doesn't take too much attention. then make yourself a nice lemon twist. use a potato peeler or paring knife. cult it thin. like that. take the oil side. express it down like that over the drink. this if you only had to have one cocktail the rest of your life this is the one you would have. happy shut down week, everybody. happy debt ceiling. we made it. today the president is outlining his new agenda. >> and if you thought it was over, think again. how the shutdown will affect this year's holiday season. in office politics, my conversation with chris matthews and what he says drives the right crazy. today it could sell for close to a million dollars. what could be the largest selling artifact from the "titanic". good morning, everyone. welcome to we"weekends with ale wit witt". >> the way business is done in

washington has to change. now that these clouds of crisis and uncertainty have lifted. we need to focus on what the majority of americans sent us here to do, grow the economy, create good jobs, strengthen the middleclass, lay the foundation for broad based prosperity and get our fiscal house in order for the long haul. >> the president is highlighting three key areas, immigration reform, farm bill, and the budget. the government contract for the company that built the site has blown to three times its original cost, $292 million. the house schedule issed a meeting next week. mitch mcconnell is facing new opposition. the conservative group senate were conservatives fund is endorsing his primary opponent in kentucky making this the highest profile crusade against moderate and established

republicans. >> a federal judge rejected an effort to restore 38,000 names to virginia's voter rules. they say the names were possibly purged by mistake. the evidence did not convince him anyone was disenfranchised. ken cuccinelli trailing democrat terry mcauliffe in the state's gubernatorial race. and the president opens post polls shutdown term on immigration reform and a new farm bill. good saturday morning to you. what is the president planning to take on first and how does he plan to do it? >> alex, i think you will see a strong push forri ismmigration reform. he mapped this out as a key priority during his second term. it almost sort of got through

both chambers. the big bill through the senate and piecemeal through the house. there was a big discussion about this several months ago. of course that got sidetracked. some of the foreign policy issues and the latest budget battle. i think you will see president obama revive efforts to get an immigration reform bill passed. he's going to build momentum among the key groups who are really pushing for this. remember, some of them are key republican allies, alex, business leaders, faith groups. here's a little bit more on what president obama had to say in his weekly address. >> we won't suddenly agree on everything now that the cloud of crisis has passed. but we shouldn't hold back on places where we do agree because we don't think it's good politics or because our extremes don't like compromise. i'll look for willing partners to get important work done. now, remember president obama emerges from this latest budget battle a little more

emboldened, a little bit more leveraged. the republican party saw their poll numbers dropped. so getting immigration reform bill passed is something that could benefit them. it doesn't mean it is going to happen. this is incredibly divisive. he will take on a farm bill by speaking with folks on both sides of pennsylvania avenue. there is bipartisan support for making that happen. but there are key sticking points republicans want to cut back on food stamps as part of a farm bill. democrats say that's a nonstarter. in a couple of months we get to revisit the budget battles all over again. alex. >> wow. did you have to throw in that last line. >> sorry. >> i'm curious about the reaction from the white house. >> alex, i've been having conversations here behind the scenes of the white house. i can tell you they acknowledge this rollout has not gone as they had hoped it would.

they are working around the clock to work out the glitches how many people have actually gotten health care? the administration will give us those numbers next month. a lot of eyes once they do come out. >> thank you so much. kristen welker as always. wanda summers and aaron blake. good morning, guys. good to see you both. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> aaron, they are not going to want to give democrats another victory or they will show they can get things done. any bet on what option they are going to follow? do you think they will work with the president on these three major items kristin was talking about? >> i would lead towards the former. i think the real question is not whether they can get all three things done over the next two and a half months here but whether they can get one or two big things done. immigration reform is still a very difficult thing to do. i think you're more likely to see something on a much smaller

scale along the lines of the kids act which is kind of like the so-called dream act. this is something republicans are supporting in the house. i don't know if they will get a huge immigration bill. the budget in particular is a very difficult thing to get done. they haven't been able to pass a big budget in a long time. it was hard enough to get a continuing resolution, which is what all the debate was about in recent weeks. i think the president set an ambitious goal for congress to get these things done. we will see what happens. but i don't think we have seen a shifting of the guard. republicans are put in a situation where they had to capitulate a little bit. they don't necessarily have to do that immediately. >> so wanda, let's take say look at immigration reform specifically. here's what luis gutierrez told msnbc. >> where and when do you see an opening for immigration reform to be taken up here?

>> i still think before christmas of this year. >> really? >> christmas, you think? is that wishful thinking? >> as someone on capitol hill every day, i would say that's perhaps a little bit optimistic given the large portfolio republicans are pushing forward. i talk to republicans on the hill who want to see a fix or skefteration. immigration back burned over the budget debates. i would push back on that a little bit. >> aaron, what about texas senator ted cruise? he is speaking at a couple events today in texas. here's what harry reid is saying about cruise. >> in an effort to help him run for president, he has done some stuff that's really damage to our country. and who has he hurt? he's been attempting to raise money. who has he hurt? he has hurt average americans. >> aaron, you wrote about this in your latest article. ted were cruise, will he be the

big stumbling block? is this all about his personal agenda? >> yeah. i don't know that his effort in this regard is aimed at winning the white house. if it is, i don't know who is advising him. because he's not really helping himself along the broader american electorate. there was a poll this week that showed tea party supporters, three-quarters of them view ted cruise favorably. everyone else in the republican party, people who don't support the tea party, it is lower than his unfavorable rating. he is even more unpopular than popular among nontea party republicans. he is not building a broad base of support in the way we are seeing marco rubio and rand paul try to do. i don't understandly think he sees himself as a problem as much as a leader of a movement. that's a much more natural position for him to be in.

quite frankly, one i think he would probably succeed more in. >> under this week's deal, we have the government that remains funded until january 15th. debt ceiling through february 7th. senator cruise is not ruling out another government shutdown to make his point and to drive obama care. is there a democratic strategy to keeping temperatures from heating up too much. >> i think the real question is about the republican tragedy. one republican member told me i can't believe we shut down the government for two weeks and we got so little left. senator cruise, willing to risk a second shutdown push this forward, their thought strategy as aaron put it. i don't think other members of the party will allow this to happen. they are not willing to risk this. it was a no-win situation for them. >> they have heard all the

rhetoric here. aaron, i want to look at new jersey rulings, same-sex marriages can begin in the state monday. what is the reaction from the administration now to this latest ruling? are they going to go along? >> well, yeah. this is something they have to comply with essentially. what basically happened is this lower court judge decide issed gay marriages were set for monday. chris christie is still appealing the lower court's ruling. that case is not going to be decided until january. so in the meantime, they were trying to hold off on gay marriages being performed while the case is still spending. 7-0. they basically said that the christie administration has not put forward a convincing case to this point. more than anything it suggests that in january the supreme court is likely to uphold this ruling and effectively legalize

gay marriage in new jersey. a lot of things have to play out. but i think that's a very significant ruling. >> yeah. >> for the christie administration has pushed this for the ballot rather than the courts. that's their particular issues. >> good to see you both. happy saturday to you. thanks, guys. >> thank you. it certainly felt like late summer in the mideast. snow fell in western kentucky. parts of cheyenne, wyoming saw five inches. what should we expect this weekend? dylan dreyer is here with the forecast. good morning, dylan. >> good morning; alex. we have had snow across the rockies. colder air is settling in. start issiing off in the 30s an. we are going to see high temperatures only at 46 degrees in minneapolis. so below average. chicago, too with a high of 54.

67 in new york city. 90s mainly isolated to the desert southwest and down across florida. but we are looking also at the chance of a lot of rain. we have our heaviest rain this morning falling across the gulf coast states, especially down through new orleans. that will weaken as it moves eastward. it will move into the florida panhandle. heavy, steady were rain from illinois over to indiana. that will be an issue through the morning and eastward this afternoon. so nationwide, today we are looking at a pretty nice day in the northeast. a couple spotty showers in the coast of the carolinas. 54 in chicago with some of the heavier rain this morning. 46 degrees in minneapolis. tomorrow, the cooler air starts to settle into the northeast. temperatures will drop into the mid-60s. really feeling like fall. it looks like the cooler air will stick around. temperatures to top out around 71 in kansas city.

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they are offering $10,000 for each fugitive or information leading to their rearrest. how these two managed to break free. so let's share the story. it's pretty incredible. >> it is pretty incredible when you hear about the detail that these two allegedly went into get out of prison early. now, both were serving life sentences, each for murder. their early release centered around forged documents. they actually came back and said, hey, we have reduced their sentences and they have served enough time. it's time to free them. it relied on forged senators of several key players, including that of judge perry. he was the judge that presided over the casey anthony case.

he said the documents were pretty well done for someone without -- who didn't have that legal eye to look at them. >> okay. >> it's a break out without having to break out. >> so you heard judge perry right there. he said that it is possible that these guys had some help from somebody on the inside, an attorney on the inside. they cited case law. they included a lot of small details. once again, they were red flags to him. but someone without a lot of legal experience wouldn't pick up. >> a question i have here. i'm reading through the story. they went back to the jail three days later because they had to be finger printed and check in. that really happened? and they were allowed to go again? >> these guys were very committed to the ruse.

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headlines, waiting to exhale, holiday trimming and oh, man. regina lewis, sounds like fun things. let's start with the jobs numbers. i don't know if that's so fun since the government is shutdown delayed them all. >> which means they can't couple pile the statistics or get people to weigh in on the survey. one of the things most fascinating in the back story is does this become the new norm? because it's been revealed only 70% of people routinely reply, which is why we are constantly talking about revised numbers. should you do it quarterly? how accurate are the numbers? if only 70% of people are replying because it is always tbd. >> what is not going to make merchants too happy or merry this holiday season. >> we're not feeling super powerish. so when you have words like shutdown, stalled economy, it

doesn't make you ready to go full force into the holiday shopping season. that's really significant. it is expected to be flat, maybe even down. that is super significant. plus, you have jc penney. the mall will be hardest hit. so is 60% going to be the new 10% discount? deep discounting. a lot less self gifting. the phenomenon is people always buy presents. santa is going to show. you're going to have stuff under the tree. you will give things to your loved ones. but when you're there, you buy something for yourself. that is expected to go away. >> the headline, oh, man. a change at the grocery store these days. what's that about? >> it's called manfluence. steel cut oats, hard cider.

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a dream. welcome back to "weekends with alex witt". it is 29 minutes past the hour. time for your fast 5 headlines. a new twist in the florida case for two teenage kids arrested for cyber bullying. the stepmother of one of the teens is now under arrest for an unrelated charge of child abuse and for beating a boy. that's been caught on video. survey la video may be key evidence of a shooting of a man. he was reported by his mother to have a knife. the video shows officers talking to him before he was shot and wounded. one officer is on leave while the department investigates. is and felony vandalism against three boy scout leaders for toppling a 170-year-old rock

formation. they posted it on youtube. the winless grambling state football team is forfeiting today against jackson state bus players refused to travel to have the game. they are disgruntled about the firing of their long-time head coach and long trips. police hope this surveillance will help them find the man who was trying to get a woman with's purse away from a boy. the boy gave chase. 19 days in. the obama marketplace is still mired with defects. it has left millions struggling to sign up. the spanish language website will not roll out as expected.

gregory meeks, members of foreign affairs committee. and i say welcome to you. so glad to have you. glad everything is settled. >> here we go. robert gibbs said on air, somebody should be fired over these problems with this whole rollout. do you agree with that? if so, who should it be? >> i know the president is very upset about it. it happened to be at a meeting. the president was there. he cares. he really does. we have to get to the bottom of this. we know so many americans need health care. we know this will bring down the cost. we have to fix these technical problems. they've got to be fixed. >> is there word about trying to recall? are they frustrated. >> i have talked to my colleagues. that's the frustration on my part. these individuals want to join the affordable care act. they need it. they are looking for it. everything they see about it

they like about it. especially the cost, where you say a, b, c. this is something i want. i want to sign up for. but they can't just get through. so we have to fix these technical problems. >> when you think about the irony, the timing of this problem, considering what we went through for the first 16 days of the month. basically, the obama care issue was the cause of the government shutdown, if you look at folks like ted cruise and those. that's what they were opposing. then it's not even running properly. there's irony in that. >> listen, the program starts january 1st. people have to sign up between now and then. before we actually see what take place there's time there. there's other individuals that have already benefited from the program. if you had a kid under 26 and not employed, they can stay on your health care program. pre-existing disease. all of those things are in existence now. so people are benefiting, some are benefiting from it already.

we have to make sure that the technical gaffes are cleared up. >> yeah. >> so the hundreds of thousands, the millions of individuals who don't have insurance now, they can get it. that's important. >> it absolutely is important. with regard to some of your counterpar counterparts, they are expected to hold hearings. anything informative coming from that? >> i don't know. here's the key. if we would work on this collectively, be reasonable about what we're doing, not just stop americans from getting the health care they need, but trying to fix whatever the problem is, this is a computer problem. so they can find there's someone that is not doing what they should be doing as far as working on the computer to get the glitches out, to fix it. it's more than a glitch apparently. if that's the spirit of the hearing, maybe we can do something like that. but if the spirit is just to say we shouldn't have affordable care act, we're not going to go anywhere. the basics is still good if you talk to states like my state, new york, where they show

insurance prices going down 50%. and you can then see the number of individuals who have tried to get on the site. the great need of people to have health care. if we can focus we're going to provide health care to those who don't have it, we can do a lot. unfortunately what you see from my colleagues on the republican side, they don't come up with any alternatives. they don't come up with how we can fix it so make sure millions of americans can receive health care. we have been willing to work. the president said he would be willing to work with republicans, democrats, anybody else. but the idea is to get these people this health care. >> can we look ahead to january, february, january 15th when the government funding will run out. february 7th, is when we would have to increase the debt ceiling again. are we going to have another crisis like we did? piecemealing quarter to quarter, half year to half year, is that any way to govern? >> it is no way to govern.

i hope if the republicans can, i know democrats are ready to come with some reasonable solutions with reference to a bigger deal. we know we can't get everything our way. we're not going to get everything we want. there are things that they want. we have to have some way we can work that out. i'm willing to work with individuals who have new ideas. i understand that i've got to make some compromise so we can move this country forward. i hope my counterparts on the other side. they sneed to stand up and say to the speaker. the only thing that's going to happen is they have to say they don't not want the haslett rule. as we have said all along, if you put the bill on the floor it will pass. the majority of members of congress would vote for it. that meant the majority of

americans are where we are. so that's the key. forget the rule and the moderate republicans, make sure they are reasonable and democrats will be reasonable and we can get past this. >> always reasonable for us. thank you very much, congressman meeks. because of the new stop gap budget this week, tours of the white house will resume but not until november 5th and only for three days a week. they will continue through january 15th. tours were canceled in march because of sequestration cuts. in this week's office politics my colleague chris matthews, his new book reflects a different time in american politics, one which may have been far from perfect but seems ideal by today's standards. i asked, what is it missing from the political scene these days? >> the older i get the more i believe in respect. respect for the voter. you know, we used to have honeymoons. you gave some time for their programs to come up.

you gave a vote. we don't do that anymore. these guys go out hammer and claw the first second they're elected. and i sensed that this week. the lack of respect for the president saying as a price for keeping the government open, a price for paying our debt you have to get rid of your baby, the thing you built. that's an insult. like one of those movies where they slap you with a glove. it was a direct attack on him as a historic figure. you're going to lose the one thing you have done on our deal. it's a lack of respect for the voter, for the other office. it's the way they talk about each other. it's all pretty rough. there's an indictment that comes from people like ted cruise. he wants to make his mark early. i get all that. it's the tactic of insult that's really going to cause trouble for our country. this thing has been very expensive.

it has hurt us in the world pharblg markets. a price has already been paid. >> so a quarter from now when government funding runs out, the debt ceiling needs to be addressed again, this constant government my crisis. >> there's a constant campaign being waged mainly by the right. although the left has some stubbornness too. i heard it the other night. it was hannity saying he can't wait for the 90 days and we will be at it again. a lot will go back to their districts and give speeches to how leadership sold them out. knife in the back theory. that whole thing. at the town meeting inevitably there will be a guy saying you sold us out. or they sold us out. the hottest person in the room will dominate the thinking in the room. every time you call a vote, do you want to hurt obama or not?

of course i do. every time you set up that question, whether it's on the floor of the house in washington or a town meeting, it's going to be anti obama in that crowd. if you try to defend him or defend good manners, oh, you're defending him. you're a traitor. every time there's a question, yay or nay, they always want to vote nay on the right. that's what's changed. >> why do you think attention is paid to that one loud voice? >> the rest of the crowd goes with that voice. you've watched these tapes, there's usually somebody with a cell phone. somebody has the phone and they're watching this. how come you -- and inevitably the whole crowd starts roaring. john mccain has the history behind him. >> he was pretty clear of his talks. >> he stood up to them. >> and peter king. tougher for john mccain in arizona.

but you have to physically be a profile now. stand up in the room against the angry voices. this country on the right is very angry. part of it is obama being where he's from, his background, his liberalism, his aloofness that drives the right crazy. more of our conversation at 12:00 moon. the political winners and losers from the october debacle on capitol hill. if it's better to be loved or feared as a politician. a change facebook has made just might worry parents of stearns. but should they really be concerned. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some financial folks who will talk to them about preparing early for retirement and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rocket science.

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>> hi, alex. good morning. yeah. this violin survived in a leather suitcase strapped to the body of the "titanic"'s bandmaster. it was rescued from the water a few days later. it is set to be the biggest selling item from the "titanic". there's been an interest from bidders right around the world. from the most famous ship of all time, its most iconic piece of memorabilia. the violin from the bandmaster as it sank into the atlantic a century ago. a moment of bravery captured in the movie. as passengers ran for their lives, the band tried to calm them with music. days later, the suitcase bearing his initials was found floating in the water along with the violin, which is set to sell for half a million dollars. of all the artifacts, why do you think this is the biggest sellers? >> he is one of the more famous

individuals surrounding the "titanic" disaster. >> it really is incredible to be holding something from the "titanic". there's hardly any visible damage. just a few cracks. the fact it's in such good condition makes people doubt it is authentic. >> it has undergone years of tests, even getting scanned in a hospital. >> absolutely we believe it is the violin that was on board "titanic". one important detail remains intact. for wallace on the occasion of our engagement from maria. it was a gift from the fiancee he would never return to. the movie a night to remember, shows him playing his final hymn as the "titanic" slipped beneath the icy waters. >> it was returned to the

fiancee and she treasured it for the rest of her life. that is your saturday morning love story. >> it is romantic, heartbreakingly so. thank you so much, duncan. facebook is relaxing its rules for teenagers immediately even over concerns of cyber bullying and sexual predators. 13 to 17-year-olds were only able to socialize with established people on the site. now they can socialize with anyone and everyone. they can turn on the follow feature which allows anyone to see their public posts in the news feed. the co-founder of generation text. jill, welcome to you. facebook says teens, they want to be heard. is that a good reason to relax the privacy rules? >> it depends who you are. if you're a company that wants to make a lot of money, no, that's not a great reason. you know, if you're a teen, you want to be heard and you want

people to follow you and know what you're doing. so it depends who you are talking to. >> if these kids decide to loosen up the rules are they at all warned? do they get reminders that say anyone can see this? >> from what i understand, there's going to be pop-up messages that will ask them if they want to do something. the kind of thing is you're doing something really quickly. you want to get your message out fast. you just click, click, click. it's like the terms and conditions. everybody automatically clicks. >> kids don't think big picture, right? >> no. their brains aren't developed enough think what cause and effect and they are very impulsive. >> we have warned our kid. you get high school counselors, school counselors, saying look, be careful what you put on facebook. you don't think that message is

getting through enough? >> they hear it but it doesn't -- because they don't think long term, you look at you and i in college. would we have done all those things we had done? that has no bearing on what we are as adults today. and we just -- we did what we wanted. we did what we thought was important at that time. >> like a snapshot. you're right. with regard to the reason for this, is it all because twitter seems to be taking off in a bigger and bigger and bigger way all the time? if facebook doing this for financial reasons? >> it sounds like their competitors are a little bit more successful because they have lacksed their rules and they don't make you do certain things. from what i read, that's why they are doing it. again, they are making their decisions based on their mission statement for their company. a lot of times when company owners are parents, they might look at the world through a different set of glasses. >> the fact that this is applicable to 13 to

17-year-olds, means the majority of these kids will still be living at home. >> yes. >> can parents do anything here? any advice for parents? >> i think people say you should monitor your kids's facebook. >> right. >> it's impossible. you would need 20 hours a day to go through every post and picture that you do. the important thing is you talk about it. you talk about things that you see happening on the news. it's really important for schools to embrace this, for the administration to say we have the power to present something to the entire school system. that's what i do. i have a curriculum that works inside the school, with its classroom teacher teaching it that uses a way to teach them by using questions and not sitting there and telling them what to do. >> absolutely. >> when you are lecturing, kids turn you off. >> exactly. get the questions out there and the answers.

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you add the private sector losses. at least one estimate puts the total cost at $24 billion. joining me now is senior fellow is former chief economist for vice president biden. i want your damage assessment. how does it go? >> well, i think the numbers that you just cited are ones that have been widely known as the cost of the shutdown.

the gdp was expected to grow 2.5% this quarter. maybe a slight tick above okay. forecasters are taking it down to 2%. that's a real cost. it comes in three flavors. there's government spending

they drive these trucks down, selling food to folks. they were kind of shut down for a couple of weeks. it depends how closely you are linked to the government sector. >> interestingly, i will have a small business owner whose business is outside a national park that got completelilock wiped out. i'm curious to hear what he has to say. he's on later today. with regard to the country's reputation, how much has this tarnished us in our global standing? >> well, i'm afraid to sa that it has tarnished us. i don't know if anyone knows how much. but a lot of that depends on the future. we, i mentioned borrowing costs as a part of the problem. what i was saying there was that what we have to pay our creditors the people who lend us money when they buy our treasury bills actually went up a significant amount for short-term treasury bills. >> that led to costs that were

probably over $100 million more than we would have had to pay otherwise. that's not a huge cost in an economy like our, but it is very significant in the context of your question. it suggests that the safest most reliable debtor in the world, the u.s. government was as least for a minute there looked at suspiciously. that's not the shutdown. that's the threat of default. so a lot depends on where we were a few months from now. if these politicians, i heard you talk about this a few months ago. i share your pain. if these politicians. to take us through that again, i really think they'll be doing lasting damage. >> lasting damage. i think they have to look inward, lasting damage to stay on the hill, which is the political point on the hill, lasting damage without a doubt. jerry bernstein as always i appreciate your insights. >> thank you. >> that's a wrap of this hour with "weekends with alex witt." join me at 2:00 p.m. eastern today. straight ahead, though, more

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