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with such a resurgent past, this terrible and terrible, uh, which is called the soviet union, that is, now ukraine is at war with the soviet union. here is how, for example, interprets this topic. uh, if he is klitschko the mayor of the city of kiev, the russians want us back to the soviet union, but that will never happen. we were in the ussr and we don’t want to go back there. now a huge wave of patriotism has risen in ukraine, every ukrainian is ready to fight, and i want to repeat. we will never kneel. we do not want to live under a dictatorship. we wish to live in in a free country, human rights are the main priority, democratic values are our priority, because we do not want to return to the ussr in the future. we see ourselves as part of a european family and we are fighting for our future. well, as you understand , this message is addressed not only to ukrainians, otherwise klitschko would have been spoken exclusively in ukrainian, and he speaks english. this means that it is addressed to those who raise
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english, that is, to the western consumer of information. why is it necessary about the ussr remember now? well, because he's scary. the west is not even some kind of ukrainian voters or citizens. he scares the west with the terrible soviet union, and in this sense, klitschko repeats what clinton said, they all scare the soviet union. well , firstly, the soviet union was very different, and secondly, the soviet union, when it was destroyed by gorbachev and yeltsin for ukraine, these are solid positive things, the strongest economy, and the calmness of prosperity. this is a performance. we're sorry to get ahead of ourselves. there we will have the next story. that's the textbook right there. in my opinion, yes, there we will give you a quote, as he now explains to ukrainian schoolchildren. this here is the soviet period. why is it not no prosperity no prosperity? yes, horrors are nightmares, well, in any case, uh! i want to say that today, hmm, russia is not a soviet union, not according to its social structure, not according to its purpose, and, for example,
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i think, probably, that this is not very good for the soviet empire. no matter how it is now, we cannot recreate what we are not today. today we are the same capitalist country as ukraine answers to baidan's statement that russia, from the side of the 21st century, a has turned into a country of 19. the answer is a map of russia 19, including alaska and in general, as it were. well, in general, if you say so in a few sentences, this message of klitschko is directed at the western audience, which was afraid of the soviet union , they continue to tune it in the sense that russia is always the soviet union, but for ukrainian citizens it is a horror story. the main thing connected with the famine, which was in the thirtieth year russia will come, will be famine. here is the package they are sending. to me it seems that there is a message here, well, in addition to the obvious ones that nikolai v. listed. there is also a very simple ussr - this is automatically awareness a of the inevitability of the cold war. here is the new ussr, the task of confrontation is one pole - this is the west and
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the second pole is the ussr as for the famine and all the other, uh, sad events that really took place in soviet times, but this is part of the mythological consciousness, which, like these quotes from textbooks . they, unfortunately, defeat the truth if these myths are broadcast through means formation of mass media in the soviet union, in addition to the economic advantages of ukraine, ukraine became a nation state. she received the territory of the national language of the intelligentsia culture in the soviet era of the book. published with a circulation of 100-200,000 copies in the ukrainian language, now such circulations in independent ukraine, e, and no one heard in soviet times the population grew to 52 million. and now it has decreased by a few million people without any wars until 2014. and you were telling me a story backstage. e, in social networks. here somewhere they read about how we are represented there by some kind. this is what it is facebook devastation this is facebook well, the
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meta banned in our country now is just people screenshots. in short, there is some kind of ukrainian figure. well, there is some activist, he writes the following, that russian soldiers are stealing ukrainian military mobile phones. well, how is the trophy there or something a and starts using these phones, because they don’t have their own, but the cunning sbu of the security service of ukraine is wiretapping. these here are the calls that the russian military makes from ukrainian phones, so what the russians are talking about this person claims, referring to. well , apparently, they say that they are shocked by what a rich and beautiful country of ukraine, how much they were able to reward here and bring. it's all home. that is, they rejoice at how much good they bring home, because the following quote is verbatim . many of them saw asphalt and street lamps for the first time . well, adrianovich. this actually fits in with us in the editorial office there is a person whom, uh, there are relatives in ukraine who have been
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zombified for 8 years. uh, ukrainian televisions and channels. they are sure that there is hunger here. he sits in the crimea, they are malnourished. and in general, complete ruin. everything was stolen. here's the almost verbatim story. come on, but listen. i agree, they really absolutely rightly noted that klitschko spoke in english, but klitschko also speaks the obvious, but i mean that this speech is not for ukrainians, but not for ukrainians ukrainians, in principle, have to explain anything not it is necessary, they are ukrainians, the history of the soviet union is important, to whom those who grew up, uh, outside the soviet union , those who watched the european union absolutely have nothing to do with it. and i remind you that 30 years have passed since the collapse. two generations, almost two generations have grown up, they are already adult uncles, uh, and aunts who do not remember the soviet union and they were explained to them all these 30 years that the soviet union was bad, and now they are explaining to the nazis that
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russia, the empire, is an imperial consciousness. we need to confront the empire another message another so say e russia some kind of empire, which is just a copy of the soviet union and more, that they got even worse, but because the soviet union is there, at least there, but something, and the empire is worse. it devours our identity. she does not measure up with the fact that ukraine is a separate country, but another big problem is that, and she, by the way, wanted to say, are partly truthful. yes, when russia is reproached, after all, the choice is which europe and russia and what in europe and in europe are pensions, and in europe are cars? sand we ride horses a in europe wait you can what is alexander nikolaevich here is such a reaction about pensions? what would you not start talking about? immediately begins the pension
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machine payouts and so on jeans gum. yes, it's not about jeans and gum. i lived in the soviet union for 33 years and there was nothing good about this soviet union. you are talking about something that has nothing and people argue that they have nothing to do with the soviet union. today, half of my life has passed in the soviet union and no one will prove to me that there was at least something there. and how to say? wait and your brilliant education. you received in soviet times. i am the soviet era. what well, nothing at least found something. excuse me, before the revolution. i would get even more evolution. so there is no need to compare, but nothing in this. if you lived in nazi germany i think you would have a brilliant career, but then i was told, most likely, most likely. yes, we went along with others sitting. yes, i’m waiting, you didn’t let me say the main thing, so we are talking about the fact
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that the anti-ukrainian project is a project, in fact absolutely communist, because it was the dpr of the lpr. implemented a practically left-wing post communist project of partial consent, took the initiative to recognize these terrorist gangster organizations independently neatly neatly. yes please, yes, neatly terrorist gang organizations keep control of themselves or else communism rises. maybe another thing is nazism, which everyone loves to give about now. always and under all circumstances arises as a response to international communist influence, including we are dealing since. you can talk about some kind of ukrainian nationalism there, precisely
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as a response to this pressure from outside, first in donetsk. republic a. then this thesis, false, can be destroyed with just one question. here, look ukrainian nazism. it arose much earlier than the dpr lc. and the dpr of the lpr is a response to nazi propaganda. he says that in general nazism. it was a check of wine left traffic. this can be said about german fascism, ukrainian fascism. it appeared as a geopolitical tool. what internationalism. and what kind of internationalism do you say, unfortunately it was no longer there, and fascism was grown in ukraine, and only as a response to this will people return now to opportunities. i maksimovich began to defend the so-called russian- speakers, we will now show you the material. actually. well, let's continue with the latter. well, not 30 years, but a little less, where communization in ukraine became, in fact, such a, well, state ideology,
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getting rid of any memory of something soviet, let's see how decommunization went. he will remind you. at the end of january last year, the last lenin monument in ukraine was demolished in the odessa region, decommunization, losing 7 years ended during this time, two and a half thousand monuments were dismantled, 987 settlements and 52,000 were renamed. activists on the streets were saying that decommunization alone is not enough and it's time to turn on the abolition for the entire soviet culture. it is necessary to change the consciousness in the complex there are three stages. the first is the decommunization of the soviet people, the second is what needs to be done, so that communism is not broadcast into the future and the third understanding that decommunization is not only about the stalins. vatutin and vladimir vysotsky alla pugacheva mark zakharov and viktor tsoi pay special attention to the soviet past, the current kiev authorities in schools in the new history textbooks describe the period of soviet ukraine as a time of
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repression and stagnation, even the gas that was carried out managed to put in a negative way. destructive changes in appearance ukrainian villages have undergone during the communist regime in ukrainian villages were thousands of churches were destroyed, clubs appeared, multi-storey residential buildings of urban type centralized gas supply and water supply, however, such measures only led to the mass relocation of peasants to cities where living and working conditions were better. call the independence referendum a mission for the humiliation by russia 90 couples of the ninety-first year. ukraine collapsed the soviet union through a referendum , this should be remembered and be proud of what exactly ukrainians destroyed the evil empire this is the sacred response of the ukrainians, but the humiliation for 1,000 years in the annual reports. it is about world happiness. ukraine
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was not at the top of the list at all. and to be honest, closer to the tail, ex-foreign minister klimkin explained that one of the reasons is the soviet past of the country. and the ratings are usually higher, but this does not prevent ukrainian propaganda from calling our country a copy of the ussr and a prison of peoples. russia is a tracing paper of the ussr so that the soviet people do not want to build, they will always build a prison of the peoples, those who wants ukraine to return to the framework of the union republic as part of the new ussr of russia, or whatever they call the new ghettos, they carefully preserve their psyche, so as not to see the truth about life in the soviet union, the homo-soviet man in the street has still not been able to understand what to live in russian. it 's living in a prison in a ghetto in disempowerment with palm oil according to gost and toilet paper in a sausage, maxim well, it's very easy to imagine russia as such people who mean toilet paper in a sausage, and toilet paper in toilets and you can’t imagine us as an absolute soviet union, and thus it’s just primitive and
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i don’t even want to waste time on stupid people who say that this eradication of vysotsky is not for anyone. well, i think everyone understands. and where is vysotsky? where is communization ? alexander nikolaevich, i would argue when he said that e dpr lpr is a communist project. i would remind him that he is a communist shooter, he is just the opposite, if there was a civil war, typical white officer malafeev and other orthodox businessmen who were standing. at the origins of the movement opposed ukraine in donetsk lugansk even before august of the fourteenth year. they are communists, just the opposite, so after all. i think i sowed uh, with my arguments to add something here. i do not know your support or not, but about the characters you have named. i absolutely
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agree. but then when they tried to establish a peaceful life, first a military one, and then a peaceful life in the republics, and completely different people, and they rather built. uh, something like war communism. i asked this question to the same zakharchenko, the deceased, because i say that you, i say, i say, you understand that you are working with methods that will not be approved in modern russia, to which zakharchenko said. yes, we are trying to build the soviet union, we do not need anything, as if superfluous additional. we would like to build that soviet union precisely as a socially responsible state without this ideological pressure. it this is a good argument. really. yes, but my counterargument is this at the same time, and the dpr is the lpr. all the same, they relied on the support of today's russia, but today's is impossible. you heard putin when he
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even spoke about ukraine, he was not from a communist position, i just think that his speech, when he ideologically justified the holding of what began on february 24, it was rather anti-communist. that is, here is the ukraine with which he agrees. that's the one he 's trying to change in some way to dismantle and this is just for putin. if i understand correctly, this is a relic of the soviet era, if it weren’t for, well, conditionally shcherbitsky, by the way, speaking, to whom the communist leaders in moscow gave so much power, and they quietly eradicated the russian language there, maybe , there were no situations, and here are all kinds of political parties. we are now a bit of a supporter of the dpr of the lpr, all kinds of political parties in kiev that were considered one way or another pro-russian. yes they are, but nevertheless they called themselves after all. we're for it russian, we are guided by russia and no image of our country was painted to their voters. well , probably not soviet or soviet which were
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banned, but what do you want to say that boyko also painted no? boyko is not, but ops well no, of course. no but there were none that are important to remember. well, it can already be argued theoretically. well, if you write a dissertation, but that's it. after february 24, you understand how it was before, if it's interesting, but it seems to me that already now they are all anti-russian, you understand, they reacted just like that. well, because actually that's what we're discussing for me as a historian. and here sits tar. well, it's even funny to us. ukraine is a purely soviet product. hmm, a slogan. after all , we also need the get of moscow. we need to move the psychological europe is the ecologist spills. this skripnik is the thirties. argue. i pretty much said the same. these are purely soviet products that they are now destroying. they are not fighting the soviet past at all. they are fighting with the common russian consciousness with the russian language with a common culture and everything and always fought. you understand the soviet traditions of the
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soviet methods of prohibition, as for zakharchenko, but zakharchenko, i'm sorry, he did not have such a brilliant education as smolen. and there, the son, he thought the way he once was, he never tried in any way, but to look like someone who. military leader yes, but he didn’t abolish private property in the dpr, he is the soviet union for him - that’s exactly where the russian language was, where there was some kind of equality, where there was no all this ukrainization with weapons, the vulcan union turns out high the union of the word is a certain historical construction. is not it. here alexander nikolaevich directly shakes him at the mention of thirty-three years lived in the soviet union. i do not know that the soviet union is dead. in the ninety-first year, i am not shaking at all, glory. god died his died, because by and large. it’s a pity, but we don’t feel sorry for the territory and not at all the communist party, which hung noodles on us all our lives and didn’t boyimize the russian people in the cold war, the cold war was lost,
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because the party members decided only with their own means to fight the americans. if they had acted in the same way as in the forty-first in the forty- second year they mobilized all of ours, then they would have to have other banners, and during perestroika, they still throw leninsky krasny with them . i remember very well this leningrad regional committee , which until the end did not make any contacts with anyone, until the liberals dug them up , everything was offered, they were offered evolution, i offer my people, how do you give up this red banner from lenin nothing to the last stood and died , like idiots, so really. so i think that and we all have been living without soviet advice for 30 years, but in ukraine, in fact, with everything and this formal decommunization. they left the ussr. absolutely not the capital union is not far away,
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because the consciousness of that ukrainian, which was formed by the mass ukrainian in the soviet union in the ussr. with the help of ukrainization, all the same methods that were used in the twenties and thirties and then in the sixties were used in the nineties , two thousandths and in 2010 listen, because now it has simply been replaced by that bandera course. it's just impossible to say that ukrainians listen was mazepa was mazepa, what are we going to do or not? they were never ukrainian mazepa well, wait a minute, not for me, samara in the other direction, when we say that ukraine is after all. yes, the country is not created. why, it does not exist, 30 years, there has always been ukrainianism. this is not a thirty-year history, you understand, and i don’t even
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advise me the history of soviet power, it’s all possible nationalism. outpost of the rsfsr and blurred it is almost nowhere else. yes, such banderaism would never have happened now, if the base had not been created in soviet times , a mass ukrainian was created it was then and then already these sprouts of bandera, the communist party sent back and now she is the most furious fighter, maximum one step to bandera, andrey vladimirovich this means that i am closely following the discussion that is going on inside ukraine, which means that the most important issue that is now, uh, is being discussed, uh, in connection with this whole situation and what is being emphasized inside. e ukraine is something that russia today
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wants to eliminate the statehood of ukraine through a special military operation, that’s all about this, the whole discussion is about this, that it’s impossible. let go of the loss of statehood in ukraine because no one can . that the americans no longer want. let's take into account the fact that negotiations with ukraine are moving into a practical plane, a decision has been made to significantly reduce military activity in the kiev and chernihiv direction, the ministry of defense says, that is, here is your information about the desire to liquidate the ukrainian state. she's like for at least a few hours. this is not entirely true, because all this is still all connected with calling shoigu because they understood it. i say again, this is connected with the upcoming easter and that's all and no more. this time. here the catholic is now giving up the question of another version, that this could
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be due to the fact that we are concentrating our forces to destroy those who are in the cauldrons, these are just a few dozen. until now, uh, ukrainian soldiers, after which it may be, who is talking about what and kazakov and about what sivkov always says to us, go, they are already presenting a different wording, which you can read out to the defense , is a wording that means that activity is declining in the kiev chernihiv direction. i say again, maxim anatolyevich, you will not take me at my word either. i say i like the other explanation better, that you are concentrating forces in the southeast. ukraine , we are sorting it out specifically for us, as far as i remember yesterday or this morning, and the ministry of defense said that the same shoigu that we have now the first stage is over, the main goal, the next one is the liberation of donbass, we liberate you, and then we calmly begin to move to the west does not meet such resistance. what they said with us certainly
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does not contradict yours. actually the thesis absolutely. this is just one thing, andrey vladimirovich just says that this is all. we give the opportunity to pass. seeing the catholics of ukraine speaks for the third time. oh, that's right, right? let's go back for a bit, and uh, we'll continue in a few minutes . we're all hooked on avito just a lifesaver you can buy and sell anything, find a jack of all trades and even a job. by the way, avito has been with us for 15 years. dear jury, i expect one version from each of you. who is hiding under this mask there is one of my favorite singers. this is maria crimebrery. incredible
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representatives of our creative elite, a lot of journalists. and well, those who thought that they were here, it means that somehow it doesn’t work. here many have mastered. by the way, they called me there too, by the way, but i told about it in a surprising way in 2013. yes, i received a call, i will not repeat this story now. and now, the process is a little different. those who leave russia. they , uh, well, they are also trying, as far as possible , to settle somewhere closer in ukraine now. it probably doesn't look very logical. here someone is going to the republic, someone is going to georgia, well, someone can move a little further, like gleb valentinovich drunk, for example, you know, a former colleague, he did not go to the former soviet country, he went to turkey well, let's see . journalist fled to istanbul gleb pyanykh almost immediately realized that there wasn’t much to live on, his main income was from advertising on youtube, but the service stopped
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monetizing videos for users from russia , yes, and there was nowhere to withdraw money, because the cards of russian banks do not work, there are problems with obtaining a tourist visa on the residence of the country stopped issuing it 3 weeks ago, if the paperwork fails, others are going to move to portugal, this is not emigration. this evacuation of the card was blocked from us last night, but we are almost all removed. and now we can't even book a hotel hosting a rain channel blocked in russia. anna mangaet moved to georgia and now broadcasts live on youtube, complaining that her children do not receive a normal education and finish school. you will have to independently in absentia along the way rejoices in the telegram channel of hacker attacks on russian ones. ion channels , however, not everything is so rosy, already writes that she made a mistake in choosing a country for emigration, saying that if a nuclear war happens, russia is too close.
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the wildest predictions come true, it’s a pity that we didn’t fly to southeast asia, they say that during the third world war the actress chulpan khamatova, along with her three children, left russia for latvia with her family. i managed to build a house in a latvian village for a long time, but there is no finance for its maintenance, and getting to the village is also inconvenient, according to her cash reserves. hardly enough for 4 months without work, however, immediately after a plaintive interview that the actress had nothing to live on, she was called to the latvian theater now in this situation where i am without a job in the future. in the countryside, how much money do you have to be able to live without work? 3-4 months somewhere they left, they left, they didn’t leave. i'm not going to
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condemn anyone. they left and i had the opportunity to leave. i didn't leave. they left simply, but look, what a thing, here earlier in whatever republic of the soviet union it is fashionable to raise citation, mention and so on, and it is better accepted there. perhaps, they would not have accepted without this factor, but i don’t understand one moment they left. you somewhere in lithuania, you are no longer in russia, well, leave russia no, they are turning andrey vladimirovich into a group about ukrainian propagandists. include their youtube-channels there are dottorians. if you read, if you read my book vitalya andreevich and here and there it is just impossible people.
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