because you can't beat zero heartburn. woo hoo! [ male announcer ] prilosec otc is the number one doctor recommended frequent heartburn medicine for 8 straight years. one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. hi, everyone, i'm tamron hall. 14 hours now into the government shutdown and conventional wisdom at this hour is someone needs to cave today or the shutdown could last a long time. just within the past hour, president obama from the rose garden stood firm blaming republicans for a quote idealogical crusade aimed at his health care program. >> as long as i'm president, i will not give in to reckless demands by some in the

republican party to deny affordable health insurance to millions of hard working americans. i want the republicans in congress to know, these are the americans you'd hurt if you were allowed to dismantle this law. >> as the first order of business the senate rejected a house proposal to create a bipartisan committee to hash out an end to the impasse. but senate budget committee chairman patty murray of washington called the house gop move, quote ironic, saying democrats tried 18 times to go to conference this year and were blocked by republicans. meantime, the blame game raged on. >> we have a situation where we have a good day of an ar kists. >> they'll say it was the mean old republicans or the tea party or fox news or maybe even george w. bush. they shut down the government

and now praying the american people will think somebody else is responsible. >> while the partisan bickering rages, paying the price for the shutdown after being called in for a half day of work to shut things down, more than 800,000 people now being sent home on furlough and won't be paid until this is all over. >> i won't be working and i won't be making a living until they decide to accepted us base work. >> if it's weeks, that could be a serious problem. >> we wouldn't be able to get along without paying for a month or two, it would affect us dramatically. >> among the other effects of the government shutdown, the cdc, center for disease control, announcing because of furloughs, it will stop investigating and tracking illness outbreaks. not impacted, today's rollout of

the health care law, the opening of online exchanges. we've been seeing technical glitches in a number of states. more on that ahead. whether there's any hope of ending government shutdown soon. kelly o'donnell is standing by. the last government shutdown, 21 days as i mentioned at the top of the show, the conventional wisdom is we don't see movement today, this could mean the long haul. what is that defined as right now? >> reporter: i've been asking that of every office holder i meet, i hear from a few days to a couple of weeks and to when the debt ceiling fight will be at its fever pitch later this month. sources in both parties are saying there's talk of the house trying to take interim steps, incremental moves that could pass some bills that relate to protecting things likes veterans affairs, for example. this is similar to the program where they were able to keep the

military checks coming. the house passioned it and senate passed it and the president signed it last night and they released a video for the troops overnight saying they would get paychecks. is it possible they will take a step at a time approach to try to restore pieces of the government? that's one thing that is being discussed right now. we'll see how that unfolds through the day. that isn't the same as turning the lights back on and bringing back all of the employees, but it might be one kind of way where they can show action and find some areas of common ground when you pick areas of the federal government or federal employees or benefits that are most harmful when they are suspended and try to address that. that's something we're watching right now, tamron. aside from that, there is a lot of posturing today and framing of the argument of who is to blame and why did this happen. it's going to be a real wait and see game. we are all kind of settling in for what could be a very, long

period of time of trying to move this forward. sometimes you'll see a flurry of activity and things move quickly. there aren't any signs this will be resolved right away. but this incremental step might be something that could show some cooperation and maybe begin to open the doors again. but so far official kinds of conversations between the senate and house, those aren't happening. it really is about what's going on within the republican conference and what might they try to do to look like they are taking steps. >> kelly o'donnell, thank you very much. joining me now live, chris van holen of maryland. thanks again for your time. >> good to be with you, tamron. >> what is happening behind the scenes that you can privy us too? >> we're not sure what's happening in the house republican caucus right now but here's one thing for sure, the way you can resolve this issue today is if the speaker of the house allowed the full house of representatives, the people's house to have a vote on the clinton continuing resolution

that keeps federal government open without extraneous provisions of trying to shut down the affordable care act. people have to ask the question why they won't allow that vote. if he wants to vote against it, he should do it. but i'm actually confident that there are enough democrats and republicans combined together to get a majority to pass at. i don't know why he's afraid of our democracy, why he's scared to have that vote. if the vote doesn't succeed, then we'd have to move on but the speaker is never even allowed us the opportunity to vote on that right now, tamron. >> let me play take little bit of what the speaker said last night regarding the president and talks that took place, a brief 15-minute phone call made last night. let me play that. >> i talked to the president earlier tonight. i'm not going to negotiate. i'm not going to negotiate. not going to do this. well, i would say to the president, this is not about me. it's not about republicans here in congress. it's about fairness for the

american people. >> you know, it's interesting this last ditch proposal that included a bipartisan committee to hash this out. as i noted senator murray said, listen, we've tried 18 times to go to conference this year with republicans. did they not believe that people were counting that that somehow we would not note responsibly that this was a tactic? >> i'm glad you asked that, tamron. the speaker's comments are a total mischaracterization of the president's position. senator murray 18 times asked for unanimous consent to go to budget negotiations with the house. in the house, we tried repeatedly to get the speaker to appoint budget negotiators for a budget. in fact, i have in my hand, a resolution that i introduced in april of this year that says the speaker should immediately request a conference, meaning he should propose negotiators on the budget, to complete work on

a fiscal year 2014 budget resolution with the senate. three times we tried to get a vote on this issue and three times the speaker and republicans in the house said no to negotiations. because they didn't want to compromise. they had a calculated deliberate strategy, not to negotiate for months and months and instead drive the country to the edge of a cliff, first on a government shutdown and next on the debt ceiling, in order to try to extract totally unrelated demands, trying to shut down the affordable care act. trying to get their demands on other issues that have nothing to do with the budget. we have been trying to negotiate for months. they said no, this is unfortunately a rus, as i said, the way to keep the government open is let the people's house have a vote on a clean cr. that's the way democracy is supposed to work. unfortunately the speaker has handed control over to the most

reckless elements of his caucus. >> republican leaders suggest passing a series of small funding bills to reopen individual federal agencies or programs at current spending levels according to a senior house aide. but as you know, congressman, when you look at the polls, people are willing to blame both sides despite the position you just pointed out and having your proof of some kind of negotiation or offer to negotiate, that some of this stick on vote parties. what do you say to those looking at the interview and say, i don't care, i want them to hash it out and fix it and make the government work? >> look, tamron, nobody wins in this situation, least of all the country. there's no doubt about that. i understand people are very frustrated. i represent lots of federal employees. what is happening is absolutely disgraceful. i would ask that the american public follow this debate

because it is very unusual for one party to take the position that they are going to shut down the government if they don't get their way on unrelated demands. frankly, you don't have to take my words for it. it was the republican of north carolina, who seaid this was th dumbest idea they ever heard, the idea of shutting down the government if you don't get your way and shutting down obama care. senator mccain called the strategy ir rationale, but the speaker has instead listened to senator cruz. i understand people's frustration, but i'm citing statements by republican senators and senator burr said it was the worst idea he's ever seen and now living with the implementation of what a republican senator said was the worst idea. this isn't just democrats, you have a battle within the republican party between the reckless right wing and very conservative folks who are

willing to compromise. >> sir, that can't be ignore. on quts morning joe" saying the same thing, he's a republican, saying that this debate should not be tied into the implementation or furthering of obama care. >> that's my point. so again, i understand people's frustrations and i certainly understand the temptation, but that's why i say, listen to what republican senators, people who are very conservative senators and willing to compromise and negotiate, listen to what they are saying. they are the people who said, this was the worst idea they ever heard of and said it was irration irrational. what you have in the house is the speaker is handed control over to the most reckless part of his caucus, the part of the caucus listening to senator cruz, not the part of the caucus listening to people like senator mccain and other conservative

senators willing to compromise and try and keep things functioning. >> just quickly, i've got to ask you, congressman cole was on "morning joe" and says it's appropriate that the speaker is advocating to go to congress. both sides should sit down and negotiate. is that still dead on arrival in your opinion? >> it's not dead on arrival to try to negotiate on the budget. i want to emphasize we've been trying to do. what is dead on arrival is this idea which republican senators have said was the dumbest idea ever, they are going to use the conference committee to threaten to shut down the government if they don't shut down aspects of the affordable care act. that's what's irrational and what they are saying. they want to go to conference to negotiate on that issue. what we've seen said we need to negotiate on all issues because the inability to reach agreement on other budget issues is at the

core of what's happening right now. by all means we should sit down and negotiate, but not under the threat of a government shutdown. that's the big issue we're seeing right now. >> chris vanhollen, thanks for your time. syst still ahead, more than 1 million people visited health care.com in the last day. five times more users than ever been on medicaid's website at one time. next, what are people saying about the rollout so far and a glimpse at how much the plan costs. plus, an arrest in a shocking case of road rage. a man is chased down by dozens of bikers before being dragged out of his vehicle and attacked in front of his wife and 2-year-old child. what the police say about the incident and there's been an arrest connected to it. also, just hours ago, israeli prime minister netanyahu adretsed the general assembly, his hard message when it comes to iran's nuclear program.

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for over seven hours the administration says more than 1 million people have visited health care.gov in the last day. they also point out that's five times more than that's on the marketplace website than that i have seen on the medicare site at a single time. there have been some glitches with the rollout, the administration says it's largely

due to a high volume of online traffic. early on visitors in some states were greeted with a please wait message and at least 24 states with federally run insurance exchanges, high traffic volume triggered error messages as well. four hours due to a technical problem. a senior administration official says they are working to fix the issues, we've build a dynamic system and prepared to make adjustments as needed and consumer experience. as americans get their first look at the marketplace, there's a lot to navigate, especially with multiple plans available. the insurance plans to remind you range from platinum to gold, silver and bronze. under the bronze plan, for example, you would pay a lower premium with a higher share of costs when you get care. platinum plans have the highest monthly premium with the lowest out-of-pocket costs. now under the law out-of-pocket costs include deductibles and

co-insurance and co-payments for covered services plus all costs for services that are not covered. the administration of course as you well know is counting on many young people, young americans to buy into this plan. for a 27-year-old who buys into the least expensive silver plan, that would cost an average of $203. or $2436 a year without tax credits but it varies in different states. in tennessee, $155 a month. in wyoming, around $324 a month. if the same 27-year-old chose the bronze plan, which is the lowest, the average cost would be around $163 a month which adds up to less than $2,000 a year. it's cheapest in oklahoma at $114 a month and most expensive in wyoming at $286 a month. there are still so many others to consider. let's go to mark potter in miami working with people to get signed up. we hear from a lot of people who

say it's kind of confusing, they go on and understand. we worked at this company, i remember my first day and look at the health care options and we take a step back and you end up asking the person, what did you sign up for. this is not an unusual experience when you're signing up for health care. >> reporter: you have counselors to talk to. you don't have to ask me questions. that's probably better. we're at the medical center in miami which services 17,000 low income patients a year here, two thirds do not have insurance and for today therefore is a big day at this clinic. it's quiet right now but today most of this morning, about 50 people did fill out applications for insurance under the affordable care act. because of that computer glitch you were talking about, what happened here was they took their information and also their phone number and said that when they are able to formalize that application and hit the button

and the computer works and it sends it, they'll get everybody in here to do that. despite that, officials say this is a very important day for low income patients. people are very happy they are going to have health care access. there's confusion about the enrollment but many understand the red tape that sometimes does happen when you enroll into a program. >> reporter: an issue with the program in florida, a million extremely poor people who would have qualified under an expended medicaid program will not get that because the state of florida decided not to accept a $50 billion offer over ten years from the federal government to expand that plan. what the experts here at the clinic say the practical result of that is that many of those people will not even be able to afford the insurance offered here under obama care and remain uninsured and continue to have get the health care at clinics

like this and crowded emergency rooms. >> is there a common complaint or concern you're hearing from the people? as you pointed out there were more earlier at that particular location. >> reporter: the only complaint that we've heard is about the computer glitch. they can come in here, they can file their applications but they cannot hit the go button to make it happen. they can't formally file it yet so they had to leave and come back. that's the only complaint. they signed up people pretty quickly from what we can see in terms of the patients at this clinic. >> mark pot everter. joining me now, jonathan capehart and michael sheerer. thanks for your time. >> darrel issa released to a statement, says in part these glitches which the president is trying to brush off reveal how totally unprepared the government is for the launch even with 3.5 years to prepare.

the white house is saying they have an overwhelming amount of traffic people interested and getting more information. but at the heart of this the problem the republicans say the public would have with obama care is not a glitch online. people will be stunned by the price or small businesses would ends up having to shuder up because they can't afford healthcare, not because of website glitches that could happen to any website honestly. >> i've been talking to the obama administration folks for months about the rollout. every time i talk to them, they acknowledge that they expected there to be glitches. they would expect there to be these technical problems. i don't think tlir sense is look this is a six-month roll out, there's an enrollment period that people can sign up. they anticipate measuring the success by what's happened by the end of three months or four months or five months.

then by then we will actually understand whether people are also reacting negativively to the actual substance of what they are being offered on the exchanges or whether the complaints today are really about the technical stuff. >> which is the point i was making, the heart is the cost and whether or not you'll have people going online today and saying, i can't afford this or this is far more than i expected, not again that it took 35 minutes to get someone on a call, which is if you call an airline and they are running a fare sale, something you would experience as well. >> the president talked about that, the delays getting an iphone when they first come out and people don't complain about that. on the cost, i don't think we know yet. everybody will have a different reaction and depend on how much they make. it certainly seemed with some of the numbers that the administration put out these would be low enough that people would be pleasantly surprised. part of it will depend on folks going into these exchanges and whether or not they qualify for

subsidies which do lower the premiums more than what the insurance companies offer. all of that will go into the mix. once the technical glitches are taken care of, we'll get a sense of how people are reacting to them. >> jonathan, let me bring you in. you went to north carolina and spoke with a number of people before the official launch. back to what michael and i were discussing, you can have an initial reaction to anything prior to but in the end it does boil down to the cost here and if people will be stunned by that when all of this other rhetoric and issues settle down. >> yeah, one of things we found was that people were concerned about whether their current insurance prices, would they get a better deal from the exchanges. we talked to a lot of people and the people we talked to ran the range from people who were dead set against what they called obama care, affordable care act, and those who were for it. but the thing they all had in common, tamron, was that they

were really unclear about how exactly the health care law would work and what it would actually do and what exactly -- how exactly would they benefit from it. >> that's a common sense question anyone would ask. you have to look at that as a reasonable concern and that's a part of what the administration needs to and has been attempting to explain. i want to play a little bit of the interactions you have. let's play the sound clips from jonathan's interviews. >> do you think the administration has done a good job of educating people on what exactly obama care does or doesn't do? >> it's because it hasn't been implemented for too long. there's still a lot of people that don't know what it's about. if they can qualify for it and i think it's going to take time for those people to know more about it. i know i still need to be educated about it fully. i don't have the details.

>> i don't really understand what's going to happen with affordable care act or obama care. i don't know what will really change. it seems very complex legislation. i think we should try it. i think we should just see what happens. let's try it and see what the results are. >> the fact you don't know about the impact it will have, whose fault is that? >> i blame congress for creating complex legislation, i don't think we should have laws that average people can't understand. >> jonathan, that is a mix or glimpse of something they said to you? >> yes, in fact, the person her first name is fortune -- and her mother, ginger sitting next to her. they were the total liberals of the ones we spoke to. they are 100% behind the

president and 100% hipd the affordable care act. as you saw from what fortune said, she doesn't know how it's going to work. >> michael, to get you back in on this, i don't want to rush the clock here, but are the next 24 hours, 48 hours, what is the critical time period as we watch people enroll and try to understand this more? >> i think despite the fact it's going to take six months to rollout completely, the beginning here, the initial impression people get is going to be important partly because if people hear through the grapevine it's not working and there's no point and they shouldn't show up, you know the administration will have a tougher time convincing people to sign up. if they go on here and say this is a lot more expensive than it ought to be. the young healthy people that the insurance companies needs to balance off the coast, they are not going to sign up and the whole thing falls apart ultimately and that will be the big test.

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60% of americans disapprove of the job the democrats are doing, a larger percentage, 74% disapprove of the job the republicans are doing. for many americans there's enough blame to go around. chuck todd spoke with very frustrated tourists in d.c. >> who do you blame? >> me personally? i blame both sides. >> if it shuts down, who do you blame? >> oh, man, i'd say everybody. >> why does it have to come out last minute? we had how long to figure out a balanced budget. i don't get to do this at home when balancing my budget. >> roger simon writes a scathing op-ed, one does not know whether to laugh or cry. we live in a time when outright buff foony passes for statesmanship. roger is with us now. it's incredible these images. i want to show our audience, world war ii vets arrived in d.c. after an honor flight from mississippi, one man had waited ten years to be there to see the

memorial there. and they were initially told they could not tour due to the government shutdown but a group of congressman, we don't no it was a mix of republicans and democrats, they moved in and moved the barriers and let's them in to see the memorial. this is the kind of bad press -- i don't know if it's considered press, a glimpse of things going on and why people have disdain for members of congress. >> absolutely. it's sad. haven't these veterans given enough for their country that they can't tour a memorial. what it also said, i hear some of those people in the picture sew you're seeing are republicans who voted for the shutdown. then they rushed before the cameras to push aside the barricades so there won't be a shutdown. why did they vote for it? nothing would please me more than to say both sides are

guilty, i've been a fair journalist, that's it. but sometimes you can't say that. both sides are not equally guilty here. this is a republican shutdown caused by a small group of extremists who have intimidated the speaker of the house, john boehner, a decent man but not a strong man, who's afraid of losing his speakership if he stands up to them. that is why -- 800,000 americans have been furloughed. >> chuck todd was on earlier and says that at least in part of his -- you have the red and blue and people who don't watch the same shows or cable networks and listen to different radio stations and have these very clear differences but to your point, when you look at the polling, roger, most people do not want a government shutdown linked to the health care law,

72% and that number and others point to that people do not see this as an equal footing in who to blame. when you get to the nuts and bolts of what's happening here, republicans are not owning what is their shutdown. >> and it also shows that people are not fools. they know that the shutdown does not affect obama care. the republicans can shut down the government for a year if they want to. god forbid. but at the end of the year, obama care will still be funded. we talked about computer glitches and we talked about maybe it won't be fixed for months, it is still going to be funded and if you shut down the government, you don't get what you want which is the end of obama care. >> even some republicans admit that the party knew and these

fringe, if that's a fair description, in the party, knew that would not be something they would get in the end. what's the point here? that's the continued question, roger. >> exactly and what's the republican end game? a week from now, a month from now, six months from now, the government is still shut down. what they want to make sure no republican is re-elected in 2014, what is their end game? what is their goal? they don't have one. they just want to block a bill that has obama's name on it. >> very interesting op-ed you have there. people should check it out on politico. still ahead, more coverage on the impact of the shutdown. active duty military personnel still getting paid but in the past hour, camp pendleton announced 3600 employees will stop receiving paychecks. we'll have more on how long this could last. just for themselves. before the last grandchild. before the first grandchild. smile.

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more reaction to the government shutdown to thousands on furlough. urging republicans to quote leave their childish demands at home and pass a clean resolution to fund the united states government. congressman himes joins me now. thank you for your time what do you see as the next likely step? >> you know, at some point, the very small number, the 30 or 40 extremists in the house who have been the tail wagging the dog are going to need to have sat down by their leadership and now is the time to get back to governing and say, from world war ii veterans down on the mall, to the 700,000 people furloughed today, this is not good for the country and not good for political fortunes of the party that is behind doing this. by the way, we all hope that happens before we get to the much more serious matter of fooling around the full faith and credit of the united states government which is just a week

and a half away or so. >> congressman himes it doesn't appear any meetings are planned behind closed doors unless you can tell me otherwise here. it seems this night will go on and we will i guess all wait and see what happens in the morning. >> unfortunately where we are, the pressure will build. we'll continue to hear stories about the brave veterans who knocked over the barriers at the world war ii monument and people going without a paycheck. hopefully it will get through the thick skulls of number of people in this building that the antics and idealogy, political name calling is actually hurting real people. by the way, hurting the economy. the last time this happened in 1995, there was a meaningful slowdown in the growth of the country. this is very real stuff that we're dealing with. again, it is being driven by 30 or 40 extremists who are holding not just the country but speaker of the house and the ability to govern this country hostage at this point. you know that the people you

just referred to as extremists will say they were elected as you were and they are expressing the concerns. constituents, this despite the fact that more votes were cast from democrats than republicans. congress still believe and say and rightfully say this is what their constituents want if they are representing the people. >> absolutely. there's 30 or 40, that's less than 10% of the house of representatives. you did get elected and i respect you're representing your constituents. we're talking about the united states budget here. we agree on the number. we're not happy with the number but we agree on the number and agree on budget. but this group is say, it's not good enough we agree on budget. we want to eliminate obama care and want the affordable care act to go away. think of the precedent. what's next? what if the democratic extreme said we're not going to sign a budget unless you do away with assault weapons and we're not going to have a budget unless 20 people around here decide everybody under the age of 40

should wear a tin hat around. at some point the 30 or 40 people creating great harm on the country should be told they should represent their people, god bless them, but this is a government that relies on compromise. it always has and that's the reason we can't govern today. >> congressman, thank you for your time. let me bring in msnbc political editor domenico. people are registering today, we heard the congressman mention compromise but when something is not negotiable, what is the next step? it seems republicans aren't quite clear on their end game. >> they are not clear on the end game, none of us are. the republicans in the house are saying they feel that it's democrats who aren't compromising and they have a very reasonable position is what

one speaker -- one speaker boehner aide had said to me, very reasonable position and that it's the senate and president obama who aren't compromising and making an effort on this. i think that that is a very far divide. >> quickly here, it's not just democrats in the senate and not just the president and his party. you have other republicans who are saying this is a foolish battle. this is an unwinnable battle. let's move on. this criticism if we're going to play it fair here, is not exclusively from the democrats. >> i wouldn't say that you would say it would go to the democrats, i'm just telling you what one side is believing on this. i think it's explaining how deep the divide is on where people are coming from on where they view the other side. the white house and senate have been very clear. they say nothing that's going to come -- they are not going to be able toe do anything that has anything to do with the health

care law. that's in place today. i think it becomes very tricky for republicans over the next couple of months or weeks even depending on how long this thing goes if you have 1,000, 10,000, 100,000 people sign up for the health care law who didn't have insurance before. >> thanks, we appreciate it. we'll talk to you tomorrow, hopefully. police make an arrest after a man is chased down and beaten by a group of motorcyclists. the driver is seen on video hitting at least two of them and now police say the frightening situation has turned into an arrest. we'll have more on what happened here? 9 out of 10. 9 out of ten? that's great. ♪ nothing says, "i'm happy to see you too," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪

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one of the motorcyclist's helmet camera. kristen dahlgren has more. >> reporter: the video was captured on a motorcyclist's helmet cam and posted on youtube. police say what it shows is that group of bikers terrorizing a 33-year-old driver with his wife and 2-year-old daughter in the car. it starts with some two dozen motorcycles surrounding his black range rover. one of the bikers brakes and bumped as they go out of frame. ray kelly says other bikers lashed out at the suv. >> he stops and surrounded by about 20 to 30 bicyclists or motorcyclists i should say. they take helmets and start to dent his car and parentally his tires are slashed there with the knife. >> the biker group is known to police. they were in town for the hollywood stunts rally. a loosely organized event that took over times square last

year. and had police on high alert this time. police say they received over 200 complaints from across the city. >> i think it's bad -- >> reporter: he was one who called 911 in the moments before the biker stopped in front of him. his suv surrounded and fearing for the safety of his wife and child, he sped away running over a motorcycle to escape. one of the bikers was struck by the fleeing suv breaking both of the motorcyclist's legs. that sets off a wild high speed chase that lasts more than 50 blocks. one of the bikers pulling off the door as he steps on the gas. the pursuit continues but with tires slashed the. s vuxt is forced to slow and stop in traffic. the bikers atash again. one using a helmet to smash the driver's window and another goes toward the back seat as the tape ends. police say what is not shown is him being dragged out and beaten

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