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is to reopen the government, avoid default, and protect the historic cuts we achieved under the budget control act. this is far less than many of us had hoped for frankly but far better than what some had sought. >> the president applauds leader reid and minority leader mcconnell for working together to forge this compromise and encourages the congress to act swiftly to end this shutdown and protect the full faith and credit of the united states of america. >> and even as senators reid and mcconnell were announcing the deal, red senator ted cruz who led the charge for shutdown announced he would not use a procedural tactic to try to block the vote. >> there's nothing to gain from delaying this vote one day or two days. the outcome will be the same. every senator, every member of the house will have to make a decision where he or she stands.
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my focus is on the substance, my focus is i think where the american people's focus is, what are we doing to provide real relief to the people hurting because of obama care? unfortunately today the answer is the united states senate and the washington establishment is doing nothing to provide relief for the millions of people hurting because of obama care. >> the sources tell nbc news the bill is still being written and the senate will vote for first time this afternoon. kelly o'donnell reports a number of republican senators will vote yes to send a signal to house republicans that the deal will pass and give cover to house republican leadership so they will not need to provide all of the votes. house republicans are expected to meet in about an hour later today. the deal yields no concessions to republicans and reopens the government through mid-january and extends the government's ability to borrow through early february. it also locks in reduced spending levels as established under the sequester. joining me now, luke russert and
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nbc news white house correspondent kristen wielker. luke, time has not been set but aides will expect there will be a vote this evening. what else can you tell me. >> reporter: it's going to start in the senate and the reason it's going to start over there is because the idea is they want to move something over to the house that has a lot of republican support as kelly o'donnell mentioned in your report. this gives the house a little cover. expect the senate to vote between 5:00 and 8:00 tonight, could be earlier or later but that's the dinner time window on the east coast. the house will follow afterwards. they have a meeting at 3:00 p.m. and it's expected the leadership will tell their conference what exactly is in the senate deal. this is the way they are going to move forward. there's going to be anger from house republicans and house conservatives specifically within that conference meeting. but from where we stand right now, we don't expect them to try to amend it or hold the deal up any longer because we're closer
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to a default headline. that being said, expect a late night in the u.s. house of representatives, it could be around midnight when this thing is finally signed, sealed and delivered and on its way down the road to pennsylvania avenue where kristen is. >> before we go to kristen, again late last night there was breaking news. i saw you working throughout the night as well, basically we witnessed an implosion of the republican party as it relates to the house not being able to pull itself together. >> there's a remarkable moment, tamron. it's very similar to what happened during the fiscal cliff crisis with plan b. the house of representatives because they couldn't agree on anything, with so many different warring factions, specifically this brand of ted cruz conservatives within the house gop conference, they hurt these speaker's ability to negotiate at all. we lost all the time yesterday. this could have been yesterday, this senate bill but we lost that time because mitch mcconnell was waiting on what john boehner could bring forward. john boehner was not able to
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bring a single thing forward and hence why you're seeing it being expedited today. it's a fascinating development and a lot of gop leadership aides were la meanting the fact they don't know what this means to the future majority anymore and unable to come together for anything, what will that mean for future negotiations leverage on a whole bevvy of issues within the next year before the mid-terms. >> and one of those things, kristen, the president recently remarked again on his desire to get comprehensive immigration reform. the laundry list of things that could certainly have been taken care of or given more attention held up as a result. but what is the latest reaction from the white house. the president has said many times you cannot govern by kicking the can but that is what's happening here. >> you're right. this essentially does kick the can down the road. having said that, the white house applauding the deal. the white house saying it is consistent with the principles
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that president obama laid out, mainly reopening the government, increasing the debt limit and avoiding default. president obama hasn't weighed in specifically on this himself. he sort of strategically has taken a background role to all of this. the reason for that, tamron, is a couple of first of all, he has sort of wanted political pressure to build up on republicans, of course, look at the polls it shows majority of republicans have held -- responsible for the situation. and trying to the precedent he set back in 2011, which was to negotiate with house speaker john boehner over the debt ceiling. that strategy didn't work in 2011. everyone remembers, so we wanted -- so from that perspective, the white house did get a win essentially, provided this legislation -- jay carney
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was asked to weigh in on that. he basically punted that question saying, look, no one is aa winner in this situation. but carney urging quick action in the senate and house of representatives. the white house of course watching this closely. >> thank you. >> tamron, real quick, i just got a note from frank thorpe reporting that the house after they vote tonight will go home. this long saga where they've been here three weekends in a row. they'll vote tonight and be done. >> what will they hear when they go home? you can't hide when you go to gas up the car or whatever, people will give them an earful about what we all experienced. thank you, kristen as well. author of financial fresh start for prospering in the new
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economy, whatever the new economic is and zachary karabell and michael smerconish. the dow was up all day, many people thought we might see jitters move through the market but investors knew something we did not. >> i'm no great believe in the wisdom of markets but in this particular week if you look for one rational act or in assuming that no matter what happened that we were not going to default on the debt and that was the only thing the markets are focused on, no great love lost or much care for the government shutdown. that is i think a massive political issue in this country. it simply is not one that is an mating investors right now. the debt ceiling was. >> fitch was looking at downgrading our credit rating, we saw this happen before. what was different this time? >> first of all, when the s&p downgraded the united states in july of 2011, there was always a
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equity sell-off but rates did not go up. everything people said would happen didn't happen. no matter what a few private rated agencies say, the world really does need u.s. treasury for the financial system to function right now. and unless we actually do default systemically, it doesn't matter what the agencies say. and that is what the world does, whether or not there's faith in our credibility. >> let me bring you in. a lot of people don't have faith in government. we know consumer confidence needs to be high for this recovery to continue. president has referred to it as being slow but it is certainly there. the housing market, for example, has been doing incredibly well considering all things considered there. but this was one of the things that would have been risky if we had gone into default. >> yeah, well, obviously because if we go into default and the rates rise, they'll rise more significantly than we were anticipating. the other thing, tamron, folks are on the front line reporting
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delays in loan applications. we've got issue with fanny and freddie and va and department of agriculture not approving anything new. unless someone had to buy or sell a home right now they probably wouldn't. there's a large amount of psychology in this now. thanks to the housing bubble, we've created a nation of sort of amateur real estate investors who are not buying a home anymore, they are buying an investment with limited amount of information and trying to time the market and act like a sophisticated investor. they are reacting to all kinds of information like this. the psychology is not great. first time home buyers are down to under 30% now. we'd like to see that closer to 40%. they are beat up by low inventory and beat up by the credit scores they need to have now. and what might happen with this new development today now is we could be establishing a trend in real estate because if we're looking at new news in december and january and february on the debt ceiling and the credit
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rating, then that's all we need really to create a trend in real estate. already we're seeing in the last week or two, less showings in real estate and forward looking indicators, less competitive offers, those type of things. in january we're going to bump into those new rules under dodd frank that go into effect which makes it harder for folks to get a loan. the last thing senator cruz needs to do is read the grinch that stole christmas to us around december. >> michael, this started with this faux filibuster and we see senator cruz today, you have, for example, nancy pelosi saying the house republicans have had a chance to sew their oats to let off some steam was her wording. but senator chuck schumer put it simply, we're back where we started. this is basically back where we started. all of this showy attitude, all of this wrangling was all for naught as it rerelates to senator cruz and house rpz.
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>> i heard senator cruz say in the sound a few moments ago he's doing this because of people who are quote, unquote suffering under obama care. as you know the exchanges have themselves with difficulty just come online, the full effect won't be felt until 2014 when people can actually purchase and be enrolled in those insurance plans. he won't give up that ship. i agree with your other guests that the psychological implications are really weighing down the economy right now. my wife is a broker and she can attest to what you just said in terms of the lack of showings and the phone not ringing the way it was. my concern is that this deal only gets us into january and february and frankly we'll limp along i fear until the 2014 election. i don't think we're going to see resolution of any of this until americans can go out and vote. >> do you believe the polls, i'll go back to one of things i thought was a clear game changer, to see families of service members who were killed
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and they had to pay their own way to get the body of their loved one. a lot of conservatives used the world war ii memorial where the vets could not get in as a showy way to make it on the news, but in reality, all of this was for naught. the men who showed up to go to the memorial would have been able to go through with a clean cr would have been forward, which is essentially where we are today. >> well, let's say it this way. the very representatives who were out there stoking that crowd at the memorial were the ones who precipitated and caused the shutdown to begin with. that's what you're saying. i think there will be accountability when americans can go and vote. that's the only way we're going to get ourselves out of this. i'm worried about the hyper partisan districts but i think the 2014 election is next opportunity we have to right this course. >> thank you very much for your
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time. still ahead, we'll have much more on senate deal. the time line we're looking at of what's in it and the reaction coming in. plus, what's next for ted cruz from the faux filibuster to turning on senate republicans today in his news conference, even one major newspaper in his home state of texas that endorsed him now says cruz is painful to watch. join our conversation on twitter. you can find us at tamronhall and at newsnation. y this: y this: cc creams from covergirl + olay. covers spots and lines instantly as you correct skin tone over time. goodbye, spots, hello, beautiful. cc creams from covergirl + olay. get 'em on the spot. to severe plaque psoriasis... the frustration... covering up. so i talked with my doctor. he prescribed enbrel. enbrel is clinically proven to provide clearer skin. many people saw 75% clearance in 3 months. and enbrel helped keep skin clearer at 6 months.
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we've been able to talk with you throughout these 16 days now of this shutdown. and here we are on the horizon of a deal. your first reaction to chuck schumer saying we are where we were in the beginning. >> well, i think there is some trumg to that, that we're punting a bit into early next year, mid-january and early february on both of the cr or the budget as well as the debt ceiling. but i do think there's something to celebrate and that is the government will reopen again. it's hard to imagine the u.s., the united states government has been shut down for over two weeks. there's no celebration going on here. i think we're looking back at how difficult these two weeks have been for us. i think more importantly for the american people, it's time to get to the other issues at hand, like the growth in our economy, getting people back to work and getting comprehensive immigration reform done as well. there's a lot to do. >> to get to the other issues at
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hand, obviously very important however as you pointed out this is punting and we could essentially be back here all too soon. >> well, i think my republican colleagues, if they haven't learned anything is that shutting down the government doesn't work. and we cannot legs late by threats and cannot legislate by taking hostages. we have to sit down and talk. one of the other things about this agreement, tamron, going to conference on the budget, both the house and senate sitting down, thrashing through the issues and working them through and listening to each other, trying to find solutions, not in the reckless way we've done as my republican colleagues are doing, but listening to each other and trying to find solutions we all face. >> i want to read what the president said in a recent interview, actually yesterday, regarding speaker boehner. he says there have been repeated
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situations where we've had agreements referring to speaker boehner and he goes back and it turns out he can't control his caucus. so the challenge is can you deliver on agreements that are made? what advice, if any, do you have for speaker boehner and can he survive this and hold on to his speakership? >> i think yesterday, i was fortunate to be in a meeting with the president yesterday with the house leadership. we heard a good bit in terms of the president's overall feelings about what's taking place. but adding to that dimension, the heritage foundation coming on opposition to what the house was working on yesterday. i know a lot of outcry from the far right and tea party folks within the republican caucus and it really does question who is running the house of representatives. ultimately it looks as though we're heading towards a clean cr and clean debt ceiling bill.
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mr. boehner has come to the realization, what's in the interest of our country right now is to not fail -- not failing to pay our debts and getting the government to open is the right thing to do and i appreciate that. >> congressman crowley, we greatly appreciate you joining us with so much going on there. news of the senate deal should be welcome to thousands of people, for example in north carolina alone, learned this week they stood to lose their welfare benefits. 20,000 people in north carolina, most of them children, received monthly benefits aimed at helping them buy food and other things they need for r through federally funded program. but the state announced it will not process november applications until the government reopens. joining me now, alexandra sirata, which add vocates for l income citizens. federal workers furloughed as part of this and the part of the pain of the poor suffering here, but we apparently have a deal.
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what is your initial reaction here? >> i think as the previous guests you had said, it is a good thing that we are reopening the government and really raising the debt ceiling. we have been very concerned here in north carolina by an unnecessary move by our state policy makers to stop processing applications for those families and children who are struggling the most in our economy. and certainly having the government reopen and making sure that we are providing these chris cal services at a time when so many families are trying to make sure food is on the table and roofs are other their children's head. this is a good decision for north carolina now. >> as i pointed out, this is not exclusive to north carolina but your state had the dubious title of being the first looking at cutting people off welfare. >> that's right, it was really an unnecessary decision. state policy makers have available to them over $600 million in our rainy day fund. it certainly is raining and has
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been for the past few weeks for north carolina families as they face the uncertainty of what a federal shutdown will mean. we know that in north carolina the economic struggles facing our families are significant and loss of these dollars would have meant disaster for many of them. >> but with this sigh of relief, if can be called that, regarding in bipartisan deal, that doesn't erase all of the fears and concerns. again, nancy pelosi was on with andrea mitchell talking about the budget debates that loom ahead and what she believes is the responsibility of her party to ensure the poorest, those in most need, are not those that suffer any deals that we see made ahead. >> that's right. we know in north carolina that the impact, first round of sequestration has been devastating many children have lost the ability to attend early childhood centers. we know that seniors are losing meal services in their
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communities that allow them to stay in their homes. we know that the impact of existing federal decisions around spending cuts have been significant in our state and any future deal needs to look to new revenues and in order to ensure further cuts don't damage family senior and fragile recovery we're experiencing here in north carolina. >> alexandra sirota, we appreciate your time and reaction to what appears to be a deal moving through congress. thank you so much. still ahead, more on the senate deal to prevent default, including the pressure it puts on john boehner who would have to rely on democrats to get this bill passed in the house. >> speaker has enabled his people to have their say, to let off steam and sew their oats and as leader of that caucus as speaker of the house will allow
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11th hour agreement here? >> i'm happy. i'm not exactly surprised because we really faced going over the brink. we've said that a lot of times so sequester will ruin us, we went into sequester. we went into a government shutdown. now we're facing a total collapse of our ability to pay our bills and shattering of the world economy. and i think the republicans finally woke up to the fact that their party is in trouble enough but if they went forward with a refusal to promiz, they were going to be shattered as a part. >> and before i move on to ted cruz, i want to pick up on what you just said. if the republicans are shattered as a party, our first read team put it this way, almost a year removed from the presidential election, 2013 has been a lost year for the republican party. has it improved upon its image problem? no. has it fixed its short comings
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with women and minority voters? no. is it in a stronger place than it was in october, 2012? no way. so i mean, they are calling it the lost year for the republican party after they heavily tauted all of this research after the general election and how they wanted to improve their party. >> well, i absolutely agree with you with what you just read. our system doesn't work if you don't -- if you aren't willing to do some compromise. if you just go to washington to block everything. people do begin to wake up in the end. it wasn't enough that for month after month congress did nothing good. finally it had to do something really bad. it had to shut down government. why? to keep millions of people from
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getting health care. now that made no sense. obama care was going forward any way. it was just all this posing. ted cruz doing this faux you know, filibuster for 21 hours in order to keep the cameras on him. john boehner, not letting members of his own party vote their conscious to the american people that makes no sense because there's no sense in it. >> that was reflected not in opinion but in polling, the nbc news poll that came out as well as other polls showed that the majority of people severely saw this as an issue with the republican party. and that they didn't see it as equal blame. but i want to read something from the houston chronicle. they endorsed ted cruz and their headline, why we miss kay bailey hutchison and write, roger, when we endorse ted cruz in last november's general election, we
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did so with many reservations and at least one specific recommendation, that he follow hutch inson's example in conduct as a senator. he has not done so. that's from the editorial board at houston chronicle. essentially buyer's remove there. >> absolutely right. barbara boxer said on the senate floor yesterday, what did the american people do to deserve this? well, we elected some bad lawmakers, that's what we did to deserve this. and the question is, on november 4th, i believe, 2014, are we going to do it again? we have kicked the can down the road but we're going to see if that can stops getting kicked in november of next year. people have to wake up and reamize that a vote counts. if you vote for the same old thing you're going to get the
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same old thing. if you want change, you're going to have to vote for change. >> roger simon, thank you so much. look forward to reading what you put up online and reaction to this time around. greatly appreciate it. >> thank you, tamron. we'll talk with bob casey on the finance committee about the deal. here's how john mccain described the past 16 days. >> it's obvious we're seeing the end of this agonizing odyssey. >> plus, an alleged rape victim chooses to go public after her family says they were forced to move after the because the community rallied against them for pursuing charges. one is a member of a high school football team and the governor is asking for a grand jury to investigate. ♪
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government and fund it through mid january and also raise the debt limit until february 7th. the senate is expected to vote on the bill first sometime between 5:00 and 8:00, followed by a final vote in the house. here's was senator cruz said earlier about deciding not to block the vote. >> we saw the house of representatives take a courageous stand listening to the american people, that everyone in official washington just weeks earlier said would never happen. that was a remarkable victory, to see the house engage in a profile in courage. >> joining me live now, bob casey of pennsylvania, a member of the senate finance committee and house senate joint economic committee. before we launch into a deal here, what's your reaction to senator cruz saying that this was a profile in courage for members of the house? >> i think we see it from a different perspective, tamron.
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what we've had for more than two weeks is a government shutdown and the mere threat of default, both of which have badly damaged the economy. so we don't want to repeat this chapter ever again. people can talk about what they perceive is some kind of act of courage, i don't see it that way. i think it's -- it was an act or series of actions that were taken which led to a shut down. it was really what happened in a sense was the tea party took over the republican party and that lead to a shut down by the tea party. and we were able to avert the third element of that which would have been a tea party default. so we're happy that we're at this point now. we can put all of that ak moanny behind us and hopefully come together and not just avoid default but take advantage of the time now that we have to get a good budget agreement for the rest of the fiscal year and maybe even long term changes to help the economy. the main thing, we got to get
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back to the work the american pent sent us here to today, focus on the middle class and jobs. >> you refer to this acrimony, and you can understand why people are skeptical of a threat of a deal. mitch mcconnell expressed the desire to continue to repeal the health care law and part of the remarks by senator cruz admitting basically defeat. he weaved in this was a victory of sorts and still has his sights set on the health care law. why should people at home believe we won't be back at this point even with these extensions? >> you make a good point. what can happen now, we can have a debate about a lot of issues, debate the budget, long-term spending issues and whole range of issues that relate to the economy and jobs and debate health care. what we shouldn't do and what i think republicans now will
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probably try to avoid in the future is not having a debate on health care that leads to shutting down the government or threatening the full faith and credit of the united states. if you're a republican and you believe the health care bill should be changed in some substantial way, what you have to do is come forward and say, how are you going to cover, ensure that 17 million children don't have a bar to coverage in treatment because of a preexisting condition, how are you going to make sure small businesses can get help with health care? if you have answers we can have a debate. but the idea you can just say you don't like the bill and shut the government down and accept the american people to accept that, they are badly mistaken. >> thank you for your time. i greatly appreciate it. joining us now, senior plid editor mark murray. -- okay, listen, senator casey expressing optimism, we heard optimism from the white house
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yesterday, even with senator mitch mcconnell praising this deal from all sides. the wall street journal's op-ed refers to something that we see over and over, this is the quality of thinking or lack thereof that affected many gop conservatives from the beginning of the showdown. they pick a goal they could not achieve and then they pick a means that they could not sustain politically by pursuing it. but reading that, mark, there's a question, is there a real motivation for the most conservative in the republican party to not just pick this battle a little later? >> i'm sure they are going to want to have the battle later to use it in fund raising. this remains a very big goal for republicans. tamron, one think worth noting about the time line in the deal, you end up having the government reopens come january 15th. the next debt ceiling date is extended to february 7th.
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what happens before then? well, the entire president's health care law gets under way january 21st. for republicans who want to be able to drag this out and fight longer, the clock is ticking. once you get to the january 1st, everyone ends up having benefits and exchanges are working and we'll continue to see if there are problems on the health care website and how many people enroll. once the thing is already established, it is very hard to dismantle it whole sale. there might be tinkering here or there. and of course, this might be an issue come the 2016 presidential election, but the longer this goes on, the harder it is for republicans to roll back. >> before we move to new jersey, i want to bring up something nancy pelosi said with andrea mitchell regarding the budget battle that lie ahead and what the president and others refer to as hostage taking, particularly when it comes to programs that could be hit very hard and the continued battle
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over entitlements. >> what i took away from that interview, andrea mitchell had with house leader nancy pelosi, they are making same demands they have, if we're going to have tifrnkering to entitlement programs they have to put increased revenue on the table and that is something house republicans have been unwilling to do. there have been some discussions with senate republicans, however, president obama has been having dinners with republicans there does appear to be a path forward on maybe some sort of senate compromise. but the democrats are making their demands very clear. any kind of changes to entitlement programs have to come with increased revenues and we'll see request house republicans budge. >> the new jersey race, the polling out shows a 10% -- just 10 percentage points between
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cory booker and steve lonergan. i'm curious with steve lonergan teaming up with sarah palin over the weekend and being seen as i guess a tea party candidate, how this might be impacted with what we've watched in washington? >> one poll showed cory booker had ten points, another one had him by 12 and 22. he's solidly in the lead. everyone is expecting he'll end up winning. this is one of your very odd wednesday elections. so this is very unusual. three weeks before the governor's race that happens in new jersey. but cory booker is the favorite and this means that jeff key ace ya temporarily filling this role, will see his brief senate tenure come to an end. >> we'll be right back. everybody knows that. well, did you know that when a tree falls in the forest and no one's around, it does make a sound? ohhh...ohhh...oh boy!
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broiled one small town and triggered national outrage. in january of 2012, daisy kol vin, just 14 at the time, she and another friend had been drinking when they snuck out of her house in the north missouri town and went to a classmate's team. matthew barnett was a member of football team and from a prominent family. she said she and her friend were sexually assaulted with one of barnett's friends filming the encounter with his phone. two weeks later the most serious charges against the boys were dropped. >> they all in the police report admitted she was unconscious and had to carry her out of the house. >> now, more than a year later the case has gained national attention after the kansas city star published a lengthy investigation of the case with alarming new details, including how in month after the allegation they were targeted by cyber bullies.
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things got so bad for the family they decided to move to another town. before they could sell their home, it was mysteriously caught fire. we should note under nbc policy we normally would not identify the victim in a rape case, since daisy and her mother have chosen to come forward we are able to use their names. and dugan ar net wrote this piece. thank you for your time. incredible reporting here but let's start with where things stand as far as the justice system and call for grand why are to be convened. >> i think at this point, yeah, i think at this point you know, some politicians came forward yesterday urging for further investigation and i think at this point -- i guess the ball is kind in the attorney general's court. he's come out and said before that he's not -- they don't have the authority to come and reinvestigate it. some people have questioned
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that. it's kind of at a stand still. it's unclear how it's going to play out. >> dugan, what do we know the reasoning behind the more serious charges against the boys being dropped? what do the prosecutors say? >> well, prosecutors said it's a combination of lack of evidence and you know, most recently in a statement yesterday that cooperation from the victims was less than stellar i guess. and that's kind of been his contention. i've talked to him on and off for the past couple of months, at least. and you know, that's kind of been his contention, that the victims didn't want to testify or come forward. they've vehemently denied that. yeah. >> part of the statement that we have from the attorney prosecuting attorney robert rice, he says referring to the article in your paper, an article published in the star
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did not include all the facts as to what transpired in the 2012 criminal case. there was insufficient evidence to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt. it's reported in your article that both the girl and her mother say that is not the case, they were more than willing to cooperate. >> yeah, that's what they've said, all along both mothers have been contacted with both mothers. they haven't -- from what they've told me, they never declined to cooperate or give a deposition or to give testimony at all. before the two felony counts were dropped against the boys. and those were one a sexual assault charge and one sexual exploitation for the alleged videotaping. >> time line wise, there is no set time for a decision to be made regarding a grand jury,
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right? >> yeah, no, not as far as i know. it's up in the air as of this morning or as of this afternoon, the attorney general's office has been mum as far as releasing a statement, any kind of reaction to what the house speaker and lieutenant governor said yesterday. so as of now, there's no time line. >> dugan, thank you so much. again, you report incredible, what's happening to this young girl and family, what they say happened to them is unbelievable. we'll continue to follow developments earn see what happens next for them in this case. still ahead, our "news nation" gut check, senator ted cruz and his effect on the republican brand. we'll be back after a quick break. her busy saturday begins with back pain, when... hey pam, you should take advil. why? you can take four advil for all day relief. so i should give up my two aleve for more pills with advil? you're joking right? for my back pain, i want my aleve.
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time for the "news nation" gut check, it is the breaking news of the day. senate leaders announced a deal to avoid default and reopen the government. senator cruz saying he will not delay a vote but nor the senator, the shutdown has been about the quest to delay or defund the health care law. the houston chronicle, which endorsed senator cruz last year is expressing remorse over that endorsement. what does your get tell you? has senator ted cruz permanently damaged the republican brand or in the immediate future? take a look at what the "news nation" is saying about yesterday's gut check. we told you about the supreme court taking up michigan affirmative action ban, should states be allowed to ban affirmative action programs. overwhelmingly, 88% said no. 12% said yes. that does it for this edition of "news nation." i'm tamron hall. "the cycle" is up next.
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