. not about the politics of. when he gets in the weeds the message disappears. >> need to call in bill clinton. >> when he talks about the other side trying to scare people from health care, that's a campaign message and on solid ground and a very different kind of president. >> the infighting during the campaign, axelrod versus mess a messina, these players. sounds like what you have in almost every white house, campaign. as you point out, you don't expect it from this crowd. what is the practical effect? how did it slow down or get them behind the curve, not in winning the re-election but figuring ow the policy going forward.
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>> you have a number of stove pipe areas of the campaign really operating almost independently of each other. they were great people there on the analytic side, digital media side, tv operation was sophisticated, too. if you don't have people working together at the senior level, people in a communications theme aren't communicating with each other, you do end up wasting energy and involved in all sorts of plots and conspiracies and everything else. if they had been against a half competent competition, i think the election would have been closer than it already was. when people look at the white house and say how come they are trying to sell it now this many years later. why don't you have the discipline, success coming from the white house, you've got to look at the individuals. it doesn't just happen. good people from the campaign didn't transfer into the white house. some of the mixed messaging was there, too. it's a big complex, you try and
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sort of unravel in a book like this. >> one of the problems is the messenger, even though the president gives great speeches, he makes a decision to change direction on syria in a walk around the grounds with dennis mcdonagh, chief of staff, makes a question to answer about the fed when asked by charlie rose that he shouldn't have, because it set off a gender battle and political war over a position not politicized. >> less disciplined message and messenger in this white house through the president. as a candidate he manages to stick to his lines very well and has a force and a purpose to what he's saying. in the white house you're looking at a very messy situation. often the white house say it's because of events. some of these events are of their own creation. you have the president campaigning yesterday at the same time they delay key provisions for small businesses on health care. that's not about events. that's things in this white house's control. there's a discipline and a force
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that when you lose a david plouffe, who is a very disciplined character, then things don't sound and look the same. in this case you've got a candidate, in this case the president, who feels like changing his policy and message seemingly on the spur of the moment. >> richard wolffe, thank you very much. the book is "the message, the reselling of president obama." and right now we're going to go to the senate because they are still debating and about to vote. lets listen in. >> state-run medical care. >> instead they chose to use a procedural device that allows the majority leader to use an amendment that gutted house continuing passed resolution and then prohibit everyone else from introducing amendments. this is unfortunate. but the american people continue to become alarmed by this law, a law that's never enjoyed. the majority.
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a law that's never had the support of a solid majority of american people and a law that becomes less popular rather than more as time goes on, for good reason. i continue to ask the same question i've been asking for days now. how many more americans will have to lose their jobs. how many more will be told their hours are cut, wages diminish or losing health care plans as 20,000 home depot employees were informed last week as a result of this job. our job is to protect the american people any way we can from the harmful effects of this law and we intend to continue to explore every alternative we can to do precisely that. >> there seems to be disarray, open split on the floor with senator corker. does that disunity, disarray among republicans -- >> what you're watching is senator mike lee and ted cruz responding to their failure to stop the cloture vote, which is
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now committing the vote taking place on the left side of the screen right now on the continuing resolution. lets listen to ted cruz. >> defund obama care and i hope and believe when the house takes this up again house republicans will continue to stand together on the side of the american people. i'm also hopeful when the house sends the bill back, it will be an opportunity for every senate republican to come home, to stand for the principles we all share, to stand with the american people. >> senator cruz, what do you mean about coming home. is there an orthodoxy you're expecting out of republicans as alluded to by senator corker and senators on the republican side coming home? >> every republican has been outspoken and eloquent against obama care. when the house stands up and does the right thing, i think it will present terrific opportunity for every senate republican to stand arm in arm
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with the house republicans. and then critically i think it will present an opportunity for senate democrats. senate democrats this time around didn't listen to the american people, didn't listen to young people coming out of school, not able to find a job because of obama care. they didn't listen to single molest working, waiting tables, working 29 hours a week because of obama care. they didn't listen to all the union workers. >> ted cruz continuing to make his case against the president's health care act. nbc news correspondent kelly o'donnell jones us now. kelly, they have already moved to strip out the defunding. that was 54-44. now they are on that final vote which will be a clean continuing resolution sent back to the house. >> what's been so critical here, andrea, is what we watched happen led by ted cruz and mike lee. how many republicans would side with them to take the more aggressive approach of trying to block any movement on this law with the attempt to both end the
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funding for the president's health care law and put into question could the government shut down. 19 republicans is significant. when you look at republican leadership, mitch mcconnell, john cornyn voting to move forward, when you take them out of it, it really splits 50/50. republicans in the senate were right down the middle, those wanting to move forward, those wanting to side with cruz. that's telling. then, of course, it was a party line vote when it came to the next in the series of votes, which is the piece where harry reid was able to take out of this measure the effort by the house to defund the health care law. that was just democrats standing up for the health care law. all republicans say, no, they did not want to see that happen. as we speak, the votes are being counted for final passage. it's been an eventful day. certainly ted cruz and mike lee did not win the day but they made a big point. they are trying to galvanize
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ovarian and uterine cancers are gynecologic cancers. symptoms are not the same for everyone. i got sick... and then i got better. the senate vote is under way to avert next week's government shutdown. senator gillibrand joins me now from capitol hill. senator, thank you very much. >> hi, andrea. >> it looks like at least this vote will send a clean bill without the defunding of obama care back to the house. its future in the house is very uncertain, though. >> that's right. the house needs to do the right thing. speaker boehner and republicans have to use common sense. it's important we fund the functioning of the government. we shouldn't be hurting military families. we shouldn't be hurting our economy. these efforts don't do one thing to help the economy grow or create one job. >> how did it become so
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dysfunctional. the popularity, i don't have to tell you. you were in the house, now the senate. congressional popularity as well as the president's popularity at an all-time low. people are just sick of the fighting and yet we have this showdown. even if this gets resolved we have the debt ceiling showdown. >> what we're watching, andrea, is really a tea party tantrum. it's republicans fighting republicans at this point. not even a battle between democrats and republicans anymore. some of the republican leaders are trying to apply common sense. they want to make sure the government functions properly. they don't want to fight about the debt ceiling. they want government to do its job. that's what house republicans have to do. they have to do their job. >> i wanted to talk to you about your proposals here, legislation you proposed today to make life a lot easier for women and for families we're talking about expanding the family and medical leave act and universal pre-k. tell me how you plan to make this happen. i know you're going to introduce legislation this week.
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>> it's a common sense proposal, andrea. if more than half our population are women and growing portion of the workforce are women, why wouldn't we tap into the full potential of that workforce. so often it's women doing 70% of the housework, a lot of the child care, housework, have you to give families that flexibility. when a baby is born, primary caregiver, a mom, typically, will need that extra time to get back on her feet and have a few months to nurse her child, really be the mom she wants to be and then come back to work. the same thing happens when parents age, have a parent at home that is ill or needs care and dying. that's the time we want to reward our employees and say take this bit of time, have it be paid. today it's unpaid. for a lot of people, first of all, they are not even eligible for it. moreover, many can't take it because they can't afford it. we want to make this family leave paid and we want it to be something we buy into over the
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course of our careers, an earned benefit so it's there for us when we need it. >> how would you pay for it and what would be the dollar figures? >> the goal would be to make it an earned benefit like social security, basically would cost the amount of a latte a week to pay for this. the employer would match the employee's money. it would be something you pay into your whole life, when you have that great need, when you're having a baby or your mother is dying, that's when you need the help of your employer. companies that do this already, they already say it's great for business. not only does it show investment in employees who they trained and already invested a lot in, it allows them to help in their time of need. those employees they reward employers by coming back to work, ready to work, with great gratitude. companies that do this, we heard from companies like google this morning in our roundtable. they say it helps the business grow, enhances the workforce and
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makes it easy. we also heard about how many small businesses do this and want to do this because it's a paid in benefit that we're all investing in over our years, a small business doesn't have to create a new structure or something they have to a new st something to manage. it's just like social security. >> i know you voted before you started to chat with us, 54-44, the senate has voted to continue the government spending without defunding the president's health care, affordable care act, obama care, whatever we want to call it. before i let you go, i want to ask you to give us an update on the military sexual assault question. i understand you have three generals who have endorsed your approach and most recently we saw a trial going forward in annapolis, a rape case, where the prosecution, which was the military prosecution, really many people believe went after the victim more than you would in a civilian court of justice. tell me how that is progressing. when can you get a vote on your
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proposals? >> we will again have a vote on this kmons sense re -- common sense reform, late november, as early as december. so many victims are asking to take this decision-making out of the chain of command because they don't trust the chain of command. generals have said the reason why we don't have people reporting these crimes because they don't trust us, don't trust the chain of command. we have three prominent generals, highest ranking general female in the army coming out to say this is the right thing. we have the highest ranking psychiatrist from the army coming out to say this is the right thing. we have generals from the marines and other services saying, this is what needs to happen to create transparency and accountability and the objectivity that the victims are asking for that someone will just weigh the evidence fairly and not be biased and doesn't know them or the perpetrator. someone who isn't trying to sweep it under the rug because it looks bad on them.
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someone who actually a trained lawyer. that's what we're looking for. i'm very hopeful that common sense will prevail. >> thank you so much, senator kirsten gillibrand. they have voted in funding the government, 54-44, without cutting off money for obama care. we'll be right back. we all like? ron: i'm sorry, who are you? jc: i'm your coworker! c'mon guys, i'm driving. hey, you guys comfortable? it's best-in-class rear legroom. and with a turbo engine that gets 35 hwy mpg. you know j.d. power ranked passat the most appealing midsize car two years in a row?
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that does it for this edition of quts andrea mitchell reports. thanks to this great new york time while i've been at the u.n. and craig melvin. >> we've enjoyed having you here. coming up in the next hour, breaking news right now, senate leaders are holding a news conference and talking about the bill they just passed to keep the government running through mid-november. we'll bring that to you. that bill though has to go back to the house and with three days before the deadline it remains unclear exactly what speaker boehner and house republicans will do.
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