sensors will return to russia only with disabilities and how the us has conceived to exclude russia from what they are doing is not normal about it today in our program. hello, this is the meeting place on ntv , the place where everything becomes clear. we are working live. i am ivan trushkin. still alone, andrey vladimirovich norkin, on sick leave over the past day, has become completely. it is clear that the west is not going to understand the situation in the city of bucha, i remind you that with the filing of ukraine, it speaks of some atrocities that were arranged, retreating, as it were, the russian army against the world population, it became clear that no investigation would be denied to us in holding a special meeting of the un security council, moreover, vladimir zelensky today in his nightly address said that russian journalists, for example, will fall under certain tribunals , if they

deny the events in the bucha, well, i, apparently, will fall under this tribunal, because the longer this whole company is staged. i use this word with staging of massacres in the bucha develops, the more i see all sorts of informational roughness - what is called the ukrainian side did not have time to hide in time. well, let's start. let's take a look at the diplomatic reaction to the actual events in gucci and how they are unfolding, because western countries, of course, use who is he? in klaipeda after lithuania downgrading the type of relations with russia announced. and latvia a. the decision to expel employees of russian embassies was also announced the day before by berlin and paris, in total we are talking about seventy employees of russian missions who left these countries. and now we have added to this list. 15 russian diplomats will leave from there and italy, you said everything in response to

russia's aggression against the sovereign state and ukraine , the well-known, committed by the russian armed forces in the occupied ukrainian cities, including including the horrific massacre in bucha, the lithuanian government decided to downgrade the status of the diplomatic mission and the russian ambassador is obliged to leave the elevator. russian diplomats twice tried to convene a meeting of the un security council on a resonant fake with the city of bucha, but the uk chairing the security council refused to hold a meeting. referring to the fact that a similar meeting is already scheduled for tuesday, meanwhile the pentagon said that it had no evidence of what happened, that however, it did not prevent the us president from blaming putin for everything. you probably remember how i was criticized for calling putin a war criminal, but we saw what happened in the bucha. this proves that he is a war criminal, we must continue to supply ukraine with weapons. which she needs in order to continue the fight, she needs to

collect all the details for a real war crimes trial to take place this guy is cruel what happened in the bucha is blatant and everyone saw it. you call it genocide. no i i think it's a war crime. at the same time, there is more and more evidence that the massacre in bucha is a fake. so, a deputy of the local city council, a day after the withdrawal of the russian military huts, said that not a word about the killed civilians would be carried out on the streets, what is happening does not mean that you can hang around idle everywhere. please, stay at home and do not interfere with the cleansing operation, apparently, attempts to betray, at least some plausibility of the version of enlightenment of the russian newspaper, new york, times, published a certain satellite images of buch allegedly taken. they are another one on march 11 on satellite footage of the street, according to journalists, the bodies appeared there three weeks ago and that's it. this time they lay untouched

in the very positions where they are found over the police of ukraine on april 2. andrey vladimirovich, you often visit us. how to say imagine if the unofficial position of kiev imagine how it all in kiev sees. here you can explain to me two things i don’t want to attack you now, what is called jumping up somehow to lean, aggressively something in such a not want. and i want to try to understand what the bull story is for. it was published right now, because the russian ministry of defense has long said that such provocations can be prepared and the second moment is what ukraine wants from this and how it reacts to all those information, well, not consistent, to put it mildly, publications ukraine does not react to everything, so to speak , information correspondences that we are trying to show and it must be said that, unfortunately, she succeeds very well. unfortunately, including,

because, unfortunately, again, there is no strong counterargument if they showed, uh, the moment of the withdrawal of our troops from the hostamel and so on, where everything is fine. everything is fine. there were such. there was simply no, what ukraine is striving for, first of all ukraine, of course, has already achieved maximum mobilization, and in its support at the political and public level. this is mobilization. andrey vladimirovich was before. this is mobilization. what do you need now? this, and the level is just attempts to translate. ah, russia is a criminal country. in general, not only the attitude towards to the president of russia and the country as a whole, and this is , firstly, an opportunity, of course, for ukraine to take a tougher stance in those negotiations that are still going on and the last thing that is most unpleasant for us. that's what happened it reveals. ah, finally the road to the fifth package of sanctions tomorrow and the sixth package of this for now, we will clean it up in the next part. ukraine in this

sense, it must be honestly said that information has won nothing in ukraine, it does not bother that the new york times newspaper in blue publishes some pictures about that the corpses had lain on the street for 3 weeks. i have andrei vladimirovich. yes, i say, secondly, e i say, i have a certain life experience, not that i'm glad that i have this tramp, but, nevertheless, i'm in 2012. i was in syria and saw bodies that had lain on the street not for 3 weeks, but for two days, they looked like this, i will never be able to forget you, and obviously they looked completely different from these bodies that had lain on the streets, for a maximum of a day, which means , i also want to say that i was in syria and in afghanistan and nicaragua and the gas sector and so on and saw no less. i'll tell you when andrei ivanovich doesn't bother you personally. that's great,

if you move aside the official position of kiev because war is cruelty war is cruelty, lies, you are lying, it does not bother you. eh, i want to say that this is in many ways, of course, a fake, but to say that this is a 100% effect. i can't, even if just a little bit. yes, let's alexander yuryevich about this story, i would answer the words that we, that ukraine won this, uh, informational company. the issue in the theater of war information company western public opinion today for us is not a theater of war, we are not going to spend non-financial inhuman resources on this. here, again, given the fact that we are fighting in the information space, uh, virtual on a virtual level. and our opponents simply cut down the switches, that

is, the ukrainian provocateurs have achieved their goals. we can’t understand anything about this, i understand it correctly and we must come to terms with it. that is, it means she is at war now. well, what is called hybrid, it is multi-level multi-vector. it is truly global. here is the information fund. one of them is diplomatic and economic, the actual military operations are much more important for us now than informational ones. uh, once again the military theater in the west, here to fight. purely in the opinion of the west now, why do international organizations of the un , those who are looking for somehow exist , need to fight for them, but for the european layman it is important for us now . the first is victory on the fronts. eh, the second one is economic victories of holding the ruble of the development economy and so on. it's more important here now. resources need to be directed. you don’t look in

the direction of anton valeryevich almost all the time that you said, he somehow shook his head to explain a different opinion alexander has great respect, but i think that fighting for just the average man in the street is needed in europe this is extremely difficult in europe is difficult in europe in the united states around the world, because it directly depends on what actions will be taken additionally against us and including, what actions were the mother in terms of military assistance in ukraine a. you know the whole story. here you brought a lot of inconsistencies. i don't remember who i read it from. eh? indeed, this is how butch butcher's wordplay itself was chosen. yes butcher that is, in fact, they even picked it up. at this level, in order to influence it, it is clear that the sleeve is the most disgusting situation, that we will not prove anything to the leadership of europe and america there. for one simple reason that, and they already have so many they did so much, they said so much to them. this

story, by the way, is impossible, by the way, given their internal economic political other problems. they are this way. on the contrary, they say that we are doing everything right. and you are there, what are you going to rallies, therefore, in the absence of reinforced concrete , it will roll, and they cannot be for obvious reasons. come on, when they show anything at all, the kiev comrade, they killed everyone there, of course, you won’t prove anything. but we can try to prove. i think that this should be done by the european inhabitants. how to do it? well for example, why russia sought this meeting of the un security council not because we want to. say something to america or other countries, because this is one of the few stands that is still uncensored and where you can speak and bring your point of view. why why in the uk and blocking it, because if she allowed it, this would be our first word, this is our argument and this everything went on the air, at least you understand, anton what broadcast will the times

not completely publish the speech on it? maybe later here? here, unfortunately, i agree with aleksandrovich, because no matter what we say at this meeting of the security council, which is the position, the world position does not change. i'll just show you now. the united states is going. well, they already demanded to exclude russia from the council on human rights about this decision the day before, after the united states, under the same name linda thomas griffield, announced, according to her, after the incident . forces need to be punished urgently, in order to force our country to leave the organization, it will take more 2-3. with e, votes from member countries of the organization, the decision will be put to a vote. the initiative is already supported in the white house. here, jen psaki announced that the united states would seek the suspension of our country's membership in the organization by order of joe biden. that is, this is a personal initiative of the president at the end of march, 12

us senators were preparing similar initiatives in the organization itself, calling on the united states to be restless. but they didn’t see anything illegal ; the rules are established by the members of the council themselves, but according to greenfield, to exclude russia from the hrc, it must not be slowed down. together with ukraine, european countries and other partners in the united nations, we want to seek the exclusion of russia and the un human rights council. 140 member states have already voted to condemn russia, the picture of bucci and devastation across ukraine requires that we immediately back up our words with action. we cannot allow russia to undermine all the principles that we cherish and continue to sit in soviets on assemblies for human rights what they are doing is abnormal. we cannot allow their disinformation and propaganda to penetrate the un rostrum. aleksandrovich, it turns out that they have already decided on their position. we even if it is now

expelled and there will vote these two-thirds of the members. we will lose something so that the stomach do we need to continue walking, and kill these high thresholds, high stands to talk about what you really listen to. we are right. it's not true what we need to keep doing. so in order to assess whether we will lose or not, we must first be reminded of what it is hrc drive is one of the un organizations which consists of 47 members who are selected every 3 years every 3 years from among all the participants in the general assembly and there are quotas for seven continents for africa 7 is there for america and so on and so forth. uh, the russian federation hasn't always been a member of the hrc ; it cannot be repeated more than a twice, and in the twentieth year it was adopted again, it must be said that one way or another

, the membership of the russian federation in the hrc does not automatically drain at the beginning of the twenty-third year, and therefore one should not betray such a great significance of the action. that is, you turn it on. i don't attach much importance to action. honestly. i am a person who somehow captivates himself twice. three times with politics, while i'm talking about the decisions of the human rights council, and he hears. well, to put it mildly, not every day, not every month. and you, and perhaps not every year. i ask you about something else have decided on their position, they don’t care what it can be, then they don’t give a damn about excluding it. well, i exclude the situation of the council of europe one to one. they decide, and we said, yes, we ourselves are not interested in it, we need to work in that body in that unit that actually decides the rights. here are the problems, or rather resolves them, including human rights. they turn it into a whipping boy for another foreign relations russian resolution. ivan sergeevich was received there

. we have the latest evolution of antonch, about russian the resolutions adopted these perfectly conditions. there, at least one person, a special military operation adopted a resolution, just the human rights council. he who spoke and condemned the unilateral sanctions imposed by the country, which means, uh, in relation to russia, everything else is a tribune. people write about this, usually the layman kind of an alternative picture of the world, men. well, what are you, let's close, in general, i want to say we won't arrange for three. still. come on, i fully support the thesis. anton we really can't just not listen to us they don't want to hear us, not squeaking, not poboing, not on any other problem of us. we will

just say something, and they are like that. well, yes, these are russians. antonovich, on the contrary, offers to go there. yes , it means that the official bodies do not hear us the only thing, and to whom can we reach out to this miners? yes, europeans, and here before the biography, it is necessary to expand the geography and say not only about europeans, but also in part theoretically a satellite, yes, which closed, but rt and this satellite are not enough civil activists. we can with you say so, i call everyone. just go to the western media there, read some comments that ordinary people write. here is a platform for them. including the military with the help of human means, with which we can manifest our position, our position for the layman, so that he advances there and people are good. well, you can call, but you can’t refuse

this hill according to the custom two words sergeevich means, listen to me. this is bucha this is, uh, history, like another hot spot on there is a ukrainian map, kharkiv there, mariupol, the amount and so on, and now be in the information space and this is the point where the war is going on, the information war, and we must win or either prove or present our position. i really hoped for a meeting of the un security council. i really hope that the russian ministry of defense and the russian foreign policy department. are there concrete arguments confirming that this is a fake? get out of there. it would not be necessary to agree, in fact, but people will not understand. we talked a lot here easy to say. hell, it’s not easy, now emotions themselves said. you yourself said that there are

some advanced philistines. yes, who could hear us guys. and can we now show this story with a photograph from the well, we can show this is that one photograph, in which one could understand and understand that the townsfolk are trying somehow, well, to deceive or breed, then more details have become about the photo let's put it on the screen there. she went on social networks with the postscript mirny a resident tortured to death by russians photographer agency ossore, this press claims that in the picture a certain civilian is called gennady merchinsky by ukrainians, while they call him igor sukhenko in a completely different way. why is this name important to sukhenko? the husband of the head of the village motyzhin and the inhabitants of this village claim that he was not afraid to take up arms in order to go fight the russians, that is, this man became a participant in the fighting, moreover, the local rainbow khenko was elected from the ukrainian party of strength and the honor of the head, which general colonel meshko, former head of the hut. well, here

's an example for you, alexei gennadievich. well, a little bit to dig a little bit and understand that this is not what the photos show you. if there is a tribune, and with the help of which the western country, as if to hear , you can be reminded that mr. zelensky signed the decree and in fact. it is a document yes at the state level, according to which any ukrainian can take up arms and therefore fight, this is an absolutely anti-humane order, if a bunch of ram aside, there is there are quite specific facts, there are atrocities against our guys, yes, our western countries, which are now so united, will not pay attention to these atrocities, because of which attention does not pay attention. and we will now show you alexei gennadievich, and then we will kind of draw some kind of conclusion , they may not see it. or they see it, but they miss it, of course. quite so, the russian soldiers released from captivity

, whose testimonies were published by our ministry of defense, spoke about bullying and cruel appeal of the ukrainian security forces. they were deprived of water, food was not allowed to sleep, and those who refused to cooperate were constantly beaten and killed. i heard how a man’s ribs break, a comrade kneels on his knees, his hands behind his head give up and he turns around. it turns out that he fired a line from a machine gun at him constantly mocked by the pilots and they said that if the pilots return to russia, then only with disabilities, and on the eve of the deputy minister of information of the dpr daniil bessonov published a terrible video on social networks, where ukrainian nationalists are cracking down on russian prisoners of war on the footage already show blood, the hands of the guys are tied, and one of them is still alive , the nazis, indicatively finish off under the approving comments watched well, everything, he is already wheezing.

the good names of at least three participants in the massacre have already been named, it is reported that this is a militant of the so-called georgian legion. you once and zanishvili kiev resident alexei antonyuk and a certain alexei chicken. in social networks, they found photos of them from official kiev, there were no regrets, no reports of an investigation. but the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine said that residents of the kharkiv region allegedly fed our soldiers with poisoned pies, according to agent medusa , two died 28 in intensive care on ukrainian social networks, this is the appeal of the representative of the national police of ukraine andriy the mockery of the russian military

was supported at the state level more weeks ago, in correspondence with a british air, the kiev authorities openly refused to follow the geneva convention in the treatment of prisoners of war andreevich and to whom we are here that we are trying to prove all this video. it. unfortunately, there is no response on the social network right now. you know, there is no west, i monitored one project in the oven. now i didn’t even touch the british social networks from the european social network, everything is clear european there. they are always for human rights. for them, a person. this is the main value, none of them wrote anywhere. and what is most offensive is all these people who are ashamed to be russian, who left russia from somewhere and now massively support all fakes, we are trying none, creature. one of them is a faggot. sorry, for the first time i swear on the air, i didn’t write about these tortures with obscenities. until then, don't fight. you don't

need to be there. here's what they saw. they just turned a blind eye to it. and now, after that, they will call themselves russian citizens, russian journalists, where the vaunted european journalism, which many put it to us, you know , as an example of world professionalism, that they always delve into the details and compare points of view. here they do it, here they don't. they have it there is one point of view, a point of view that seems to come from kiev. we perfectly understand who the scriptwriters of this whole story are, not zelensky , who, by the way, is smiling and smiling. these shots. they were everywhere too. note. today, the british tabloids came out of the headlines, where zelensky is with this mournful mine. uh-huh, but in parallel with our media, where he smiles, a man walks and smiles along the bucha. i don't know if he's got some kind of cocaine fumes in there, or if he 's just crazy. or just a cynical beast to another question. and let's show it, because we actually also prepared these shots, which

means that he came the day before. uh, he said in a storm there on cameras, he really blamed russia for everything in a mournful speech, he said that as many journalists as possible should visit the storm, and the western press. she immediately responded, leading world publications published in editorials that very mournful face, about which you took andreevich just now spoke, however. well, if you look at other photos of the video where he walks with his team. here he walks smiles does not look very sad and i want to title it, of course, this interview is a good face on a bad game. continue there was already such a technology, because there is nothing new under the sun, but the ninety-ninth year of the cat village of rachik. all this was already in world history, when the serzh army was allegedly accused. she killed 45 peaceful albanians, did the serbs explain that this was the army of the uchk, that they were simply dressed in civilian decay? well, that is a staging performance, what do you think? the servos said how we are now about. let's do international investigation. let's involve some

independent bodies. nato refused them this, but what was done only after that, maybe there is no need to repeat the serbian mistakes. i'm talking about this, because all that the serbs got after that was the bombing of yugoslavia and the so -called, uh, humanitarian intervention. we understand very well, yes, what is the humanitarian italians in the traditions of nato, moreover, these same cynical bastards who accused the serbs, then what do you think of the murder of these albanians in 2006 serb dropped all charges, because there was no evidence, there was no invoice that they were killing then this evidence was no longer objected to. andrey object. just wanted to point out one thing. yeah, including what was said about what the ukrainians wrote there, and to the british, and so on, and the like ukraine today wants one against the background of all this a and b. in general, it does not hide it. they teach that they say in kiev the following we are ready to apply the geneva convention on humane treatment

prisoners of war. provided that russia recognizes that it is waging war? and because the geneva convention is valid only when war is declared and there is no water over the american one, i’m just talking about another argument already in our studio last week, andrey ivanovich norkin was absent for this and for you. that is, it turns out that the word war has not yet been written. you can cut people, kill them, bandage their throats, shoot them in the knees. andrei vladimirovich , of course, the word war does not work. geneva convention. it's really. yes, human i would even say, you somehow call up people who are close to ukraine or understand what is happening there, you tell them. about these videos, our guys do not give up the question, their reaction, they are interested in the wording. they say it's war. they declare war on russia, they say that russia

has not declared war on us, we are not going to do it. try to summarize. why does this happen in such a classical sense, any military conflict, uh, and there are some rules, that exist during its implementation implies the presence of combatants and non-combatants - this is international law. those who participate in hostilities are not combatants, journalists are civilians . those who don’t often have this, it seems that all the rules ended somewhere at the beginning of the 19th century. for a long time, warriors have not been conducted like this, and all of them are written only so that these rules simply exist formally . in any military conflict, these rules are violated here more terrible than the other. here's what's going on now especially happens after butch and, uh, this information campaign. this is the legalization of dehumanization, sorry. terminology yes, that 's right. well, in general, uh, it will be in the order of things to

hate russians and uh, it is permissible from the point of view of humanitarian law to kill them. yes, on the other hand , arguments for people who want to do any atrocities against the russians. they can speak. i'll forget this for you. yes, for them, for them, this is such a thing, an ideal indulgence, and i am an ideal write-off of all sins. it's really an indulgence, moreover, for those people who were still trying to cast a vote there in defense of some sort of argument from the russian side. now, in principle, they should be silent, but they have nothing to object to, because right there that bucha will fly to them , look what they are doing with civilians. and no one will understand. what is territorial defense? who had a weapon, who did not have a weapon, and with who shot here with this question, no one will ask there is a picture and that's it. that's just over. most terrible thing that is happening now. i

just see on my social networks for those people with whom i still somehow kept in touch on the other side. not now. here is a complete rejection of any argumentation and a complete rejection of you, as a citizen of the russian federation everyone said vladimir viktorovich, the news came. this is as far as i know, uh, the press service of the lpr reports, right? correct me colleagues if i'm wrong, but the people's militia of the lpr that they blew up some kind of tank with acid in the frontier and there they can there may be some mass casualties, but it is clear that this is, as reported in hp, about some kind of provocation, in which, of course, they plan to accuse the ukrainian media, they already write that, uh, that a unit of the people's militia was involved in this, therefore actually bucha it was only the first stage. now it will go on rolls to break. we need, and then about which country is trying to extract its profit from all this history. and what are we going to talk about. at night, remove

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