when people came there, they hit a dot at and then suddenly i see kramatorsk and kiev's statement , which suddenly, where he always used civilians . listen to the people in mariupol, you probably didn’t hear when he held it either. there, all the time they were held hostage, kiev, he kept these people there, i don’t know, in the form of a shield, not counting, anyone . uh-huh these people tell themselves and then suddenly they decided to evacuate. what happened somewhere, somewhere, they died or a step died, they decided to withdraw the civilian population, and when the dot arrived here are a few minutes before the actual explosion. this is how the story looked like in the area of ​​the railway station in kramatorsk when point u arrived, the puzzle was formed and everything became clear. handwriting. who understand? you very much with such an anguish with such such confidence assert all this. uh, there is only one problem. that in the world, not only to the west, in the world no one believes

your versions and you can kill people not from scratch, because how many times we have heard we are not there, that is, it is not in an empty mind. that is, while the russian soldiers got lost on vacation, but in the reputation of the russian version has been so undermined that now when you have to deny or when you promote your version of the problem, no one believes you. after that, who says it? yes, it's amazing. yes impudence enchanting simply impudence. i understand why compaul? where is the test tube? yes, you went to iraq, but you didn’t find it normally. this is the only transmission accident. everything is funny. all this is ridiculous. it’s funny

to remind you all the time, how did you burn 500 people there, uh, a person burned 200 children, who were punished alone a man has been under house arrest for 3 years and everything you tell him about everything mikes resent all this. i don't want to have lunch. all sea. keep laughing, keep laughing. laugh. then raphael tell me, but this is their story. what hmm and russia no one believes anyway. yes, we are here anyway, here's a reputation, no, we now know how it all is, and why do they do it? what do you think, well, because the formal, as they say part, when in essence in essence? i don't know they are wrong . don't know what they did and michael i do i wonder of course they start formally. it 's all framed like this in this form. well, no one believes you. it reminds me of chatsky's fungus eating yes, yes, he's crazy. how do you know michael re-read you love the russian classics, everyone

knows it. everyone does not believe. michael first existence. i can tell you you say that there is one of the cases. you're talking seriously and it's not the case that dan turned on the fool. i just turned on a crust of real spanish to remind you to remind shchors' photo of a girl dying in her arms american soldier i'm telling you, i'm telling you for 120 years ago. you can go deeper if you want. i'm just reminding you, this is a story of lies. the whole history of america is a history of lies. you cheated. you made a montage with this girl. you started the war in spain, wait, cuba, philippines, russia listened to you , i just castrated, because everyone who told you, i concentrate, you understand that you are nothing, who we did not notice anything to you. the war against lies about everything in the gulf of tankin is wonderful, which is

wonderful. why does the world not believe russia? reply to a question for you to say 100 times the world is not limited to the district of columbia and will not even be limited to the borders of the united states, i will tell you, it will not be limited anymore, even the anglo-saxon world is good to trust you with england. i agree michael so live with this thought. north korea vere and north korea is deploying missiles that will make you feel bad. here with this thought and live on to continue it so happened that the remedy for 2 minutes is it possible or not? than now here distract tell me please, not your style michael you surprise me. it's completely dumb propaganda, therefore, will be silent for 2 minutes, the problem is that it is no longer even propaganda, and the problems are that it is already just a lie, when it is formed on one lie. vaganda is flowers, in

fact, by what is being said now and that now michael is just very good. so he says, they have occupied the means of delivering information, and therefore they really think that if they repeat halva 100 times, it will be sweet, it will not be sweet. michael never your world is collapsing now and here is your hysteria. by the way, indeed really. she is very, you know, not typical of you. she just reflects. here is your state. you see the world slipping out from under you. after all, before everyone looked at you what is good, jennil's face is also good usa what is good the usa is good for the whole world no, it will not happen again. and here is what we see with you now, unfortunately, the forecasts of both our specialists and yours. by the way, they justified themselves with only one amendment. you will fight. here, not only to the last drop of ukrainian blood. you will fight here to the last drops of slavic blood. then you will fight to the last drop of european blood, then you will fight to the first drop, they are not the german french war of the surface no, you don’t crush absolutely with your hands and how you bombed dresden

, how you bombed tokyo, how you bombed hiroshima nagasaki, you will definitely bomb everything rest. you shouldn't be talking about an episode right now. michael you better be glad to be on your list. this is also chechnya in your list. say, cancer, we're all good, yes hmm and how many people were killed in afghanistan michael a how many people killed in iraq libya and how many people you killed tell us about you the only one? well, you don't want to anymore, okay, yes, alexei balletchevich. well, nevertheless, and they are pushing this story, despite the fact that, as they say, yes, white. white black is black they are pushing this story and are starting to present

it, you know, at what angle at the angle of what is necessary, russia will definitely be punished for war crimes. here it seems to me, where is their main goal, what is it is? what do you think, what will it look like on the ground? first, the first t-shirt, two words i'll say michael is, let's cold, look at two versions of the first, let's say. they say that the shock was carrying russia, i just have what motive? well , what is the motive for russia to strike such a blow, preparations are being made, liberation, kramatorsk is being prepared for its liberation by troops. interaction between the donetsk people's republic and russia why should russia set against itself the entire population of kramatorsk ? to which the railway echelons go their stone, then it would be perhaps understandable. some kind of strategic highway or a strategic bridge

that is being cut, that is, there is no motive, but ukraine has three motives. remember the good film was yuliana semyonova's confrontation. how are the germans, yes, krotov's team, change into red army troops kill a village in east prussia so that everyone can see the atrocities of the bolsheviks right here, but it doesn't matter. now i'm not saying whether or not this episode in the film was in reality, it was right here the same to set up the population of kramatorsk against the suitable forces of the donetsk people's republic and russia once again the second motive is really to shout to the world that this is a new provocation from the side this is a new terrorist attack by russia the second and third motive. since ukraine probably already believes that the donbass is lost anyway. this is the revenge of the population, of course, i would take glory in fact, first. with the population in the same way as they

took revenge on the people who are the inhabitants of mariupol, they hate them, and they understand that these people are definitely not they are the same people who met the column of the ukrainian army in the fourteenth year with shouts of fascists for a second. and this video is the same in kramatorsk, the same in slavyansk, the same in the entire territory of the donetsk people's republic and the luhansk people's republic, these people are not recognized there, and therefore they sleep with them, it's like cars. which song? in the fourteenth year, requiem will perish for those who have fallen. i am in a foreign land, that is, for them it is a foreign land - this is understandable. yes, but now to your question. and after that look after all the first component of this performance. we saw already in the ninety-fifth year in chechnya , then remember what a cry went in the world about the village of samashki. all of a sudden, all of yeltsin's friends and the trump card, you ceased to be friends at once. yeltsin flew to the sevens themselves. lifaks and there he said to clinton at

the press conference here is the person who supports us no no no, - said clinton here the prime minister of canada is speaking. yen says you are making the same humanitarian disaster as in bosnia and herzegovina and apparently. yes it can culminate in an international investigation, that is, a novel of what aggression against us might look like. i think that they can organize aggression against us in such a way as to create a tribunal to investigate some crimes. yeah, one of the former officials of russia, ideally for them, of course, the ex-president of the pension. oh, the vacation will arrive somewhere to arrest and deliver him there. so, well, for some reason we think that aggression against russia will begin again on june 22. i do not rule out that it will begin precisely on this first humanitarian scenario and at the same time there will be pressure and a question. can such a country be entrusted with nuclear weapons? and a place in the security council after the interview

that peskov gave to sky news later, if you watch it to the end , there was a speech by the former british foreign minister, well-known to the characters, who is now in new york and is coordinating an international group to investigate military bailiffs. they have already begun to go. this, of course, is also a statement for a moment of the russian federation vladimir nikolayevich announced the need to create tribunal to condemn putin and lavrov must be judged. and why did he sign the agreement for ukraine, and then that he gave consent, as the minister of foreign affairs, to a coup d'état. now? remember our conversation with you a week ago, and i told you that they will try to create a similar tribunal similar to the one that worked weeks have passed in the former yugoslavia, and we are watching, please, and bucha itself and now kramatorsk and dergachi and there will be more gostomel

and many, many other interesting settlements points and there is already a statement, that is, we have already gone and on the informational component exactly in this very direction there is already a statement regarding the creation of this tribunal. an interesting story. and how will it all work? let's just in a minute, really in a minute, we will return to this studio and continue our conversation with our guests. see you. look, create about what is happening on the field now in the newspapers they will write only tomorrow the debriefing will be tomorrow there will be talk at the cooler about the match all tomorrow, but win. you can right now

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that's the whole story. it's just that they did this on purpose, uh, to coincide in time. everything. well, i don't think that the sketch, you know, the sketch against the backdrop of the negotiations, that was the goal, to do something just for their visit, which confuses me here. let's return for a moment to this point y, which means, uh, there really has not been a single example so far, despite the fact that this rocket is still in soviet union a long time ago. e was created. uh, hmm, there was not a single example when the u point was used by the russian troops of the sport . it was simply not from the word at all that this is the first case when there is an attempt to entrust russia with the use of a point, but uh, there was quite a lot of use from the ukrainian side. michael did not see the most intensive use in the course in the fourteenth or fifteenth year. uh, there is such a place saur grave hmm where there were fierce battles and

there over 20 missiles were used in a small area by this very nineteenth e, missile brigade. here is this separate one. it was they who fired there, since the body of the rocket was preserved. hmm , there are, uh, various genera, uh, markers and inventory numbers on this case. it would be logical, uh, to look at all this, all the missiles were taken into account and compared with those inventory numbers and other technical markers that uh are in storage with certain parts, if we looked at this, this is a lot of explanation. wait a second, by origin sergey borisovich, well, wait. well, wait, well, i understand, yes, i understand, no need to develop the theme, it is elemental. yes it’s clear, yes, they looked at the inventory number of the rocket there, at some numbers there , they found out that it was, let’s say, a rocket, really. actually it is in service. there, this

one has the nineteenth branch of the brigade. further, that sergey borisovich, you then take this information and give a t-shirt. yes, you don’t even need to go somewhere to the international instance. you are a shirt. show me this way , he will tell you in 5 minutes that he did not see anything, that this is a lie, that this is nonsense. this is all kanashenkov stuffed, there are all these letters superkami, and sergey borisovich helped him for what to do this? well, well, then, anyway, the only way to really conduct an investigation. it is marked and there are all the necessary grounds for this. now, on to other things. uh, tribunal and so on. here are various kinds of international judicial bodies. e, from hockey, specially created for a particular situation. in what case can they arise if officially the parties participating in the conflict recognize the geneva conventions, there on the twenty-ninth forty-ninth years were from the nevsky convention. oh the rules. e behavior during the war treatment of

prisoners of war and so on, if international humanitarian law and other acts are recognized. and if the people participating in the war, here i agree with vladimir nikolaevich. they openly declare publicly that we do not recognize any conventions. we do not recognize any humanitarian law and we will cut and shoot we will shoot, then, uh, there is no reason for this. for any objective tribunal, sergei, the key word is fruitless, of course, of course, the key word is objective, but it may not be objective either. well, the story with butch and listen to a huge number of huge nikes. all clear. you again did not see a huge amount, and in the video sequence, just a crazy amount. go see climb, and there is a chronology of all events. this is also all fixed, no matter how they clean it up, there is the internet, nevertheless. you have all these all this . everything is fixed. there is a statement from the people

who were there inside and make these statements not our people. i mean, even the mayor, let's say the same gucci that came out at the very moment when both. they said they liberated the city, that is, when our people simply left from there and began to talk about how doo-doo-doo such you know all these victorious statements. yes not a word, about anyone then there is no, mike you can one river. you should have heard, we are yours i want to say that unlike you. i'm not saying that one side dealt a missile strike too. i'm not saying that one side did, but massacre buchiy. i just i call to investigate before doing any. a hasty conclusion is dating. i'm wondering why you are calling on the russian classical yes, the west to have to wait for an investigation? i'm explaining to you.

i'm explaining to you. well, you don’t understand, i don’t call any west for any investigation. do you know why? because i do n’t trust this west for half a penny for half a penny, because the west is deceitful, and, as sergei borisovich said, he acts guided, in principle, by lawlessness. and if there are principles, lawlessness, then listen to the organization, although now friends. although, of course, when this kind of tragedy occurs, of course , in other times there, but really it was necessary to conduct this investigation, to really gather representatives of some high organizations, there are professionals and so on , they are not interested in conducting this independent investigation and then gives the result. mountain to the whole world, but we live at the very time when all the rules that existed in this world are set to zero, and they are set to zero by you in the first place, michael by you

you can't say it any other way on this uh gang, led by the united states. michael well, you've violated everything that can be violated, and you're talking about some kind of investigation. it's like this is very strange, yes please, maxim now a second. i will answer you in a different way than roman because i often agree with you. you know i'm protecting you. in general, i even accept your uplu, which you constantly said. why doesn't anyone believe you? i think i noticed that on some points, where they don't believe us. i just don't perform because i don't have inner convictions. well here in this case i want to say, that's why the specific case is just you as a representative, the west just ask a question here is the logic. so let's turn on the logic, imagine that we have some kind of process, but in the court. well, really. well , you fail partly said about it. well, that's why russia is right now in the russian well, the russian-speaking city of kramatorsk, which we are going to seize and liberate, how are you here

said to capture, how would you say, but why strike at civilians who are about to evacuate? you know how difficult the operation in mariupol is, precisely because there are many civilians there. and now the footage has been shown. how many civilians? well , it would seem. well, if we exclude that all the leadership of russia in the leadership and the armed forces have gone crazy. well, i think we rule it out, so why merge this process with evacuation, because civilians will leave, after that it will be easier to take kramatorsk slavyansk. why is it here in is this moment really the only time? the russian troops decided to use a point, which they do not have in their arsenal, to strike at civilians at the very moment when the european representatives arrived, well, just if you connect the logic, i think you, as an objective person, will say that there are a lot of guys before that i’m even asking you questions about boeing in bulk,

but here maikov something is wrong roman believes that, but such conversations are western and our partners, as putina says in quotation marks, i don’t know if it’s not relevant, maybe i still think it’s still relevant, because among western diplomats, even if there are adequate people for whom this conversation from the point of view of logic, it makes sense. well, even let's say, that's not for westerners. here's a novel. why do i think we need an investigation? yes, with elementary numbers, he should deal with, if the organization, if there is for them for westerners, for example. initially, she is to blame for all the oil, but for those who doubt for the chinese for the indians for the latin americans here to prove, so the case, the truth, michael here. i will not defend the version that i do not believe, but here, but there are so many inconsistencies between logical and factual ones. well,

something's not right here. michael, this is all an abstract philosophical brigade. description, there is nothing abstract about it. everything is completely real. unfortunately. this is a tragedy. there is a way to just support the torus project of this this rocket was tracked and they tell you it came from the south, the smell of the book in the brigade to look, the same michael as they monitor the territory of all arrivals, for example, in kharkov and there is a telegram channel that describes in great detail what is happening there and says, flew in from here, flew in from here, and they come to a conclusion. what's there? well, 90% of what flew arrives precisely from the ukrainians from to these, how they shoot roaming mortars and multiple launch rocket systems themselves there, who is at whom and people are perplexed, and they understand all this perfectly, they see everything, but no one is interested in it , because it is taken, and they clearly follow this same course, but nonetheless. here i am to you

i say they will prepare many more different provocations. yes, at the same time, here we have such an interesting video. let's see yeah hmm i don't know either. here's how to understand the correct there truthful, the video is untruthful there, yes, but nonetheless. let's listen and discuss. yes, this is an interesting conversation. the sbu is going to execute civilians for complicity with russia, then their bodies will be found by the supreme court, and again they will blame russia for the murders, all the details in the intercepted telephone conversation of ruslan bondarenko, an employee chernihiv sbu and its agent found villains. yes , well, if you read it to me, you will give it to me, man, 34, how much will it turn out there? but it's great there, it seems that all of ours should, then they will already arrive there. it is possible that

these people worked out the production with real murders was planned in the chernihiv region, similar actions were being prepared in the cities of the ropetop. rastyanets dergachi in the villages of borodyanka and katyuzhanka, shots of a russian drone are being fired at, the village of yagodnoye near chernigov and those same dergachi near kharkiv of the dead residents, then they will be filmed on fighters accusations against russia will be followed by all participants in the staged filming from among civilians paid a cash reward of 25 us dollars to use common facilities and such dolls curfew in the areas where they returned? the nazis have already announced i don't know, that is, i'm not an expert but there are these conversations that roam, yes there on social networks. i saw, for example, there, or rather, i heard there, and how two people cursed and it was written, and it was written, and in ukraine in the ukrainian telegram channel

and there actually scold these people. and that they are here in this way, as if framed ukraine there yes, and now hardly anyone will believe. this is after the events in bucha. when they talked, it seemed to be like and this boatswain. yes, in my opinion, there was a boatswain, yes, he had yes, and some more there, uh, a man and one to another, so he shouted that there was nothing to entrust you with a ram. it’s impossible, yes, but you will definitely fix it, there and so on and so on i don’t know, but hmm, it’s definitely absolutely absolutely perfect that in the current conditions, well, it’s impossible to carry out any independent investigation. sergei agree no, but you know, but intervened in this dispute, and about the investigation, you understand a paradox is a tragic paradox?