healthcare.gov's failures don't detract from the overwhelming success of the new deal and great society programs. still, the left's willingness to admit failures and call for fixes to those fales failures has provided ample opportunities for conservative to gleefully stomp all over a law they ultimately want to repeal. >> no matter how hard team obama tries to spin and spin and get their surrogates to spin more and following the spinning bouncing ball, we're going to continue to expose what the administration wants to express. >> you call the number, you can get 150 languages. maybe they shouldn't have offered obama care in swahili. >> the question is how to strike the right balance between admitting there's a problem while put the failures in perspective. >> no one would argue with the assertion there was an underestimate of the kind of volume we were going to see. if i could, remember, even with

these glitches, people are signing up. they are registering. we're interested in providing this very valuable commodity to americans who so clearly want to buy affordable health insurance. >> to be clear many state-run exchanges are doing fine. so far california has processed 95,000 applications. in new york over 150,000 people have signed up. washington state enrolled 35,000 americans and expansion of med kate cade, which will provide health care to millions of poor and uninsured americans continues, even in red states like kentucky and swing states like ohio. a reminder for progress i was who may be in a panic watching the glitchy, which is to say dreadful rollout. obama care's problems don't discredit liberalism. believe it or not, the existence of great websites is sort of incidental to the operation of a social interest system. joining me howard fineman,

anchor of bbc world news america katty kay and "washington post" columnist jonathan capehart and nbc news analyst former pennsylvania governor and governor of "now," ed rendell. i go to you first. what's the best play for the white house. they should own this. another saying daily briefings on the state of this. should they wrap their arms around the quote, unquote, glitches? >> yeah, i think the president did that when he said it's unacceptable. everyone needs to take a deep breath. apple screwed up the rollout of its new program. take a deep breath, social security, medicare, they all had glitches at the start. the good news for anybody panicking, it's a year to congressional elections. this will get straightened out and we'll get back to the central issue and that is 31 million americans who didn't have health care will be able to sign up for health care.

it will end national disgrace of the u.s. being the only developed nation that didn't in sure its citizens with health. >> katty. january 1st coverage goes into effect. february 15th penalties go into effect. the he said of the open enrollment period is march 31st. given me don't know the scope of these technical problems, it's possible it will take weeks, maybe months, who knows, to fix this. it would seem prudent for the white house to leave open the door to delaying the penalties. the question is how do you negotiate that politically? >> effectively they are leaving open that door. jay carney didn't spell out whether glitches people are encountering signing up count for one of those other factors, those mysterious other factors that might exempt you from some kind of a fine if you haven't signed up in time. i don't think the politics of this are as important as the

practicality of this. they have another month. we talk about the elections next year. actually they really only have another month to six weeks to try and get this fixed in such a way that enough people can sign up to make the whole system viable. >> so howard, there's varying levels of levels here on the left. i would say the very fact that progress i was can have a conversation about this is a testament to, as brian says, health.gov provided an opportunity to prove it's better epistamological than the right. what ultimately matters is making sure the website becomes reliable for consumers. >> this is probably the only show on cable show on television that uses that word. >> i'm just reading it. >> i think i know what it means,

the objective reality of this. >> very good. >> thank you very much, governor. in some states it is slowly but surely taking hold. you mentioned some of them. kentucky is another one. a red state with a democratic governor and democratic lieutenant governor, both of whom happen to be good administrators and who are dedicated to getting it right. yes, it's true on one level that it's only a website. but the website is the front door to government today. what astonishes me and so ironic that an organization, namely the obama white house, that got to where it was because of its incredible skill at social media and the web totally blew the web and socialial media aspects of the biggest program of the obama era. it's mind boggling. jim mess inna running the campaign in chicago never would have let this happen in the campaign, why is it happening in the government? that's a serious, serious

question. >> shouldn't be working for david cameron. >> the government had unlimited amounts of money to get experts to make sure it's done right in the way the obama camp was. >> we are talking about 26, i believe it is, states that ott opted out of running their own exchanges. the federal government did not think they were going to have to step in. the funding set up for this stuff was in large part stripped. these are the chickens, governor, coming home to roost. i'm no tech experts but i've paid one, talking about a website that that ha to interface with social security, irs, insurers themselves. this is a very, very complicated thing. politically the white house did not feel it had its back against the wall for october 1st rollout and felt like they needed to go forward but it was obviously ready. >> no question about it. the big issue is why didn't they

get those experts? why didn't they get people who do this for a living to come in and help out. maybe they did. i don't know if they did. >> probably could have gotten jeff bassoss as a volunteer. >> why didn't they get people at that level. this is so important and they knew it was important. howard, did you call? >> i called the 800. >> did you? >> no but call online. >> did you call? >> trying to keep the line up. >> i called the 1-800-number. you know what happened when they call it? >> if the media would stop calling, maybe legitimate people -- >> our fault? >> alex, i called the 800 number just on the way up to the show, as a matter of fact. what you get is a very soothing, calming female voice that gives you three options. number one, describe the health care exchange. number two, tell you what materials you need if you want to apply. number three, tell you about small business exemptions. and if you're in a state that

has its own exchange, it will give you the phone number for that state. but you basically can't do anything on that 800 number except feel slightly calmed by the voice you hear. >> i tried online an it's not a calming experience. i spent about two hours. i managed to get myself an account. that was hard enough because i couldn't remember who my maternal grandfather's first name was, which is seriously one of the security question was. >> but my government knows what my maternity grandfather's name was. >> also video game, shows the age limit they are trying to attract, clearly isn't me. i didn't know any. >> pac-man. >> that would have dated me. >> donkey kong. >> the thing is this. first "washington post" abc news poll. support for affordable care act has gone up from 42% in october and september to 46% in october.

>> that shows rapepublican idio. >> i don't want to be pollyannaish about this. in ohio, 275,000 low in come ohioans are going to now have access. tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands enrolled in state run exchanges, federal exchange is a disaster. that doesn't mean it can't be fixed and the program itself is very important. >> those numbers reflect people for whatever glitches or what have you, seeing, trying to avail themselves of all the things they didn't have available to them before. i have to say this freak out on the left so reminds me of the freak out on the left after the first presidential debate between president obama and mitt romney when people were tearing their hair out, rending garments, setting themselves on the fire because the president had thrown the election.

look how that turned out. same thing will happen to this if people give it a chance to work and the administration fixes the problem. >> howard, that is we're coming off progress i was feeling themselves, to put it in colloquial. >> you want to rephrase that. >> feeling confident. >> better. >> at least -- better. feeling better about their political standing given self-immolation of gop and debt ceiling debacle. all of a sudden literally two days later we've lost all political capital, the president is on the defense. what happened here? i am not entirely sure -- i'm not sure at all that's the case. >> that's partly because nobody feels there's any margin for error in our politics today. you've got ted cruz and others painting the starkest possible pictures of conflict. so everything seems like the apocalypse every day. that's the way our politics run

right now. but i think that the people losing sight of the fact, as you pointed out, that the medicate expansion is incredibly important. not every state did that. every state should do that. that's the easier part to administer. that's expansion of an existing program. the other thing here about the exchanges is, lets not forget most people already have insurance. most people are spectators on the sideline for this. they have a very mixed view of it. that's both a problem for white house but in a way a benefit, too. most of the country not directly involved in dealing with this right now. >> these are not too mutually exclusive propositions. the idea less than a week ago we were all writing the demise of the republican party because of the shutdown and debt ceiling fiasco and now we have a real problem on the obama care rollout. those two are both true things. although you point to the states where there has been pickup on the websites, there are still serious problems if you look at

the three big states. california seems to be a relative success story. what we really need is high-volume of young latinos to pick up in texas and in florida. in those states we're not seeing it. if they don't, then it's more than just a website problem, it's actually a problem -- >> because the economics don't work. if you don't have -- >> 7 million people need to sign up. >> it would be very interesting to see demographically how many numbers we're getting in california which took on its own exchange program compared to texas and florida. >> you're faced once again with government working well in blue states and working badly in red states. it's a broken terrible thing, once again gains currency and traction. >> a good point. looking at this from a political lens, just like the republican fiasco with the shutdown of the debt limit, it was a year away from the next elections.

this, too, will pass. our modern society, lets assume we do a grand bargain, a debt deal, which is great for the country. forget politics. >> a massive assumption. >> if we did, it would wipe away all the problems republicans had with government shutdown and debt limit. it would have cured the problem, so that problem goes away. if this glitch turns out to be solvable -- >> this goes away. >> it's far too early to talk about political repercussions. so my friends on the left should also calm down and take a deep breath. >> lets note debt ceiling and government funding both run out next year in just a few months. maybe it will be a perfect storm of glitches and brinksmanship. we have to take a short break. his name was ubiquitous during shutdown to some republicans ted cruz's name is mud. we'll discuss lone star's lone star next. [ male announcer ] this is claira.

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government shutdown, texas senator ted cruz went full steam ahead yesterday on his mission to make everyone that he works with hate him. speaking to tea party supporters in his state of texas, cruz had this to say. >> we didn't ultimately win this battle, because unfortunately senate republicans didn't unite and stand with house republicans. well, and i suspect -- i suspect there's some senate republicans who have gone home to their states and may be hearing from

their constituents right now. >> but the people who work with him weren't the only targets of cruz's rage. >> some folks, some of our friends in the media say, gosh, there are a few people in washington saying some mean things. who cares? because at the end of the day, i don't work for the party bosses in washington. >> to clarify ted cruz doesn't work for party bosses in washington except for jim demint heritage foundation ceo who spearheaded the government shutdown and the party bosses at the senate conservatives fund, demint-backed group that built a war chest of $2 million in one month off the cruz endorsed website, don'tfundobamacare.com. party bosses who poured $1.2 million into his campaign

coffers last quarter. apparently it's the other bosses cruz is referring to and they are not haep happy. speaking yesterday grand pooh-bah of republican establishment tom do not hughes dismissed the upstart senator using perhaps the metaphor, i sort of think about cruz as a tennis player, if you're going to rush the net you better have a lot of motion to the left and to the right. he hasn't proved that to me yet. no one, not even tennis players are exactly sure what tom donahue means by that but costing american economy $24 billion and trying to kneecap your co-workers has its consequences. jonathan, where are we? there is a lot of thinking that moderates in the party are going to finally stand up to the likes of ted cruz. the fact tom donahue came out and made that weird tennis

metaphor about ted cruz is a damming proposition for ted cruz's future, yet the chamber of commerce helped raul labrador to center stage, won spirit of enterprise award, adamant member of the defund camp and voted against the final deal to refund the government. these are the seeds, harvest the chamber must reap. >> right, poor tom donahue. >> and his tennis game. >> and his tennis game. here is the thing, senator ted cruz and the folks in the tea party who came in 2010, 2012, they don't care what tom donahue thinks, they don't care what wall street thinks, they only care about what their constituents think. their constituents sent them, for the most part to washington to shut down the government, repeal obama care, do all the things ted cruz did to upset the

apple cart in washington in general. >> i think what this points to, if not the demise of ted cruz, a real serious intraparty battle between moderate folks -- calling them moderate -- chamber of commerce versus heritage action. you now have effectively warring factions here. you have karl rove with his funds to cherry pick better candidates for 2014 and 2016 because he doesn't want to see christine o'donnell back on the ballot. how does this resolve itself? >> first of thing, talking about the demise of ted cruz is really premature. we were talking during the a break if you polled iowa, chris christie and ted cruz is leading the poll. he's not dead yet at all. he could still emerge as the candidate. again, he's got time to clean up

his mistakes. don't write him off. he's a pretty smart guy in many ways. in terms of the overall politics of this, i think the biggest group in trouble are republican moderates. we now have a great argument to take those republican moderates out and replace them with democrats. i can write the commercial. he's a decent guy and good congressman. you can't vote for him again. that means tea party will blackmail government before, replace him with a progressive democrat. it's the only way we're going to turn this country around. it's a great ad. i don't mean to pick on him, he's a nice guy. >> i don't usually quote karl rove in terms of wisdom, successful movements inside parties are movements that persuade people. speaking to the tea party, can they persuade. thus far, the jury is out. ted cruz can persuade his

constituents but in terms of a national governing party, i'm not sure the tea party is convincing anyone especially since the approval rating for obama care is going up after all these hi jinx to repeal it. >> i would certainly listen to karl rove, he's one of the architects of what we're seeing now. to some extent the tea party is the logical conclusion of the carefully anti-government rhetoric in texas where he came from. this is sharper and more divisive. ted cruz can convince -- he's got a shot convincing many republican if not primary voters in 2016. the style with which he does that and rhetoric he uses and ideology he uses is not a majority in this country. there's no way i don't think it ever will be a majority in this country. that's the problem they have got. that's what karl is talking

about. don't forget when karl rove built george w. bush from the ground up, he built the compassionate, conservative george w. bush, remember. it was george w. bush who pushed through prescription drug benefit. >> immigration reform. >> karl knew how to clothe the anti-government, harshness of coming out of texas with more mainstream traditional republicanism. ted cruz is the unvarnished, unclothed version of it. karl's point is that will never sell to the country as a whole. >> go ahead. >> i'm onnot sure tea party sees it as a problem. depends what the ambitions of the tea party are. i remember in 2009 going to missouri and enter veeg tea party when it was starting. it was local. they wanted to control local party. when you see those that signed the suicide letter, what they

are concerned about is how things run in their district. i think they are happy to gum up the system and give a kick to the establishment. i'm not necessarily sure they are thinking we need to have a national platform to take over politics and policy. >> i've got to ask you, it's a mitch mcconnell question. therefore i must ask you. the senate conservatives fund endorsed matt bevin, mcconnell's challenger from the right. if she's right and they don't have national, why kneecap the guy bringing everyone together and getting a deal. >> bunch of forces, the local people that sprang up on their own at the beginning of the tea party movement and i covered them also. that was genuine. you have big actors, not only jim demint and his organization but koch brothers and other wealthy individuals who under the current rules can spend millions or tens of millions to help turn that government resentment into a national

crusade. ted cruz has seen that emerge. he's put himself at the head of that parade. that's what's gone on here. that's quite a powerful thing. i'm not sure karl, who i've covered for years, knows quite -- i'm not sure what's left of the establishment knows quite how to deal with it. mitch mcconnell had to do the deal to get the government running again. he felt he had to do that deal. he helped do that deal after spending weeks of not doing anything and making it worse, he came in at the end to help secure the deal. the fact that he did so, he knew that he was going to get the challenge and get the money against him. he's calculating somehow -- >> lets be clear. mitch mcconnell had a lot more money than matt bevin does in current coffers. he's also looking at senate and wanting to give republicans a shot. >> mcconnell has like a 38% approval rating in kentucky. >> the other thing, though, oom not a huge fan of the senate

minority leader but i had to give him credit for doing something that no one in the republican party on capitol hill actually did. that was to choose governing over politics. clearly at the last possible moment. but there aren't many people in the republican party left, it seems, on capitol hill who remember what it's like to govern. >> what it's like to do that. >> before we give mitch mcconnell to much credit for coverage, i think he's more worried about challenge in the general election. we have a terrific woman. i think he's assessed he's going to survive the republican primary but have a tough general. >> you know, john boehner, the hill in a headline says wounded boehner to pivot. sources close to boehner says the speaker field emboldened by scores of gop lawmakers who privately admitted they made a

mistake by endorsing ted cruz's strategy during the shutdown battle. i just wonder how long those scores of lawmakers privately have those conversations and are not lured back to mr. firebrand. >> i think it's a question of numbers again. you're right that there's a desire now to push this further. but they are always going to be limited. they are limited by people they have in positions of power. they are going to be limited by the number of people in the country that support them. there's a finite amount of appetite for the tea party. people are not drinking cups and cups of this stuff. one cup will do. >> that's coming from a british person. there is a limit. >> they haven't boiled the water properly either. >> how much tea one can drink. >> there's a limit. >> we have to take a break. the saying goes as ohio goes so goes the nation. what about so virginia goes, so goes gop. republican civil war, the old dominion just ahead.

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there are new since the government shutdown not only cutback economic growth in october but depressed job creation in september as well. the labor department reported today that 148,000 jobs were created last month. significantly lower than expected prompting one canadian economist to write u.s. labor market has lost what little momentum it had. with rising political uncertainty ahead of the shutdown, likely one cause. u.s. markets up with speculation the week's job numbers will encourage the feds to continue ongoing economic stimulus program. this is the last jobs report that the central bank officials will see before meeting later to discuss that policy. meanwhile labor department report add drop in unemployment to 7.2%, the lowest since president obama came to office. unfortunately that drop is

mainly due to fewer people entering the workforce and not because of an increase in hiring. after the break, virginia gubernatorial candidate terry mcauliffe is about to get a big boost from new york mayor michael bloomberg. while opponent ken cuccinelli enlists the services of steady eddie mr. sweater vest rick santorum. we'll look at virginia and schisms in the republican party something we do on every show and continuing now. [ male announcer ] welcome back all the sweet things your family loves with 0-calorie monk fruit in the raw. it's made with the natural, vine-ripened sweetness of fruit, so you can serve up deliciously sweet treats without all the sugar. raw natural sweetness, raw natural success.

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the race between ken cuccinelli and democrat terry mcauliffe has become a battleground in the war between the republican party. cuccinel cuccinelli's firebrand conservatism passionate opposition to the nation's health care law, questionable support for the shutdown, ultraconservative opposition to birth control and reproductive choice and shameless support for sodomy bans all this appears to have put ken cuccinelli in a bad place with voters. not only slipping in the polls, his campaign so distasteful to members of his own party for the first time in modern virginia history, the state's largest newspaper, right leaning richmond times dispatch refused to support a candidate for governor. only 14 days to election both campaigns in high gear. yesterday new york city mayor michael bloomberg threw his hat and a million dollars into the ring for terry mcauliffe while

rick santorum's super pac asked supporters to get out the vote for ken cuccinelli. the most memorable was when michelle and jim bob duggar, star of reality show 19 kids and counting threw their weight behind cuccinelli and launched a searing indictment of whoever his opponent is. >> such a stark contrast between ken cuccinelli and his opponent terry -- what is the guy's name. >> just say his opponent. >> i'll try again. there's such a stark contrast between ken cuccinelli and his opponent. let me -- hold on a second. terry -- how do you say that. >> mcauliffe. >> there's such a stark contrast between ken -- let me try it again. get tongue twisted here. a long day. such a stark contrast between --

let me try again. okay. there's such a stark contrast between ken cuccinelli and terry mccaslin. >> just say his opponent. >> whatever his name is mccaslin, mccaskill. >> i'd like to point out we don't get doovers here. >> there are tears. >> slightly mean. >> that was not our tape. this is a testament, though, governor -- governor, it's kind of like whoever that guy is. whoever that guy is, terry whatever his name is we're voting for him because he's not ken cuccinelli or against him. latest poll, terry mcauliffe 46% of vote. ken cuccinelli 38% of the vote. governor rendell, how did this happen? >> the gender gap. cuccinelli in that poll is

slightly ahead among men but losing women's vote by 20%. that's the microcosm the challenge of the republican party is going to face. even chris christie, there's stuff in his background, position on choices, his money. he's not clearly an advocate of women's right. his persona doesn't play as well with women as it does with men. i don't see any way the republican party between now at '16 can nar toe that gap, even a generic democrat but if it's hillary clinton, a huge problem. >> before we get to hillary clinton, katty, i agree christie has problems with marriage equality but ken cuccinelli is way out there. he's against borings in every case, personhood bills, called birth control sterilization mandate, pressured state

officials who crackdown on women's clinics. >> what about sodomy. >> issues, basic reproductive rights. he way out there and, surprise, doing terrible among women and may cost him the election. >> that's exactly right. he opposes abortion in every case, rape and incest included, pressure on women's health clinics to be much more stringent on laws than he has other clinics in virginia. if you want to look at why during the last election women turned against republican party ken cuccinelli is the poster child for that position that women just don't feel comfortable. throw in the fact virginia is basically virginia and arlington and arlington is not representative of the rest of the state, much more liberal, a lot of single women who live there, a lot of women unsure about republican party's position and you get the answer to your poll. it's probably not they are

massively in favor. >> terry mccaskill or whatever his name is. okay, tea party. here is your guy. look where he is. he is going to lose the virginia governor's race to terry mcauliffe. >> why do you say it like that? >> not someone i think a lot of democrats thought would be running and he'll probably sit in the governor's house. >> he ran four years ago. >> lost in the primary. >> i think this says a lot about the limits of the appeal of the tea party and tea party candidates. >> statewide. >> statewide. we saw what happened to i am not a witch. what was her name. >> christine o'donnell. >> you can just say i am not a witch and they know who you're talking about. >> i'm not surprised he's doing poorly, i'm heartened by it. here is a person in a party that preaches the government should stay out of people's lives.

everything you just mentioned would put the governor in the lives of women in the most intimate decisions they have to make. >> not all tea partiers are socially conservative. >> that's right. >> but i want to ask you about the fact terry mcauliffe the democratic gmpk for virginia what are implications for 2016. >> it's big. what we didn't mention, whatever chance cuccinelli had was seriously damaged by the shutdown. this is granular. there's so many federal employees in virginia, northern virginia. that was a direct consequence of tea party thinking on jobs and the economy in northern virginia. nothing could make terry mcauliffe's case better than the government shutdown. virginia is the new ohio in many ways. barack obama, in certain respects based his electoral strategy on virginia. he won virginia twice.

tim kaine, who is governor, now a senator, first governor in the south to endorse, maybe the first governor to endorse barack obama, as a matter of fact. northern virginia especially has become the wheelhouse of national politics. it gets a tremendous pamt of attention because it's right across the river from washington, d.c. if terry mcauliffe wins, his governorship -- be careful what you wish for if you're a democrat, maybe he'll do well. his governorship will be in the spotlight and will become a continued testing ground between tea party anti-governmentalism and whatever terry mcauliffe comes up with as governor and it will be important. >> a lot of republicans pinned their hope on moderate governors, folks in the state house dealing with the rubber meeting the road. i wonder if you think there will be renewed attention to governorships given how influential governors have been. even in something like the

affordable care act, looking at the key role they have played implementing expanding rolls and so forth. is there a chance democrats can take back more state houses in the coming elections. >> there clearly is. a lot of these so-called conservative governors who won in the 2010 lapped slides tacked to the left. john kasich in trouble at one point takes the medicaid funding. >> rick scott wants to take the medicaid funding. >> rick scott wants to take the medicaid funding. they have tried to move to a more moderate status even then. if they get re-elected, i think they will play an important role determining who the nominee is. >> alex, one thing. those guys get to run for re-election, governor of virginia gets one term. terry mcauliffe gets into office and hit the ground running, spotlight on the governorship will be intense because he has one term to do a lot. >> terry mccaskill, go do it. coming up, is france really

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was. first we find out america was spying on its citizens now the french. listened to more than 70 million french phone calls. french officials rushed to condemn the united states calling revelations totally unacceptable and summoning immediate discussions between the two allies. yesterday president obama placed a call to the french president hollande. these were leaked by snowden. because you're the historic enemy of the british person i go to you first. foreign policy analyzes this as a winning and nod implicit in these revelations. we spy on you. you spy on us. it's how the game is played. >> ooh la la.

>> can't believe spying. >> reports in the french media they are doing the exactly the same thing on their own citizens. i think the only surprise is in washington among diplomats that the french responded to -- >> frenchly. >> perhaps one should expect -- >> we were talking about the segment, howard. what's been interesting about revelations from edward snowden it's a good bellwether what the international communities thinks, french outraged, mexican and brazilian pushed back. that's more like their indignation about the u.s.'s role in latin america and how the u.s. has sort of been medaling in their affairs for a historically long time. >> songs the chinese don't say anything we're fine. they are buying our treasury bills. as long as they don't object, they are busy trying to crack into our phone conversations, too. this is happening around the

world. the head of sun micro system, there's no such thing as privacy, get over it. we're entering an era everybody assuming not only private companies with a commercial interest but governments for everything. they asked katty when she was signing up for health care who her maternal grandfather was. >> i have no idea. >> that's the era we're in. on one level it's shocking. we have to figure out how to legislate and adjudicate this new world we're in. that's the world we live in. >> i wonder, jonathan, as a tech savvy person what you think of edward snowden and where he ends up in history. certainly we're in a period with much discussion, he's in russia living freely, making comments and the like. how do you see him in 10 years. >> as a journalist, i appreciate

all the information he has put out there for all of us to comb through, examine and pass judgment on. i cannot see him as a hero. he was hired to do a job that required him to keep things secret. if he had stayed in the united states in the way elsberg did, handed himself over to officials and faced justice here on american soil i could see him as a hero. to run off to china, hong kong, moscow, sorry, can't go there. >> we would always push government rendell to be more of a tweeter. now his strategy of having a small digital footprint is quite genius. once again you're five steps ahead. >> i do tweet now. >> selective. >> innocuous. >> football. >> exactly. we have to leave it there. thank you to howard, katty, jonathan and governor rendell. see you tomorrow.

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