capitol hill. >> senate decided not to work yesterday. well, my goodness. if there's such an emergency, where are they? >> it is time to stop pandering to the tea party and do what is right. pass the senate compromise, avoid a shutdown driven solely by radical republican. >> the senate and president refuse to work together, refuse to negotiate, refuse to compromise, refuse to talk to us. >> the latest republican shutdown plan continues their war on women. shutting down the government is a dangerous game and the republicans are playing it. and in that game there are no winners and there are only losers. >> kill bill, but the senate will kill the bill when it arrives there an hour from now. then what? we'll hear from all sides. white house communication director dan fefer and house democrat chris van hollen.

call waiting. prime minister netanyahu is with the president today with a very different take whether the president should have dialed up iran's president hassan rouhani. good day. i'm andrea mitchell in new york today. we are hearing from the president now on the possible government shutdown. lets listen. >> a lot of extraneous issues to it that allows us then to negotiate a longer term budget and address a range of issues, but ensures we're not shutting down the government and we're not shutting down the economy at a time when a lot of families are just getting some traction and digging themselves out of the hole we've had as a consequence of the financial crisis. i've said before, congress has two responsibilities, pass a

budget, pay the bills. and i am not only open to but eager to have negotiations around a long-term budget that makes sure that we're investing in middle class families, helping the economy grow, and giving people who are working hard a leg up and greater security and stability and deals with some of our long-term challenges in terms of debt and deficits. but the only way to do that is for everybody to sit down in good faith without threatening to harm women and veterans and children with a government shutdown. certainly we can't have any kind of meaningful negotiations under the cloud of potential default, the first in u.s. history. there's not a world leader, if you took a poll, who would say

that it would be responsible or consistent with america's leadership in the world for us to not pay our bills. we are the foundation of the world economy and the world financial system. and our currency is the reserve currency of the world. we don't mess with that, and we certainly don't allow domestic policy differences on issues that are unrelated to the budget to endanger not only our economy but the world economy. so i suspect that i will be speaking to the leaders today, tomorrow, and the next day. but there's a operate straightforward solution to this. if you set aside the short-term

politics and you look at the long-term here, what it simply requires is everybody to act responsibly and do what's right for the american people. all right? thank you very much, everybody. >> senior adviser to the president joins me now from the white house. dan, why no negotiations? i get that you're not going to walk away from your affordable care act. you're obviously not going to agree with that. why not at least talk? americans want to know why is the white house not talking to the hill? why are the republicans on the hill not talking to the white house? >> as the president said, he'll be talking to congressional leaders. we obviously need to solve these problems. republicans don't want a negotiation. they want a list of demands if we don't meet those they will shut down the economy. that's not a negotiation. that's nothing the president can -- they want to delay obama care for a year.

what happens two months from now, after that? we have to end this cycle of brinksmanship and hostage taking that republicans are so enthralled with these days. >> any give on the tax component which a lot of democrats support repealing that tax? >> not in this context. they have a job, they should pass the budget. pass a clean cr, clean continuing resolution that will keep the government funded the next two months. the only thing stopping that is 60 to 70 tea party republicans are preventing the speaker from putting such a bill on the floor. a choice to make. shut down the government to try to rerun the 2012 election or keep the government funding and ensure people in the economy don't get hurt. >> any back channel conversations? used to be joe biden could at least pick up the phone and call mitch mcconnell. i know the problem is on the house side. don't you have any relationships you can count on someone can call a house republican and say

lets cut a deal. >> people are talking to folks on the hill, of course. the problem is not democrats, republicans not agreeing, it's republicans and republicans not agreeing. right now ted cruz is calling the shots for the republican party. everyone is following his lead. there's not a partner to negotiate with on the other side right now, to have a conversation with on the issues related to government funding. >> how concerned are you about the glitches experienced already in the software for the rollout of the affordable care act? >> we've had one principle from the beginning, implementation of the affordable care act. we find a problem, we fib it. tomorrow is a very important day. tomorrow for the first time millions of americans who have lived with the fear they are one illness away from bankruptcy or foregoing health care they need because they aren't able to afford it will start getting health insurance. that's going to happen. we're confident how the implementation is going to go forward. >> you are pretty confident given the polling that house republicans will be blamed for

this. you said that context already. the american people are going to blame all of washington, the white house and congress if the government does shut down, if the markets tank or continue to tank. they are already taking a hit. >> right. >> if they see, in fact, more costs because the shutdown itself entails cost. the budget impact is a negative impact. >> i don't think what matters here is where the blame is allocated. i think american people know who is responsible for this. what matters is people are going to be hurt. there are folks who will go without pay. small businesses won't get paid for contracts. veterans will not have anyone to call when they try to access their benefits. >> aren't you betting they will be blamed more than the president. >> i'm sure they will be and should be. i'm not worried about the blame. what the president wants is a solution that keeps the government funded. what we can't do is every time a government funding bill comes forward and necessary to pay the bills that congress has already

rung up, they get to extract something they can't by other means, they want something that can't pass elections, on their own. they want to use government shutdown or economic shutdown. we can't let that happen. >> dan pfeifer, thanks very much. back in session if the house sends the bill to keep government open but defund obama care, harry reid sis they will quickly shiite it down. with no one blinking will it be possible to avert midnight madness. chuck todd, host of the daily rundown and msnbc news luke russert. luke, first to you. lets talk about this brinksmanship. what would john boehner say to what dan pfeifer just said, there aren't going to be any conversations because there's nothing to negotiate? >> well, i think the speaker certainly -- they have been playing this hot potato about you didn't call me. you should have called me over the last week, this whole idea the president is on the phone

with the head of iran but won't talk with the speaker, that was sort of the back and forth. i do think john boehner would take the president's call as procedurally. i think it's very interesting, though, andrea, 2:00 the house gop conference said to meet on capitol hill. there's where john boehner will learn where his caucus is. they passed the bill out early sunday morning. yesterday someone on the senate step staged a pep rally. stop obstructing our bill, the one that defund the president's health care law for a year. not going anywhere with harry reid. options will become apparent at that 2:00 meeting. from conversations i've had they include a wide array. possibly the house sending back the government funding bill, one-year delay of the individual mandate, the idea the government pay in premiums to staffers on capitol hill would be cut so gives the republicans ability to say harry reid was protecting his own heck and didn't want to be on the same track of the

american people in terms of the exchanges. third, you could have somewhat of a delay or clean cr. the votes are there for the clean cr, interestingly enough, andrea, there are at least 20 republicans that would go along with democrats in the conversations i've had but not clear john boehner wants to go that route now and risk alienating that conservative bloc of his conference. >> exactly. i was talking to a house republican chairman last night. they both said this can pass as long as they don't have the so-called hastert rule, as long as boehner agrees to let majority rule. chuck, is that the betting at the white house that boehner is going to cave? >> no, they assume the shutdown is coming. they don't see any signs of this. they are perfectly prepared for it. but you know, andrea, there's just too many little pieces of evidence out there. more republicans are essentially breaking from conservatives saying this is not the way it have the fight. this is not the way to have the

showdown. does boehner take the one week or two week or three week out? if he takes it out, he automatically lumps in funding of the government and debt ceiling in one big fight in the middle of october, which is boehner thinks -- boehner and paul ryan, by the way, one of the quieter voices on capitol hill, they have been arguing internally that's the better play, that's where your have leverage. there are obviously these other conservatives who think this is not the play. i think part of this has to do with tomorrow the lights get turned on on another part of the health care law. there's this notion among conservatives if they shut down the government tonight the health care law doesn't start up tomorrow. that's not true. but i think they have that in their head or at least some of their constituents do and i wonder how much is driving this? >> andrea, if i can speak to that quickly, chuck is absolutely correct. i spoke to a house member on the conservative side.

he said there's a desire to have a picket charge before october 1st. when october 1st comes along the president's health care law comes into action and becomes this federal entitlement there forever, one last hurrah against it. that's definitely part of the thinking here which may mean the calendar could perhaps cool gop opposition after a few days once the law goes forward. it's absolutely fascinating to witness. >> one little comparison back to 1995 and '96 when some of us are covering. we had appropriations bill then. there was a budget process. it could be more severe if it goes for an extended period of time. no appropriations rule, nothing was passed. an incredible do nothing congress. >> it was a partial shutdown 17 years ago because you had a bunch of bills pass. this is a complete shutdown. there are things they change to ensure some services go on no matter what. they don't get shut down no matter what.

there's still a big chunk of this that does get shutdown. so it will be more expensive. remember, that shutdown cost nearly $100 million a day in extra taxpayer dollars when all is said and done. guess what, these government workers get paid back pay and then they have no work they got done during that period. this allows for a chunk of this. >> chuck, stop right there, my friend. there's no guarantee those federal workers would get paid. congress would have to pass that out. that's one of the things that is worrisome to a lot of federal workers because there's no guarantee this house republican conference would pay them at all. that is an unbelievably underreported story going on, there could be severe financial hardship for those folks. >> one of the things to put on the table, guys, there's this myth where america hates government workers until their checks don't arrive or they

can't get a passport application approved. but the fact is government workers are mostly working in middle class families all across america. >> andrea, did you read the article in the "washington post" today? there was a gentleman doing rights on at the national zoo. he's working two jobs, father of six, trying to pay back college tuition. he's like what's happening to this country. these aren't lazy workers, washington, d.c., all around the country, people like to speak of them but i suspect you'll hear a lot electric them if this happens over the next few days. >> chuck, if the white house sees that the house republicans are going this way, do you think there's any give at all from the white house perspective? >> none. i think they see no upside. andrea, think about 17 years ago. seventeen years ago president

clinton was not in a good place. president obama has had some troubles but he's in a better place politically than president clinton was house and senate republicans were united on the strategy in 1995, they controlled house and senate. i know john boehner made this argument and case to some of these new conservatives who have no idea what happened in '95 and why things went south for the republican party when they actually had kings and aces in their hand. on this one they don't have a good hand to play. they are bluffing. they got nothing. the question is going to be if they end up shutting down the government for three or for days, politically they have no shot using the debt ceiling. that's why i think ultimately my gut is they come up with some sort of short-term solution that keeps the lights on in the government because there is that sense they somehow can extract concession on the debt ceiling. i'm skeptical they can do that. if they believe they need to keep that leverage, they can't

afford to shut down now. >> we have to leave it there. chuck, that's why we have not heard from the house budget chair until we get to where things get serious. luke and chuck, thanks so much. while the house debated late in the night saturday, tina fey came back to kick off "saturday night live's" 39th season in new york. the snl alum welcomed five new cast members with playful hazing. first the show opened with a takedown of obama care with a little help from "breaking bad." >> i am psyched for obama care. >> there you go. i love that enthusiasm. >> because now that i've got free health care, i can get sick all the time. >> i had this friend. well, he got sick. like cancer sick. because there wasn't obama care, he couldn't afford the treatments, so he was like backed into a corner. you know what i mean? >> and keep in mind, this man

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house republicans are going to meet in an hour to decide whether to keep ping-ponging or look for a way out of the showdown. well, are you going to send this bill back to the senate? the poison pill. i know you voted on it at 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning.

>> the house passed the bill saturday night. the united states senate went to the beach and chuck schumer had a nice little coffee this morning. i saw him doing an interview from new york. i don't understand why the united states senate still has not convened. if there's so much urgency, which we feel, why does the united states not come back into action? >> they might have asked why you didn't do it thursday night, why you waited until friday afternoon to send it back to them. >> well, we did it as fast as we can. i would also ask the president why didn't he submit a budget back in february. there are reasons that lead up to this. there's urgency now with hours left on the clock, get the united states senate convened and pass something. >> congressman, the bill that you were going to pass is dead on arrival. we know that, because they are not going to repeal or defund or delay. >> everybody keeps saying that but they should vote on that. >> you've voted on it several times.

lets get real for a second. will you given the fact there's a number of house republicans that don't agree with you on that, people in our own caucus, what about having something passed without hastert rule, what about majority rule in the house of representatives to avoid hurting people who are really going to be hurt, federal workers and others who use federal services if this shutdown tas plakes place. >> i do like majority rule. we had a couple of democrats join us pass a bill. one of the things we put in there is a repeal of the medical device tax. in the united states senate they had a repeal on the medical device tax. we passed unanimously a bill to fund the troops. this should be passed by united states senate. we're trying. we're passing something out. work with us, united states senate. don't take us right to the finish line. that's what they are doing. >> what about the fact you put

in the exemption for the waiver for contraception and reproductive health for women. that's also dead on arrival. that's a new element added. what if you, okay, wanted to deal with repealing the tax which does have support in the senate, democratic support, what about not delaying obama care, not defunding it but working out something on the tax side alone and sending that back. >> the process set up in the constitution. what united states senate needs to do is make adjustments and send it back to us. when they are not even convened, not even talking, doing interviews monday morning from new york, you can see why those of us in washington, d.c. have a case to be made. make adjustments necessary. adjustment tax is an example where they had 75 members of the united states senate approve or be in favor of repealing that. >> congressman, is there any way, given the time -- you're coming back, they are coming

back. are you definitely going to send that bill to them? is that where we stand right now or would you reconsider? >> no, it's in the senate's hands. until the senate sends something to the house of representatives, there's nothing for us to do other than continue to talk through all the possibilities. we sent it to them saturday night. >> what are you going to do at the conference? >> well, the speaker is leading this. have a discussion about the array of possibilities, i guess, out there. i don't know what's on the agenda? >> would you consider backing off on the demand that obama care be defunded or delayed? >> well, we went from defunding, which i've now voted for some 40 plus times. i think a delay is a reasonable expectation. i believe the obama administration unilaterally and multiple times over the last several months has cherry picked which parts they are going to delay. it's not ready -- this is my opinion. i don't care what john mccain thinks. andrea, i don't care what john mccain thinks. >> the election was held largely

on the subject of obama care, of the affordable care act. >> absolutely. >> john mccain, he lost. the supreme court ruled. it's a fact of life. you wouldn't expect the president to back off his crowning achievement from his point of view. why not fight this on another issue. >> andrea, nancy pelosi and democrats controlled the house in 2008 when they passed this monstrosity. she was the one who said we need to pass it in order to find out what's in it. guess what, the election of 2010 had a sweeping change. republicans came sweeping in to take control of the house. i, too, won an election. do you want me to disregard all my voters and all the promises i made and how i got elected? there were lots of people who got elected particularly in 2010 on this issue and to say you should forget about that because of president obama's lec. we can't do that. there has to be some respect we, too, were elected of the majority of the people who serve in the house of representatives are republicans because the

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shutdown i'm joined by ranking member of the house budget committee chris van hollen. thanks very much. >> good to be here. >> you represent a lot of people directly affected by this. no matter what public opinion might say, these are average americans, working men and women, who are not going to get paid. what is the solution to this? >> you're right, andrea. this is a disgraceful situation we're in right now. it can be averted if speaker boehner were to decide to allow the clean resolution, if he were to allow that to vote in the house of representatives i'm confident it would pass with a combination of democratic and republican votes. >> lets understand what the state of play is. the house overnight saturday night passed a bill which would delay affordable care act. and also include so-called conscious amendment on

contraception and other reproductive rights. there are a lot of things that would not be acceptable to the white house. that's in the senate right now. what action is pending in the house, if anything? >> well, not right now but very shortly there will be. because harry reid said they are going to vote to take out provisions that say they could stay open if you undermine the affordable care act. at that point they will send the bill back to the house with a clean cr, a clean continuing resolution. at that point the speaker has a choice to make. will he allow the full house, the people's house, to have a vote, in which case i believe it would pass and the government would remain open, or is he going to attach another unrelated provision to try to undermine the affordable care act going forward. if he chooses the latter, he

will be shutting down the government. if he allows a vote, i do believe it will pass, again, on a bipartisan basis. >> when i was just asking congressman chaffetz on this issue, there was an lec, a ruling and people decided about the affordable care act, for better or worse, he said we also had an election and carried the house based largely on people's rejection of so-called obama care. does he have a point? well, andrea, he's talking about 2010. after that point there was a presidential election. a couple of things happened. one, the supreme court upheld the law. number two, that was a heavily litigated and debated appoint in the presidential election where mitt romney wanted to overturn the law, and the president said he would implement the law. second we've made it clear to colleagues, they were prepared

to make adjustments and fix glitches. they are not interested in that. they voted 42 times to dismantle, gut the law. clearly their objective is not to try to make improvements necessary to make it work even better, their objective is to undermine the entire thing, even though i might add the house republicans passed a budget that would not be balanced except for the fact they keep big parts of the affordable care act. they are trying to have it both ways. the budget wouldn't be in balance. they shouldn't be running around the country saying both things at the same time. >> congressman, is there a way to avoid this? are you calling the chair committee, talking about how to avoid this and how to avoid the debt ceiling crisis before the 17th? >> first of all, on this issue, the path forward, as i said, is

very clear. the speaker should simply allow the bill. after all in the senate harry reid had an up or down vote on their provision to undo the affordable care act. over here in the house the american people should give the benefit of an up or down vote whether we should have a clean bill to fund the government. if he wants to vote against that, he should not impose that on the whole country when the votes are here. second, i'm very concerned about the issue you just raised. republicans are now talking about doubling down on the strategy with respect to the debt ceiling which would go from a reckless action closing down the government to one that is really dangerous for the economy. if the united states were to not pay our bills on time for the first time in history, that would have a devastating impact on the economy. i hope they won't double down on

this dangerous strategy going forward. we have said we want to negotiate on all the budget issues. as you know, we have been blocked by the speaker from appointing negotiators on that budget process. again, we would love to get back to the table on the budget issues and negotiate those without tying them to either government shutdowns or refusal to pay our bills on time. >> thank you very much. chris van hollen, thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> next, a impact a government shutdown would have far beyond washington. because all these s aren't healthy unless you actually eat them ♪ multigrain cheerios. also available in delicious peanut butter. healthy never tasted so sweet.

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if there's a government shutdown, immediately government workers will be furloughed including the national parks service. people around the country are reacting to the stalemate in washington. >> i never would have thought that it would come to this. >> i hate to say it, but it just seems to be more incompetent all

the time. >> there's got to be some way they can do this. use your brains. there's great leaders that aren't doing what they are supposed to do and that's lead. >> everyone is acting like a child. i don't understand why they don't realize it's about them and about the people of the united states. >> nbc's john yang in north riverside, illinois. john, lets talk about who is affected, who is not. you're outside a post office. postal services will continue but not all services. explain. >> that's exactly right, andrea. the main will keep moving. if you go to a post office to apply for a passport or renew a passport, that application may be delayed. same thing with social security benefits. the money will keep coming, benefits will keep coming but applications for new benefits may be delayed. requests for things like a social security card to get a job, that may be delayed as well. federal courts will be operating. they are considered essential services.

they say they have got enough money to operate as normal for the first 15 days or so. that includes juror fees. after that juror fees may be delayed. andrea. >> john yang in illinois. the military is a moving target in this scenario. msnbc's craig melvin live mcguire, dix. ft. dix. where are you? >> you're right, andrea. it's called joint base mcguire-dix-lakehurst in new jersey. this government shutdown, abstract to a lot of people, not the folks filing in behind me, 6700 civilian employees who show up every day. i just spoke to the deputy commander a few moments ago. he said if the government shuts down, everyone still has to report tomorrow morning as usual. however, they will determine who is essential, who is not essential. they are working through that

right now. those deemed essential to the operation tomorrow they will stay, the rest of the folks will have to go home. just a few months ago, this the place where the majority of the civilian workforce was furloughed several days as a result of those automatic cuts known as sequester. this concept that a lot of folks are talking about, real world implications here in southern new jersey as is the case at military installations all over this country. >> craig melvin, thanks so very much. today eric holder announced department of justice suing south carolina for racial discrimination on the voter id laws. >> state legislature took extremely aggressive steps to curtail the voting rights of african-americans. this is an intentional step to break a system that was working. it defies common sense. i and my colleagues at every level of the justice department

will never hesitate, never hesitate to do all we must do to protect the constitutionally guaranteed civil rights of all americans. >> nbc's justice correspondent pete williams joins me now. where does this suit sit, go from here. >> just filed in federal court so the state will respond. what the government is claiming, not only voter ids but requirements enacted when it was signed into effect in august. it cuts seven days off early voting. the government contends that especially affects minority voters since they are the heaviest users of minority voting. it stops same day registration and says if you accidentally cast your ballot in the wrong precinct unlike in the past where it would be set aside and count if it was determined to be cast by an honest mistake, now it won't count at all. you put that together, it's very telling. they believe this will have the effect of discouraging minority

voters. they claim that's why the state passed it. it was intentionally done to do that. so they are going to ask this be set aside, this rule be stopped. they are also going to ask a judge to say from now on north carolina has to get federal permission when it wants to make any changes at all in-laws that affect voting, andrea. >> pete williams. thanks so much. markets reacting to government shutdown. more on that coming up next.

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administration on iran's nuclear program now at the john f. kennedy school of government at harvard. thanks very much for being with us. as you know for mr. netanyahu here today, seeing the president, seeing the secretary of state and warning that we are being taken in, that the administration is too trusting of iran. do you think that israel would actually take the step of military action to take out one of iran's new nuclear reactors before it goes on line with plutonium in the context of the united states's outreach to the new iranian president? >> well, fortunately the startup of that reactor has been delayed probably next year and maybe further. i don't think that's an immediate issue. in any event, i do think israelis will have to play out the hand and see if there's anything real in the offer by rouhani to try to negotiate an agreement. >> jerusalem post front page as the prime minister was heading

here makes it clear he's going to, quote, reveal the true face of the iranian regime to obama. seeking reaffirmation of the right to self-defense, they are going on very strongly feeling they have been undercut by administration's outreach. does this put the president on the defensive or is netanyahu on the defensive? >> i think it's a mistake for prime minister netanyahu to make this about israel. i think it's more important that he indicate that he would welcome a diplomatic agreement if it truly led to a removal of the nuclear threat from iran and then let the u.s. see whether or not it can make something of this. but the more that prime minister netanyahu makes this about israel's concerns, then i think the danger for israel is they will be blamed if the diplomatic effort fails. >> should the diplomatic effort -- will it succeed?

what is your take away? we've talk about this, whether rouhani is the real deal, enough running room to negotiate given the fact there were protests when he returned from new york? >> i would say right now, based on what president rouhani has said, he certainly does not have the ability to deliver the kind of concessions washington will demand as a condition for lifting the most fundamental sanctions. but it's early in the process now. sanctions are having a very punishing effect on iran's economy. so down the road, as these negotiations proceed, the supreme leader might give rouhani more flexibility to accept limits on iran's enrichment program so the agreement is possible. at this stage i would say the two sides of very far apart on essential issues. >> finally is there another effect with all these dominoes in the region where netanyahu will take a harder line against the administration and against

the palestinians on the middle east peace negotiations because he has been put in the box somewhat by the outreach to iran. >> i think that's an interesting question, the interplay between palestine, syria, iran. all of them to some extent proceed on separate tracks but there certainly is in interaction. i have no doubt is that netanyahu would like the white house to believe that the tougher the white house is on iran, the more flexible he can be on the palestinian issue and vice verse is a, the more he fears that washington will not stand up to iran, the more difficult it is for him to make concessions with respect to the palestinians. >> gary samore, thank you very much. how are the markets reactsing to a possible government shutdown? that up next. you raise her spirits. we tackled your shoulder pain. you make him rookie of the year. we took care of your cold symptoms. you take him on an adventure.

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the markets shuderred as the government braces for a shutdown then came back up.

are the markets discounting this and waiting for the big bang, which would be debt ceiling showdown? >> well, there's some people on wall street, andrea who think a shutdown now would be better because it would be the big fight then maybe that would avoid a fight over the debt ceiling. we are off the lows, off 88 points. markets had been falling as it became clear there was some type of shutdown. most people are betting it won't be long and what we've really seen are people buying u.s. government debt, treasuries which is a sign of confidence to pay it and trying to avoid the volatility stocks and move into bonds, which on a short term basis seems safer for now until we get through the situation. >> again, it ends up costing the government money to shut down even for a while. we keep going from crisis to crisis. overall this is long-term really bad for the economy? >> well, so we've had crisis after crisis and yet the market climbed above and beyond that over and over again. recovered every single time.

long-term what the markets are concerned about is how much debt the u.s. is accumulating and there has to be less of it down the road for there to be continuing confidence in the u.s. economy. >> michelle caruso-cabrera. thanks, that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." my colleague tamron hall has a look at what's next. >> in the next hour, breaking news, a lot of talk all day long. there will be some action within the next hour. the senate will convene in just a few minutes, expected to reject a house republican bill to fund the government and delay obama care. it goes back to the house. what speaker boehner's next move here? plus, the justice department announces a plan to sue north carolina alleging racial discrimination in the state's voter i.d. law. a lot of developments in the next hour. stick around, we'll be up in three minutes. in the nation, sometimes bad things happen. add brand new belongings from nationwide insurance

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i'm tamron hall, "news nation" is following big breaking news. senate reconvening right now to take action that could determine whether the government would shut down in ten hours and cost taxpayers 40 to $80 million a day. the house approved the bill on sunday and that refuses to fund the government past midnight tonight unless key parts of the president's healthcare law are delayed by a year. in just the past hour after a meeting with israeli prime minister netanyahu, president obama talked about what he expects next. >> i've said before, congress has two responsibilities, pass a budget, pay the bills. there's a pretty straight forward solution to this. if you set aside the